Cristas Baby?
1st in case anyone from TT reads this I'd just like to say I loved ep4 and the whole season.
Ok now to my point. All through the episode people ask Clem who knows about babies, they talk about it a lot. Now I thought ohh ok I'm going to find out what happened to Cristas baby. Nope unless Im wrong and missed that option Clem doesn't say ohh I was with a pregnant woman (this is what happened). Why not?
Did anyone else find this strange?
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I did. I was really expecting Clem to take lead on this situation (or at least a heavy influence) seeing as she would have a bit of knowledge. Seems weird she takes lead in situations she shouldn't know anything about, but when it comes to a situation she could know about she is not a part of it.
Ya I kind of did find that strange maybe Clem will mention christas baby in episode 5.
(Also long time no see viva la lee)
I also found it strange. Especially when Rebecca's water broke and You could have Clem ask "Is that supposed to happen?" I thought she would know what it means from Christa's pregnancy. Lol idk
Haha heya! How you been? And yeah, got myself pretty busy here lately!
More mystery to what happened to them during the 16 months. I really hope there's a logical explanation to this and not just a plot hole.
Christa's baby died...
Exactly. Most likely came out stillborn.
She did drink alcohol, and then on top of that there was no food, no proper care, and it had there were no hospitals.
Well the alcohol was a one time thing, but yea everything else is true.
Alcohol's not a guarantee to kill a pregnancy. My sister got alcohol poisoning early into her first pregnancy and she delivered a healthy boy about 7 months later although he did develop a mental disability. It was because of her trip to the hospital for the alcohol poisoning that she learned she was even pregnant.
Hospitals also aren't necessary for a healthy birth. Women were giving birth just fine on their own for centuries. What killed most women in birth was infection due to the person helping them not washing their hands between patients. Other ways mothers died such as internal bleeding due to tearing, exhaustion due to long labor, etc were minor compared to death by infection. Nowadays, things like pre-eclampsia, etc are more problematic, but that's more due to the mothers being overweight. Doctors being c-section happy aren't helping, either. Hospitals weren't a regular thing with births until after WWII. Related to that, proper care is not necessarily needed, either. Mom takes care of herself as best she can, chances are the kid will be fine.
Only issue I can see is lack of food. Women should gain 15-20 lbs during pregnancy (bit more with twins). If she doesn't, that can lead to low birth weight and other issues.
There's a possible chance Christa delivered her baby while Clem slept or went off by herself. She then either left the baby to die no longer caring about it with Omid gone, buried the baby because it was stillborn, or killed it. Given how Clem reacts to Rebecca's labor, she obviously didn't see Christa's. Not all laboring women scream their heads off (and yes, that's regardless if they have an epidural or not) so Christa could have delivered her baby near Clem as she slept. Most (natural) births also occur at night, particularly in the early morning hours before dawn.
In all honesty, there's no reason to mention the kid died. The kid's not here. You'd think it'd obvious the kid died. And given Clem's reaction to Rebecca, it's obvious Christa didn't give birth in front of Clem. Christa just saw her boyfriend and father of her child shot dead with the gun Clem had. I wouldn't want her around me if I were in her situation, either. Christa might have thought Clem would be bad luck. By the time you get past the time skip, it's pretty clear Christa resents Clem.
I personally feel when Clem and Gang thought Bec's baby was stillborn, Clem knew what was going on due to Christa's baby.
Tell me about it. ive been drumming my head trying to work this out, its a complete mystery.
I dont know where to start with it..
We start of with omid and crista some time after lee's death, omid and crista start getting a bit friski and go into the male toilets while they send clem into the female toilets alone, now after omid gets one to the chest and crista is on the floor holding him she notices clems gun on the floor and looks at clem as if to say {it was your gun} to imply she blamed clem, now ok right at that moment and maybe a few days after his death your gona be a bit sore that is was clems gun, but im sure soon enough you would also realise that if she and omid hadn't of got jiggy with it in the toilets it wouldnt have happened, but when we cut to the woods scene crista is still very sharp with clem, very sharp, like she resented clem still and fully blamed her for his death, so if we see crista with this level of resentment towards clem some months after omids death what was she like with her before? I think clem and crista had a hard time relationship wise, tbh I get the feeling crista was glad to be rid of clem, I definitely dont think if crista survived (I think she did) she is looking for clem...
So with what ever happed to that baby I would imagine it would have been a very rough time for clem, and all time low infact.
Now as soon as we meet Rebecca there is absolutely nothing ever said, no expressions to even suggest a connection if they (TT) didnt want to give the story line away at this point, its just like it never happened..
Same with kenny, when we meet kenny and talk, clem speaks of lee and omid and crista, that omid brought it and she got split up with crista, but kenny never asks about the baby, and he knew about her pregnancy in S1, he doesn't even ask after delivering Rebeccas baby, its all very strange to say the least..
Clem never really speaks of crista, its just like anything that happened before they got split up never happened, I keep trying to convince myself this isnt the biggest plot hole In history, but I just dont see how telling us what happened now would make sense because of the complete blackout from clem and kenny...
Very strange
There was no reason for Telttale not to have Clem mention Christa's baby at least once in an episode that's all about pregnancy, when Christa's whole character was pretty much mostly about her own pregnancy.
Major oversight
I think Christa had a miscarriage. It's not confirmed, but I think it's highly implied.
What if rebecca was crista all allong?
Hopefully Christa shows up in ep 5 and they explore what happened then. The only way for TT to bring up Christa's baby would be if Clem brought it up. But Clem must still feel so much shame about what she unintentionally did to Christa, that she perhaps didn't want to bring up Christa's pregnancy in ep 4, especially if it didn't end well.
And that's why I'm guessing we didn't hear about it. Just like how Clem seemed to purposely ignore Rebecca during the ep 2 baby-name convo that was painfully similar to Christa's and Omid's.
Was thinking perhaps they are planning to do a DLC between when Omid dies and Crista and Clem sitting at the camp fire.
So they don't want to mention it so that it doesn't ruin the dlc.
It probably wouldn't have been very helpful for Rebecca to hear that another woman's pregnancy failed miserably.
I'd say that Clem has repressed the memory as part of the cold, miserable time she had with Christa. She recalls certain survival skills, but the trauma of Christa's child's fate was probably too much for her to deal with. And in the end, it's probably best that we don't know what exactly happened to the baby because the imagination conjures up all kinds of horrors. What matters is that it did not work out, and that Christa and Clem don't want to remember it.
Aww, that's sad; I didn't consider memory repression. But it's likely.
I may also just be covering for the writer's mistakes!
Mabye Christa and the situation with her baby was just written out of the story? Perhaps we'll get a brief explanation of Christa's and her baby's fate (maybe a cameo) in ep5 to tie up the loose end, but i think there is a 70/30 chance she was just written out. TT has done similar things recently with Lawrence from TWAU and 400 days. She wasn't all that much of a popular character to begin with. And really, to have her just come in at the end and make some kind of miraculous impact on this season of games would be kinda lame, IMO.
Lol sure. But I still like your theory. I like feeling sad about fictional characters; I like the feels! It's the strangest thing haha.
I think it's been planned from the beginning to have Christa return at the end, just as the "Kenny vs. Luke" dynamic has been shoved down our throats since Episode 2. I think her reaction to Clementine's personality change will be this season's equivalent of Lee's conversation with the Stranger - a chance to let players reflect on all that Clem's done and learned, and affect how Christa would behave towards her.
Yeah, i could see that happening too. It wouldn't be the most creative way TT could do that, but it makes sense.
Kenny's entire presence in Season 2 wasn't the most creative choice by Telltale, either.
4hats the best explanation ive heard for this, I hope this is the case, even if it is, I think its been to big of a part missing from S2... good shout tho