Not wanting to be Clem has nothing to do with not liking Clem. Also those posts usually give you a very clear reason of why they don't want to play as Clem.
1: Realisticly, Clem will die, and most of them said that they don't even want her to die.
2: Playing with Clem will be repetitive and sh… moree has no more develepment to happen. They never said they hated Clem
3: People saying Clem was a bad character, i can't argue with that unless they meant that she changed too much.
Do you honestly think they can change her from a PC, of which our choices are reflected directly onto her and she says and does what we will, back to a NPC in which she is a completely separate entity? I just don't see how that would work. No Clem as PC means no more Clem, excluding (maybe) tiny cameos and such.
No hubs to get to know the characters. Rushed and lazy story changes like the 400 days characters for example. Choices really don't change any characters opinion of you. Except Kenny's outburst and that Kenny vs Luke at the end of episode 4 there are no other conflicts. Determinant characters are given lazy deaths. Nick is the best example by far. Hell someone dies this season just like the players with standards the characters themselves have little to no reaction. Hell that "This character will remember that" is probably a joke. No one remembers a thing it seems. Which is why I heavily suspect Season 3 will be even more rushed and lazily written than Season 2.
Those things are definitely as you say, now that I look back. But you specifically, you're not saying that these problems are caused by making Clem the protagonist? You said some people feel like her character is being taken advantage of, and this here is completely separate?
No hubs to get to know the characters. Rushed and lazy story changes like the 400 days characters for example. Choices really don't change a… moreny characters opinion of you. Except Kenny's outburst and that Kenny vs Luke at the end of episode 4 there are no other conflicts. Determinant characters are given lazy deaths. Nick is the best example by far. Hell someone dies this season just like the players with standards the characters themselves have little to no reaction. Hell that "This character will remember that" is probably a joke. No one remembers a thing it seems. Which is why I heavily suspect Season 3 will be even more rushed and lazily written than Season 2.
I agree, but I enjoyed playing as her this season. Season 3? Not so much.
Believe me, if you think this is bad, if clem isn't protagonist, get ready for more bitching and complaining
Playing as Kenny would be the only change that makes sense. They aren't grooming anyone to be PC so far. Clem worked in S2 because of the bond we already had with her.
Plus playing the part of an unstable man with psychotic episodes slipping further into madness after losing everything time and time again would make for an awesome plot.
Why do you think that? Why couldn't it be that Clem meets new a new group at the end of no going back and we get to play as one of them. Ano… morether scenario could be, that assuming Kenny survives, we get to play as Kenny instead. Another option would be that we get to play as Christa after she and Clem got seperated and the season is about finding Clementine. There are multiple possibilities for a new protagonist and keeping Clementine as part of the story. One does not exclude the other.
Whaaa? People hate Clemmy? Who? I don't know how you can hate Clem. The entire first season was dedicating to making us love and protect her. If you love season 1, I feel like you naturally must love Clementine's character. I don't know why people hate her, but I'd be willing to hear the reasons. I can understand wanting an adult protagonist or a different protagonist (not necessarily an adult), but I don't understand hating Clem.
Personally, I wouldn't mind Clem as a protagonist for S3 as long as she's either a teenager or an adult. I just don't want to have to be a kid again in Season 3.
Nope those changing in the writing are completely separate due to rushed lazy writing. Now to the protagonist problem. Honestly if this was any other kid people wouldn't care nearly as much as they do for Clementine. People want to know the next part of her story. The problem is we're not given a detailed game like season 1. Instead we're given a rushed game which is season 2. In short people curiosity about the next part of Clem's story gets people buying the new season. Only to disappointed by fast paced lazily written episodes. Sadly a lot of people get too emotionally invested in Clementine and can't think outside the box to realize the many weaknesses of this season. Basic human psychology really. Get too attached to something and you overlook many of its flaws.
Those things are definitely as you say, now that I look back. But you specifically, you're not saying that these problems are caused by maki… moreng Clem the protagonist? You said some people feel like her character is being taken advantage of, and this here is completely separate?
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Not wanting to be Clem has nothing to do with not liking Clem. Also those posts usually give you a very clear reason of why they don't want to play as Clem.
1: Realisticly, Clem will die, and most of them said that they don't even want her to die.
2: Playing with Clem will be repetitive and she has no more develepment to happen. They never said they hated Clem
3: People saying Clem was a bad character, i can't argue with that unless they meant that she changed too much.
My point? Stop being so dramatic.
Do you honestly think they can change her from a PC, of which our choices are reflected directly onto her and she says and does what we will, back to a NPC in which she is a completely separate entity? I just don't see how that would work. No Clem as PC means no more Clem, excluding (maybe) tiny cameos and such.
No hubs to get to know the characters. Rushed and lazy story changes like the 400 days characters for example. Choices really don't change any characters opinion of you. Except Kenny's outburst and that Kenny vs Luke at the end of episode 4 there are no other conflicts. Determinant characters are given lazy deaths. Nick is the best example by far. Hell someone dies this season just like the players with standards the characters themselves have little to no reaction. Hell that "This character will remember that" is probably a joke. No one remembers a thing it seems. Which is why I heavily suspect Season 3 will be even more rushed and lazily written than Season 2.
I agree, but I enjoyed playing as her this season. Season 3? Not so much.
Believe me, if you think this is bad, if clem isn't protagonist, get ready for more bitching and complaining
Those things are definitely as you say, now that I look back. But you specifically, you're not saying that these problems are caused by making Clem the protagonist? You said some people feel like her character is being taken advantage of, and this here is completely separate?
So true.
I enjoyed playing her as Clem too, but sooner or later we need new people. Maybe Clem's story ends next episode.
I'm sorry but some does not mean many.
Playing as Kenny would be the only change that makes sense. They aren't grooming anyone to be PC so far. Clem worked in S2 because of the bond we already had with her.
Plus playing the part of an unstable man with psychotic episodes slipping further into madness after losing everything time and time again would make for an awesome plot.
Whaaa? People hate Clemmy? Who? I don't know how you can hate Clem. The entire first season was dedicating to making us love and protect her. If you love season 1, I feel like you naturally must love Clementine's character. I don't know why people hate her, but I'd be willing to hear the reasons. I can understand wanting an adult protagonist or a different protagonist (not necessarily an adult), but I don't understand hating Clem.
Personally, I wouldn't mind Clem as a protagonist for S3 as long as she's either a teenager or an adult. I just don't want to have to be a kid again in Season 3.
Nope those changing in the writing are completely separate due to rushed lazy writing. Now to the protagonist problem. Honestly if this was any other kid people wouldn't care nearly as much as they do for Clementine. People want to know the next part of her story. The problem is we're not given a detailed game like season 1. Instead we're given a rushed game which is season 2. In short people curiosity about the next part of Clem's story gets people buying the new season. Only to disappointed by fast paced lazily written episodes. Sadly a lot of people get too emotionally invested in Clementine and can't think outside the box to realize the many weaknesses of this season. Basic human psychology really. Get too attached to something and you overlook many of its flaws.