If you disagreed with him like twice he would fucking hate you and would easily let you find Clem on your own even if you showed the bite
In my playthough I considered Kenny as a friend (judging by his dialogues he felt the same for Lee) But I tried to find a middle ground between Lilly and Kenny. Sometimes I had to disagree with tjough, about Larry for instance, there were couple other times (can't remember now) where Lily made more sense about the situation at hand. Anyway: He said I wasn't always there for him, but I always supported him when it came to his family. Said he will come with me, because Clem is family. Just wanted to say, he cared more about his family than himself, so if you were there for Katja and Duck, he would still go with you to the end.
I disagree. Kenny's relationship with Lee was for the most part determinant. If you disagreed with him like twice he would fucking hate you … moreand would easily let you find Clem on your own even if you showed the bite. I find Kenny and Lily's storyline generally similar, both lost basically everything they cared about. We saw lily completely fucking break down right in front of us so saying we did not have anything interesting to watch is crazy, because it basically set the tone for the rest of the season. I would have thought Kenny's S2 storyline would be boring as well, but it's not.
If you disagreed with him like twice he would fucking hate you and would easily let you find Clem on your own even if you showed the bite
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In my playthough I considered Kenny as a friend (judging by his dialogues he felt the same for Lee) But I tried to find a middle ground between Lilly and Kenny. Sometimes I had to disagree with tjough, about Larry for instance, there were couple other times (can't remember now) where Lily made more sense about the situation at hand. Anyway: He said I wasn't always there for him, but I always supported him when it came to his family. Said he will come with me, because Clem is family. Just wanted to say, he cared more about his family than himself, so if you were there for Katja and Duck, he would still go with you to the end.
Crows are maybe the only thing I can agree with. They often symbolize death in other mediums so not surprising Telltale would sneak them into The Walking Dead.
1.) In regards to the RV, there isn't only one RV of that make and model in existence. If it was the same one, Clem likely would have commented on it. Telltale wanted an RV model for that spot so they pulled out the one from season one rather than making a new one. It was a time saver.
2.) Lilly stole the RV and pulled a U-turn to drive the other way if I remember right. If she kept going straight, she would have hit the train. So she effectively drove back the same 30 miles they just drove. If the RV was on it's last legs, it wasn't going to get far and not likely she'd happen upon the right car to steal parts from to fix the RV and keep going.
3.) Kenny's death was more obvious originally and changed to be more vague. Obviously Kenny was planned to return in season 2 as a result of that change. In either scenario, he has a chance to get out. He's in an alley way with Ben if he ends up impaled in the alley so he can very possibly jump into a window or perhaps even figured out how to catapult himself onto the fence and climb back onto the balance Ben fell off of. In the other, he fell into a hallway. There's obviously rooms in that case. He could have ran into one, closed the door, and went out a window there. Adrenaline can do some crazy shit and make you like a super human. People have been recorded to lift things like cars off people when adrenaline kicks in.
4.) Somehow I doubt every single human left alive in the US is heading to the same location. There has to be other locations that are similar. There are also bound to be those that are group shy. You said it yourself that Lilly didn't like large groups. So why go to Wellington at all where there's bound to be a large group? Chances are Lilly would go to a military base since she was military and it would likely be easier to defend with all the bunkers, ammo, walls/fences, etc. That just brings her back to her original comic connection (military base instead of a prison).
5.) People keep getting their hopes up for characters to return (or live) and keep getting their hopes dashed. It's easier to assume no one will return (Christa included) and everyone will die so when someone does return or someone actually lives, you're happy.
Everybody loves her because she is a female Luke and the one that opposes Kenny's shit, so I'm a fan of anyone who argues with Kenny and teaches him where he fuckin' belongs.
Lilly wasn't a very important part of the game, I have no idea why everyone loves her? I said she has nothing interesting to give to the story, so it's not crazy.
Yes I agree with that, I was simply pointing out that it was in plain view, right in front of the player and the camera stayed there for at least an extra second. So we will wait and see I guess.
Honestly, why the hell would that even matter to TT? Besides that, Lily could easily just drive north from there? Haha, maybe this part about the RV is correct, but as I said, we will wait and see.
Lily's death was not a death. If Kenny's death was obvious then Lily's is fucking transparent because we know that Lily is crafty, so the chances of her dying after jacking the RV is very low in my mind. And like I said in my original post, a determinants fate never changes so Lily would survive either way. An offscreen death with no body/walker means nothing.
Matthew said that he saw multiple groups a day head north. This means many people have heard and believe in Wellington, which must also mean many, many success stories of survivors. By the logic of the small groups, why would Christa want to go to Wellington? Because it is a fucking city, not a group of people. People go to Wellington so the walkers get slowed down, not so they can be protected by others. It is also known that most military bases are completely obliterated. Just watch the TV show for evidence, and Mark himself abandoned the Air Force base for Lily's tiny group in a tiny motel in a tiny city with huge hordes of walkers. Not a very good ratio of land-zombies. Mark was obviously desperate, so I doubt that he would leave a comfortable Air Force base for a motel if it wasn't absolutely necessary.
No fucking way man, if TT leaves this question unanswered and leaves the huge opportunity with Lily I will be fucking pissed
Crows are maybe the only thing I can agree with. They often symbolize death in other mediums so not surprising Telltale would sneak them in… moreto The Walking Dead.
1.) In regards to the RV, there isn't only one RV of that make and model in existence. If it was the same one, Clem likely would have commented on it. Telltale wanted an RV model for that spot so they pulled out the one from season one rather than making a new one. It was a time saver.
2.) Lilly stole the RV and pulled a U-turn to drive the other way if I remember right. If she kept going straight, she would have hit the train. So she effectively drove back the same 30 miles they just drove. If the RV was on it's last legs, it wasn't going to get far and not likely she'd happen upon the right car to steal parts from to fix the RV and keep going.
3.) Kenny's death was more obvious originally and changed to be more vague. Obviously Kenny was planned to return in season 2… [view original content]
I believe Christa is alive. As for Lily? I dunno. Even though I did not like her in season 1, her reappearance would make for an interesting third season.
I don't think we will see them return. Its too much of a repeat story line. We got separated from Christa at the end of season 1, then we find Kenny again after thinking he was dead. Do you really think they'll pull the same trick again in the same season? One character was forgotten long back in season 1, the odd mention of her going crazy, the other made it to the first episode of season 2, with the odd mention of her. Clem probably only asks about her because she still has hope. She had been with her for the longest. The story line would not improve or go anywhere by introducing them again. Its wasted time to me, if they want to do it, they should have done it previously.
Its the same reason I doubt we will be playing as a new character in season 3. Too much of a repetitive story line. And that makes for a boring story line. "oh hey, LOOK, its Christa and Lilly" such a surprise to see this move done again. "oh no, we died at the end, looks like we are playing a new character..... again" the only reason we play as Clem because it makes sense after we taught her survival skills. Now She's learning new survival skills and advice from Jane. I doubt we will playing as anyone else.
You make a good point, but I feel reuniting with Christa and Lily would somehow be less of a shock and less repetitive. I really don't know, I'm picturing it in my head and it could work.
I don't think we will see them return. Its too much of a repeat story line. We got separated from Christa at the end of season 1, then we fi… morend Kenny again after thinking he was dead. Do you really think they'll pull the same trick again in the same season? One character was forgotten long back in season 1, the odd mention of her going crazy, the other made it to the first episode of season 2, with the odd mention of her. Clem probably only asks about her because she still has hope. She had been with her for the longest. The story line would not improve or go anywhere by introducing them again. Its wasted time to me, if they want to do it, they should have done it previously.
Its the same reason I doubt we will be playing as a new character in season 3. Too much of a repetitive story line. And that makes for a boring story line. "oh hey, LOOK, its Christa and Lilly" such a surprise to see this move done again. "oh no, we died at the end, lo… [view original content]
Tbh, I agree to a point. It's not really fitting with her character to be brutally murdered by it wasn't Larry's either, and realistically, everyone dies so it has to happen at some point
I think Lilly could return and that she will not die. How would they do it? She isn't one of those characters who fits with being murdered, nor devoured or bitten.
The Crow thing is extremely interesting, but to be honest Telltale could just be using them to foreshadow that the deaths WILL happen instead of them avoiding it, but I haven't heard the full story. And the Crow that appeared when you discovered Sam means that Sam will die. This could still work for Christa unless there was a crow that we missed during that scene
What could she give to the story?
Someone with regret over something awful that she did? Someone who is headstrong and has a strong will … moreto survive?
Someone who is willing to be the bad guy and make the tough choices, but doesn't constantly boss everyone around like Kenny does?
If she's learned from her mistakes, she could be a great character to get back.
I think Christa survived but was injured in the leg regardless of what Clem did. She might in fact be the "injured sister" that Arvo was trying to drop medicine off for.
I think Christa survived but was injured in the leg regardless of what Clem did. She might in fact be the "injured sister" that Arvo was trying to drop medicine off for.
I don't know. I'm struggling to see it work. I don't think there is enough time left in this season if it was to happen. I am hoping some 400 days characters have more screen time. Its slightly disappointing how little they've done with them. I was expecting them to be a massive part in the story. But, anything can happen I suppose, Clem found Kenny and that was a long shot.
You make a good point, but I feel reuniting with Christa and Lily would somehow be less of a shock and less repetitive. I really don't know, I'm picturing it in my head and it could work.
I believe we'll have a huge surprise in Episode 5. Not mentioning Lilly will re-appear, but maybe someone else's reappearance, such as Christa's or Jane's? Maybe actually something regarding Lee will come back, like a memory of his death? Damn, it just must happen! After the tragic shootout, I believe a lot of people died, in exception of Clem and perhaps the baby? I don't know, but she'll probably remember of how it all started, and that's where Lee goes in.
off-topic: Unfortunately something tells me Kenny will die at the shootout. He's been cool and taught Clem a lot of things, but guys like him and Lee always end up dying.
Hey? This is a discussion thread, haven't you noticed it already? I also want her back, but it still doesn't mean "anything", we're just here to discuss about what could possibly happen in Episode 5, so your post is just nonsense.
I think Christa survived but was injured in the leg regardless of what Clem did. She might in fact be the "injured sister" that Arvo was trying to drop medicine off for.
My post is perfectly valid to the discussion. Recognizing and utilizing perspective is very important to debate. If you are of an indifferent mindset to them returning the points made mean absolutely nothing. Any discussion based on this will only ever lead to your perspective and not any evidence that will convince someone on the opposing side.
My opinion on Christa is that I believe she is alive and we will see her in episode five. My basis for this is her losing a baby, us having a motherless baby, and that this is the kind of annoyingly predictable thing they would pull on us.
My opinion on Lilly is that she was loosely based on Lilly from the comics. She's off doing those things never to be seen by us again.
Hey? This is a discussion thread, haven't you noticed it already? I also want her back, but it still doesn't mean "anything", we're just here to discuss about what could possibly happen in Episode 5, so your post is just nonsense.
I think Christa survived but was injured in the leg regardless of what Clem did. She might in fact be the "injured sister" that Arvo was trying to drop medicine off for.
He would actually only come with you in that situation, if you picked the dialogue option "Clem is my family" so no, he isn't actually there for you if you were there for his family. Just in a very specific option
If you disagreed with him like twice he would fucking hate you and would easily let you find Clem on your own even if you showed the bite
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In my playthough I considered Kenny as a friend (judging by his dialogues he felt the same for Lee) But I tried to find a middle ground between Lilly and Kenny. Sometimes I had to disagree with tjough, about Larry for instance, there were couple other times (can't remember now) where Lily made more sense about the situation at hand. Anyway: He said I wasn't always there for him, but I always supported him when it came to his family. Said he will come with me, because Clem is family. Just wanted to say, he cared more about his family than himself, so if you were there for Katja and Duck, he would still go with you to the end.
And I used to wonder why minorities were afraid to post their opinions?
If only more posts were like this one, instead of people raging over you not agreeing with you ahem jp and Op cough
I hope Lilly and Christa are alive, hopefully TT will make something happen with the 'X will remember that', even though some characters who will remember what happened end up dying.
I replayed TWD1 last week, tried to stay neutral, helped his family (the only time I didn't do something for him was when I tried to save Shawn... like, dafuq, why wouldn't I try to help the guy that is about to die, rather than the kid that can just walk away by himself) and, in the 4th episode, I let Ben die.
I asked for his help, mentioned Clementine, and he said ¨you were always there for my family¨. I though ¨Cool, he joined me!¨
Minutes after that I decided to replay the last parts of that chapter, because I wanted Kenny to save Ben in Ep 5 (way more epic than the Christa scene), so I had to keep Ben alive. As I didn't let Ben die, Kenny didn't join me, even if I mentioned Clementine. Apparently saving Ben makes him think I was an asshole to his family for some reason. Fck the guy.
If you disagreed with him like twice he would fucking hate you and would easily let you find Clem on your own even if you showed the bite
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In my playthough I considered Kenny as a friend (judging by his dialogues he felt the same for Lee) But I tried to find a middle ground between Lilly and Kenny. Sometimes I had to disagree with tjough, about Larry for instance, there were couple other times (can't remember now) where Lily made more sense about the situation at hand. Anyway: He said I wasn't always there for him, but I always supported him when it came to his family. Said he will come with me, because Clem is family. Just wanted to say, he cared more about his family than himself, so if you were there for Katja and Duck, he would still go with you to the end.
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In my playthough I considered Kenny as a friend (judging by his dialogues he felt the same for Lee) But I tried to find a middle ground between Lilly and Kenny. Sometimes I had to disagree with tjough, about Larry for instance, there were couple other times (can't remember now) where Lily made more sense about the situation at hand. Anyway: He said I wasn't always there for him, but I always supported him when it came to his family. Said he will come with me, because Clem is family. Just wanted to say, he cared more about his family than himself, so if you were there for Katja and Duck, he would still go with you to the end.
I'm actually a huge Kenny fan. When he's not being a dick he's easily the nicest character
Thanks man! And yeah seriously, that's a huge unanswered question. I would love having back someone who isn't fucking incompetent
Crows are maybe the only thing I can agree with. They often symbolize death in other mediums so not surprising Telltale would sneak them into The Walking Dead.
1.) In regards to the RV, there isn't only one RV of that make and model in existence. If it was the same one, Clem likely would have commented on it. Telltale wanted an RV model for that spot so they pulled out the one from season one rather than making a new one. It was a time saver.
2.) Lilly stole the RV and pulled a U-turn to drive the other way if I remember right. If she kept going straight, she would have hit the train. So she effectively drove back the same 30 miles they just drove. If the RV was on it's last legs, it wasn't going to get far and not likely she'd happen upon the right car to steal parts from to fix the RV and keep going.
3.) Kenny's death was more obvious originally and changed to be more vague. Obviously Kenny was planned to return in season 2 as a result of that change. In either scenario, he has a chance to get out. He's in an alley way with Ben if he ends up impaled in the alley so he can very possibly jump into a window or perhaps even figured out how to catapult himself onto the fence and climb back onto the balance Ben fell off of. In the other, he fell into a hallway. There's obviously rooms in that case. He could have ran into one, closed the door, and went out a window there. Adrenaline can do some crazy shit and make you like a super human. People have been recorded to lift things like cars off people when adrenaline kicks in.
4.) Somehow I doubt every single human left alive in the US is heading to the same location. There has to be other locations that are similar. There are also bound to be those that are group shy. You said it yourself that Lilly didn't like large groups. So why go to Wellington at all where there's bound to be a large group? Chances are Lilly would go to a military base since she was military and it would likely be easier to defend with all the bunkers, ammo, walls/fences, etc. That just brings her back to her original comic connection (military base instead of a prison).
5.) People keep getting their hopes up for characters to return (or live) and keep getting their hopes dashed. It's easier to assume no one will return (Christa included) and everyone will die so when someone does return or someone actually lives, you're happy.
I guess Christa and Lilly would eventually find out about their connection.
just saying, Christa must be also looking for Clem and mentions it.
Everybody loves her because she is a female Luke and the one that opposes Kenny's shit, so I'm a fan of anyone who argues with Kenny and teaches him where he fuckin' belongs.
Left like Vernon? Are you actually retarded or just pretend you are?
I believe Christa is alive. As for Lily? I dunno. Even though I did not like her in season 1, her reappearance would make for an interesting third season.
I don't think we will see them return. Its too much of a repeat story line. We got separated from Christa at the end of season 1, then we find Kenny again after thinking he was dead. Do you really think they'll pull the same trick again in the same season? One character was forgotten long back in season 1, the odd mention of her going crazy, the other made it to the first episode of season 2, with the odd mention of her. Clem probably only asks about her because she still has hope. She had been with her for the longest. The story line would not improve or go anywhere by introducing them again. Its wasted time to me, if they want to do it, they should have done it previously.
Its the same reason I doubt we will be playing as a new character in season 3. Too much of a repetitive story line. And that makes for a boring story line. "oh hey, LOOK, its Christa and Lilly" such a surprise to see this move done again. "oh no, we died at the end, looks like we are playing a new character..... again" the only reason we play as Clem because it makes sense after we taught her survival skills. Now She's learning new survival skills and advice from Jane. I doubt we will playing as anyone else.
You make a good point, but I feel reuniting with Christa and Lily would somehow be less of a shock and less repetitive. I really don't know, I'm picturing it in my head and it could work.
Tbh, I agree to a point. It's not really fitting with her character to be brutally murdered by it wasn't Larry's either, and realistically, everyone dies so it has to happen at some point
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The Crow thing is extremely interesting, but to be honest Telltale could just be using them to foreshadow that the deaths WILL happen instead of them avoiding it, but I haven't heard the full story. And the Crow that appeared when you discovered Sam means that Sam will die. This could still work for Christa unless there was a crow that we missed during that scene
What could she give to the story?
Someone with regret over something awful that she did? Someone who is headstrong and has a strong will to survive?
Someone who is willing to be the bad guy and make the tough choices, but doesn't constantly boss everyone around like Kenny does?
If she's learned from her mistakes, she could be a great character to get back.
And I used to wonder why minorities were afraid to post their opinions?
If only more posts were like this one, instead of people raging over you not agreeing with you ahem jp and Op cough
Lilly took the RV and left everyone else to die.
Vernon took the boat and left everyone else to die.
Except the group got the train running sooo...
I think Christa survived but was injured in the leg regardless of what Clem did. She might in fact be the "injured sister" that Arvo was trying to drop medicine off for.
OH MY GOD I DIDNT THINK OF THAT
I don't know. I'm struggling to see it work. I don't think there is enough time left in this season if it was to happen. I am hoping some 400 days characters have more screen time. Its slightly disappointing how little they've done with them. I was expecting them to be a massive part in the story. But, anything can happen I suppose, Clem found Kenny and that was a long shot.
I believe we'll have a huge surprise in Episode 5. Not mentioning Lilly will re-appear, but maybe someone else's reappearance, such as Christa's or Jane's? Maybe actually something regarding Lee will come back, like a memory of his death? Damn, it just must happen! After the tragic shootout, I believe a lot of people died, in exception of Clem and perhaps the baby? I don't know, but she'll probably remember of how it all started, and that's where Lee goes in.
off-topic: Unfortunately something tells me Kenny will die at the shootout. He's been cool and taught Clem a lot of things, but guys like him and Lee always end up dying.
Hey? This is a discussion thread, haven't you noticed it already? I also want her back, but it still doesn't mean "anything", we're just here to discuss about what could possibly happen in Episode 5, so your post is just nonsense.
We never got to see her body after that
Wow, interesting theory
My post is perfectly valid to the discussion. Recognizing and utilizing perspective is very important to debate. If you are of an indifferent mindset to them returning the points made mean absolutely nothing. Any discussion based on this will only ever lead to your perspective and not any evidence that will convince someone on the opposing side.
My opinion on Christa is that I believe she is alive and we will see her in episode five. My basis for this is her losing a baby, us having a motherless baby, and that this is the kind of annoyingly predictable thing they would pull on us.
My opinion on Lilly is that she was loosely based on Lilly from the comics. She's off doing those things never to be seen by us again.
Christa has been dead since episode 1, this is telltale we are dealing with, they have destroyed any hope i have for finding that boat.
Arvo says his sister is sick, not injured.
He might have been lying in order to get sympathy. Just throwing it out there.
I thought the girl that steps out of the woods beside him might be his sister. The dark circles under her eyes made her look kinda sick.
1: Sick and injured are basically synonyms so right now you're just splitting hairs.
2: You can get sick from an infection.
Except the group tied her up and would probably enslave or kill her in the near future, soooo...
He would actually only come with you in that situation, if you picked the dialogue option "Clem is my family" so no, he isn't actually there for you if you were there for his family. Just in a very specific option
FINALLY, this guy was stalking me everywhere
Also, the noise the train made would've drawn Walkers away from Lilly's area.
She's still alive because she's an important character and the writers wouldn't kill her offscreen.
I hope Lilly and Christa are alive, hopefully TT will make something happen with the 'X will remember that', even though some characters who will remember what happened end up dying.
I don't entirely agree with this.
I replayed TWD1 last week, tried to stay neutral, helped his family (the only time I didn't do something for him was when I tried to save Shawn... like, dafuq, why wouldn't I try to help the guy that is about to die, rather than the kid that can just walk away by himself) and, in the 4th episode, I let Ben die.
I asked for his help, mentioned Clementine, and he said ¨you were always there for my family¨. I though ¨Cool, he joined me!¨
Minutes after that I decided to replay the last parts of that chapter, because I wanted Kenny to save Ben in Ep 5 (way more epic than the Christa scene), so I had to keep Ben alive. As I didn't let Ben die, Kenny didn't join me, even if I mentioned Clementine. Apparently saving Ben makes him think I was an asshole to his family for some reason. Fck the guy.
On the other hand, when you're not sucking his D and being his personal bish, he's an asshole.
Forgive me for not completely ignoring the sick looking woman that literally stands beside Arvo to follow pure conjecture.