'No peace. No rest' Ken?
When Kenny said words to this effect in episode 4, was anyone else like...wtf?
A gap of sixteen months between any major deaths is better than most people get!
I understand that he's lost a lot, but by now basically everyone has lost 3 people they care about a lot, and Kenny got a gap of 16 months where that didn't really happen, which is pretty damn incredible and lucky.
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From someone who's studied Psychology, losing a child is a very traumatic experience and every parents' worst nightmare.
Kenny is most likely suffering from post traumatic stress
I think by that he means why is it always him that loses his loved ones. I might he totally off though
So what? I personally think he just appeared normal when interacting with the others, but he still suffers from the death of his son and wife, which makes him pretty unstable. The fact that sixteen months had passed doesn't mean anything.
EDIT: By the way, Flog, the actual part of his whole speech is this: "Duck. Katjaa. Sarita. No peace. No rest. The punches just keep coming."
It's up to you how you want to interpret his statement. I really can't say how losing someone you love affects you(thankfully I never had to deal with this,yet), but I would assume you don't completely recover from it, especially in Kenny's case. I guess when Sarita was alive she gave him some stability and somehow made him forget about them, or not always thinking about them that way. But once he lost her, all the feelings of sadness he suppressed came back to him.
That's how I see it, at least.
I think of Kenny like a house. Katjaa, Duck, Lee, and Sarita were his main support. Once those failed, he's on the verge of collapse. Rebecca's baby are the back-up support. If that fails, then Kenny collapses.
You know, when you lose someone you love, you don't just magically forget everything in 16 months.
A dying family member (Especially your parents or your son.) can be an extremely traumatic experience.
He also never implied he's lost them in quick succession, he just said ''I keep losing my family, i can't get a break.'' But if you wanna go there, 1 year is not really a long time, losing 3 family members in 1 - 2 years is still horrible.
Thanks
EDIT: See, THIS shit is what I mean. I say thanks to someone for giving me the correct quote, and I get THREE downvotes.
So you think he's traumatised such that he doesn't even realise how much time has passed?
That..could well be right actually.
He's lost three, most people in the apocalypse have lost that many by now
Now I have the real line, it doesn't sound like he really means that. 'No peace, no rest' - having lived for 16 months without losing anyone really close to him in the apocalypse, that's pretty good going.
He said, quote, 'No rest. No peace.'
By this time, nearly everyone has lost three people close to them.
Kenny had a gap of 16 months between them, which is really lucky.
Hell, Nick loses his Mother, Uncle and two of his friends within a couple of weeks!
Kenny acts okay as long as he has a family member to protect. I think he has some sort of codependency, he needs someone to care about to pull himself together. That's why he was acting fine after seeing him because he's got Sarita with him. He's clearly not over Duck and Katjaa and most likely never will be. Once he lost Sarita it made him become unstable again and he remembers everybody he's ever lost and he becomes really reckless. Then Rebecca's baby comes along and that is someone new for him to protect and keep safe and it gives him purpose.
I think if he loses the baby it's the end for him.
Clementine can take care of himself so while Kenny may care for her, she can never be what he feels he needs because he needs to protect people and she can protect herself.
That's just my interpretation of him.
Losing a child will still have the same sting 5 years later.
Maybe he means his mind is never at peace which I can believe.
No. He's saying that it doesn't matter how much time has passed because losing a child is the most soul crushing thing that could happen to a parent. If my boy died I would still be reeling from it even after 16 months.
Thank you! Take an upvote brotha!
A break won't help a guy in a situation like that, every person he loses is more than a "punch", putting it lightly.
Actually, he dealt with it quite good, he didn't cry so much when both Duck and Katjaa died, when Sarita died it reminded him of his dead family, he didn't do anything too stupid after Sarita died, he just ranted.
I was just surprised he didn't mention his boat.
But he literally says that he had 'No peace. No rest.'
Which just isn't true.
Why would he say it to us if he didn't think it would help? To try to trick us into feeling sorry for him? He's not manipulative.
When recalling what happened after he got separated from Lee, he trails off. We don't know how long it took before he found Sarita, but it could have been many months. We don't know how long they've known each other.
And that's just how he handles his grief - not as well as others.
Really?? Time doesn't heal everything.. loosing his wife and child was clearly enough to lead to a broken soul and mind, which cannot be cured by only time. Sarita was there for him for a while, but he never forget about his family. "We all take a beating every day, you know, one way or another." BUT people are NOT the same, some of them can't deal with traumas so easily.
He's just upset, people say dumb shit when they're upset, just like how he got pissed off at Clem moments after Sarita died.
I guess he was just exaggerating.
I guess his view of the situation was warped.
It's not warped. He just needed to blow some steam and vent. Are people supposed to just go "oh all well it's the zombie apocalypse so I guess I should expect it and not be sad. Lets just move on no big deal~" Yes, other people have lost folks too but that doesn't mean you can't feel bad about your own losses and just take a moment to just feel and either get sad or angry over it. They're people not machines. Everyone is going to still have a reaction no matter how common it happens be it shock, anger, numbness, sadness, or whatever. No amount of time between anything is every going to make loss feel any less painful or affecting. Besides you have no idea what happens in those months and what other friends may have died that he just didn't mention.
Time doesn't heal all wounds.
Kenny feels that he is at fault for the deaths of everyone he had mention. Guilt is something that can last forever.
You obviously don't understand what Kenny is saying.
He has lost three loved ones and is living in the apocalypse. This is enough stress to make anyone crack.
Ok fair enough:
I think by saying: 'Duck. Katjaa. Sarita. No peace. No rest.' he was saying that in between the deaths of these people, he has had no peace or rest.
What precisely have I misunderstood?
Even Ben who people hate (not me but a lot of people) lost his entire family and saw his best friend eaten. Clem lost three families. Thats what an apocalypse is, death and loss.
I meant warped in terms of how much time has passed and how his situation isn't worse than others'. He doesn't seem to understand that having not lost someone close to him for sixteen months is actually very lucky in the apocalypse.
You may have missed all the zombies and bandits that now roam the world.
No Peace, No Rest = His family keeps dying, he seems to never have a time where they just stay alive and all is well. When he said this, he didn't think at all about a 16 month time span like you're making a big ass deal about.
Dude...we get it. You're a Lily fan.
Well we don't know what happened in those 16 months. He could've made really good friends with someone only to have them die. You can't say with certainty that he hasn't lost anyone for 16 months without knowing what went on in those 16 months
The time frame doesn't matter. His loved ones are still dead. What's worse anyways? More time to actually get to know people and become closer to them to make their death all the more worse? What's the big deal that he says that anyways? He never once says other people aren't suffering and that he's the only one. He's just frustrated and has every right to be. Or do you expect him to say "oh wow Sarita died good thing I had a whole 16 months with her and no one else dying~ I sure am lucky!" People don't work like that. When loss happens, everyone has the right to feel pain and not have people belittle what they are feeling just because they don't "have it as bad as that person". Loss and feelings isn't about competition.
well it's a za and his wife killed herself and he saw his son get put down. give him a break
also your title is a huge spoiler for people who have not played episode 4 yet (android users)
Does it matter? It's not like a gap of time makes the pain of losing someone any easier. I can't say it's lucky to have your wife and child killed, no matter how much time passes after that.
He had a time where he and sarita stayed alive for around 16 months though! He can't just completely ignore all the downtime he's had!
What? I like both characters.
In fact, I prefer Kenny to Lilly as a person.
This post wasn't intended as a point against Kenny. It was a point about the validity of what he said specifically here.
I completely agree.
Nothing I'm saying is contradicting that, I'm not saying he's a bad person for breaking or whatever!