400 days is Roman - Hes an overcontrolling mother fucker
Season 2 is Nick - I like Nicks design but i thought after episode 2 he was a nobody, and also i lost taste in him when everyone complained about his death for a week
So didnt Vernon die I think they mentioned it in 400 days (Nick was a bitch and got all depressed for now reason Kenny lost his whole family and he kinda got over it fast)
Season 1 is Larry - Hes an asshole, enough said
400 days is Roman - Hes an overcontrolling mother fucker
Season 2 is Nick - I like Nic… moreks design but i thought after episode 2 he was a nobody, and also i lost taste in him when everyone complained about his death for a week
So didnt Vernon die I think they mentioned it in 400 days (Nick was a bitch and got all depressed for now reason Kenny lost his whole family and he kinda got over it fast)
S1. Vernon, he was a jerk and I'm glad he supposedly died.
S2. Honestly, Carlos. He was rude to Clem in episode 1, and was condescending to her the rest of the time.
The worst thing about Larry isn't that he's an asshole. The worst thing is that he's such an over-the-top asshole he kinda killed my suspension of disbelief. Even in a zombie apocalypse...hell, especially in a zombie apocalypse, when nerves are on edge and people already have enough on their minds...anyone that relentlessly abusive to everyone around him would have been thrown out of the group long before three months elapsed.
Not to mention that Larry trying to kill Lee after Lee spent a big chunk of Episode 1 looking for meds to save his life never seems to get brought up again after a single throw-away comment near the end of that episode.
Larry in Season 1. He deserved to get his head crushed as soon as he hysterically called for a little boy to be eaten alive. It's strange how so many people even now try to defend his actions when, as Masamune said, he's unrealistically, cartoonishly antagonistic.
Dee in 400 Days. I can understand her frustration, but she steals from Roman's group, and gets herself killed by attempting to murder Bonnie while they're still being pursued.
Carlos in Season 2. I never forgave him for being the one who declared the idiotic plan to let Clem die, especially when it's implied that he knew anyway and was just too selfish to let Sarah meet another girl. His personality change in the second episode makes him come across as a hypocrite. His only redeeming feature, his love for his daughter, is also what's responsible for making her so traumatized in the first place.
The worst thing about Larry isn't that he's an asshole. The worst thing is that he's such an over-the-top asshole he kinda killed my suspens… moreion of disbelief. Even in a zombie apocalypse...hell, especially in a zombie apocalypse, when nerves are on edge and people already have enough on their minds...anyone that relentlessly abusive to everyone around him would have been thrown out of the group long before three months elapsed.
Not to mention that Larry trying to kill Lee after Lee spent a big chunk of Episode 1 looking for meds to save his life never seems to get brought up again after a single throw-away comment near the end of that episode.
That's just incredibly harsh, besides it wouldn't surprise me if there turned out to be a few Larry's in the ZA apocalypse, it makes some kind of sense and there is that background that he was kind of a military sergeant, so he's going to have a temper, it didn't really come off cartoonish to me at all, oh and him not trusting Lee also made some kind of sense, considering I probably wouldn't trust Lee either, I wouldn't try to kill him, but I
wouldn't think highly of him unless he proved that he wasn't a sack of shit that was running a sham with a little girl.
Larry in Season 1. He deserved to get his head crushed as soon as he hysterically called for a little boy to be eaten alive. It's strange … morehow so many people even now try to defend his actions when, as Masamune said, he's unrealistically, cartoonishly antagonistic.
Dee in 400 Days. I can understand her frustration, but she steals from Roman's group, and gets herself killed by attempting to murder Bonnie while they're still being pursued.
Carlos in Season 2. I never forgave him for being the one who declared the idiotic plan to let Clem die, especially when it's implied that he knew anyway and was just too selfish to let Sarah meet another girl. His personality change in the second episode makes him come across as a hypocrite. His only redeeming feature, his love for his daughter, is also what's responsible for making her so traumatized in the first place.
Lilly. She was always accusing people of doing things, and despite her efforts to keep the group together, she was the root of a lot of the problems. She only trusted her dad and herself. That won't get a group very far.
Carlos. The guy just didn't really resonate with me. I didn't dislike him, but he wasn't as interesting or investment-worthy as some of the other survivors in the group.
True. I dislike Larry but Larry had motive behind his actions. He knew Lee was a murderer and what he did. At the motor inn he had every excuse to hate him because His daughter is pretty much sleeping next door to a Murderer. And his daughter was the most important person and only family he had left. Also duck was covered head to toe in Walker blood and A walker even FELL ON TOP of him. Larry seeing that would be hella freaking out too.
And this knowledge passes down to Lilly later in Ep 3 where she's in a group with 2 of them (Lee and Kenny).
That's just incredibly harsh, besides it wouldn't surprise me if there turned out to be a few Larry's in the ZA apocalypse, it makes some ki… morend of sense and there is that background that he was kind of a military sergeant, so he's going to have a temper, it didn't really come off cartoonish to me at all, oh and him not trusting Lee also made some kind of sense, considering I probably wouldn't trust Lee either, I wouldn't try to kill him, but I
wouldn't think highly of him unless he proved that he wasn't a sack of shit that was running a sham with a little girl.
Huh? Well if you don't antagonize her she'll trust Lee too. And she was NOT the root of alot of problems, She was keeping a group together and had a great deal of patience for a woman still leading a group when one of them murdered her dad in the meat locker.
If you blame her for that then Gee, Kenny wont get the group very far cuz he'll be Throwing Salt licks on everyone's head if he even remotely thinks they'll turn.
Lilly. She was always accusing people of doing things, and despite her efforts to keep the group together, she was the root of a lot of the … moreproblems. She only trusted her dad and herself. That won't get a group very far.
Carlos. The guy just didn't really resonate with me. I didn't dislike him, but he wasn't as interesting or investment-worthy as some of the other survivors in the group.
Look, I just gave my point of view on why I didn't like her during my most recent playthrough. I'm not interested in getting into a "he did this, she did that" argument. Every character in this story was messed up. I simply found Lilly's messed upness to be the most offputting during season one.
Huh? Well if you don't antagonize her she'll trust Lee too. And she was NOT the root of alot of problems, She was keeping a group together a… morend had a great deal of patience for a woman still leading a group when one of them murdered her dad in the meat locker.
If you blame her for that then Gee, Kenny wont get the group very far cuz he'll be Throwing Salt licks on everyone's head if he even remotely thinks they'll turn.
You can dislike her all you like, but some of your statements are wrong. She was not the root of the problem. Larry was maybe, Kenny was maybe, Ben was maybe. It depends on the situation. She only reacted to the problems poorly. And she was accusing people because of good reason.
Ben was stealing meds.
Kenny murdered her dad.
Carley was accusing her of being a poor leader when she spent her entire waking moment making hard decisions that benefits the group despite the group disliking her. while no one else stepped up.
You also said she didn't trust anyone but her dad. If you replay Ep 1 she doesn't agree with her dad's decisions at all, but by Ep 2, her dad (and Lee at times) will be the only one to be on her side.
If your gonna give a reason give a solid one.
"I hate her because she killed Carley and Doug"
Look, I just gave my point of view on why I didn't like her during my most recent playthrough. I'm not interested in getting into a "he did … morethis, she did that" argument. Every character in this story was messed up. I simply found Lilly's messed upness to be the most offputting during season one.
I don't like her because she is paranoid and throws out baseless accusations. She never once risked herself despite the fact that I took the necessary steps to save her dad in episode one. We don't see her go hunting or scavenging in town, though she is more than happy to criticize the efforts of the people who do. While Kenny has some of the share of the divide in the group, she escalates it. Basically, she has a poor personality and we don't see her do much on-screen other than talk people down and throw out accusations. Other people contribute to the group. She is essentially an instigator and not as useful on-screen as the other characters. Her killing a character was just all of that manifested into one moment. In my eyes, she didn't have one redeeming quality. Also, while she did not want to kill Duck, she wanted to put him out, which is essentially the same thing when you get down to it.
Also, I never mentioned Carley or Doug in my original post. I don't know why you had to throw that in there.
You can dislike her all you like, but some of your statements are wrong. She was not the root of the problem. Larry was maybe, Kenny was may… morebe, Ben was maybe. It depends on the situation. She only reacted to the problems poorly. And she was accusing people because of good reason.
Ben was stealing meds.
Kenny murdered her dad.
Carley was accusing her of being a poor leader when she spent her entire waking moment making hard decisions that benefits the group despite the group disliking her. while no one else stepped up.
You also said she didn't trust anyone but her dad. If you replay Ep 1 she doesn't agree with her dad's decisions at all, but by Ep 2, her dad (and Lee at times) will be the only one to be on her side.
If your gonna give a reason give a solid one.
"I hate her because she killed Carley and Doug"
He's implied to be an abusive father both in his actions and by interviews, which makes his daughter's clinginess to him both tragic and frustrating. She needed to get away from him, although not in such a traumatic manner. And, of course, you can assume his tension towards Lee to be racially motivated in part. I'll never forgive that ingrateful shit for trying to murder Lee - Kenny really went up in my opinion for saving Lee.
So I still have no sympathy for him and don't regret killing him. Same with Dee, who the game forces you into killing anyway.
True. I dislike Larry but Larry had motive behind his actions. He knew Lee was a murderer and what he did. At the motor inn he had every exc… moreuse to hate him because His daughter is pretty much sleeping next door to a Murderer. And his daughter was the most important person and only family he had left. Also duck was covered head to toe in Walker blood and A walker even FELL ON TOP of him. Larry seeing that would be hella freaking out too.
And this knowledge passes down to Lilly later in Ep 3 where she's in a group with 2 of them (Lee and Kenny).
Season 1: Stranger. (He was so ugly, he was the reason Lee got bit, he stole Clem from Lee, he's dumb enough to take his little possibly 8 year old boy out hunting in a world like this.
400 Days: Dee or Roman. (Can't really pick. Dee was a bitch to Bonnie, and Roman was just an idiot.)
Season 2: Carver. (He's insane. He tortured Carlos in front of his daughter, pushed Reggie of the roof because of some berries, nearly kills Kenny with a walkie talkie, shoots Walter, shoots/torturing Alvin, willing to shoot a little girl, raped Rebecca) Can't think of more than this.
Season 1: Stranger. (He was so ugly, he was the reason Lee got bit, he stole Clem from Lee, he's dumb enough to take his little possibly 8 y… moreear old boy out hunting in a world like this.
400 Days: Dee or Roman. (Can't really pick. Dee was a bitch to Bonnie, and Roman was just an idiot.)
Season 2: Carver. (He's insane. He tortured Carlos in front of his daughter, pushed Reggie of the roof because of some berries, nearly kills Kenny with a walkie talkie, shoots Walter, shoots/torturing Alvin, willing to shoot a little girl, raped Rebecca) Can't think of more than this.
S1 Ben...that character annoyed me so much. I wanted him dead straight away. He consistently let you down. If clem can step up to the plate then he should even more so...
S2 Nick.... He's a stroppy kid that dosnt think at all about his actions.
1 - Larry. He sees Lee as a murderer and nothing more. You can get him Meds to save his life, give him food with rations are low and his daughter, give him an axe, stop him from eating human meat, take all these precautions and help him out. But he will hate you on your past alone. I imagine if Lilly had died, Larry could've been an amazing character. Or if he had lived if Lee got to resuscitate him. But nope. Punches you after you save his life. Asshole.
2 - Roman. There's a bunch of people you can dislike, like Nate, Danny, Walt or Becca. But Roman's the one asshole who can't realize there's a difference between outsiders and his group members. Killing someone whose been apart of your group for so long, without even attempting to rationally discuss it, without at least letting everyone end the discussion on proper terms? You can kill a group member, so as long as everyone makes their peace with it, not butcher her in the back of a truck. Group was bound to fall apart after that, and considering all he has left are old coots, I didn't really fear Roman.
3 - Episode 3 Carver. I don't need to explain this one.
season 1: Larry, both in "character i hate" and "bad writing" his un-likability was somewhat unrealistic, it would be nicer if he wasn't THAT much of a jerk and he just had anger issues or something, but no, we never get to see him do something nice, or show some basic kindness, but no, and also, he tries to murder lee in the end of episode 1, looks like people forget that little bit.
400 days: ehh, dee, i think, she's an unpleasant person all around, and she stole those...eh..things?
Season 2: Carver, once again on both terms, he is just so sadistic, he has such fucked up moral system which he doesn't even bother to see through correctly(Reggie was STRONG, maintaining a good spirit is the real strength), and I'm quite annoyed they didn't make him deeper.
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Season 1-Brie. Shoehorned in for a contest winner.
Season 2-The Raccoon. Mike didn't get to eat the shit out of it.
Season 1 is Larry - Hes an asshole, enough said
400 days is Roman - Hes an overcontrolling mother fucker
Season 2 is Nick - I like Nicks design but i thought after episode 2 he was a nobody, and also i lost taste in him when everyone complained about his death for a week
Haha Why was Brie such a bitch?
Michelle. She killed Omid, one of my favourite characters in the game, and held a defenseless eight year old at gun point.
So didnt Vernon die I think they mentioned it in 400 days (Nick was a bitch and got all depressed for now reason Kenny lost his whole family and he kinda got over it fast)
Luke.
Lilly.
Well... he had to shoot his own mom and either had to watch his uncle get devoured or see his bloodied corpse.
I have another question. Do you think Kenny will live? Luke will live? Or will they both die?
A least likable person or a person with least character's development?
If it's least likable then I'm going with Larry and Michelle
S1. Vernon, he was a jerk and I'm glad he supposedly died.
S2. Honestly, Carlos. He was rude to Clem in episode 1, and was condescending to her the rest of the time.
Season 1? Vernon. Motherfucker stole our boat.
Season 2? Michelle. Bitch shot our plucky comic relief.
The worst thing about Larry isn't that he's an asshole. The worst thing is that he's such an over-the-top asshole he kinda killed my suspension of disbelief. Even in a zombie apocalypse...hell, especially in a zombie apocalypse, when nerves are on edge and people already have enough on their minds...anyone that relentlessly abusive to everyone around him would have been thrown out of the group long before three months elapsed.
Not to mention that Larry trying to kill Lee after Lee spent a big chunk of Episode 1 looking for meds to save his life never seems to get brought up again after a single throw-away comment near the end of that episode.
Larry in Season 1. He deserved to get his head crushed as soon as he hysterically called for a little boy to be eaten alive. It's strange how so many people even now try to defend his actions when, as Masamune said, he's unrealistically, cartoonishly antagonistic.
Dee in 400 Days. I can understand her frustration, but she steals from Roman's group, and gets herself killed by attempting to murder Bonnie while they're still being pursued.
Carlos in Season 2. I never forgave him for being the one who declared the idiotic plan to let Clem die, especially when it's implied that he knew anyway and was just too selfish to let Sarah meet another girl. His personality change in the second episode makes him come across as a hypocrite. His only redeeming feature, his love for his daughter, is also what's responsible for making her so traumatized in the first place.
ClemIsBest
My FAVORITE characters are Clementine, Lee and Kenny!
Jane. She is almost an exact clone of Molly and that is boring.
S1- Clyde from 400 Days. (Fat cop from Vince's story)
S2- I guess Michelle. Everyone else has like ability in them.
Who is your least favorite character in both seasons and why?
Ooops! Sorry buddy.
Well....3 month timeskip and Lily was the semi leader of the group, so she wouldn't let anyone kick her dad out.
That's just incredibly harsh, besides it wouldn't surprise me if there turned out to be a few Larry's in the ZA apocalypse, it makes some kind of sense and there is that background that he was kind of a military sergeant, so he's going to have a temper, it didn't really come off cartoonish to me at all, oh and him not trusting Lee also made some kind of sense, considering I probably wouldn't trust Lee either, I wouldn't try to kill him, but I
wouldn't think highly of him unless he proved that he wasn't a sack of shit that was running a sham with a little girl.
Season 1: Any of the St. John's family. I'd happily grant a grisly death to one of those bastards
400 days - Dee.
Season 2 - Troy. He's a bastard. He happily followed Carver's order and was willing to go with the group when they escaped.
No. Just no.
Lilly. She was always accusing people of doing things, and despite her efforts to keep the group together, she was the root of a lot of the problems. She only trusted her dad and herself. That won't get a group very far.
Carlos. The guy just didn't really resonate with me. I didn't dislike him, but he wasn't as interesting or investment-worthy as some of the other survivors in the group.
True. I dislike Larry but Larry had motive behind his actions. He knew Lee was a murderer and what he did. At the motor inn he had every excuse to hate him because His daughter is pretty much sleeping next door to a Murderer. And his daughter was the most important person and only family he had left. Also duck was covered head to toe in Walker blood and A walker even FELL ON TOP of him. Larry seeing that would be hella freaking out too.
And this knowledge passes down to Lilly later in Ep 3 where she's in a group with 2 of them (Lee and Kenny).
Huh? Well if you don't antagonize her she'll trust Lee too. And she was NOT the root of alot of problems, She was keeping a group together and had a great deal of patience for a woman still leading a group when one of them murdered her dad in the meat locker.
If you blame her for that then Gee, Kenny wont get the group very far cuz he'll be Throwing Salt licks on everyone's head if he even remotely thinks they'll turn.
Look, I just gave my point of view on why I didn't like her during my most recent playthrough. I'm not interested in getting into a "he did this, she did that" argument. Every character in this story was messed up. I simply found Lilly's messed upness to be the most offputting during season one.
Its been a while since she had any, Vernon ran out of Cialis
You can dislike her all you like, but some of your statements are wrong. She was not the root of the problem. Larry was maybe, Kenny was maybe, Ben was maybe. It depends on the situation. She only reacted to the problems poorly. And she was accusing people because of good reason.
Ben was stealing meds.
Kenny murdered her dad.
Carley was accusing her of being a poor leader when she spent her entire waking moment making hard decisions that benefits the group despite the group disliking her. while no one else stepped up.
You also said she didn't trust anyone but her dad. If you replay Ep 1 she doesn't agree with her dad's decisions at all, but by Ep 2, her dad (and Lee at times) will be the only one to be on her side.
If your gonna give a reason give a solid one.
"I hate her because she killed Carley and Doug"
I don't like her because she is paranoid and throws out baseless accusations. She never once risked herself despite the fact that I took the necessary steps to save her dad in episode one. We don't see her go hunting or scavenging in town, though she is more than happy to criticize the efforts of the people who do. While Kenny has some of the share of the divide in the group, she escalates it. Basically, she has a poor personality and we don't see her do much on-screen other than talk people down and throw out accusations. Other people contribute to the group. She is essentially an instigator and not as useful on-screen as the other characters. Her killing a character was just all of that manifested into one moment. In my eyes, she didn't have one redeeming quality. Also, while she did not want to kill Duck, she wanted to put him out, which is essentially the same thing when you get down to it.
Also, I never mentioned Carley or Doug in my original post. I don't know why you had to throw that in there.
He's implied to be an abusive father both in his actions and by interviews, which makes his daughter's clinginess to him both tragic and frustrating. She needed to get away from him, although not in such a traumatic manner. And, of course, you can assume his tension towards Lee to be racially motivated in part. I'll never forgive that ingrateful shit for trying to murder Lee - Kenny really went up in my opinion for saving Lee.
So I still have no sympathy for him and don't regret killing him. Same with Dee, who the game forces you into killing anyway.
Season 1: Stranger. (He was so ugly, he was the reason Lee got bit, he stole Clem from Lee, he's dumb enough to take his little possibly 8 year old boy out hunting in a world like this.
400 Days: Dee or Roman. (Can't really pick. Dee was a bitch to Bonnie, and Roman was just an idiot.)
Season 2: Carver. (He's insane. He tortured Carlos in front of his daughter, pushed Reggie of the roof because of some berries, nearly kills Kenny with a walkie talkie, shoots Walter, shoots/torturing Alvin, willing to shoot a little girl, raped Rebecca) Can't think of more than this.
I doubt carver raped her
S1 Ben...that character annoyed me so much. I wanted him dead straight away. He consistently let you down. If clem can step up to the plate then he should even more so...
S2 Nick.... He's a stroppy kid that dosnt think at all about his actions.
Michelle.Fuck that heartless bitch.
1 - Larry. He sees Lee as a murderer and nothing more. You can get him Meds to save his life, give him food with rations are low and his daughter, give him an axe, stop him from eating human meat, take all these precautions and help him out. But he will hate you on your past alone. I imagine if Lilly had died, Larry could've been an amazing character. Or if he had lived if Lee got to resuscitate him. But nope. Punches you after you save his life. Asshole.
2 - Roman. There's a bunch of people you can dislike, like Nate, Danny, Walt or Becca. But Roman's the one asshole who can't realize there's a difference between outsiders and his group members. Killing someone whose been apart of your group for so long, without even attempting to rationally discuss it, without at least letting everyone end the discussion on proper terms? You can kill a group member, so as long as everyone makes their peace with it, not butcher her in the back of a truck. Group was bound to fall apart after that, and considering all he has left are old coots, I didn't really fear Roman.
3 - Episode 3 Carver. I don't need to explain this one.
Lilly because she kills Carley for no fucking reason...
umm, let's see
season 1: Larry, both in "character i hate" and "bad writing" his un-likability was somewhat unrealistic, it would be nicer if he wasn't THAT much of a jerk and he just had anger issues or something, but no, we never get to see him do something nice, or show some basic kindness, but no, and also, he tries to murder lee in the end of episode 1, looks like people forget that little bit.
400 days: ehh, dee, i think, she's an unpleasant person all around, and she stole those...eh..things?
Season 2: Carver, once again on both terms, he is just so sadistic, he has such fucked up moral system which he doesn't even bother to see through correctly(Reggie was STRONG, maintaining a good spirit is the real strength), and I'm quite annoyed they didn't make him deeper.
Clive probably had some Viagra but didn't share...
If you stay he says something like
Carver: Don't pretend you didn't like every second of it, bitch!
To Rebecca.