did any1 else feel sorry for lilly (not saying what she did was right please just read first)?

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  • jesus fuck stop comparing Lee and Lily
    Lee was a badass and died protecting her
    Lily though was the leader of the group and went crazy after her father died
    she killed one of her own just because she was "hurt" lamest excuse ever

    BenSawyer90 posted: »

    so why would u hate her for shooting carley, how is lee murdering the senator better than lilly murdering carley

  • I'm not sure your Lily obsession is healthy
    some people don't like her just like you don't like Kenny thats it maybe they (me included) will change their opinion if she redeems herself somehow in E5 or S3 if not then fuck her
    So why do you keep defending her as if she was fucking perfect? stop you asskisser
    its just a video game character

    BenSawyer90 posted: »

    tht doesn't answer any of the reasons i brought up as to why u should ignorin them is just being closeminded

  • i like that this game is deep

    isnt that the whole point, the emotional depth of the game and its characters

    i mean ur reasons for saying u hate her r completely unfounded so why even have that opinion

    Lee-Wolf posted: »

    lol... its just a game remember? don't need to get too deep into that, and I love this game because of that, that it gets you emotionly invo

  • BenSawyer90BenSawyer90 Banned
    edited August 2014

    ys BUT imagine if we had killed lee after he murdered someone

    all lee did happened AFTER he killed someone, therefore lilly can still redeem herselrf

    u dont think being traumatised and bullied and left to die is a very good reason for going crazy?

    ur out of your mind, i bet u were okay with ken punching lee after losing katjaa or him being horrible to clem after she killed sarita

    u just dont olike lilly and r looking for excuses to hate on her instead of making valid points against her character (which are there, you're just giving stupid reasons)

    Journey95 posted: »

    jesus fuck stop comparing Lee and Lily Lee was a badass and died protecting her Lily though was the leader of the group and went crazy after her father died she killed one of her own just because she was "hurt" lamest excuse ever

  • i like kenny i don't like the way some kenny fans have acted

    Journey95 posted: »

    I'm not sure your Lily obsession is healthy some people don't like her just like you don't like Kenny thats it maybe they (me included) wi

  • do u think its ok that Kenny killed Carver?

    BenSawyer90 posted: »

    i like that this game is deep isnt that the whole point, the emotional depth of the game and its characters i mean ur reasons for saying u hate her r completely unfounded so why even have that opinion

  • yes cause he showed no signs of remorse for anything he did and killed many many people

    lilly was shocked at what she did (look at her face after she shoots) and only killed one person

    i don't think kenny should have beat his head in with a bar tho, i think they shoudl hav shot him in the face

    Lee-Wolf posted: »

    do u think its ok that Kenny killed Carver?

  • so what u saying its ok to kill, don't matter who, good person bad person, fuck it lol

    BenSawyer90 posted: »

    yes cause he showed no signs of remorse for anything he did and killed many many people lilly was shocked at what she did (look at her fa

  • no, im saying whether its good to kill depends on more than the act itself

    Lee-Wolf posted: »

    so what u saying its ok to kill, don't matter who, good person bad person, fuck it lol

  • my point is that Lee already redeemed himself, Lilly didn't, so there no reason to defend her just yet :)

    BenSawyer90 posted: »

    yes cause he showed no signs of remorse for anything he did and killed many many people lilly was shocked at what she did (look at her fa

  • when I said that I ''hated'' her, I meant that it was the emotion created at that particular moment, I don't actually hate her, im not that crazy to hate a fiction character lol

    BenSawyer90 posted: »

    yes cause he showed no signs of remorse for anything he did and killed many many people lilly was shocked at what she did (look at her fa

  • im not saying what she did was okay, im just saying i understand why she did it ok?

    Lee-Wolf posted: »

    my point is that Lee already redeemed himself, Lilly didn't, so there no reason to defend her just yet

  • oh ok thts good

    Lee-Wolf posted: »

    when I said that I ''hated'' her, I meant that it was the emotion created at that particular moment, I don't actually hate her, im not that crazy to hate a fiction character lol

  • I don't, same with Kenny killing her father, or Lee killing senator, that somebody have mental breakdown doesn't make killing another person ''understandable'' :)
    but I guess you think otherwise

    BenSawyer90 posted: »

    im not saying what she did was okay, im just saying i understand why she did it ok?

  • I understand why she did it but if see her again I won't be nice and might just kill her if she doesn't watch her words

  • I liked Lilly, but damn her father. I did a play-through treating Larry as nicely as possible and he still hates you no matter what! I'm referring to when you are locked in the meat locker and you have that one last optional conversation with him. Oh well I suppose I have nothing to worry about if for some odd reason she does comes back, as I treated her as nicely as possible as well lets see how that works out gulp.

  • I actually feel so sorry for Lilly and I regret leaving her behind when she killed Carley. After Larry's death MY Lee was the only thing left in her life that she cared for (Said by Carley). I do forgive her. I hope she comes back in episode 5 so I can apologize to her :P

  • Yes, I felt sorry for Lilly, because I could understand she was going through a rough time, and wasn't thinking straight. I was still mad regardless that she shot Carley in cold blood though, which is why I left her behind, but I'd be willing to forgive her if she ever does return, because just about every character has done something questionable at some point this far into the apocalypse. And it's worth mentioning that Lee killed that senator in cold blood too, so if he can redeem himself for that past mistake, I'm sure Lilly can as well. It's not like she looked happy or proud with what she did.

  • "All ur family is dead (killed quite brutally in front of ur own eyes as u tried to save them)" And betrayed the person who (determinently) tried to save him.

    "U tried to help the group by saying how medecine was missing and they called u crazy" And helping the group is throwing accusations at people?

    "Kenny tried to LEAVE U TO DIE IN THE MOTOR INN" We are talking about Lilly, not Kenny.

    "An then carley calls her hurtful things (least bad but triggered emotional outbrake)" She was defending herself against the accusations which LILLY was throwing at her.

    You happy, now?

    BenSawyer90 posted: »

    tht doesn't answer any of the reasons i brought up as to why u should ignorin them is just being closeminded

  • Yeah I mean I agree what she did to Carley/Doug was wrong but I understood what she was feeling.

  • CrazyGeorgeCrazyGeorge Banned
    edited August 2014

    Lilly Kills Carley, the sad girl.

    I forgave Lilly, because i know how she feels.

    I let her back on the RV after shooting Carley

    then she stole from me...

    So at this point fuck her.

    If i see her, Game Over.

    Alt text

  • I felt bad after Kenny killed her dad, but after she shot Carley and stole the RV. I have no sympathy for her.

  • edited August 2014

    She was in a state of great emotional and mental anguish.
    See her dad die in front of her, that is sure time take a toll on a person's psyche.
    And it is truly a shame It had to play ot way!
    Even though I did not like Lilly, and helped Kenny, it was still a hard thing to do.
    Which is why I spared Andy, as ENOUGH damage had already been done in my book, and didn't want to do anymore.
    But I digress!

    If she were to have genuinely shown remorse and heartfelt repentance, then yes, I'd forgive her.
    But before I would do so, she would have to work really hard to regain my trust.
    And if, or once she had done that, I would forgive her, and welcome her back into the group.

    Now some may ask, why not forgive her, and allow her back in to the group, and then make her regain your trust?
    Very simple, to say I forgive her, and allow her back in, but then say I don't trust her, would not be demonstrating true forgiveness.

  • I killed all the Cannibals,

    Sometimes you need to weed the Garden to make sure the flowers are ok.

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    She was in a state of great emotional and mental anguish. See her dad die in front of her, that is sure time take a toll on a person's psyc

  • I understand your reasoning.
    However, the idea of hurting others is repugnant to me.
    Even though it's just a videogame, I'm still not cool with the idea.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    I killed all the Cannibals, Sometimes you need to weed the Garden to make sure the flowers are ok.

  • Strange I spared Andy because killing him would've been letting him off easy "nah an you live with it and remember"

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    She was in a state of great emotional and mental anguish. See her dad die in front of her, that is sure time take a toll on a person's psyc

  • I was always on Lily side I felt sorry for her when Kenny killed Larry I never Hated her. I always sided with her too. Kenny is a A$$ hole!

  • Of course I did, I brought her with me and I can understand why she did it. She lost her father, she saw her father literally get murdered right in front of her. Of course she would go crazy. I love how people are quick to say "Oh yeah well Lilly shot Carley" yet when it comes to Kenny murdering Larry in cold blood, then suddenly it's fine.

  • I think those who helped Kenny kill Larry never saw the softer side of Lilly and just thought she was just a horrible person.
    However, if you helped Lilly with Larry and then sided with her on a few things you can see a much lighter side to Lilly and
    that the weight of leadership and losing her father is a huge burden.

  • A lot more people would have seen this softer side, as a lot more people helped Lilly revive Larry (and if you do so quick enough you actually see him breath before Kenny kills him). Lilly is still one of my favourite characters and I cannot wait for her to return!

    kaza125 posted: »

    I think those who helped Kenny kill Larry never saw the softer side of Lilly and just thought she was just a horrible person. However, if y

  • she does show remorse if you look at the expression on her face after she shoots

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    She was in a state of great emotional and mental anguish. See her dad die in front of her, that is sure time take a toll on a person's psyc

  • she wanted to get away from the group

    you kno0w the people who tried to abandon her to the bandits after she tried to save them (kenny drove away without her)

    she thinks they all hate her and she couldn't take that pressure

    not to mention, as she was originally in the comics, she HAD to leave at some point unlike kenny so the stiory necessitated it and shouldn't necessaraly be taken as a point against her

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Lilly Kills Carley, the sad girl. I forgave Lilly, because i know how she feels. I let her back on the RV after shooting Carley then she stole from me... So at this point fuck her. If i see her, Game Over.

  • edited August 2014

    I have to disagree.
    If you let her stay, she runs off with the Rv, leaving everyone to die.
    Even if you have Lee say he and Clementine will come with her, she leaves them both, as soon as Lee exits the trailer.
    Thus showing herself to be dishonest, as she said she would wait for Lee to get clemintine, and that she was only looking after herself.

    So that's why I have a hard time believing her show of remorse, immediately after shooting Carly, was truly genuine.
    I honestly feel it was just an act.

    BenSawyer90 posted: »

    she does show remorse if you look at the expression on her face after she shoots

  • Let's just get a few things straight.

    Yes after the sad event of Kenny killing Lillys dad you can understand the intense and paranoid state she was in. I was very willing to ease up to Lilly because of this, helping her with the supply investigation.

    But after the bandit attack she saw fit to put the situation into a state where it didn't need to go, she began to accuse Ben and Carley/Doug angrily just after all that's happened. Lily didn't care for everyone else, all she cared for was getting revenge on whoever got her out of the motel. She could have waited, she could have at least let this discussion happen under more stable and peaceful circumstances. But no, she begins to bully Ben persistently with her accusations even when everyone is asking her to stop.

    Then you have the incident outside the RV, she snaps even further putting Ben in an ultimatum and unfairly putting everyone with the guild of doing a vote on it. What sort of leader bullies their people and forces others to pick whether they live or die.She wasn't considering anyone else's feelings on the matter and was so frustrated with what happened she acted bilndly.

    Then there was the whole incident with the shooting of Doug/Carley. Granted you can give the excuse Doug was an accident, but consider the fact she originally was going to shoot ben on her own whim, how is that any better? She took it into he own right to choose his guilt after bullying him to an almost confession. Carleys is just worse because it shows how much of a bitch she is, I mean if someone told me I was acting like a bitch the very last thing I would do is bloody SHOOT THEM! It's just such a bad and selfish thing to do. What's that? She felt shock after doing it? Oh well that makes it ok then, I'm sure Doug/Carley will be understanding of that, it was all just a spur of the moment right? She killed them, no matter whether she feels bad for it or not, she killed them for selfish and undignified reasons.

    Even when you try to protect her and tell her the truth about your past, she will still rat you out to Kenny about your past all so she can get some slack for what she did. What sort of friend is that!?

    Then finally she steals the RV even when she asks Lee to come with her, after everything he would have done for her she just ignores all that and leaves him with the rest of the group.

    So after a long hard think, No. I don't feel sorry for her, she was selfish and cruel and she deserved to be left out on the road where she should have died! If she returns I will enjoy putting a bullet in her head just to dish out justice for Carley and Doug.

  • edited August 2014

    I felt sorry for her up until the second she shot Carley/Doug. Then I left her on the side of the road.

  • BenSawyer90BenSawyer90 Banned
    edited August 2014

    her reason for stealing wasn't 'oh i wnt them all to die' it was 'oh i hav to get away frm these people who hate me'

    she regrets what she did by shooting by that doesnt stop the group hating her thewrefore she fled

    i dont see how her running away shows that she doesnt feel bad about what she did it just shows she doesnt want to be in the group and thinks they all hate her

    especially after kenny left her to die

    ALSO can i just say this: her face was shock, u can't really fake that in the sense that it was:

    look at her face after it, that is genuine emotion, she isn't trying to trick them into thinkin she felt bad for it thts absurd peoples brains dont work like tht when they do something so grim and unlike them

    sayin 'lilly was faking her look of shock' is like saying 'lee was faking his look of shock wen lilly did it cause he knew she would do it all along an he wanted the group not to know this so thy dont hate him'

    like tht kind of thing is making up reason to hate her not choosing one of the valid reasons to hate her that have evidence tht is just tryin to make everything she do look bad

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    I have to disagree. If you let her stay, she runs off with the Rv, leaving everyone to die. Even if you have Lee say he and Clementine wil

  • she started to accuse them of that after kenny tried to abadon her which furthered her paranoia

    ALSO IT WASN'T JUS REVENGE REMEMBER

    IFSHE WOULD KILL ANYONE FOR REVENGE IT WOULD BE KENNY

    She dus care about others as she killed CARLEY OR DOUG (BEN) BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS HELPING THE GROUP

    IF SHE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THEM AT ALL SHE WOULDN'T HAVE TAUGHT THEM HOW TO FIRE GUNS WHICH SAVED THEM FROM BANDITS OR EVEN TRIED TO RESCUE THEM FROM BANDITS IN THE FIRST PLACE

    i get sick of people not looking at all her actions and only looking at a few

    Let's just get a few things straight. Yes after the sad event of Kenny killing Lillys dad you can understand the intense and paranoid sta

  • edited August 2014

    She thought it was helping the group? How in all of gods holy destroyed earth did you come to such an assumption?

    Giving supplies helps a group.

    Choping off an infection to save a life is helping a group.

    Helping to find safety is helping a group.

    Killing someone because they called them a bitch is not helping the group, that's just selfish, that's just inconsiderate.and it's insane.

    I'm not just looking into specific actions, but throughout episode 1, 2 and 3 she was very rude and selfish to people. When Lee brought injured people back it wasn't "Let's help them and get them on their way" it was "I want to know why you think bring more mouths to feed was a good idea?" Same in episode 1, you enter the pharmacy she gets frustrated for allowing strangers in. She acted like the group was her own dictatorship and when things didn't go her way or Kenny or Lee oppressed her she got bitchy.

    You make out she's a the paragon of the apocalypse, she's not. She was weak in the end, she let her paranoia and fear get the better of her and she snapped and took it out on Ben and Carley/Doug. She rats you out about your past no matter whether you sided with her or not, just so she can get less of a blame in the moment. She abandons you and Clementine and steals the RV even if you were loyal to her.

    Face it, she was weak and selfish, and you can write in CAPS LOCK to make your points stand out even more but it doesn't change the point. She was wrong, she still is wrong, and the minute I see her face a bullet is going straight into her head as compensation for what she did to Carley and Doug.

    BenSawyer90 posted: »

    she started to accuse them of that after kenny tried to abadon her which furthered her paranoia ALSO IT WASN'T JUS REVENGE REMEMBER IF

  • because she thought someone in the group was betraying them (ben or carley)

    she killed them because she was angry AND SUSPECTED THEY BETRAYED THE GROUP which is what the whole rant in the rv is actually about

    maybe u should listen to wat she actually said in her dialogue in the rv instead of makin up reasons to hate her

    She thought it was helping the group? How in all of gods holy destroyed earth did you come to such an assumption? Giving supplies helps a

  • I don't know if you forgot but Lilly murdered Carley/Doug. I would understand if she punched him but shoot? No way I'd forgive her.

    BenSawyer90 posted: »

    thats fair enough plus as pride says below something worth considering is that she taught the group how to use guns between episode 1 and

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