There was another slide for 'In Sheep's Clothing'? I thought the slide for 'A Crooked Mile' was the only one that got changed?
Besides, I would love to see Brannigan in that cute jogging attire if they ever bring her back.
Nerissa didn't had a ribbon in the preview for EP2 and in the files there was a girl named Charlotte but never appeared. But the funny thing is Bigby said against Holly that her sister ''Lilly'' was dead... In the files he said Charlotte.
Jack appeared in the ''Open Arms hotel'' and no he didn't make love
Brainwave what if the second season plot (up to episode 3) was something like this: NOTE a lot of this stuff is not finished this like a 1st draft.
It is 2 days after the last episode and Bigby is in his office and will either:
be doing paperwork on a event (not sure what TT can do this part) let say this involves Jack and Woody just because This is if you choose to walk away at the end
or have two folders one about Nerissa and one about Faith and just trying to figure what the hell is going on If you choose to follow her
Stuff along the lines of this in episode 1, NOTE after the office scene Bigby will focus on the event (the one TT will do) I don't know how this would end.
In episode 2 there is a fight straight away (Nobody will suffer long term effects e.g silver bullets, crippled limbs or death) goes on between Bigby and Jack because he refused to say stuff about the event it gets out of hand someone (a mundy walking by) calls the police, Brannigan (Bran for short) comes and in attempt to break up the fight she sees Bigby's eye go yellow. The fight end practically as soon a Bran appears, Bigby and Jack need to go the police and have statements done and both pay fines. Bran thinks that Bigby and ONLY Bigby not human, she will try find out more by "stalking" him and Bigby notices this, the episode ends with Snow finding out.
Episode 3 has the politic struggle episode because Snow says this is something fabletown needs to know about, Bluebeard finds out before fabletown (somehow I don't know TT can figure that out) and then during the disscussion with fabletown (the important characters e.g Woody, Holly, Lawrence [if alive], beauty, beast and any else who is important to the plot and wasn't in the crooked man's gang (e.g Jersey Devil) and it is decided that he is suspended from duty till it this is sorted out, Bluebeard is appointed as a temporal shieff (or someone else but not Beast because it would ruin the cannon), there could be a choice between two fables here Bluebeard or someone else NOTE during the whole episode Snow is disappointed with Bigby "losing control" and sometime probably the start has a talk with Bigby and will also mention previous morally bad choices (e.g if you rip of Gren's arm, killing Dum, how you interrogated the fable in episode 2 and possibly how you talk to the citizens of fabletown). At the end of the episode
WOW lot of writing thanking for reading...I guess (again this probably won't happen but keep an open mind) EDIT: If people take lots of intrest in this I will start a new discussion and expand to episode 4 and 5 and talk more choice and consequence
The Boy Who Cried Wolf (taxi driver) was also rumored to have more involvement in the story as well, and I also saw an unused character mode… morel floating around for an older female character. Also, rumor has it Mr Toad actually was supposed to have a glamoured form that resembled Jersey Devil's glamour.
EDIT: Secondly, keep in mind that none of the achievements for any Episode after Episode 1 fit the story (unless the achievement name was already vague).
Well, you've gained my interest with your predictions of how the season will play out! I don't think that people would approve Bluebeard being appointed sheriff though. Then again, it would make for an interesting scenario. Something that Bigby would redeem his sheriff status with, maybe?
Brainwave what if the second season plot (up to episode 3) was something like this:
NOTE a lot of this stuff is not finished this like a 1… morest draft.
It is 2 days after the last episode and Bigby is in his office and will either:
be doing paperwork on a event (not sure what TT can do this part) let say this involves Jack and Woody just because This is if you choose to walk away at the end
or have two folders one about Nerissa and one about Faith and just trying to figure what the hell is going on If you choose to follow her
Stuff along the lines of this in episode 1, NOTE after the office scene Bigby will focus on the event (the one TT will do) I don't know how this would end.
In episode 2 there is a fight straight away (Nobody will suffer long term effects e.g silver bullets, crippled limbs or death) goes on between Bigby and Jack because he refused to say stuff about the event it gets out of hand someone (a mundy walking by) cal… [view original content]
Well, you've gained my interest with your predictions of how the season will play out! I don't think that people would approve Bluebeard bei… moreng appointed sheriff though. Then again, it would make for an interesting scenario. Something that Bigby would redeem his sheriff status with, maybe?
Well, you've gained my interest with your predictions of how the season will play out! I don't think that people would approve Bluebeard bei… moreng appointed sheriff though. Then again, it would make for an interesting scenario. Something that Bigby would redeem his sheriff status with, maybe?
What I don't get is how something as big as the Brannigan plot could slip by Bill Willingham during initial story development. He was supposedly pretty involved in the big beats of the story and the season arc so I don't get how something like this could've happen.
He was probably very involved with the first episode that apparently went very well, no issues from him, but when the second episode and that plot line came along, he slammed the breaks. I think if he knew that was the direction they were considering, he would have said something.
What I don't get is how something as big as the Brannigan plot could slip by Bill Willingham during initial story development. He was suppos… moreedly pretty involved in the big beats of the story and the season arc so I don't get how something like this could've happen.
We'll never know if the original plot was better, but I can say one thing for sure, the major rewrites definitely affected the development and polish of the game. Episode 2 especially was rough around the edges and lacked the polish of Episode 1. Things got back together in Episode 3 which was good. I imagine some of the other sub-plots underwent some changes during the rewrites, but I can't say for sure. If they had to rewrite an entire plot line then I can only imagine how that can affect everything else.
The original plot would have been better, Telltale got restricted by the comics instead of diverting the original material to create an orig… moreinal adventure. This ill-handling didn't happen with the walking dead because the characters were fully a telltale creation.
But if he was involved with the season arc, don't you think he would have known about the Brannigan plot? Or did he just not realized it until somebody else pointed it out to him after EP 1 had come out? I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around this.
He was probably very involved with the first episode that apparently went very well, no issues from him, but when the second episode and tha… moret plot line came along, he slammed the breaks. I think if he knew that was the direction they were considering, he would have said something.
We'll never know if the original plot was better, but I can say one thing for sure, the major rewrites definitely affected the development a… morend polish of the game. Episode 2 especially was rough around the edges and lacked the polish of Episode 1. Things got back together in Episode 3 which was good. I imagine some of the other sub-plots underwent some changes during the rewrites, but I can't say for sure. If they had to rewrite an entire plot line then I can only imagine how that can affect everything else.
Well, it's no big news, but this proofs that the ep.1 was totally rewritten after the TWD success. More info on GDC vault (the video in not available for free, but the slides are and are pretty self-explaining):
Ok this is a stupid theory but since season 2 is pretty much confirmed what if the old pictures for A Crooked Mile and In Sheep's Clothing are in season 2 (probably not but keep an open mind)
Oh yeah, thats been known for awhile. Telltale changed their original FABLES puzzle game or whatever to the Wolf Among Us, a much more darker game with choice/consequence gameplay similar to the Walking Dead. I figure this thread is more about the rewrite that took place during the season itself.
Well, it's no big news, but this proofs that the ep.1 was totally rewritten after the TWD success. More info on GDC vault (the video in not … moreavailable for free, but the slides are and are pretty self-explaining):
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1020918/Unleashing-The-Wolf-Adapting-Fables
I'm pretty sure the game would've been dark anyways. Even before Walking Dead, Telltale had experience with dark games like Jurassic Park and Law and Order. Obviously, those weren't as dark as Walking Dead, but they weren't exactly sunshine and rainbows either.
Oh yeah, thats been known for awhile. Telltale changed their original FABLES puzzle game or whatever to the Wolf Among Us, a much more darke… morer game with choice/consequence gameplay similar to the Walking Dead. I figure this thread is more about the rewrite that took place during the season itself.
I'm pretty sure the game would've been dark anyways. Even before Walking Dead, Telltale had experience with dark games like Jurassic Park an… mored Law and Order. Obviously, those weren't as dark as Walking Dead, but they weren't exactly sunshine and rainbows either.
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My mistake, I meant if in an episode in season 2 there was a power struggle with Snow and Bluebeard steps in
Nerissa didn't had a ribbon in the preview for EP2 and in the files there was a girl named Charlotte but never appeared. But the funny thing is Bigby said against Holly that her sister ''Lilly'' was dead... In the files he said Charlotte.
Jack appeared in the ''Open Arms hotel'' and no he didn't make love
It'd be nice to see, TWAU needs more political tension like that.
Brainwave what if the second season plot (up to episode 3) was something like this:
NOTE a lot of this stuff is not finished this like a 1st draft.
It is 2 days after the last episode and Bigby is in his office and will either:
be doing paperwork on a event (not sure what TT can do this part) let say this involves Jack and Woody just because This is if you choose to walk away at the end
or have two folders one about Nerissa and one about Faith and just trying to figure what the hell is going on If you choose to follow her
Stuff along the lines of this in episode 1, NOTE after the office scene Bigby will focus on the event (the one TT will do) I don't know how this would end.
In episode 2 there is a fight straight away (Nobody will suffer long term effects e.g silver bullets, crippled limbs or death) goes on between Bigby and Jack because he refused to say stuff about the event it gets out of hand someone (a mundy walking by) calls the police, Brannigan (Bran for short) comes and in attempt to break up the fight she sees Bigby's eye go yellow. The fight end practically as soon a Bran appears, Bigby and Jack need to go the police and have statements done and both pay fines. Bran thinks that Bigby and ONLY Bigby not human, she will try find out more by "stalking" him and Bigby notices this, the episode ends with Snow finding out.
Episode 3 has the politic struggle episode because Snow says this is something fabletown needs to know about, Bluebeard finds out before fabletown (somehow I don't know TT can figure that out) and then during the disscussion with fabletown (the important characters e.g Woody, Holly, Lawrence [if alive], beauty, beast and any else who is important to the plot and wasn't in the crooked man's gang (e.g Jersey Devil) and it is decided that he is suspended from duty till it this is sorted out, Bluebeard is appointed as a temporal shieff (or someone else but not Beast because it would ruin the cannon), there could be a choice between two fables here Bluebeard or someone else NOTE during the whole episode Snow is disappointed with Bigby "losing control" and sometime probably the start has a talk with Bigby and will also mention previous morally bad choices (e.g if you rip of Gren's arm, killing Dum, how you interrogated the fable in episode 2 and possibly how you talk to the citizens of fabletown). At the end of the episode
WOW lot of writing thanking for reading...I guess (again this probably won't happen but keep an open mind)
EDIT: If people take lots of intrest in this I will start a new discussion and expand to episode 4 and 5 and talk more choice and consequence
Their was also a model of Cinderella floating around.
just to set things straight if you do the model editing or just looking in the file for episode two there is a thing called "glamoured toad"
Well, you've gained my interest with your predictions of how the season will play out! I don't think that people would approve Bluebeard being appointed sheriff though. Then again, it would make for an interesting scenario. Something that Bigby would redeem his sheriff status with, maybe?
No I agree I think Bigby could choose between two fables to be the temporal sheriff (Bluebeard and someone else)
Made a new discussion : http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/77787/expanding-from-another-discussion-season-2?new=1
What I don't get is how something as big as the Brannigan plot could slip by Bill Willingham during initial story development. He was supposedly pretty involved in the big beats of the story and the season arc so I don't get how something like this could've happen.
He was probably very involved with the first episode that apparently went very well, no issues from him, but when the second episode and that plot line came along, he slammed the breaks. I think if he knew that was the direction they were considering, he would have said something.
Eh i prefer what we got
We'll never know if the original plot was better, but I can say one thing for sure, the major rewrites definitely affected the development and polish of the game. Episode 2 especially was rough around the edges and lacked the polish of Episode 1. Things got back together in Episode 3 which was good. I imagine some of the other sub-plots underwent some changes during the rewrites, but I can't say for sure. If they had to rewrite an entire plot line then I can only imagine how that can affect everything else.
But if he was involved with the season arc, don't you think he would have known about the Brannigan plot? Or did he just not realized it until somebody else pointed it out to him after EP 1 had come out? I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around this.
There was going to be a threat capable of wiping out Fabletown, but the author didn't like that.
I agree. The main series' atmosphere felt weak after the change, And that was one of the many reasons why I liked the original plot.
Well, it's no big news, but this proofs that the ep.1 was totally rewritten after the TWD success. More info on GDC vault (the video in not available for free, but the slides are and are pretty self-explaining):
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1020918/Unleashing-The-Wolf-Adapting-Fables
hmmm maybe that's why they're "keeping an eye on her" winkwink
Oh yeah, thats been known for awhile. Telltale changed their original FABLES puzzle game or whatever to the Wolf Among Us, a much more darker game with choice/consequence gameplay similar to the Walking Dead. I figure this thread is more about the rewrite that took place during the season itself.
I'm pretty sure the game would've been dark anyways. Even before Walking Dead, Telltale had experience with dark games like Jurassic Park and Law and Order. Obviously, those weren't as dark as Walking Dead, but they weren't exactly sunshine and rainbows either.
Oh yeah, I'm not saying it wouldn't be dark. It just probably wouldn't have been as dark as the Wolf Among Us ended up being.