S3 is my last hope for quality in the Walking Dead franchise *Minor Spoilers*
The comics slowly became more and more boring after Rick's group left the prison. Around issue 100ish, I pretty much lost interest in it completely. The TV series was good up until the end of season 2, after that everything felt really drawn out and slow paced. The only reason I watched s3 and s4 of the show was because watching it in the living room every Sunday became a sort of family tradition.
Then there are the games. Or rather the game and the abomination called 'Survival Instinct'. I will not be talking about the latter much, mostly because it is just a subpar fps zombie game made for quick cash, really not worth talking about. But then there is the TT game series. This series is a gem stuck in a massive pile of ...... mediocrity that is The Walking Dead Franchise. We already know what makes this game so special: the character development, interactions with other survivors, and focus on story over pulse pounding zombie slaughtering. (Note: zombie slaughtering can be fun if done right, it's just that the TT game series is a nice change of pace).
Unfortunately, some on the forums have noticed that S2 of the TT series has been showing some problems. While S1 had problems too, of course, the problems in S2 are more glaringly obvious and take away from the game more than in season 2. If you want an in depth view of S2's problems, I urge you to take a look at the 'Where Season 2 Went Wrong' thread. Here is a short list of problems in S2 that forum members have brought up:
1)Shorter episodes
2)Illusion of choice is weaker than before
3)Characters get killed off before they are fully developed (Nick/Sarah)
4)Characters make 180s in personality (Rebecca) *Characters react very little to other characters deaths and to decisions you make
5)Clementine's strength (kicking down a door, lifting her own weight, but not able to lift a water keg) 6)The group's over reliance on Clem even though she is only 11 years old
7)Disjointed episodes and episode themes.
I more or less agree with all of the points I listed. Despite all these problems, I have enjoyed this season well enough. However, I am now worried about this game's future because of the state of S2. Because of this season, I will not rush off and buy the season pass like I did this time. I still have hope for this series though, I have a hope that S2 is just a slump in the series, and that Telltale will learn from their mistakes and make an excellent S3. But if S3 ends up having the same mistakes as S2 I will just give up on the entire Walking Dead franchise. For the love of Juice-Box, please learn from your mistakes Telltale and make a great S3.
TL;DR: The Telltale Walking Dead series is my last hope for The Walking Dead franchise, if Telltale messes up S3 like S2, I will lose hope for the franchise.
Sorry for any grammatical and/or formatting mistakes, I did this on my phone and I will fix them soon.
Please note that this is my opinion on the game and the franchise. Not cold, hard facts. Post your own view if you like.
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Season 2 wasnt THAT bad it wasnt as good as Season 1 but i thought it was amazing.
I enjoyed S2 as well, but there is room for improvement, don't you agree?
No it's not the last hope.
A " Season 2 is worse than Season 1 and Telltale's writers are stupid " thread? Haven't seen that one before!
I never called Telltale's writers stupid, I just listed mistakes they have made. You would have known this if you actually read what I wrote instead of jumping to conclusions.
The TV show is a shit in season 3, however in season 4 it gets kind of better.
Did you even read the OP? Or are you so blinded by TT's dick in you face that you couldn't see it? Maybe instead of spewing the same senseless crap in every thread criticizing the game (ooh, irony) maybe you could contribute to the thread in a constructive way?
Well excuse me for not reading everything you wrote. But it's quite understandable, after seeing this kind of thread for the 1000 time now.
I liked Season 4 of the show more than Season 3 as well. I found the concept of just a regular sickness becoming a danger to the group as opposed to walkers interesting. It still ended up becoming boring tho.
Fuck these apologist assholes. They are the one's primarily responsible for the mess that this season has grown into.
OP to be it nicely this season has been pretty disappointing...to put it blunt its been a complete bag of shit.
Problems were noticed early on with many people complaining after playing the first episode. Yet people kept holding on for hope saying "Yeah it hasn't been that great, but Telltale probably has something really cool and smart planned out for us later!".
Then episode 2 came out and then 3 and now recently 4. And there is literally no time left to fix or rectify any of the mistakes that have been made so far. Telltale has literally listened to none of the feedback fans have been giving them.
I think people largely wanted to give Telltale the benefit of the doubt, but right now its pretty obvious to almost everybody that this whole season has been been streamlined and phoned in to death. When comparing Season 2 to Season 1, this season just has the words "CASH GRAB" written all over it.
Or maybe, people like you and the OP should consider stopping to create more of this kind of threads, since there obviously already are about 1000 similar threads like this.
Yes, I made points that have been brought up before, but I also added other things to the post as well, like, how the series compares to other walking dead media.
The only problem I have with season 4 is the episode that only has Beth and Daryl. DEAR GOD THAT EPISODE WAS BORING.
I never said that Telltale will 'probably have something really cool and smart planned out for us later' I said I hope that they can learn from their mistakes and make S3 better. Hoping is a lot different than thinking something will actually happen.
It's fine if you don't want to read it all, just don't insult what I have to say without bothering to read everything.
All hope is lost for the franchise? People used to say this when they were making Star Wars prequels (which were terrible aside from the 3rd one which was quite decent) and look at Star Wars now. Episodes 7, 8 and 9 are being made, new spin-off trilogy is also in plans (by the way, the screenwriter for this spin-off trilogy will be no one other than our very own Gary Whitta) and I can guarantee those new films will break records in theatres.
And it's your opinion that comic book went downhill after prison storyline. Yes, lately the whole All-Out War thing was quite dull (and terrible anti-climactic ending to this), but I really like Alexandria story arc overall. The show is way worse than the game and the comics but it's not terrible. I still watch it, though I'm not as hyped for every episode as I'm for a game. I hope that once they arrive at Alexandria in the show they will go back on track with the comics a little bit more.
And the game is awesome of course, Season 1 blew my mind, season 2 is really quite good. But I wouldn't say that game blows the comic book away. I think they're pretty on-par. Yeah, comic book had its weaker moments, but so did the game.
I'll agree with you however on that horrible, horrible Activision game. That was just plain awful, I'm really happy I didn't spend my money on this, because it was one of the worst games I've ever played (and it's not exaggeration).
So the only problem you have with Season 4, is the episode were Daryl and Beth finally get some character development?
I guess you prefer Daryl being the " Badass crossbow guy " without any development what so ever.
I didn't insult you at all. I just said that creating a thread that already exist (about 100 times) is pointless.
What I meant by 'all hope is lost' is that if S3 fails I will lose interest in the franchise. I didn't mean to make it sound like the entire franchise would be shit or anything like that. Also thank you for respectfully disagreeing with me.
Because character development, if done right, should also be pushing the story even just a little bit forward. But no, instead we get an episode when the main plot point is Beth wanting to drink. Really? A whole episode about that? Main storyline doesn't progress even a little bit. Instead we watch Daryl who is a good character (though I hate how writers make him some kind of a superman) and Beth who is the worst character in TWD. In addition to that Emily Kinney's acting doesn't exist. She just can't act for shit. She can screw up every scene she's in. And good acting is especially necesarry in character-driven episodes. This was literally the worst episode of the whole series.
Personally, I disagree with this 110%. I still enjoy the comics, and The Walking Dead television show is actually my favorite show on T.V. If anything, I'm pretty sure the TellTale Game (While yes, I do love it) will be the first of the three (Game, Show, Comic) to end. Definitely not the last hope for the entire Walking Dead series.
You sir, are a bellend.
I'm a bellend for posting an opinion?
No, it's just your opinion is old and tired. You couldn't have wrote your essay and posted it in another 10000 of the threads speaking the same shit?
Yes, people have made points like mine before. But by comparing it it to other forms of Walking Dead media, I felt like I gave this enough to warrant its own thread. Maybe I shouldn't have made it into its own thread, but it's to late to change that now I suppose.
don't get your hopes up.
I wish I wouldn't, but I'm just a hopeful kind of guy.
Question, How is TTGs TWD s3 the last hope for TWD franchise if the TV show is the most popular form of TWD media and is still gaining popularity after picking up steam in season 4?
As crazy as it sounds there are a ton of TWD fans that watch the tv show but have not even touched the video game or the comic. And its not really fair to compare a comic to the other forms of walking dead media. You can do a lot more in a scene of a show or video game than in a comic panel.
Also TWD comic is still one of the top selling graphic novels. Its pretty hard for any other new comic to stand up to it. Its not going to hit the gutter for a while now.
Your post is just plain ridiculous.
The way my post was worded was off, It looked like I was trying to state my opinions as facts , which was not my intention at all. And when I said 'last' hope, I meant last hope for quality in the franchise, not commercial success. I have edited my post so it looks less like I'm trying to force my opinion down people's throats.
No, because it was just... boring. I honestly loved having some character development with Sasha and everyone else but I just thought this episode was boring :P
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It sucks that Clementine is stuck in such a shitty underdeveloped zombie universe. THANK YOU ROBERT KIRKMAN.
Seriously they should have made it "Telltale's Zombie Game" instead of "The Walking Dead" that way Telltale could do whatever the hell they want without pissing off Kirkman.
Somebody told me that more time skips in the game could be problematic, because then the game time line would be out of sync of the comic timeline. This annoys me because time skips could be useful for the game's storyline. I definitely agree with you on the comic limiting the game's potential.
You know what are good examples of shitty apologists?
Offering an argument in defense for something that's considered controversial is what makes you an apologist.
This is a video game company where the closest thing they could've possibly had to controversy was the dog scene. If you don't like the game or the company who made it, that's your problem. And I'm not trying to be an apologetic asshole. That's just how it works. If you by a product that doesn't meet your standards, then it is your fault for doing it in the first place.
And about Telltale Games not listening to you?
It's one thing to make rational suggestions on how people can improve future products; it's another to call it a bag of shit cash grab and make no points regarding any improvements.
I enjoy the show and the episodic game. Dislike the comics and that other FPS bull shit looks foul.
The forum is starting to seem deppresed because threads like these. (No offense)
The game needs threads like these
But is 100 threads that say the same thing is that necessary?
Yeah it shows how big the issue is.
No.