Exactly. After Carlos was killed in front of Sarah. I realized she needs someone to be there to help guide her. I wanted to, then she died a… morend I said to myself "well, she was my ticket to contribute some good and 'pay it forward'. But fuck it, now I'm on my own, completely."
I will not allow ANYBODY to hold Clementine back from her own survival. I no longer am concerned with petty personal salvation or awaking inner beauty, I just want to live. The hell with the rest.
Without morality, there is nothing but fear. Carver was fearful. Yes, Bill Carver was fearful. He feared weakness and feared the potential of dying off. Survival is driven by fear. Every day you fear for your own life.
Not me. No longer will I fear for myself. I won't let fear drive me. I will help people, even if it kills me, because the world can punish the good doers, but that just makes me a martyr. I won't fear death.
I would rather have joy and love for my short existence, than become a cold survivalist machine, fighting for nothing but waking up to fight the next day. I would treasure the moments I had.
How the fuck are you going too take care of a baby if you couldn't take care and save Sarah ... I'm not saying I wouldn't try my best , I'm … morejust saying at the end of the day it's not gonna end good and its not allways going too end like a fantasy fairytale bringing a newborn baby too the gates on Wellington and living happy ever after
Of course we'd all save anybody in our group and we give 100 percent into looking out protecting and saving group members I'm just saying I'… mored help and save anybody but if it was a save group member but sacrifice yourself choice I'd allways save myself ... Jane could of saved Sarah only if Jane didn't abandon saving Sarah she would of saved Sarah in time but she would of gotton bitten saving Sarah ... the same way Jane won't sacrifice herself too save Sarah I wouldn't sacrifice myself too save anybody
Without morality, there is nothing but fear. Carver was fearful. Yes, Bill Carver was fearful. He feared weakness and feared the potentia… morel of dying off. Survival is driven by fear. Every day you fear for your own life.
Not me. No longer will I fear for myself. I won't let fear drive me. I will help people, even if it kills me, because the world can punish the good doers, but that just makes me a martyr. I won't fear death.
I REALLYY don't want to see Clem become evil. After seeing that episode 5 trailer with the whole younger Clem part again, that would just kill me. Tear jerker that would be. qq
Didn't you say you were leaving like a month ago, and you left a thread in the Telltale Talk section saying you were leaving?... Anyway glad your still here.
I was leaving, But After i had a chat with my best pal on the forums here, LupineNoir, He convinced me to stay for a while and see if the things I had been complaining about change. And it did change a little bit around here. Thank You for remembering me, Though.
Didn't you say you were leaving like a month ago, and you left a thread in the Telltale Talk section saying you were leaving?... Anyway glad your still here.
Man, Preach it. That is why I will never follow Jane, Why I would never follow Carver, And I will stop at nothing to protect my group. Jane was cool but she can seriously fuck off. Humanity is important. Clementine was a beacon of hope in season 1 and #MyClementine will remain that way
Without morality, there is nothing but fear. Carver was fearful. Yes, Bill Carver was fearful. He feared weakness and feared the potentia… morel of dying off. Survival is driven by fear. Every day you fear for your own life.
Not me. No longer will I fear for myself. I won't let fear drive me. I will help people, even if it kills me, because the world can punish the good doers, but that just makes me a martyr. I won't fear death.
I was leaving, But After i had a chat with my best pal on the forums here, LupineNoir, He convinced me to stay for a while and see if the th… moreings I had been complaining about change. And it did change a little bit around here. Thank You for remembering me, Though.
You either die like a hero or live long enough to see yourself becoming a villain. I choose the first option. My Clementine will prove herself as a good person, even if it will cost her life.
You'll be no better than Ben when he ditched Clementine! Do you remember how you felt when he did that, at that moment? Sure you may have forgiven him later, but I was ready to freaking kill that guy. xD
Lol I've only been here for a couple days. I think I saw you arguing when I was still a "lurker" and I don't think I agreed with you but I really respected your posts because they were to put it short really good.
Carver was weak. He broke and underestimated the 'weak', only to end up being killed by them. Which just goes to show that Social Darwinism is a philosophy that is best applied to those who believe in it.
Without morality, there is nothing but fear. Carver was fearful. Yes, Bill Carver was fearful. He feared weakness and feared the potentia… morel of dying off. Survival is driven by fear. Every day you fear for your own life.
Not me. No longer will I fear for myself. I won't let fear drive me. I will help people, even if it kills me, because the world can punish the good doers, but that just makes me a martyr. I won't fear death.
You'll be no better than Ben when he ditched Clementine! Do you remember how you felt when he did that, at that moment? Sure you may have forgiven him later, but I was ready to freaking kill that guy. xD
Yeah, Telltale worked overtime to make Ben unbelievably stupid in that episode. Nevertheless I could forgive him because he panicked rather than deliberately choose to let Clem die because she was more vulnerable than him. Fear is something that can be overcome. Having a cold heart is much harder to cure.
I agree. Thats why I forgave him. He did a stupid thing because he was scared and he did own up to it later. Its worse to walk away from a baby, while you listen to it cry, knowing its going to die a terrible death. If I had to do that, seriously, I couldnt live with myself.
Yeah, Telltale worked overtime to make Ben unbelievably stupid in that episode. Nevertheless I could forgive him because he panicked rather… more than deliberately choose to let Clem die because she was more vulnerable than him. Fear is something that can be overcome. Having a cold heart is much harder to cure.
To be honest, i really can't contrive a scenario where it really is "practical" to leave a baby behind. Even considering the idea of infanticide is repulsive to me.
Put it this way - if Clementine dies, then the baby dies too. There's no logical way for her to die in a way that allows the baby to survive.
I agree. Thats why I forgave him. He did a stupid thing because he was scared and he did own up to it later. Its worse to walk away from a b… moreaby, while you listen to it cry, knowing its going to die a terrible death. If I had to do that, seriously, I couldnt live with myself.
Yeah, I was watching this documentary about a week ago about these countries with a high male preference killing their baby girls because they would rather have boys for whatever reason, dowrys and things like that. That sickened me as much as the thought of this does. I don't think Clem is going to die period, but I suppose it is an interesting moral discussion. It happened a lot watching the show. Afterward, fans would argue back and forth about whether the groups decisions were right and what they would do. I think sparking discussion is a good thing.
To be honest, i really can't contrive a scenario where it really is "practical" to leave a baby behind. Even considering the idea of infant… moreicide is repulsive to me.
Put it this way - if Clementine dies, then the baby dies too. There's no logical way for her to die in a way that allows the baby to survive.
"Jane says you don't owe these people anything" and you can respond with "I owe these people everything" and thats how I been playing her. In my eyes being alone sounds just as bad as dying. Then again everyone you care about dies so its like you're ending up alone anyway. As for the part about "idiots having babies in the zombie apocolypse.... Whats the point of survival if there's nothing to live for? Bringing new life when everyone is dying is the most important time to do it.
Thank you. You're a great member despite being active for such a short time because you maintain respect to valid thoughts, That's the most important rule on the forums guidlines.
You're a good one too.
Lol I've only been here for a couple days. I think I saw you arguing when I was still a "lurker" and I don't think I agreed with you but I really respected your posts because they were to put it short really good.
Yeah, I was watching this documentary about a week ago about these countries with a high male preference killing their baby girls because th… moreey would rather have boys for whatever reason, dowrys and things like that. That sickened me as much as the thought of this does. I don't think Clem is going to die period, but I suppose it is an interesting moral discussion. It happened a lot watching the show. Afterward, fans would argue back and forth about whether the groups decisions were right and what they would do. I think sparking discussion is a good thing.
Yeah bringing new life and then dying leaving the responsibility of your kid too somebody else that's real inspiring .... having a kid and knowing ull be able too protect it is one thing , but having a kid dying an leaving your responsibility too Clementine and a bunch of people who can't even take care of themselves ... real smart , I think it's a good idea too get pregnant after the zombie apocalypse
"Jane says you don't owe these people anything" and you can respond with "I owe these people everything" and thats how I been playing her.… more In my eyes being alone sounds just as bad as dying. Then again everyone you care about dies so its like you're ending up alone anyway. As for the part about "idiots having babies in the zombie apocolypse.... Whats the point of survival if there's nothing to live for? Bringing new life when everyone is dying is the most important time to do it.
Yeah thats exactly how Alvin and Rebecca planned for it. Hey lets Die and drop our baby on an 11 year old. WTF? Whats the alternative? Avoiding sex and letting the human race die out? You do realize the only way we would survive something like this is to reproduce right?
Yeah bringing new life and then dying leaving the responsibility of your kid too somebody else that's real inspiring .... having a kid and … moreknowing ull be able too protect it is one thing , but having a kid dying an leaving your responsibility too Clementine and a bunch of people who can't even take care of themselves ... real smart , I think it's a good idea too get pregnant after the zombie apocalypse
Without morality, there is nothing but fear. Carver was fearful. Yes, Bill Carver was fearful. He feared weakness and feared the potentia… morel of dying off. Survival is driven by fear. Every day you fear for your own life.
Not me. No longer will I fear for myself. I won't let fear drive me. I will help people, even if it kills me, because the world can punish the good doers, but that just makes me a martyr. I won't fear death.
Without morality, there is nothing but fear. Carver was fearful. Yes, Bill Carver was fearful. He feared weakness and feared the potentia… morel of dying off. Survival is driven by fear. Every day you fear for your own life.
Not me. No longer will I fear for myself. I won't let fear drive me. I will help people, even if it kills me, because the world can punish the good doers, but that just makes me a martyr. I won't fear death.
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Everyone's ClemInTime you deserve a medal for that statement
Kenny and Omid care, not sure about Luke. I'm still leaving because Kenny is turning nuts.
Baby would of been better off at Carvers camp
Without morality, there is nothing but fear. Carver was fearful. Yes, Bill Carver was fearful. He feared weakness and feared the potential of dying off. Survival is driven by fear. Every day you fear for your own life.
Not me. No longer will I fear for myself. I won't let fear drive me. I will help people, even if it kills me, because the world can punish the good doers, but that just makes me a martyr. I won't fear death.
I would rather have joy and love for my short existence, than become a cold survivalist machine, fighting for nothing but waking up to fight the next day. I would treasure the moments I had.
Sarah most likely broke her legs and was in shock. My Clementine would have jumped down there and dragged her up, even if it meant being in danger.
Take my upvote good sir, for that was well spoken and amazing.
Thanks. You're amazing too.
Sorry, but I got morals pal. Morals all the way.
I REALLYY don't want to see Clem become evil. After seeing that episode 5 trailer with the whole younger Clem part again, that would just kill me. Tear jerker that would be. qq
Didn't you say you were leaving like a month ago, and you left a thread in the Telltale Talk section saying you were leaving?... Anyway glad your still here.
I was leaving, But After i had a chat with my best pal on the forums here, LupineNoir, He convinced me to stay for a while and see if the things I had been complaining about change. And it did change a little bit around here. Thank You for remembering me, Though.
Man, Preach it. That is why I will never follow Jane, Why I would never follow Carver, And I will stop at nothing to protect my group. Jane was cool but she can seriously fuck off. Humanity is important. Clementine was a beacon of hope in season 1 and #MyClementine will remain that way
Your welcome man, hope you stick around, your a good user. Hopefully you decide to stick around
Thank you, You're a good one too.
I was wondering, Did we ever chat or debate about something before, Or you just saw me arguing on the forums before?
Whew, no offense but I don't think I would want to be in your group in the zombie apocalypse. xD
Whatever lee says goes.
I think the same.
whatcha talkin' bout??? we lose Lee anyways.
I would rather die trying to keep someone else safe. Especially a baby. Personally, I can't leave a baby.
You'll be no better than Ben when he ditched Clementine! Do you remember how you felt when he did that, at that moment? Sure you may have forgiven him later, but I was ready to freaking kill that guy. xD
Beautiful.
Lol I've only been here for a couple days. I think I saw you arguing when I was still a "lurker" and I don't think I agreed with you but I really respected your posts because they were to put it short really good.
The sequence of events that led to Lee's death started with taking that food out of the station wagon.
if we don't take it, Kenny takes it, causing Lee's death
Carver was weak. He broke and underestimated the 'weak', only to end up being killed by them. Which just goes to show that Social Darwinism is a philosophy that is best applied to those who believe in it.
I think thats an apt comparison. People were lambasting Ben over that. I was pretty mad at him myself at the time too.
Yeah, Telltale worked overtime to make Ben unbelievably stupid in that episode. Nevertheless I could forgive him because he panicked rather than deliberately choose to let Clem die because she was more vulnerable than him. Fear is something that can be overcome. Having a cold heart is much harder to cure.
I agree. Thats why I forgave him. He did a stupid thing because he was scared and he did own up to it later. Its worse to walk away from a baby, while you listen to it cry, knowing its going to die a terrible death. If I had to do that, seriously, I couldnt live with myself.
To be honest, i really can't contrive a scenario where it really is "practical" to leave a baby behind. Even considering the idea of infanticide is repulsive to me.
Put it this way - if Clementine dies, then the baby dies too. There's no logical way for her to die in a way that allows the baby to survive.
Being alone and being in a group are both equal in terms of difficulty for survival.
Yeah, I was watching this documentary about a week ago about these countries with a high male preference killing their baby girls because they would rather have boys for whatever reason, dowrys and things like that. That sickened me as much as the thought of this does. I don't think Clem is going to die period, but I suppose it is an interesting moral discussion. It happened a lot watching the show. Afterward, fans would argue back and forth about whether the groups decisions were right and what they would do. I think sparking discussion is a good thing.
"Jane says you don't owe these people anything" and you can respond with "I owe these people everything" and thats how I been playing her. In my eyes being alone sounds just as bad as dying. Then again everyone you care about dies so its like you're ending up alone anyway. As for the part about "idiots having babies in the zombie apocolypse.... Whats the point of survival if there's nothing to live for? Bringing new life when everyone is dying is the most important time to do it.
Thank you. You're a great member despite being active for such a short time because you maintain respect to valid thoughts, That's the most important rule on the forums guidlines.
The Spartans were outright savages and made a habit of leaving 'weak' children to die in the wilderness.
Yeah bringing new life and then dying leaving the responsibility of your kid too somebody else that's real inspiring .... having a kid and knowing ull be able too protect it is one thing , but having a kid dying an leaving your responsibility too Clementine and a bunch of people who can't even take care of themselves ... real smart , I think it's a good idea too get pregnant after the zombie apocalypse
Yeah thats exactly how Alvin and Rebecca planned for it. Hey lets Die and drop our baby on an 11 year old. WTF? Whats the alternative? Avoiding sex and letting the human race die out? You do realize the only way we would survive something like this is to reproduce right?
If they didn't take from the station wagon everybody would have starved to death, it had to be done.
#MartyrsInTheMaking
Isn't that just a fancy way of saying you fear living in fear?