Arvo? Saw Clem kill his sister. Probably didn't think she reanimated. Kenny does racist remarks, he can barely speak, is shown little to no sympathy from the group outside of Mike, and is beaten constantly by Kenny.
Mike? Take a look at how he fucking deals with racism. He's afraid of giving Rebecca a confederate coat because of the racist undertones. Seeing Kenny beat some teenage kid up who didn't even shoot at them, and lead them to shelter after they killed his entire group of people with little-to-no causalities? Plus add onto the fact Kenny was probably going to explode (That's why Jane did what she did as stupid as it was.) and you've got reason to go. Add the racism Kenny distributes to Arvo and you can make someone like Mike mad.
Bonnie? Leland and Luke...maybe Carver. All these people made promises. She has a morality even if she's very flexible in it. She's willing to believe in the best in people, to believe in promises. Maybe a promise to Leland or Dee was all that kept her from turning back into a junkie. And time and time again they let her down. She probably even romantically liked Luke, and the whole sex thing was a straw breaking a camel's back. Luke apologies to Bonnie when you put pressure on his leg, Bonnie admits she likes Luke after imbibing some Rum, she even asks Clem if Luke talked about her at all. Luke might've had a chance to fix it, maybe she was hoping on it. But he died. And she decided to make her move.
Who knows what their plan was. Taking all the supplies was a shitty move if that was all their supplies. (It was two bags. Who knows what they put inside. But let's just assume it was everything.) And honestly? They were probably just going to move on. They could've killed Kenny or used their numbers, or held the baby hostage. But outside of Arvo's shitty trigger finger? I think their reasons are fucking justifiable. And I'm so tired of everyone demonizing anyone against you in TWD. Justifiable reasons to do what they did, even if what did they was contributing to the shitty circumstances.
Still don't see how Kenny was such a racist to Arvo, both were white. Just because he mocks him for not speaking English and being Russian doesn't make you a racist, because being "Russian" isn't a race. Russia is filled with all kinds of races, and Arvo happened to be the same one as Kenny.
Arvo? Saw Clem kill his sister. Probably didn't think she reanimated. Kenny does racist remarks, he can barely speak, is shown little to no … moresympathy from the group outside of Mike, and is beaten constantly by Kenny.
Mike? Take a look at how he fucking deals with racism. He's afraid of giving Rebecca a confederate coat because of the racist undertones. Seeing Kenny beat some teenage kid up who didn't even shoot at them, and lead them to shelter after they killed his entire group of people with little-to-no causalities? Plus add onto the fact Kenny was probably going to explode (That's why Jane did what she did as stupid as it was.) and you've got reason to go. Add the racism Kenny distributes to Arvo and you can make someone like Mike mad.
Bonnie? Leland and Luke...maybe Carver. All these people made promises. She has a morality even if she's very flexible in it. She's willing to believe in the best in people, to believe in promises. May… [view original content]
Except when the racist is the guy with the gun, then you shut your mouth and do whatever he says or you're dead.
Goes both ways, especially in Kenny's situation since he had the power.
You would if you got beaten within an inch of your life. or if someone left you for dead or tried to kill you because of your skin color or nationality.
Except when the racist is the guy with the gun, then you shut your mouth and do whatever he says or you're dead.
Goes both ways, especially in Kenny's situation since he had the power.
I have to point out that the way Kenny treated Arvo was extremely racist, since he called him a "commie rat" and let's not forget the "urban" joke from season 1.
You know wich 1 was funny
Arvo: ( Speaking Russian)
Kenny: Say it in American asshole
Arvo: Its okay, ice, walk!
Kenny: Yeah that is the fucking problem, ice!
You shouldn't have to get used to it though. Russia's a country that's been through hell in the past and done more for the West than people give it credit for (I'd say you guys are the reason the Germans surrendered after Hitler died). But if it doesn't bother you, then I'm glad, but I do hope things get better for you guys soon, because if there's one part of me that is Aussie, it's my view on racism.
I strangely agreed with Kenny all the way in this episode ( never been to close to him ) if i have been given the option to shoot him after the shootout i would've picked it instantly.
I strangely agreed with Kenny all the way in this episode ( never been to close to him ) if i have been given the option to shoot him after the shootout i would've picked it instantly.
You shouldn't have to get used to it though. Russia's a country that's been through hell in the past and done more for the West than people … moregive it credit for (I'd say you guys are the reason the Germans surrendered after Hitler died). But if it doesn't bother you, then I'm glad, but I do hope things get better for you guys soon, because if there's one part of me that is Aussie, it's my view on racism.
Lol, Mr "no speak a English".
But yeah, one of my favourite lines of the episode that I've noticed not many people are bringing up is whe… moren Kenny yells; "English motherfucker!" during his gunfight with what's-his-name. Thought it was brilliantly delivered.
Yeah, it bothers me how this game had the chance to make Russians more sympathetic yet ultimately stuck to the American cliche of making them a bunch of untrustworthy weasels.
Dat ruskie Arvo just shouting our Clementine for da lolz.....
Mike was cool but trying to be a Lee to Arvo.....
And Bonnie meh hated her since 400 days blaming me for not saving her secret crush Luke...
He was only "right" about Arvo in that his constant abuse of him made Arvo snap. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy brought about by his inability to think logically, listen to other people, empathize with strangers, or even just realize that violence doesn't solve anything.
Kenny doesn't have the ability to predict the future, so all the horrible stuff he does to Arvo is purely because he is a rage-filled psychotic rather than because he "knew" anything about a stranger.
I now Kenny is a typical country bumpkin racist (to a certain extent- I mean, clearly he likes Clem,a black girl), but in this instance, he … morewas right about Arvo(not the language thing but about how untrustworthy he was) It angers me that there isn't much more you can do about it as Clem other than get shot.
I have to point out that the way Kenny treated Arvo was extremely racist, since he called him a "commie rat" and let's not forget the "urban" joke from season 1.
I now Kenny is a typical country bumpkin racist (to a certain extent- I mean, clearly he likes Clem,a black girl), but in this instance, he … morewas right about Arvo(not the language thing but about how untrustworthy he was) It angers me that there isn't much more you can do about it as Clem other than get shot.
You damn well would if some asshole was continuously harping on it and basically using it as a reason to mark you as the odd man out of the … moregroup and then beating you up because of it. Granted, Kenny didn't beat up Arvo because of his ethnicity, but he did provoke him with a bigoted remark, and then beat him up because of his justified harsh reply.
I'm not going to make any assumptions, but I really hope you're part of a minority group with a history of suffering racism. Not because it would make your comment any more okay, but because it'd be the height of idiocy to say you wouldn't care about racism when it has never truly affected you. As a Hispanic living in Texas where we have endured horrific racism in years past and sometimes in modern day times, you better believe I would be PISSED at some useless fuckup who decided that the end of the world is a good time to bring about useless and unimportant differences based on what blood runs through my veins, and use them as reasons to degrade me as a human being.
I'm with you, man. I (and for extension, Clem XD) wanted to shot him right after the shootout. He and his group are obviously the worst kind of survivor's group, the bandits one. They all deserve to die, specially that motherfucker, who's the "innocent kid who plays the help me role" while the rest prepare the ambush. I hope he died, but if I have the chance, I'll break his knees and elbows, and left him to rot.
Mike and Bonnie... I just take all they carry. They're just poor weak bastards that will be killed sooner or later. I don't want them to drag out me with them. Also, they don't deserve a bullet. Ammo is expensive, you know...
I noticed right away that she was only trying to prove a point, when she says something like this: "You'll see who he really is". Then, when it came to the Kenny/Jane decision I didn't do anything because I didn't really think that he was going to kill her and I was also pissed at her cause, if she was showing me how crazy he was, she shouldn't have cut his FUCKING BELLY! She dies, and then I didn't even read the options when it showed [Shoot Kenny]. Funny thing, the only time where I did the exact same thing was when we find Kenny again and I chose immediatly without reading the other options [Hug Kenny]. Sad
Well, Russian villains always made me laugh, mostly because they were so stereotypical. But when I saw these Russians in TWD, I didn't know if I should still laugh or scream internally.
Yeah, it bothers me how this game had the chance to make Russians more sympathetic yet ultimately stuck to the American cliche of making them a bunch of untrustworthy weasels.
I expect this nonsense from Call of Duty.
How is that Bonnie's fault? Luke falling and drowning was Not her fault. Also if you went to save Luke, Bonnie is A complete sweetheart to you even to the point when she leaves. She freaks out when you get shot.
In my book, Mike and Arvo are cool, but fuck Bonnie, Mike wanted to talk to me and be nice, he even dropped the bag and was going to only ta… moreke one with them, then once I was shot Mike ran over and wanted to help but that bitch Bonnie tried to leave me, not to mention Bonnie blamed me for Lukes death when it was her own fault, It was a good idea to give Luke more time and for him to do it on his own but here comes Bonnie the dumbass who thinks its a good idea to go out herself, what a fucking idiot. The reason I'm fine with Arvo is because he was so abused by Kenny both physically and verbally, they also tied him to a post in the cold at night, no fucking wonder he wanted to get away, I understand why he wanted to shoot me, he thought his sister was alive and that I just killed her for no reason, I still think it was bad of him to shoot me but if I was in his position, constantly being abused untill the point where they don't need me anymore so they just leave me to freeze to death, I would shoot a kid too just to escape.
In my book, Mike and Arvo are cool, but fuck Bonnie, Mike wanted to talk to me and be nice, he even dropped the bag and was going to only take one with them, then once I was shot Mike ran over and wanted to help but that bitch Bonnie tried to leave me, not to mention Bonnie blamed me for Lukes death when it was her own fault, It was a good idea to give Luke more time and for him to do it on his own but here comes Bonnie the dumbass who thinks its a good idea to go out herself, what a fucking idiot. The reason I'm fine with Arvo is because he was so abused by Kenny both physically and verbally, they also tied him to a post in the cold at night, no fucking wonder he wanted to get away, I understand why he wanted to shoot me, he thought his sister was alive and that I just killed her for no reason, I still think it was bad of him to shoot me but if I was in his position, constantly being abused untill the point where they don't need me anymore so they just leave me to freeze to death, I would shoot a kid too just to escape.
Well the fact that shes retarded enough to think that the ice that's already broken will support a grown woman makes it her fault, like if the ice was enough to make Luke fall in then it should be a fucking no brainier that throwing a grown woman over there as well will only make it worse. Luke just needed more time but that dumbass wouldn't give him anymore and then she blames me, I did the smart thing by not putting any more weight on and actually giving him a chance, putting another person over there guaranteed death.
How is that Bonnie's fault? Luke falling and drowning was Not her fault. Also if you went to save Luke, Bonnie is A complete sweetheart to you even to the point when she leaves. She freaks out when you get shot.
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Arvo? Saw Clem kill his sister. Probably didn't think she reanimated. Kenny does racist remarks, he can barely speak, is shown little to no sympathy from the group outside of Mike, and is beaten constantly by Kenny.
Mike? Take a look at how he fucking deals with racism. He's afraid of giving Rebecca a confederate coat because of the racist undertones. Seeing Kenny beat some teenage kid up who didn't even shoot at them, and lead them to shelter after they killed his entire group of people with little-to-no causalities? Plus add onto the fact Kenny was probably going to explode (That's why Jane did what she did as stupid as it was.) and you've got reason to go. Add the racism Kenny distributes to Arvo and you can make someone like Mike mad.
Bonnie? Leland and Luke...maybe Carver. All these people made promises. She has a morality even if she's very flexible in it. She's willing to believe in the best in people, to believe in promises. Maybe a promise to Leland or Dee was all that kept her from turning back into a junkie. And time and time again they let her down. She probably even romantically liked Luke, and the whole sex thing was a straw breaking a camel's back. Luke apologies to Bonnie when you put pressure on his leg, Bonnie admits she likes Luke after imbibing some Rum, she even asks Clem if Luke talked about her at all. Luke might've had a chance to fix it, maybe she was hoping on it. But he died. And she decided to make her move.
Who knows what their plan was. Taking all the supplies was a shitty move if that was all their supplies. (It was two bags. Who knows what they put inside. But let's just assume it was everything.) And honestly? They were probably just going to move on. They could've killed Kenny or used their numbers, or held the baby hostage. But outside of Arvo's shitty trigger finger? I think their reasons are fucking justifiable. And I'm so tired of everyone demonizing anyone against you in TWD. Justifiable reasons to do what they did, even if what did they was contributing to the shitty circumstances.
Still don't see how Kenny was such a racist to Arvo, both were white. Just because he mocks him for not speaking English and being Russian doesn't make you a racist, because being "Russian" isn't a race. Russia is filled with all kinds of races, and Arvo happened to be the same one as Kenny.
Except when the racist is the guy with the gun, then you shut your mouth and do whatever he says or you're dead.
Goes both ways, especially in Kenny's situation since he had the power.
Yeah, but you'd still wanna beat the shit out of him.
I'm Russian and I was okay with it. It's not such a big deal.
You know wich 1 was funny
Arvo: ( Speaking Russian)
Kenny: Say it in American asshole
Arvo: Its okay, ice, walk!
Kenny: Yeah that is the fucking problem, ice!
Yeah because it was a game. Imagine being in that position and real life. Would you honestly feel the same.
There's quite a lot of hate on Russians nowadays, because of the politics. I got used to it.
You shouldn't have to get used to it though. Russia's a country that's been through hell in the past and done more for the West than people give it credit for (I'd say you guys are the reason the Germans surrendered after Hitler died). But if it doesn't bother you, then I'm glad, but I do hope things get better for you guys soon, because if there's one part of me that is Aussie, it's my view on racism.
I strangely agreed with Kenny all the way in this episode ( never been to close to him ) if i have been given the option to shoot him after the shootout i would've picked it instantly.
Being racist is a bad thing regardless of circumstance.
I thought 'shemale' was a slur for transgender people?
How did you end up in the end?
I'm not a person that gets offended easily, so I usually just stay silent. But still thanks, I do hope that things will get better soon for everyone.
In my first save, alone....I shot Kenny and left Jane after discovering that the baby was alive and she was trying to prove a point.
Fuck Arvo. I'm glad I allowed Kenny to beat his ass.
English motherfucker, do you speak it!
KillArvo
Join the movement!
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Yeah, it bothers me how this game had the chance to make Russians more sympathetic yet ultimately stuck to the American cliche of making them a bunch of untrustworthy weasels.
I expect this nonsense from Call of Duty.
Dat ruskie Arvo just shouting our Clementine for da lolz.....
Mike was cool but trying to be a Lee to Arvo.....
And Bonnie meh hated her since 400 days blaming me for not saving her secret crush Luke...
Shooting lol
He was only "right" about Arvo in that his constant abuse of him made Arvo snap. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy brought about by his inability to think logically, listen to other people, empathize with strangers, or even just realize that violence doesn't solve anything.
Kenny doesn't have the ability to predict the future, so all the horrible stuff he does to Arvo is purely because he is a rage-filled psychotic rather than because he "knew" anything about a stranger.
I might be wrong but I don't think it's racism because both individuals are Caucasian. Russian is not a race.
Kenny is prejudiced, not racist.
Obama is white.
Is Mariah Carey white?
Kenny fought tooth and nail to adopt AJ as his son.
Fuck that Harry potter dude... I would love to avada kedavra him
It's not why he was bullying him, it was because Arvo is a fucking bastard.
I'm with you, man. I (and for extension, Clem XD) wanted to shot him right after the shootout. He and his group are obviously the worst kind of survivor's group, the bandits one. They all deserve to die, specially that motherfucker, who's the "innocent kid who plays the help me role" while the rest prepare the ambush. I hope he died, but if I have the chance, I'll break his knees and elbows, and left him to rot.
Mike and Bonnie... I just take all they carry. They're just poor weak bastards that will be killed sooner or later. I don't want them to drag out me with them. Also, they don't deserve a bullet. Ammo is expensive, you know...
I noticed right away that she was only trying to prove a point, when she says something like this: "You'll see who he really is". Then, when it came to the Kenny/Jane decision I didn't do anything because I didn't really think that he was going to kill her and I was also pissed at her cause, if she was showing me how crazy he was, she shouldn't have cut his FUCKING BELLY! She dies, and then I didn't even read the options when it showed [Shoot Kenny]. Funny thing, the only time where I did the exact same thing was when we find Kenny again and I chose immediatly without reading the other options [Hug Kenny]. Sad
Not because he was racist, but because he was beating me up, not because of a racist motive...
I shot Mike..Won't have to worry about him in season 3
Well, Russian villains always made me laugh, mostly because they were so stereotypical. But when I saw these Russians in TWD, I didn't know if I should still laugh or scream internally.
Way to be racist and sexist and a bigot in one post. Wow.
How is that Bonnie's fault? Luke falling and drowning was Not her fault. Also if you went to save Luke, Bonnie is A complete sweetheart to you even to the point when she leaves. She freaks out when you get shot.
In my book, Mike and Arvo are cool, but fuck Bonnie, Mike wanted to talk to me and be nice, he even dropped the bag and was going to only take one with them, then once I was shot Mike ran over and wanted to help but that bitch Bonnie tried to leave me, not to mention Bonnie blamed me for Lukes death when it was her own fault, It was a good idea to give Luke more time and for him to do it on his own but here comes Bonnie the dumbass who thinks its a good idea to go out herself, what a fucking idiot. The reason I'm fine with Arvo is because he was so abused by Kenny both physically and verbally, they also tied him to a post in the cold at night, no fucking wonder he wanted to get away, I understand why he wanted to shoot me, he thought his sister was alive and that I just killed her for no reason, I still think it was bad of him to shoot me but if I was in his position, constantly being abused untill the point where they don't need me anymore so they just leave me to freeze to death, I would shoot a kid too just to escape.
KillArvo
Well the fact that shes retarded enough to think that the ice that's already broken will support a grown woman makes it her fault, like if the ice was enough to make Luke fall in then it should be a fucking no brainier that throwing a grown woman over there as well will only make it worse. Luke just needed more time but that dumbass wouldn't give him anymore and then she blames me, I did the smart thing by not putting any more weight on and actually giving him a chance, putting another person over there guaranteed death.