Bonnie is determinant, she could die in the lake, so she has no chance of being the PC. Though I wouldn't mind being Mike but his personality as a nice guy has been set in stone.
I have a sneaking suspicion Telltale left the door open for Mike and Bonnie as they did with Kenny, but I hope it wasn't to turn one of them… more into the PC for season 3. Fans can explain or justify their behaviour as much as they want, but personally speaking, I have no sympathy left for any of them.
I don't wanna see Mike again.
He betrayed the group and stole their supplies, everything they had.
And all for the sake of some commie kid, who tried to rob them, and would've killed them if necessary.
I hear ya!
I wouldn't.
If we were still playing as Lee, and there was an option to fistfight Mike, I'd have taken it.
And have Lee beat the living hell out of Mike!
Lee was a badass dude.
Like Kenny, Lee's as strong and as tough as a damn bull.
He beat the shit out of Andy St John.
Lee was able to pin Kenny to the wall on the train, which was no easy task since Kenny himself was a strong guy, as he showed when he pinned Mike. Mike couldn't even move!
Lee fought his way through a herd of walkers.
And Lee fought and choked the life out of the fucker who kidnapped Clem, and depending on the player's decision, did it with only one arm.
I miss playing as Lee.
He was a great, wonderfully written character.
Actually, I think Lee, Kenny, and Clementine, are the best written characters in the entire game.
And you are so blidly siding with Kenny and Clem that you cant think from other peoples pov. Your love for Clem and Kenny isnt a reason for Mike to not ensure his own survival.
You already said it, they BOTH would do the same....
But he just won't bond with Clem but with a ruski that tried to rob them , when they r… moreun into other russians he would betray them with no hesitation trust me.
Oh wait its zykelator... Kenny rules ! ! ! ! !(not really but since you are sooooo f'ing much obsessed with attacking Kenny everyone goes facepalm NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN)
"Commie" isn't racism. It's a political insult. That's no different than calling someone from the Tea Party a tea bagger. Are they racists for saying that too? There are "commie's" that are from the United States. Now apparently every insult is some sort of bigotry.
They probably like to leave their options open which is good. They also might have thought Clementine shooting another person was excessive for her since she has the option of shooting Kenny later. It's also possible they don't want Clementine to have the option of becoming more dark (killing when it's not absolutely self defense / protecting someone else. Mike didn't have the gun) until she's older.
I hear ya!
I wouldn't.
If we were still playing as Lee, and there was an option to fistfight Mike, I'd have taken it.
And have Lee beat t… morehe living hell out of Mike!
Lee was a badass dude.
Like Kenny, Lee's as strong and as tough as a damn bull.
He beat the shit out of Andy St John.
Lee was able to pin Kenny to the wall on the train, which was no easy task since Kenny himself was a strong guy, as he showed when he pinned Mike. Mike couldn't even move!
Lee fought his way through a herd of walkers.
And Lee fought and choked the life out of the fucker who kidnapped Clem, and depending on the player's decision, did it with only one arm.
I miss playing as Lee.
He was a great, wonderfully written character.
Actually, I think Lee, Kenny, and Clementine, are the best written characters in the entire game.
Some people just feel the need to throw around the big bad "R-word" when they face even the slightest political incorrectness. I wouldn't worry about it, man. 98% of everybody knows that Kenny was using the term and was being ridiculous about it.
"Commie" isn't racism. It's a political insult. That's no different than calling someone from the Tea Party a tea bagger. Are they racist… mores for saying that too? There are "commie's" that are from the United States. Now apparently every insult is some sort of bigotry.
that's not what i mean. arvo is referred to as a "commie" purely because he is russian, and that's definitely racist. it would be different if you KNEW he was a communist, but you don't, and that's why it's racist because kenny is basing his assumption purely because of his race.
"Commie" isn't racism. It's a political insult. That's no different than calling someone from the Tea Party a tea bagger. Are they racist… mores for saying that too? There are "commie's" that are from the United States. Now apparently every insult is some sort of bigotry.
lol... Arvo and his Russian friends get no sympathy from me. I'd have hurled all kinds of insults too. "Commie" I mean really? Are people becoming that sensitive? I can see Hispanics, or blacks being upset with racial slurs because in the past they have been treated horribly. Calling a Russian a Commie is like calling a Brit a Limey, or someone from the U.S. a Yank. It's like really? You're going to get upset about that? If you are you shouldn't play any game, or watch any movie above the child rating.
that's not what i mean. arvo is referred to as a "commie" purely because he is russian, and that's definitely racist. it would be different … moreif you KNEW he was a communist, but you don't, and that's why it's racist because kenny is basing his assumption purely because of his race.
there's a russian guy who i saw was displeased with how everyone insulted russians as a whole because of the arvo crew on the forums ( i forget his name, sorry) so clearly people do take offence. just because a race hasn't been treated as badly as blacks or hispanics in the past, that doesn't mean they're disallowed from being upset about racial insults.
lol... Arvo and his Russian friends get no sympathy from me. I'd have hurled all kinds of insults too. "Commie" I mean really? Are peop… morele becoming that sensitive? I can see Hispanics, or blacks being upset with racial slurs because in the past they have been treated horribly. Calling a Russian a Commie is like calling a Brit a Limey, or someone from the U.S. a Yank. It's like really? You're going to get upset about that? If you are you shouldn't play any game, or watch any movie above the child rating.
If I remember correctly he was upset because he felt TellTale was making Russians look like the bad guys. He felt it not realistic that there was a group of Russians in the United States. When I read it I got the impression he felt they were using the Russians as the bad guys because of what's been happening in Ukraine which I thought was nonsense.
upset? no.
there's a russian guy who i saw was displeased with how everyone insulted russians as a whole because of the arvo crew on the … moreforums ( i forget his name, sorry) so clearly people do take offence. just because a race hasn't been treated as badly as blacks or hispanics in the past, that doesn't mean they're disallowed from being upset about racial insults.
I always thought that they changed it because if Clem shoots him it makes more sense for Arvo to shoot her and maybe also because it's a bit too extreme for Clem to shoot someone like that (it only happens in the end with Kenny because she can protect Jane).
upset? no.
there's a russian guy who i saw was displeased with how everyone insulted russians as a whole because of the arvo crew on the … moreforums ( i forget his name, sorry) so clearly people do take offence. just because a race hasn't been treated as badly as blacks or hispanics in the past, that doesn't mean they're disallowed from being upset about racial insults.
I don't have a problem with him wanting to leave the group. If he has a problem with Kenny then he's more then welcome to find his own way. The problem is the way he did that showed selfishness and no care. He stole all their supplies and was going to steal the truck. He was prepared to leave an 11 year old and a new born with nothing and no chance for survival. He was stupid enough to allign himself with someone who triedo kill him just one day earlier. I can even look past some of it but what kind of person condones the action of shooting a child. He deserves no empathy or compassion
And you are so blidly siding with Kenny and Clem that you cant think from other peoples pov. Your love for Clem and Kenny isnt a reason for Mike to not ensure his own survival.
I'd like to think the reason they took out the whole shooting Mike scene was because they had killed so many people already, but I really think it's because Mike would have been Clem's first "kill" like that she directly caused. It would be far too dark for her to shoot a guy in cold blood like that so early.
I don't have a problem with him wanting to leave the group. If he has a problem with Kenny then he's more then welcome to find his own way. … moreThe problem is the way he did that showed selfishness and no care. He stole all their supplies and was going to steal the truck. He was prepared to leave an 11 year old and a new born with nothing and no chance for survival. He was stupid enough to allign himself with someone who triedo kill him just one day earlier. I can even look past some of it but what kind of person condones the action of shooting a child. He deserves no empathy or compassion
What you said but then with Jane is how you are
I said i don't give a sh#t who you choose and you have to moan and whine all the time thats why people respond to you this way...
Oh wait its zykelator who HAS to go up against everyone who made different choises and you refuse to see THEIR pov looking at everything you are blabbing about the whole day
And you are so blidly siding with Kenny and Clem that you cant think from other peoples pov. Your love for Clem and Kenny isnt a reason for Mike to not ensure his own survival.
Arvo never shot them and he was trying to deal with the robbery peacefully. He didnt want to get anyone killed.
That was the dumbest thing you've ever said "a peacefull robbery" lol lmao
Every robber wants a robbery to go quietly, but calling a robbery peacefull just because you have to whine at EVERYONE doesn't make it true and since when is Arvo a girl.....
You make up so many things and still you think changing the story with a but it also could have been (but it wasn't)
He stole all their supplies and was going to steal the truck.
Every man for himself?
He was stupid enough to allign himself wi… moreth someone who triedo kill him just one day earlier.
Arvo never shot them and he was trying to deal with the robbery peacefully. He didnt want to get anyone killed.
I can even look past some of it but what kind of person condones the action of shooting a child. He deserves no empathy or compassion
From arvo's point of view, Clementine murdered her sister. Clementine also had a gun and she was a threat to them.
He tried to rob them in the freezing cold he snitched them out, and Mike is helping him...
Sarah useless? Yeah right Clem got through to her so no, don't listen to what Jane the psycho is saying because Sarah escaped the trailer. and was full aware when she died , she may have overcome her fears but was still mourning about her father and hoping it was not true
They had exra to what they had in ep 5 Luke, Rebecca and (Determinant Sarah). I'll give you luke but Rebecca was heavily pregnant and Sarah… more was next to useless so I dont quite get what your getting at. The safest thing for him and Bonnie would have been to leave but they stayed to help and got the group water.
Oh and another one in ep 5 He's the one to support and help Luke despite having an injured arm (I dont see how you can spin that to him being selfish) oh and hes the only one to stand up for Arvo being beaten and terrorised which is why Arvo opened up to him in the first place, I think hes generally a good person but no one in this world is completely good, honestly hes better than most who are left
Not completely sure, they seemed to have changed allot of things in this Season. They did say that we would be playing Season 3 in a different perspective however.
And you are so blidly siding with Kenny and Clem that you cant think from other peoples pov. Your love for Clem and Kenny isnt a reason for Mike to not ensure his own survival.
As George Carlin once said, context is what matters. It's not necessarily the word alone that's the problem, it's the fact that the word was used in such a way to dehumanize Arvo and cast him out on top of all the other abusive behavior from Kenny, and the idea that this is okay is a very real one believed in by certain dumbass Americans. The same kind of people who classify all Muslims as terrorists or suicide bombers, or who would casually refer to a German person as a Nazi.
Now it's quite easy to simply call Kenny on his ridiculous behavior and let it be without getting offended and upset, and almost everyone has pretty much done that. But then when you have someone repeating and essentially (or just flat out) glorifying that behavior, it's understandably gonna send the wrong message that that kind of behavior is justifiable, which it never is.
In summation: People aren't getting upset over a word, but over casual acceptance and implicit congratulating of harmful, bigoted sentiments. In this context, "Commie" and everything else Kenny said of that nature is used no differently than slurs against Hispanics and black people. In all instances, they are words meant to denigrate and divide. I'm not asking you to rally yourself to a cause or anything, but understand that there's a little more to it than trying to be PC and getting offended over nothing but words.
lol... Arvo and his Russian friends get no sympathy from me. I'd have hurled all kinds of insults too. "Commie" I mean really? Are peop… morele becoming that sensitive? I can see Hispanics, or blacks being upset with racial slurs because in the past they have been treated horribly. Calling a Russian a Commie is like calling a Brit a Limey, or someone from the U.S. a Yank. It's like really? You're going to get upset about that? If you are you shouldn't play any game, or watch any movie above the child rating.
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Bonnie is determinant, she could die in the lake, so she has no chance of being the PC. Though I wouldn't mind being Mike but his personality as a nice guy has been set in stone.
so can you not be racist or...?
me too.
why is everyone racist towards russians
I hear ya!
I wouldn't.
If we were still playing as Lee, and there was an option to fistfight Mike, I'd have taken it.
And have Lee beat the living hell out of Mike!
Lee was a badass dude.
Like Kenny, Lee's as strong and as tough as a damn bull.
He beat the shit out of Andy St John.
Lee was able to pin Kenny to the wall on the train, which was no easy task since Kenny himself was a strong guy, as he showed when he pinned Mike. Mike couldn't even move!
Lee fought his way through a herd of walkers.
And Lee fought and choked the life out of the fucker who kidnapped Clem, and depending on the player's decision, did it with only one arm.
I miss playing as Lee.
He was a great, wonderfully written character.
Actually, I think Lee, Kenny, and Clementine, are the best written characters in the entire game.
Excuse me?
All I was doing is Quoting Kenny's description of that little twirp.
Its more annoying that i have to mention it on every message.
Because they are always villians in every game and movie.
And you are so blidly siding with Kenny and Clem that you cant think from other peoples pov. Your love for Clem and Kenny isnt a reason for Mike to not ensure his own survival.
quoting? you're referring to him as a "commie" because he's russian. kenny's a racist, bro.
Here , you are actually right.
The OP claims there is evidence when all he provides is speculations and theorys.
I know when I see Mike, Bonnie, and Arvo, Clem and Kenny are gonna torture them, Clem and Kenny would be like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdboPmJjSG4&feature=player_embedded
"Commie" isn't racism. It's a political insult. That's no different than calling someone from the Tea Party a tea bagger. Are they racists for saying that too? There are "commie's" that are from the United States. Now apparently every insult is some sort of bigotry.
They probably like to leave their options open which is good. They also might have thought Clementine shooting another person was excessive for her since she has the option of shooting Kenny later. It's also possible they don't want Clementine to have the option of becoming more dark (killing when it's not absolutely self defense / protecting someone else. Mike didn't have the gun) until she's older.
Imagine what Lee would do to Arvo when he shot Clem.
Some people just feel the need to throw around the big bad "R-word" when they face even the slightest political incorrectness. I wouldn't worry about it, man. 98% of everybody knows that Kenny was using the term and was being ridiculous about it.
that's not what i mean. arvo is referred to as a "commie" purely because he is russian, and that's definitely racist. it would be different if you KNEW he was a communist, but you don't, and that's why it's racist because kenny is basing his assumption purely because of his race.
lol... Arvo and his Russian friends get no sympathy from me. I'd have hurled all kinds of insults too. "Commie" I mean really? Are people becoming that sensitive? I can see Hispanics, or blacks being upset with racial slurs because in the past they have been treated horribly. Calling a Russian a Commie is like calling a Brit a Limey, or someone from the U.S. a Yank. It's like really? You're going to get upset about that? If you are you shouldn't play any game, or watch any movie above the child rating.
I think it has something to do with that passenger airliner they blew up a few months ago.
upset? no.
there's a russian guy who i saw was displeased with how everyone insulted russians as a whole because of the arvo crew on the forums ( i forget his name, sorry) so clearly people do take offence. just because a race hasn't been treated as badly as blacks or hispanics in the past, that doesn't mean they're disallowed from being upset about racial insults.
oh yeah, discriminate against the entire race because of a portion of them. k.
If I remember correctly he was upset because he felt TellTale was making Russians look like the bad guys. He felt it not realistic that there was a group of Russians in the United States. When I read it I got the impression he felt they were using the Russians as the bad guys because of what's been happening in Ukraine which I thought was nonsense.
Ditto.
I always thought that they changed it because if Clem shoots him it makes more sense for Arvo to shoot her and maybe also because it's a bit too extreme for Clem to shoot someone like that (it only happens in the end with Kenny because she can protect Jane).
Technically it's xenophobia, not racism.
That's my buddy Luke! He got lucky, real lucky.
No wonder Kenny didn't want to bring Arvo.
But Mike is cool!
I don't have a problem with him wanting to leave the group. If he has a problem with Kenny then he's more then welcome to find his own way. The problem is the way he did that showed selfishness and no care. He stole all their supplies and was going to steal the truck. He was prepared to leave an 11 year old and a new born with nothing and no chance for survival. He was stupid enough to allign himself with someone who triedo kill him just one day earlier. I can even look past some of it but what kind of person condones the action of shooting a child. He deserves no empathy or compassion
I'd like to think the reason they took out the whole shooting Mike scene was because they had killed so many people already, but I really think it's because Mike would have been Clem's first "kill" like that she directly caused. It would be far too dark for her to shoot a guy in cold blood like that so early.
Every man for himself?
Arvo never shot them and he was trying to deal with the robbery peacefully. He didnt want to get anyone killed.
From arvo's point of view, Clementine murdered her sister. Clementine also had a gun and she was a threat to them.
What you said but then with Jane is how you are
I said i don't give a sh#t who you choose and you have to moan and whine all the time thats why people respond to you this way...
Oh wait its zykelator who HAS to go up against everyone who made different choises and you refuse to see THEIR pov looking at everything you are blabbing about the whole day
That was the dumbest thing you've ever said "a peacefull robbery" lol lmao
Every robber wants a robbery to go quietly, but calling a robbery peacefull just because you have to whine at EVERYONE doesn't make it true and since when is Arvo a girl.....
You make up so many things and still you think changing the story with a but it also could have been (but it wasn't)
He tried to rob them in the freezing cold he snitched them out, and Mike is helping him...
Sarah useless? Yeah right Clem got through to her so no, don't listen to what Jane the psycho is saying because Sarah escaped the trailer. and was full aware when she died , she may have overcome her fears but was still mourning about her father and hoping it was not true
Not completely sure, they seemed to have changed allot of things in this Season. They did say that we would be playing Season 3 in a different perspective however.
Is Russian a race, i thought they were white people?
maybe you should read the comment above yours again....
Maybe this is why the Survivors hardly ever drink water.
As George Carlin once said, context is what matters. It's not necessarily the word alone that's the problem, it's the fact that the word was used in such a way to dehumanize Arvo and cast him out on top of all the other abusive behavior from Kenny, and the idea that this is okay is a very real one believed in by certain dumbass Americans. The same kind of people who classify all Muslims as terrorists or suicide bombers, or who would casually refer to a German person as a Nazi.
Now it's quite easy to simply call Kenny on his ridiculous behavior and let it be without getting offended and upset, and almost everyone has pretty much done that. But then when you have someone repeating and essentially (or just flat out) glorifying that behavior, it's understandably gonna send the wrong message that that kind of behavior is justifiable, which it never is.
In summation: People aren't getting upset over a word, but over casual acceptance and implicit congratulating of harmful, bigoted sentiments. In this context, "Commie" and everything else Kenny said of that nature is used no differently than slurs against Hispanics and black people. In all instances, they are words meant to denigrate and divide. I'm not asking you to rally yourself to a cause or anything, but understand that there's a little more to it than trying to be PC and getting offended over nothing but words.