What if it (TWAU) has a completely different ending?!
The current theories of Faith being Nerissa or Nerissa being Faith are (most likely) wrong. See, when Faith's head turns up on the doorstep of the Woodlands building, it has a black eye and wound on the lip, from the woodsman beating on her earlier that day. If Bigby actually met Nerissa earlier while glamoured as Faith, why would the bruise and the wound be at the exact same spot as it was on "Nerissa's" head that day? And if Bigby met Faith and Nerissa was killed while glamoured as Faith, you'd have the exact same problem. So the girl Bigby met in the beginning was definitely dead. As for the Bloody Mary theory: I don't believe that one because Bloody Mary is kindof heartless while both Nerissa and Faith were friendly, caring, emotional etc. Also, one more thing: if Nerissa were glamoured as Faith or if Faith was glamoured as Nerissa (in the beginning) why would the other (Faith glamoured constantly as Nerissa or the real Nerissa) place Faith's head at the doorstep? Because she said she'd "swing by" Bigby's apartment. Why would she want Bigby's attention if she knew he'd notice because Faith didn't go to his apartment? Of course this is not a solid argument, but it does kinda make more sense than Nerissa/Faith placing the head for even more attention or something like that. It's not that easy to do, so she must have felt really desperate, and probably didn't even know Bigby had met Faith/Nerissa earlier that day.
Now onto a new theory, what has been and still is what I believed in since Nerissa dropped the "you're not as bad as everyone says you are" line: I think the girls with the ribbons are still loosely connected, or maybe even everyone in the crooked man's power. It may have even been so strong that all fables that are in is control, made all fables outside of the woodlands be slightly ignored and forgotten by those in the Woodlands, so the Justice system won't interfere. Think about it: they all sort of recognized eachother, but not very much, they hardly know any background story very well, Lily, a.k.a. Holly's sister, went missing and it didn't concern Snow that much, even though she's very thoughtful about those things (not everything, I think she's too much into justice, kinda strict and kinda bitchy to Bigby too, but still... she gave a speech at Lil's funeral, surely she cared). So somehow the crooked man's still in control, or at the very least his "gang". As for the girls with the ribbons: maybe they (perhaps along with Bloody Mary even, because both Faith and her said "see you around", with the same flick-of-the-hand-while-holding-up-two-fingers-thing) are somehow still connected/attached to their ribbons (Nerissa still wanted to wear it), and it's making all of them say or think kind of the same way, maybe they even knew from eachother what they were thinking (all of them wanted to escape, but their lips were sealed, how were they supposed to talk about it? Maybe they didn't maybe they only thought it). They kind of say the same things, like both Nerissa and Faith ask Bigby if he likes their ribbon, and of course they both said that he's not as bad as everyone says he is. So by imprisoning/killing the crooked man (or by throwing him down the witching well), his power is still not gone.
Also, one last thing: in the end, Nerissa had just told Bigby probably all she knew, why would she give one big hinting and confusing plot twist away like that on purpose? She probably didn't realize she had just said the exact same thing Faith did at the beginning of the game.
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Your theory does make sense, I've had some thoughts where Faith was Faith and Nerissa was Nerissa, and the thought sequence at the ending was maybe a red herring to throw players off. I don't know, but I'm hoping that Telltale will make a Season 2 or even a DLC to help put the Faith/Nerissa theory to rest.
I did like the ending, but at the same time I feel a bit jipped because there were many unanswered questions like with Lily, what was the purpose of her death? Nerissa explained that Faith was the one who wanted to use the photo of Crane and Lily against the Crooked Man to get out, and she was killed to make an 'example' for the girls, but she never explained the reason of Lily's death; same thing when she admitted to placing Faith's head at the Woodlands, but she never admitted that she placed Lily's although it's a strong indicator that she did. I know that Lily's death made Bigby believe that Crane was the killer trying to cover up his fetish for Snow, but there has to a reason why the Crooked Man wanted Lily dead (I don't think Lily would've been much of a threat to him because she was on drugs). Also, I'm not sure if Crane knew that Lily was killed in that motel room before the end of Episode 2 or right at the part. Even though Lily was dead, I would've like to know more about her.
There's also the part when you go to the Cut Above and find the lab. Upon seeing the blood and chains, Bigby theorizes that the Crooked Man uses the prostitutes to make the black-market glamours, and they wouldn't be able to talk about it because of the ribbon; it's strong circumstantial evidence but Nerissa never explained that she or any of the other girls were forced to to make glamours and there was no photos of prostitutes actually making glamours. We have only Bigby's theory, and while he's a capable detective, it's not enough.
Now this is just me, but I would've liked a more in-depth explanation of the ribbons powers for example: since the girls couldn't talk about what was going on, could they get away with writing what was going on. I believe that would've been a loophole but I don't know since I don't know the full extent of ribbons' powers.
I'm sure there's other minor plot holes but those are the ones I can think of right now.
Yes, I agree completely, you even gave me new insight. Because if you really start digging deep, there's a lot telltale has to answer for. I really hope there'll be both a DLC (like the walking dead) and a season 2 (also like the walking dead), because I think this was the most succesful game made by telltale so far.
Oh and we also need to see where bigby and snow or bigby and nerissa are going, and why snow has basically turned sorta crazy, at least, that's how I see it.
Lilly was killed as she was planning to escape; like faith. The only reason nerrissa wasnt is because she told on everyone
I dont think they did; greenleaf made glamours and if you mean all those chains and shit in the back I think it was some other people from the crooked mans criminal empire
For me they answered most if not all questions and simply left us on a little cliffhanger to keep us thinking
When and where was that said in the game? It was Faith who stole the photo of Crane and Lily, and Faith had to be killed to make an example. Nerissa never really explain why Lily had to die nor did she admit of putting Lily's head on the Woodlands doorstep (but it's a strong indicator that she did). I don't think that Lily would've been too much of a threat for she was hooked on mundy drugs, plus she and Nerissa witnessed Faith being 'executed' right on the spot so I think she wouldn't try anything to escape, but I don't know. I really wished that Telltale would've delve deeper into Lily's background, I would've like to know what her personality was like, why she and Holly weren't close, and if also she had feelings for the Woodsman, I mean why else would she have sex with him for free?
For the making of glamours, it would make more sense to use the prostitutes because of the ribbons, they wouldn't be able to talk about it. Again, this was strong circumstantial evidence but there was no physical proof.
Sorry, I'm a detailed-oriented person and if something has no reason or explanation for, then it drives me crazy. XD
Nerrisa says at the end says she went to georgie and told him everything, thats clear enough information for me. She wasnt killed as she came clean. honestly I think not talking about things is accepeted in gangs anyway. the butcher didnt talk about anything and he didnt wear a ribbon they all know better than to talk as they'll end up dead or worse.
Again, she explained why Faith was killed. Nerissa truly believed that Lily's murder was done by Georgie ordering on behalf of the Crooked Man, but she never explained why. I don't believe Lily was killed because of that photo, it was all Faith's idea to use the photo as leverage and I think Lily went along with it (Nerissa never really said if Lily was all for it or if she was hesitant but went along with it). Also, wouldn't Faith's death be enough to keep Lily, Nerissa, and the other girls in line? There has to be another reason for Lily to have been murdered. If Telltale had developed more on Lily's character, there would've been some key factors that led up to her murder.
I also believed that Johann truly had no idea that the Crooked Man's people were using the back of his shop to make black-market glamours; he knew something was up but he didn't dare alert the authorities because he was afraid of the Crooked Man and especially Bloody Mary, plus he believed that the Business Office wouldn't do anything about it. Telltale took away Bigby's ability to detect a lie so that we players could make our own choices.
It sure would have been cool though, if you could detect it if someone lied.
doesn't TWAU have alternate endings?
It has alternate trial scenes, but the actual ending is the same no matter what you do.
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