Not at all. We already have the technology to tell us, within a tiny space of error, if someone is lying. We have the technology to project the thoughts of a mind as pictures on a screen. We have/are mapping the intricacies of the human brain and establishing new rules for its processes all the time. Science fiction births science.
I agree, scanning people's brains for information does seem a little out there.
Almost sounds like maybe someone has watched to many Sci-fi flicks.
Lol!
Plus, if science fiction births science, what about memory erasing things? Wouldn't someone just erase that memory, so in them according to their brain they are telling the "truth".
Not at all. We already have the technology to tell us, within a tiny space of error, if someone is lying. We have the technology to project … morethe thoughts of a mind as pictures on a screen. We have/are mapping the intricacies of the human brain and establishing new rules for its processes all the time. Science fiction births science.
If none of you aren't willing to kill or torture those people yourselves, shut the fuck up. If you are, then you aren't "good" like you all claim to be or any different from them.
If it's kill or be killed, then it isn't murder.
This man killed his child's molester, and if he hadn't his life would not have been take… moren. That IS murder.
My husband having to shoot someone who was about to shoot him when he was a soldier was not murder.
If none of you aren't willing to kill or torture those people yourselves, shut the fuck up. If you are, then you aren't "good" like you all claim to be or any different from them.
The error doesn't usually come from an unknown set of internal possibilities like a moth flapping its wings in New York, but more so from the understanding one may have with the limits and science behind the test and their ability to "sneak past the security" if you will. It's very hard for a person to overcome millions of years of evolution by will. If there is another link between a lie detector test and chaos theory I hope you fill me in.
Could that exist and could it happen? Possibly. But it's much harder to extiguish a memory than to identify it. You would need to reset or destroy the neural pathways that attribute to that memory. A daunting task. I'm not saying memory erasing won't ever exist, far be it from me to post a stop sign on what is and isn't possible, but we aren't far from the technology to identify and we are far from the technology to willfully nullify.
if science fiction births science,
That "if" has me curious. Do you honestly propose that science fiction doesn't birth science?
tiny space of error
Chaos Theory. Life finds a way.
Plus, if science fiction births science, what about memory erasing things? Wouldn't someone just erase that memory, so in them according to their brain they are telling the "truth".
I don't see why anyone would defend a child molester. Who cares what happens to them. I don't. I think we should personally send all the child molesters/rapists to Mars so they can be the first "colonists." there. I'm sure nothing bad will happen to them.
There was a guy in Ohio that killed a guy who was a convicted child molester for touching his son.
Guess what sentence he got? Probation and a 1500 dollar fine.
Or are you making the circular reasoning argument that by supporting the death penalty they are supporting death so they are supporting the thing that the other person is being killed for? Because that is a largely flawed argument.
I support both. I'm an advocate of the Death Penalty, and I do support Corporal Punishment in terms to preventing future Terrorism. I'm too … moretired to explain why, I may come back later and edit it in.
Edit: I'm such a liar, I apparently have no self restraint lol.
Regarding my stance on Corporal Punishment, I don't think I need to go into too much detail. I have absolutely no sympathy for Terrorists: people who are more than willing to kill thousands of innocents in the most fucked up kind of way to further their equally fucked up agenda. If torturing them get's us the intel we need to prevent future incidents of Terrorism, then by all means go ahead.
As for Death Penalty, I think I need to be a bit more detailed in my explanation, I'm also going to include snippets from my old research paper for Political Science..(I do cite my sources, I can send them to you if anyone feels the need.)
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The error doesn't usually come from an unknown set of internal possibilities like a moth flapping its wings in New York, but more so from th… moree understanding one may have with the limits and science behind the test and their ability to "sneak past the security" if you will. It's very hard for a person to overcome millions of years of evolution by will. If there is another link between a lie detector test and chaos theory I hope you fill me in.
Could that exist and could it happen? Possibly. But it's much harder to extiguish a memory than to identify it. You would need to reset or destroy the neural pathways that attribute to that memory. A daunting task. I'm not saying memory erasing won't ever exist, far be it from me to post a stop sign on what is and isn't possible, but we aren't far from the technology to identify and we are far from the technology to willfully nullify.
if science fiction births science,
That "if" has me curious. Do you honestly propose that science fiction doesn't birth science?
I don't see why anyone would defend a child molester. Who cares what happens to them. I don't. I think we should personally send all the chi… moreld molesters/rapists to Mars so they can be the first "colonists." there. I'm sure nothing bad will happen to them.
I think we can all probably safely assume that there is no reasonable or potentially intellectual conversation to be had with the guy. If he is going to say what he did, and then refuse to back it up, he is only looking to toss around insults and not actually partake in discussion. It just screams "12 year old kid on the internet", in my opinion. Which is why I will be ignoring any sort of lash out from the guy for saying this
I can't even make this connection.
Or are you making the circular reasoning argument that by supporting the death penalty they are suppor… moreting death so they are supporting the thing that the other person is being killed for? Because that is a largely flawed argument.
More like test subjects. We have to find out what kind of things human beings would face by living on another world. Who knows what unattended consequences we would have.
More like test subjects. We have to find out what kind of things human beings would face by living on another world. Who knows what unattended consequences we would have.
I think the death penalty misses the point of punishment, which is intended to be rehabilitative.
I had more or less planned to just float around in this topic without giving my own insight on the issue, but I don't really understand your personal reasoning for this particular line of thought. The purpose of rehabilitation is for the reintegration of a criminal back into society. It's to help prevent further crime; it's not meant as some sort of personal benefit for the criminal. With that said, rapists, sex offenders, and murderers should not be let back into society. Therefore, the idea of giving these criminals the benefit of personal rehabilitation is pointless to what the justice system is trying to accomplish. The death penalty doesn't miss the point at all.
I think there are better approaches than corporal punishment, particularly for children.
I think the death penalty misses the point of punishment, which is intended to be rehabilitative.
I remember I once created a thread, asking others how they felt out about parental discipline, specifically whether they supported spanking an unruly child.
Are you saying I'm a hypocrite because I support spanking an unruly child, but say I also believe that people who commit sexual molestation against a child deserve the death penalty?
Are you serious!?
What kind the hell kind of sense does that make?
Spanking an unruly child, helps to teach them right from wrong, as well as respect.
The word respect, carries the connotation of having a healthy fear of the consequences that follow from doing wrong, like stealing and etc.
Today we have a whole society of youths who feel they can do anything they want, and nothing bad is going to happen to them.
And that's not reality!
The reality is that their are consequences for doing wrong.
And teaching a child to respect his parents, as well as respect for authority, giving children that proper training will help to protect them later on in life.
Parental discipline, and parental abuse, are to completely different things.
Spanking an unruly kid, IS NOT parental abuse.
And as far as ones who sexually abuses a child, I still feel that anyone who does that to a child, should be legally executed, instead of being thrown into prison where they get be clothed, sheltered, and fed three times a day, all at the expense of our tax dollars.
Why should we have to pay to house these monsters?
My husband having to shoot someone who was about to shoot him when he was a soldier was not murder.
Right, give a soldier permission, justify the reasons and suddenly murder becomes acceptable.
I understand that if your husband didn't shoot his attacker while on active duty, he'd be dead, but this actually doesn't stop this from being a murder. It's simply more justified, since it's self-defense, but still.
If it's kill or be killed, then it isn't murder.
This man killed his child's molester, and if he hadn't his life would not have been take… moren. That IS murder.
My husband having to shoot someone who was about to shoot him when he was a soldier was not murder.
I think the death penalty misses the point of punishment, which is intended to be rehabilitative.
I had more or less planned to just… more float around in this topic without giving my own insight on the issue, but I don't really understand your personal reasoning for this particular line of thought. The purpose of rehabilitation is for the reintegration of a criminal back into society. It's to help prevent further crime; it's not meant as some sort of personal benefit for the criminal. With that said, rapists, sex offenders, and murderers should not be let back into society. Therefore, the idea of giving these criminals the benefit of personal rehabilitation is pointless to what the justice system is trying to accomplish. The death penalty doesn't miss the point at all.
@Lingvort
I thought Belan was a guy and knew he was only one person, I used ambiguous nouns in an attempt to not upset Belan if I got the gender wrong.
@Lingvort
I thought Belan was a guy and knew he was only one person, I used ambiguous nouns in an attempt to not upset Belan if I got the gender wrong.
@Lingvort
I thought Belan was a guy and knew he was only one person, I used ambiguous nouns in an attempt to not upset Belan if I got the gender wrong.
Child molesters are the scrum of the earth
Yeah i know, that is why no one cares what happens to Child Molesters when their assaulted in jail or killed. Anyone that hurts a child is evil and deserves no mercy, but that is my opinion.
I recently figured out how to not encounter the glitch, don't respond right away. Wait till the time signature of when they posted says "a few minutes ago" and it should be perfectly fine.
Yeah I do. XD
I recently figured out how to not encounter the glitch, don't respond right away. Wait till the time signature of when they posted says "a few minutes ago" and it should be perfectly fine.
Yeah I do. XD
I recently figured out how to not encounter the glitch, don't respond right away. Wait till the time signature of when they posted says "a few minutes ago" and it should be perfectly fine.
Oh, so America's troops condones the beheading of innocents, and partakes in it in the name of their god? American condones and partakes in the use of children and women alike as human shields? American soldiers believe that sacrificing themselves in suicidal bombings is just, and that will somehow get them into Heaven where they will be rewarded in virgins? That it's ok to rape and murder kids/women if it's in the name of their god? That publicly killing people for having different religions is ok? Because American soldiers and Terrorists are interchangeable right? Seriously, stop talking.
people who are more than willing to kill thousands of innocents in the most fucked up kind of way to further their equally fucked up agenda.
You do realize that is every army, ever. Right?
I've always been on the fence since both sides have good points, but I lean more towards anti-death penalty. I've seen documentaries of peop… morele in prison and how they come to terms with their crime and its consequences, as well as trying to do something for society. Some inmates get degrees, teach classes, and care for pets. Some people can be rehabilitated.
Prison life is horrible if you commit certain crimes. Child molesters are actually targeted in prison, since many of the men there have children of their own outside the fence. Many are killed or tormented by inmates, or driven to suicide. Look at Jeffrey Dahmer. Sex offenders life in prison is literally a living hell.
Death is also an easy way out for them. Let them rot in a cell for decades, instead of giving them a swift end.
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He was a sick person, and in the end he murdered in prison in a very violent end for hurting children.
If it's kill or be killed, then it isn't murder.
This man killed his child's molester, and if he hadn't his life would not have been taken. That IS murder.
My husband having to shoot someone who was about to shoot him when he was a soldier was not murder.
Not at all. We already have the technology to tell us, within a tiny space of error, if someone is lying. We have the technology to project the thoughts of a mind as pictures on a screen. We have/are mapping the intricacies of the human brain and establishing new rules for its processes all the time. Science fiction births science.
In that situation it's not kill or be killed.
Chaos Theory. Life finds a way.
Plus, if science fiction births science, what about memory erasing things? Wouldn't someone just erase that memory, so in them according to their brain they are telling the "truth".
If none of you aren't willing to kill or torture those people yourselves, shut the fuck up. If you are, then you aren't "good" like you all claim to be or any different from them.
No, figure it out.
you say murder i say taking out the trash.
very mature.
No matter how messed up this is, I laughed at that George. Like For You.
The error doesn't usually come from an unknown set of internal possibilities like a moth flapping its wings in New York, but more so from the understanding one may have with the limits and science behind the test and their ability to "sneak past the security" if you will. It's very hard for a person to overcome millions of years of evolution by will. If there is another link between a lie detector test and chaos theory I hope you fill me in.
Could that exist and could it happen? Possibly. But it's much harder to extiguish a memory than to identify it. You would need to reset or destroy the neural pathways that attribute to that memory. A daunting task. I'm not saying memory erasing won't ever exist, far be it from me to post a stop sign on what is and isn't possible, but we aren't far from the technology to identify and we are far from the technology to willfully nullify.
That "if" has me curious. Do you honestly propose that science fiction doesn't birth science?
I don't see why anyone would defend a child molester. Who cares what happens to them. I don't. I think we should personally send all the child molesters/rapists to Mars so they can be the first "colonists." there. I'm sure nothing bad will happen to them.
I've never heard that story, but it makes me more proud than ever to live in this state!
I can't even make this connection.
Or are you making the circular reasoning argument that by supporting the death penalty they are supporting death so they are supporting the thing that the other person is being killed for? Because that is a largely flawed argument.
You do realize that is every army, ever. Right?
happened maybe two months ago. It was in the news.
It wouldn't sound right if I said, "Plus, science fiction births science, what about memory erasing things?
As a penal colony?
Couldn't find a newer or better quality..
I think we can all probably safely assume that there is no reasonable or potentially intellectual conversation to be had with the guy. If he is going to say what he did, and then refuse to back it up, he is only looking to toss around insults and not actually partake in discussion. It just screams "12 year old kid on the internet", in my opinion. Which is why I will be ignoring any sort of lash out from the guy for saying this
Right, so your comment about kill or be killed was completely irrelevant.
More like test subjects. We have to find out what kind of things human beings would face by living on another world. Who knows what unattended consequences we would have.
The British did with Australia, and look at it turned out....a bunch of tough crazy crocodile wrestling people, good enough eh?
I had more or less planned to just float around in this topic without giving my own insight on the issue, but I don't really understand your personal reasoning for this particular line of thought. The purpose of rehabilitation is for the reintegration of a criminal back into society. It's to help prevent further crime; it's not meant as some sort of personal benefit for the criminal. With that said, rapists, sex offenders, and murderers should not be let back into society. Therefore, the idea of giving these criminals the benefit of personal rehabilitation is pointless to what the justice system is trying to accomplish. The death penalty doesn't miss the point at all.
I remember I once created a thread, asking others how they felt out about parental discipline, specifically whether they supported spanking an unruly child.
Are you saying I'm a hypocrite because I support spanking an unruly child, but say I also believe that people who commit sexual molestation against a child deserve the death penalty?
Are you serious!?
What kind the hell kind of sense does that make?
Spanking an unruly child, helps to teach them right from wrong, as well as respect.
The word respect, carries the connotation of having a healthy fear of the consequences that follow from doing wrong, like stealing and etc.
Today we have a whole society of youths who feel they can do anything they want, and nothing bad is going to happen to them.
And that's not reality!
The reality is that their are consequences for doing wrong.
And teaching a child to respect his parents, as well as respect for authority, giving children that proper training will help to protect them later on in life.
Parental discipline, and parental abuse, are to completely different things.
Spanking an unruly kid, IS NOT parental abuse.
And as far as ones who sexually abuses a child, I still feel that anyone who does that to a child, should be legally executed, instead of being thrown into prison where they get be clothed, sheltered, and fed three times a day, all at the expense of our tax dollars.
Why should we have to pay to house these monsters?
Right, give a soldier permission, justify the reasons and suddenly murder becomes acceptable.
I understand that if your husband didn't shoot his attacker while on active duty, he'd be dead, but this actually doesn't stop this from being a murder. It's simply more justified, since it's self-defense, but still.
I don't think I've ever disagreed with one of your posts.
Belan's a guy, and, as far as I know, one person.
Belan does give great points to every post they do.
As much as I dislike the term, I'm pretty sure he's cisgender.
I'm pretty fucking sure I'm gonna say a few not-so-nice words to a member of web development team for not fixing this bug.
So, as I was saying, as much as I dislike the term, I'm pretty sure Belan's cisgender. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
@Lingvort
I thought Belan was a guy and knew he was only one person, I used ambiguous nouns in an attempt to not upset Belan if I got the gender wrong.
OH, FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
You get the idea of my two posts.
I agree.
Yeah I do. XD
I recently figured out how to not encounter the glitch, don't respond right away. Wait till the time signature of when they posted says "a few minutes ago" and it should be perfectly fine.
Hmm, that might actually work. I'll try it out, thanks for the suggestion.
Good to know, thank you.
Oh, so America's troops condones the beheading of innocents, and partakes in it in the name of their god? American condones and partakes in the use of children and women alike as human shields? American soldiers believe that sacrificing themselves in suicidal bombings is just, and that will somehow get them into Heaven where they will be rewarded in virgins? That it's ok to rape and murder kids/women if it's in the name of their god? That publicly killing people for having different religions is ok? Because American soldiers and Terrorists are interchangeable right? Seriously, stop talking.
It costs on average, about $30,000 a year to house prisoners. It's not cost effective.
No problem, it usually works for me.
Yes it will.