Is Clem as Mentally Stable, as She Seems?
There are so many people in the za who've let the world they live in, take them away from whom they once were.
From the game only there's: Lily, Kenny, Stranger, Carver, Jane, the St. John's(or maybe not. Maybe they were eating people before the za.) Maybe more.
Clem has been through a lot. From seeing her parents, as walkers. To losing Lee. Not to mention the countless deaths she has witnessed. How long/much will it take for her to crack?
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Even in the real world, no one is truly mentally stable. I thought I was, until something horrendous happened that was unforeseen.
Took me a long time to get things straight in my head after. And even now I can have a relapse over the smallest thing. So to answer your question, be it a ZA or real life, people can only take so much before they crack. How much a person can take, well thats very much down to the individual. So it's up to the writers. If they wanted to make it more realistic though, perhaps they should have Clementine cracking at some point. Would be interesting.
Aside from being depressed and extremely angry, she's pretty 'stable'. No hallucinations or psychotic episodes, and I'm kinda glad for that.
Although it WOULD be interesting to play as a mentally ill character.
She handles herself better than most people, but she has definitely been affected mentally as a result of all that she has seen. In Season 1, she was this hopeful little girl who had this positive attitude, she felt the world would go back to how it was and looked for the good in people. In Season 2, she loses that sense of hope and sees the world for what it truly is, and the deaths of Lee, Omid, Christa's baby, and others have helped her realize that. It can be argued that she suffers from a minor case of PTSD aas well as survivor's guilt. So yes, this world has changed Clementine, but I would say she is still mentally stable, I don't see her cracking like Kenny has.
You missed out the save lot bandits.
Anyway, she only appears stable because she received very little character development in season 2.
She's stable as shes the main character. The player controlled character can never become unstable
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Yeah, that's definitely the face of someone who is perfectly stable.
IMO she is probably got problems in the head. She lost her parents, Lee, pretty much everyone she cared about. That changes who you are. She might hide it well, but she probably lives with that sinking depression everyday. My guess is that she is repressing it, and it will manifest itself in other forms later.
I hope not people who tend to have any form of serenity in a place like the ZA have issues that surpass depression. I think she is just bottling up a lot of emotion. Not a good way to deal with things but a way of dealing with it.
Every survivor probably does. However as a child, it's somewhat better. Clementine was still young and getting adjusted to how the world works, the world suddenly changing means she still has time to change and adapt (which she has managed to do so successfully).
With an adult, like Kenny - It's much more difficult. As they've been used to the world throughout their entire lives, so having it change suddenly would be harder to get adapting and adjusted too.
This is also why Clementine has survived the longest. It's who can adapt and learn to live, rather than who can cling onto the past.
She seemed quite calm in S2 considering all the shit she's been through. Clem seems like one of those kids that just ended up adapting to a dangerous environment, but still retains her humanity and a yearning to go back to the way things were. That being said, if you notice when a dangerous situation occurs she starts swaying her body back and forth as if she's trying to prepare herself for any harm coming her way. She never did that in S1. I believe the girl won't crack as long as the player continues to control her and her choices.
Clementine isn't dealing with it, she is just pushing it aside so she can live day by day.
Take my like. Also since Clementine is practically a baby she is much open to influence opposed to someone like Kenny or Nate who see the world being a much different thing and suffering because of it.
Nate is a broken person, kind of like Joel in TLOU.
There's actually a lot of games where you control a mentally unstable character.
Kane & Lynch
Spec Ops: The Line
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (and a lot of horror games for that matter)
Twisted Metal: Black (and all of them, really)
Manhunt 2
Rule of Rose
Hotline Miami
and many more I've forgotten.
Mass Effect.
Any Silent Hill Game,
Amnesia 1 & 2
Like the others said , theres HEEPS.
Funny Joke.
Trevor Philips GTA V
Alex Mercer Prototype
Tommy Vercetti GTA VC
I think he's just masking it with a psycho killer bravado to hide how depressed and miserable he is. He's done being alone and what seems more cool a wild, fun bad ass or a sad lonely bore?
Yes but its choice based. The playable character has to be logical as we are logical in that situation making decisions
He isn't a psycho, he combat ptsd bad, like a trigger for him is when someone shoots at him. He will kill you. He has been alone for a long time, and doesn't know how to relate with others, i think i have a unique understanding on this character because we have a lot of things in common.
I used to think that it was unrealistic for her not to show her emotions and start crying in season 2 but then I said to myself that it was just a game after all and that there were plenty other things that don't make much sense in the game. But after thinking about it a little bit more, I think her behavior isn't that unlikely because there are so many children in the world that suffer similar things (of course not walkers!) like witnessing their family and friends die, being abused and exploited by people they don't even know. All of them are forced to become adults too soon and they simply can't take a moment to cry or act as children, they have to adapt to their environment to survive.
That's why many of them don't show emotions as they probably should after all that's happened to them, they keep it all inside which can also be bad for them and the real psychological problems can appear when they're much older or adults. I think that's most likely what would happen to Clem in the story. Plus, reactions to traumatizing events depend on our personality and it seems like Clem is very tough for her age, she was already very mature and smart when she was with Lee, so maybe she has enough mental strenght to deal with it despite her young age.
In my opinion Clem is cracking and she could just be one more big event from shattering, she may hide it well, she may be and has been bottling up her emotions, pushing them to one side leaving them in the back of her mind but this is only a temporary solution. As a child her mind is weak and fragile, more prone to impressions from the people around her. But because of her young age this imprints on her, this changes her faster and while it may not be a welcomed change it is a necessary one to survive. Clem is definitely suffering to some degree weather it be a form of depression, PTSD, survivors guilt or even a combination of all three, she is defiantly affected to some stage and while she may look strong she's still the same little girl from season 1 minus the hopeful outlook on the world but with an added coating of grit and iron, but everyone has their limits and Clem is no different eventually she'll cave in and let it all out or she'll shatter and be forever changed.
John Rambo in last scenes of First Blood cries. Adult man, soldier, expert in combat, weeps like a baby. Clementine, 12 years old girl, never gives up. She's tougher than Rambo. Zombies, canibals, bandits, death of parents, death of Lee, gore scenes - all that makes Clem stronger. Good job, Nick Breckon, good job...
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Oh, sry for mistake.
In Breckon's world - younger kid -> tougher kid. Look at AJ. Almost never cries/poops/gets a cold, doesn't need food.
I want extreme realism in my video games dammit!
She doesn't look that stable to me... I basically created a sociopath out of her. :P
I heard him crying a lot for the 1 full episode he was in. And besides, some babies don't cry that much. I barely cried when I was a kid, I can't explain why, but some kids just don't cry as much as other kids do.
There isn't much food, even Kenny says there's only about a day's worth, so there isn't much to be giving him. And if I recall, no one shits in this game.The only time I've ever seen someone actually say they were going to the bathroom was Sarah in Episode 3 and Bonnie (determinantly) in Episode 5.
Again, been in one episode, hasn't even been alive for two weeks. If he was alive for a few years then maybe that's a complaint, but a couple of weeks and to complain that he's never sick is ridiculous.
Again, not much food, and I'm sure he was fed off screen, just like every other character has eaten off screen. I never saw Lee eat in my game, doesn't mean he didn't have food.
And let's face it, in a zombie apocalypse, kids grow up faster than usual. If you've read the comics or watched the show, you see that in Carl. His comic book version is around Clementine's age, maybe a little older, and that kid has killed, lost an eye, and uses better weapons than Clementine has. For her to be the same innocent little girl that she was in Season 1 would be the unrealistic part.
I remember when everyone hated nate on these boards. You should read some of the old nate threads , back in may/june/july there was only a few people i can say that were on Team Nate when DLC was released. I think what changed is, now S2 was released, it changed the game, people saw the people they liked ie( Kenny/Jane ) doing some bad things, so how can they judge Nate.
He's been alive for at least a week, exposed to the elements and possibly even rotten guts. He's most definitely a goner. Baby immune systems are weak immune systems.
And I wouldn't use Carl as a 'realistic' example. Then again, Clem also shrugs off a rifle bullet to the shoulder.
Well when you are that young and lose a parent/parents and people close to you, you develop differently. You accept fate and deal with things after you are initially upset. You learn that you don't have a choice and you have to keep moving on. When adults lose someone dear for the first time they act differently and very emotionally. They also get bitter and full of regret and for a long time. Like Kenny, Jane, Nick, Ben, Rebecca, etc.. Clementine learned a lot of good lessons from Lee and most important to stay stable because a lot of bad things are going to happen. She is surviving because of Lee telling her she has to keep going. She has those two factors on her side. Her age when this went down and Lee's lessons.
Child soldiers often struggle with PTSD and survivor's guilt, don't they? That's pretty much what Clementine was forced to become. In two years, she went from playing in her treehouse, to holding her own in a firefight. She's surviving, but suffering for it.
She's been too busy surviving to really process everything that's happened, so It would be interesting to see if it all comes crashing down I once she's in a safe/stable community.
Plus, PTSD is a real persistent bitch. Even if she doesn't display symptoms now, it could come back to haunt her years down the line.
I think Clementine will hallucinate and see and talk to people who are dead at one point :x
Cant Go Back Clem... just keep moving forward.
I lived with PTSD ever since i got it man. People wonder why i drive so slow, because when i first got back, i would have to check the roads for IEDS, because in my crazy brain i would think, gee there could be a explosive on the roads of Ohio. Clementine is just living in the moment, i been there, when you are in the army, you don't have time to think about your own mortality. You got to go grab that dude, and sew his leg back up before he bleeds out.
I love the dog picture.
People who say that "Lee would turn over in his grave if Clem met Nate" are idiots. They don't have an answer for the Kenny/Jane thing and she won't make it alone. Nate is the much lesser evil imho