People who say that "Lee would turn over in his grave if Clem met Nate" are idiots. They don't have an answer for the Kenny/Jane thing and she won't make it alone. Nate is the much lesser evil imho
She's been through a lot so maybe she seems okay but in some way she's broken. At least, what I can say for sure is that ZA affected her already because she's not the same person from before outbreak occured. Also I have a feeling that if she'll be in season 3 then maybe there will be some braking point for her. I mean, we already saw her dream with Lee. Or memory, or whatever.
...Yes she is. Why would she not be? Every single survivor at this point has seen bad stuff, so dealing with their mental issues is something they HAVE to do. It's literally human nature.
...Yes she is. Why would she not be? Every single survivor at this point has seen bad stuff, so dealing with their mental issues is something they HAVE to do. It's literally human nature.
I'm sorry - What? Yes she is living day by day, but as Katjaa once said (Well not exact words) - You don't know what she feels inside. Yeah Clementine can go around hacking zombies but she clearly still misses Lee, Katjaa, Carley, Ben, Omid, all the people with her. Heck, in All That Remains she sees Lee's picture and sadly gazes at it. She couldn't even burn it yet.
Also don't. Don't even think about bringing "Experiences of loss" or mental struggles into this. This has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
Breckon himself is ignorant or thinks players are. Well some are, but we know toddlers are fragile. No vaccines, no food, no clothes to change. Almost all time AJ is outside, freezing winter. During the scene near fire, Kenny goes somewhere (his watch, i think) and takes baby with him! Away from the fire, away from the warm place! It is an insult.
He's been alive for at least a week, exposed to the elements and possibly even rotten guts. He's most definitely a goner. Baby immune syst… moreems are weak immune systems.
And I wouldn't use Carl as a 'realistic' example. Then again, Clem also shrugs off a rifle bullet to the shoulder.
No Toddler is going to survive Ohio winter without food or warm clothing, blankets, shelter. The wind chill right now is -36 degrees... I'm sorry. no chance in hell. This game isn't based on reality, however IMO they should still try to be realistic when possible IE ) No Clementine kicking door down scene. Lets try to avoid that in the future.
Breckon himself is ignorant or thinks players are. Well some are, but we know toddlers are fragile. No vaccines, no food, no clothes to chan… morege. Almost all time AJ is outside, freezing winter. During the scene near fire, Kenny goes somewhere (his watch, i think) and takes baby with him! Away from the fire, away from the warm place! It is an insult.
I do know how i felt when i lost my parents, my brother, wife, list goes on and on. I remember that. Some people can bounce back and be fine, other people it takes YEARS. There is no standard of grief, it lasts this long.
Because Experience of Loss doesn't change who you are right?
I'm sorry - What? Yes she is living day by day, but as Katjaa once said (Well not exact words) - You don't know what she feels inside. Yeah … moreClementine can go around hacking zombies but she clearly still misses Lee, Katjaa, Carley, Ben, Omid, all the people with her. Heck, in All That Remains she sees Lee's picture and sadly gazes at it. She couldn't even burn it yet.
Also don't. Don't even think about bringing "Experiences of loss" or mental struggles into this. This has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
As seen with Russell he wants to have a friendship with some people. I think if he found himself being attached to Clementine and Aj anyone who would hurt him would be in for hell.
No Toddler is going to survive Ohio winter without food or warm clothing, blankets, shelter. The wind chill right now is -36 degrees... I'm … moresorry. no chance in hell. This game isn't based on reality, however IMO they should still try to be realistic when possible IE ) No Clementine kicking door down scene. Lets try to avoid that in the future.
I would say Clem is pretty stable if you ask me, if she has the balls to straight up say to a murderers face "I wish Kenny had killed you" She has to be stable enough to have the mindset of 'he might kill me or slap me or something along those lines but fuck it, I'mma say it'
I think Clem has gone through the depression state obviously, seeing her parents dead as walkers and then not even about 5 seconds later her father figure passed out in the middle of a zombie herd, then about 10-15 minutes later she either has to leave him to reappear as a walker or shoot him in the head, noww that's fucking tough shit there, a 9 year old seeing her parents dead then knowing that there is nothing she can do to save Lee her father figure into becoming a walker except shoot him in the head. Then about 7/8 months later beeing with someone for so long, longer than with Lee and seeing them shot right in front of her because she misplaced her gun and didn't carry it with her into the toilet, then another 16 months after that she gets abandoned from her friend that she has survived so long with for a stupid reason and for the rest of the season doesn't know if she is alive or dead... Add another what week later she finally gets a good moment and finds someone that she missed. Kenny.. Obviously she was brought back after that, brought back from the stability she was in, brought back from the depression, BUT it's not over yet though for poor Clementine.
Not even a week later she has to decide the fate of Kennys lover Sarita which causes Kenny to go into a mentally unstable place then causes him to yell at her, the person that Clem thought Kenny was had just disappeared and a new darker one had come which may or may not have put her back in that depressed state.. I would say about a nother fucking week or so she has the choice to either straight up let someone get murdered in front of her when she has the power to stop it, or shoot Kenny, or do BOTH if she shot Kenny then obviously shes going back into depression, no matter if you liked him, Clem liked him and to shoot him to shoot her secondary father figure would have been too much for her, but if she doesn't shoot then she gets maybe one of her closest friends killed... THEN she has to decide whether to stay in Wellington or go with Kenny and leave Wellington... that is allot of shit an 11 year old has done in ZA and she still seems mentally stable..
As seen with Russell he wants to have a friendship with some people. I think if he found himself being attached to Clementine and Aj anyone who would hurt him would be in for hell.
I'm sorry for your losses, however I believe you're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying Clementine is/isn't changing from her losses (I believe she is).
However she still actively misses people like Lee, Ben, Nick, Luke, Sarah, her parents, etc. Her mentality is still processing those losses and she still feels broken because of them, however survival. You can either sit down, cry and die or just try and survive.
Clementine chose the latter. Doesn't mean she still doesn't feel saddened by those losses.
I do know how i felt when i lost my parents, my brother, wife, list goes on and on. I remember that. Some people can bounce back and be fine… more, other people it takes YEARS. There is no standard of grief, it lasts this long.
Because Experience of Loss doesn't change who you are right?
That's a big if. I like to think Nate has some humanity in him he could have easily killed Russell and took what he had but didn't. I think Clementine could make him see some light
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I like Nate but i don't see him playing much of the caretaker role, unless forced into it somehow.
She's been through a lot so maybe she seems okay but in some way she's broken. At least, what I can say for sure is that ZA affected her already because she's not the same person from before outbreak occured. Also I have a feeling that if she'll be in season 3 then maybe there will be some braking point for her. I mean, we already saw her dream with Lee. Or memory, or whatever.
...Yes she is. Why would she not be? Every single survivor at this point has seen bad stuff, so dealing with their mental issues is something they HAVE to do. It's literally human nature.
............. No she isn't.
She is living Day by Day.
If you never dealt with Loss, then this is beyond your scope of understanding.
I'm sorry - What? Yes she is living day by day, but as Katjaa once said (Well not exact words) - You don't know what she feels inside. Yeah Clementine can go around hacking zombies but she clearly still misses Lee, Katjaa, Carley, Ben, Omid, all the people with her. Heck, in All That Remains she sees Lee's picture and sadly gazes at it. She couldn't even burn it yet.
Also don't. Don't even think about bringing "Experiences of loss" or mental struggles into this. This has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
Breckon himself is ignorant or thinks players are. Well some are, but we know toddlers are fragile. No vaccines, no food, no clothes to change. Almost all time AJ is outside, freezing winter. During the scene near fire, Kenny goes somewhere (his watch, i think) and takes baby with him! Away from the fire, away from the warm place! It is an insult.
No Toddler is going to survive Ohio winter without food or warm clothing, blankets, shelter. The wind chill right now is -36 degrees... I'm sorry. no chance in hell. This game isn't based on reality, however IMO they should still try to be realistic when possible IE ) No Clementine kicking door down scene. Lets try to avoid that in the future.
I do know how i felt when i lost my parents, my brother, wife, list goes on and on. I remember that. Some people can bounce back and be fine, other people it takes YEARS. There is no standard of grief, it lasts this long.
Because Experience of Loss doesn't change who you are right?
As seen with Russell he wants to have a friendship with some people. I think if he found himself being attached to Clementine and Aj anyone who would hurt him would be in for hell.
I mean, the premise IS that this is a "realistic" world where the only unusual aspect is the zombies.
I would say Clem is pretty stable if you ask me, if she has the balls to straight up say to a murderers face "I wish Kenny had killed you" She has to be stable enough to have the mindset of 'he might kill me or slap me or something along those lines but fuck it, I'mma say it'
I think Clem has gone through the depression state obviously, seeing her parents dead as walkers and then not even about 5 seconds later her father figure passed out in the middle of a zombie herd, then about 10-15 minutes later she either has to leave him to reappear as a walker or shoot him in the head, noww that's fucking tough shit there, a 9 year old seeing her parents dead then knowing that there is nothing she can do to save Lee her father figure into becoming a walker except shoot him in the head. Then about 7/8 months later beeing with someone for so long, longer than with Lee and seeing them shot right in front of her because she misplaced her gun and didn't carry it with her into the toilet, then another 16 months after that she gets abandoned from her friend that she has survived so long with for a stupid reason and for the rest of the season doesn't know if she is alive or dead... Add another what week later she finally gets a good moment and finds someone that she missed. Kenny.. Obviously she was brought back after that, brought back from the stability she was in, brought back from the depression, BUT it's not over yet though for poor Clementine.
Not even a week later she has to decide the fate of Kennys lover Sarita which causes Kenny to go into a mentally unstable place then causes him to yell at her, the person that Clem thought Kenny was had just disappeared and a new darker one had come which may or may not have put her back in that depressed state.. I would say about a nother fucking week or so she has the choice to either straight up let someone get murdered in front of her when she has the power to stop it, or shoot Kenny, or do BOTH if she shot Kenny then obviously shes going back into depression, no matter if you liked him, Clem liked him and to shoot him to shoot her secondary father figure would have been too much for her, but if she doesn't shoot then she gets maybe one of her closest friends killed... THEN she has to decide whether to stay in Wellington or go with Kenny and leave Wellington... that is allot of shit an 11 year old has done in ZA and she still seems mentally stable..
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S2 was, what it is man. Full of Plotholes, "I GOT LUCKY, REALLY LUCKY."
I don't think Nate would give two shits about AJ, i believe Nate would think AJ is going to die anyway, so don't bother getting attached to it.
I'm sorry for your losses, however I believe you're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying Clementine is/isn't changing from her losses (I believe she is).
However she still actively misses people like Lee, Ben, Nick, Luke, Sarah, her parents, etc. Her mentality is still processing those losses and she still feels broken because of them, however survival. You can either sit down, cry and die or just try and survive.
Clementine chose the latter. Doesn't mean she still doesn't feel saddened by those losses.
That's a big if. I like to think Nate has some humanity in him he could have easily killed Russell and took what he had but didn't. I think Clementine could make him see some light