cutting off the erotic nerves is ridiculous.
I'm circumcised, and I can feel the "erotic nerves" just fine.
also how do you kn… moreow they dont feel pain?
Because in modern countries, anesthetics are used, they were used on me.
Wheres the consent also? Its the babies body not yours, if an adult or teen wants to get circumcised then im fine with that. I know several people who wished they still had their foreskin..
That's probably the only logical argument against circumcision, but it's not like people never do surgeries/vaccinations to babies without their consent anyway. Besides, why would anyone disagree to go through a practice that would benefit them?
Also theres a report that was done on this study that concluded even though theres benefits to circumision is definitely not a priority. and wether the positives outwiegh the negitives is completely subjective.
It's not subjective, it's objective … [view original content]
circumcision cuts off about 240 feet or the erotic nerve endings
Yeah, it might make the orgasms a little less "intriguing" or whatever, but I don't see that a legitimate reason to prohibit the practice.
Im just wondering how some babies go into shock (some even pass out)
I've never heard of that happen, but every surgery has its risks.
Whether or not circumcision is good is up for debate looking at both sides of it I personally think circumcision doesn't have enough positives to outweigh the negatives.
See, it's not about what I think or what you think, it's about the actual evidence for how many benefits it actually has.
Also they NEVER stated that circumcision was necessary in any means
I know a friend who recently discovered he will have to go through circumcision in order to take a normal piss, how's that for necessary? Of course, it's not 100% necessary for your survival, but there's no actual reason not to do it, you're only getting perks from having one.
Since it's been decided that the benefits outweigh the risks, circumcision is automatically considered a beneficial practice. It's not about me or you or the baby, it's about a conclusion drawn by experienced researchers
I'm circumcised, and I can feel the "erotic nerves" just fine.
All im saying circumcision cuts off about 240 feet or the erotic nerv… moree endings, thats a lot.
Because in modern countries, anesthetics are used, they were used on me.
Im just wondering how some babies go into shock (some even pass out)
but it's not like people never do surgeries/vaccinations to babies
Sorry.. I think its a little different since all the things you originally stated about the benefits of circumcision could all be revered by I dont know.. condoms possibly. Or just generally being careful who you have sex with.
Also they NEVER stated that circumcision was necessary in any means, youre looking at it in a biased few. Whether or not circumcision is good is up for debate looking at both sides of it I personally think circumcision doesn't have enough positives to outweigh the negatives. But you think its a good thing then good for you I guess.
Sexism: I am totally for egalitarianism. I'm against anti-man and I'm against anti-woman
Abortion: I'm 50/50 with abortion. It should be … morelegal.
LGBT; I agree with LGBT
Racism: Against
Abuse: I'm against animal/children abuse
Bullying; I am against bullying and bullies
Vaccination: Everybody should have a vaccination
Gun control: I'm against guns. They're to dangerous
Death Sentence: I disagree with killing people.
Why are there so many conservatives/rightists in here?
EDIT: Sorry that I changed everything but, after writing my original post, I've edited it into saying how cool is seeing other people's opinions. Then I changed it into looking like the original post (since I do not want to write it again from the beging)
Still, That was written a long time ago, It's like the bible, Look at that, If you read the bible like "how it is" then it says that
Slavery is okay
Women are lesser than Men
And a ton of other stuff
So it's a lot like Islam in a way and that is that it depends on how you interpret it because you can do the exact SAME thing that ISIS does with the Bible if you wanted to but you have to remember that the religions were started A LONG time ago and things have changed.
They haven't misread the messages of their religion, their religion is actually all about killing the infidels, subdue to Allah and all the … moreother inadequate bullshit that comes with the original Islamic beliefs (Islam translates to "submission").
In Sura 9:29, Muhammad establishes the principle that unbelievers should be fought until they either convert to Islam or accept a state of humiliation under Islamic subjugation. This is confirmed in the Hadith by both Sahih Muslim and Bukhari.
While it is true that not all Muslims are blood-thirsty terrorists, you cannot call yourself a "true" Muslim if you reject the core beliefs of the Islam.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Myths-of-Islam.htm
Seriously? Well... Egalitarianism is equality for all people and not saying that everybody is perfect or good. Of course you are wrong if you are racist/sexist/homophobic, because that isn't wanting equality for everyone.
Seriously? Well... Egalitarianism is equality for all people and not saying that everybody is perfect or good. Of course you are wrong if you are racist/sexist/homophobic, because that isn't wanting equality for everyone.
A baby recently had its entire penis cut off in a botched circumcision, there were also plenty of babies that died from herpes when the rabi (or whatever performs it ) sucked the blood off.
Circumcision is the mutilation of a childs genitalia and is disgusting. No one should be so obsessed with a child genitals they have a ceremony dedicated to mutilating them. I whole heartedly believe that circumcision male or female should be abolished.
circumcision cuts off about 240 feet or the erotic nerve endings
Yeah, it might make the orgasms a little less "intriguing" or whate… morever, but I don't see that a legitimate reason to prohibit the practice.
Im just wondering how some babies go into shock (some even pass out)
I've never heard of that happen, but every surgery has its risks.
Whether or not circumcision is good is up for debate looking at both sides of it I personally think circumcision doesn't have enough positives to outweigh the negatives.
See, it's not about what I think or what you think, it's about the actual evidence for how many benefits it actually has.
Also they NEVER stated that circumcision was necessary in any means
I know a friend who recently discovered he will have to go through circumcision in order to take a normal piss, how's that for necessary? Of course, it's not 100% necessary for your survival, but there's no … [view original content]
Sexism: I am totally for egalitarianism. I'm against anti-man and I'm against anti-woman
Abortion: I'm 50/50 with abortion. It should be … morelegal.
LGBT; I agree with LGBT
Racism: Against
Abuse: I'm against animal/children abuse
Bullying; I am against bullying and bullies
Vaccination: Everybody should have a vaccination
Gun control: I'm against guns. They're to dangerous
Death Sentence: I disagree with killing people.
Why are there so many conservatives/rightists in here?
EDIT: Sorry that I changed everything but, after writing my original post, I've edited it into saying how cool is seeing other people's opinions. Then I changed it into looking like the original post (since I do not want to write it again from the beging)
Well, by saying "Why are there so many conservatives/rightists in here" makes me label people like they're wrong or bad... How can I ask why are there so many right wing and conservative people in this thread without offending anybody? I don't understand you.
Feminism already is egalitarianism.
No. Don't even try to compare that diarrhea vomited abortion that is feminism to egalitarianism,… more it's insulting to Washington.
Feminism has done wonderful things for men. For example, a big push in feminism at the moment is for it to become acceptable for men to wear 'feminine clothes'
Oh boy that'll surely lead us to space colonization
Something a lot of people don't understand is that things like the verses on slavery in the OT are not necessarily God's will, but merely him giving up to the corrupt ways of the primitive times, God was never ok with it, he just didn't encourage against it because he knew that we could do it on our own.
You see, slavery was a very common thing back then, God couldn't just abolish it because that would be taking our free will to choose whether to do it or not. Read Leviticus 25:39-40 for more about that.
Same with women, the social standards then and now are different, and remember that man and woman were created equal and lived in harmony until the original sin of Genesis 3, not to mention that Yeshua himself has treated women and men as equals in the time he lived.
Anyway, it's nothing like Islam, the New Testament and the preachings of Yeshua Christ about love and acceptance is nothing like the poisonous talk of Mohammad about Jihad.
Let's compare:
Yeshua - "You have heard that it was said, 'AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.' "But I say to you, do not resist an evil person, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. "If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also.…"
Saul - "Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful, it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."
Mohammad - "I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them." (8:12)
"Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks; at length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly on them; thereafter is the time for either generosity or ransom; until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah’s Will, he could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those that are slain in the name of Allah—He will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to The Garden (Heaven) which he has announced for them." (47:4-6)
The difference between the followers of Yeshua and the followers of Mohammad, is that we unconditionally love our enemies, and they abolish theirs.
Still, That was written a long time ago, It's like the bible, Look at that, If you read the bible like "how it is" then it says that
Slav… moreery is okay
Women are lesser than Men
And a ton of other stuff
So it's a lot like Islam in a way and that is that it depends on how you interpret it because you can do the exact SAME thing that ISIS does with the Bible if you wanted to but you have to remember that the religions were started A LONG time ago and things have changed.
It's foundation was immoral due to the nature of the claims made for the land and the manner in which Palestinians were, and are still being, forcibly removed.
A baby recently had its entire penis cut off in a botched circumcision, there were also plenty of babies that died from herpes when the rabi… more (or whatever performs it ) sucked the blood off.
Circumcision is the mutilation of a childs genitalia and is disgusting. No one should be so obsessed with a child genitals they have a ceremony dedicated to mutilating them. I whole heartedly believe that circumcision male or female should be abolished.
Goodness this forum is even more conservative than I expected. I mean, I expected to be off-put by the nature of living in an academic and thereby pretty progressive place/workplace, but still, this is pretty shocking.
I really do wonder why telltale games attract this in a way that other RPGs don't. Anyone got any ideas specifically about what attracts a right wing crowd to these games? @ Right wingers in particular, what draws you to these games more than others such as dreamfall chapters, mass effect etc in the presentation of social and moral interaction?
Goodness this forum is even more conservative than I expected. I mean, I expected to be off-put by the nature of living in an academic and t… morehereby pretty progressive place/workplace, but still, this is pretty shocking.
I really do wonder why telltale games attract this in a way that other RPGs don't. Anyone got any ideas specifically about what attracts a right wing crowd to these games? @ Right wingers in particular, what draws you to these games more than others such as dreamfall chapters, mass effect etc in the presentation of social and moral interaction?
I know about the Slavery thing, I was just giving an example of how people can misinterpret things and use it to justify something (Like Slavery, many Southern Priests back then would use the Bible to justify Slavery)
And for the Muslim thing, I guess you would know more than me (I believe you live in Isreal, Right? So you've probably gotten a better chance to learn more about it) So all I can say from what I know is that they seem to get a lot of hate because most news-getting terrorism groups today are Muslim in some way so that kinda gives them a bad reputation.
Something a lot of people don't understand is that things like the verses on slavery in the OT are not necessarily God's will, but merely hi… morem giving up to the corrupt ways of the primitive times, God was never ok with it, he just didn't encourage against it because he knew that we could do it on our own.
You see, slavery was a very common thing back then, God couldn't just abolish it because that would be taking our free will to choose whether to do it or not. Read Leviticus 25:39-40 for more about that.
Same with women, the social standards then and now are different, and remember that man and woman were created equal and lived in harmony until the original sin of Genesis 3, not to mention that Yeshua himself has treated women and men as equals in the time he lived.
Anyway, it's nothing like Islam, the New Testament and the preachings of Yeshua Christ about love and acceptance is nothing like the poisonous talk of Mohammad about Jih… [view original content]
Well, they're basically central, which in this day and age is pretty right in the Western world.
But I'm specifically referring to social conservatism, such as opposing gender-neutrality, race-blindness, restricted weapon ownage, anti-all abortion and lgbt rights whereas that survey took into account economics etc.
Oh I see what you're saying, kill the innocent baby because of the unfortunate circumstances in which they were conceived, that's not at all heinous right? Look, myself and a few others have already debunked every single one of your points, as well as every other pro choice argument brought up in the thread dedicated to discussing abortion. I know I'm coming off pretty harsh, and I don't want you to think I'm attacking you or anything, but I am seriously unable to debate this subject in a civil manner since I find abortion to be absolutely immoral and inhumane. We are talking about the* murder of unborn babies* here, it is an extremely touchy issue for me.
Anyways, seeing as I'd rather not repeat myself as I ended up having to do several times in said thread, I'd advise you to just read through the comments.
Im pretty sure we need abortion. I mean really what if a girl is raped? Or she gets pregnant in high school dropping out of school would ruin her life and the babys life and probably the fathers too...Sometimes abortion is necessary
While Muslims get hated for being Muslim even if they don't agree with the ideals of their religion, it's important to remember that Islam is still all about that, haha.
You're absolutely right, it gives them bad reputation, it's unfair like every other stereotype.
I know about the Slavery thing, I was just giving an example of how people can misinterpret things and use it to justify something (Like Sla… morevery, many Southern Priests back then would use the Bible to justify Slavery)
And for the Muslim thing, I guess you would know more than me (I believe you live in Isreal, Right? So you've probably gotten a better chance to learn more about it) So all I can say from what I know is that they seem to get a lot of hate because most news-getting terrorism groups today are Muslim in some way so that kinda gives them a bad reputation.
I am against all forms of child mutilation in the name of religion. Its disgusting let the child reach an age where they can decide whether they want to follow that religion or not and allow them to make a choice. forcing life changing surgery on an infant or child is abuse.
A baby recently had its entire penis cut off in a botched circumcision
That's not what circumcision is. If this story is true, it's … moresimply the actions of some dumb extremist.
there were also plenty of babies that died from herpes when the rabi (or whatever performs it ) sucked the blood off.
I call bullshit, I've heard about 0 cases where the rabbi sucked the blood from the baby's dick. Sounds incredibly and far too stupid to be true.
Circumcision is the mutilation of a childs genitalia and is disgusting.
It's not the mutilation of genitalia, it's cutting of a small piece of skin from the penis and does not harm the function of the genitalia.
Well, they're basically central, which in this day and age is pretty right in the Western world.
But I'm specifically referring to social… more conservatism, such as opposing gender-neutrality, race-blindness, restricted weapon ownage, anti-all abortion and lgbt rights whereas that survey took into account economics etc.
It's foundation was immoral due to the nature of the claims made for the land and the manner in which Palestinians were, and are still being, forcibly removed.
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Yup, its dropping steadily in the USA (Lately especially but it doesnt show on the graph)
Dud you can't say its better if you don't know whats it like to have a foreskin...
Yeah, it might make the orgasms a little less "intriguing" or whatever, but I don't see that a legitimate reason to prohibit the practice.
I've never heard of that happen, but every surgery has its risks.
See, it's not about what I think or what you think, it's about the actual evidence for how many benefits it actually has.
I know a friend who recently discovered he will have to go through circumcision in order to take a normal piss, how's that for necessary? Of course, it's not 100% necessary for your survival, but there's no actual reason not to do it, you're only getting perks from having one.
Since it's been decided that the benefits outweigh the risks, circumcision is automatically considered a beneficial practice. It's not about me or you or the baby, it's about a conclusion drawn by experienced researchers
LMFAO
I don't need to have a foreskin in order to know how to read studies about the benefits of circumcision :P
I am so glad you are against abortion, AWESOMEO!
I found a more recent one, it really is going down:
proceeds to label people like they're wrong or bad.
Still, That was written a long time ago, It's like the bible, Look at that, If you read the bible like "how it is" then it says that
Slavery is okay
Women are lesser than Men
And a ton of other stuff
So it's a lot like Islam in a way and that is that it depends on how you interpret it because you can do the exact SAME thing that ISIS does with the Bible if you wanted to but you have to remember that the religions were started A LONG time ago and things have changed.
Get bread'ed ._.
Seriously? Well... Egalitarianism is equality for all people and not saying that everybody is perfect or good. Of course you are wrong if you are racist/sexist/homophobic, because that isn't wanting equality for everyone.
My comment was aimed at the part where you said "Why are there so many conservatives/rightists in here" that you edited out.
Thanks, haven't seen you in a while man! How are you?
A baby recently had its entire penis cut off in a botched circumcision, there were also plenty of babies that died from herpes when the rabi (or whatever performs it ) sucked the blood off.
Circumcision is the mutilation of a childs genitalia and is disgusting. No one should be so obsessed with a child genitals they have a ceremony dedicated to mutilating them. I whole heartedly believe that circumcision male or female should be abolished.
I think you mean "too" and not "to"
GrammarNazismftw
Well, by saying "Why are there so many conservatives/rightists in here" makes me label people like they're wrong or bad... How can I ask why are there so many right wing and conservative people in this thread without offending anybody? I don't understand you.
May you forgive my soul, Grammar Nazi, for me not being a native speaker in your Language?
I dunno, the progressive left can be pretty loud when we want to be
C'est ça, 'Conservative-ass forum', comme ci-dessus et dessous.
Egalitarianism means you don't judge people for things they can't control, such as race.
It does not mean you have to agree with everyone's opinion: people choose opinions.
Something a lot of people don't understand is that things like the verses on slavery in the OT are not necessarily God's will, but merely him giving up to the corrupt ways of the primitive times, God was never ok with it, he just didn't encourage against it because he knew that we could do it on our own.
You see, slavery was a very common thing back then, God couldn't just abolish it because that would be taking our free will to choose whether to do it or not. Read Leviticus 25:39-40 for more about that.
Same with women, the social standards then and now are different, and remember that man and woman were created equal and lived in harmony until the original sin of Genesis 3, not to mention that Yeshua himself has treated women and men as equals in the time he lived.
Anyway, it's nothing like Islam, the New Testament and the preachings of Yeshua Christ about love and acceptance is nothing like the poisonous talk of Mohammad about Jihad.
Let's compare:
Yeshua - "You have heard that it was said, 'AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.' "But I say to you, do not resist an evil person, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. "If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also.…"
Saul - "Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful, it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."
Mohammad - "I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them." (8:12)
"Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks; at length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly on them; thereafter is the time for either generosity or ransom; until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah’s Will, he could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those that are slain in the name of Allah—He will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to The Garden (Heaven) which he has announced for them." (47:4-6)
The difference between the followers of Yeshua and the followers of Mohammad, is that we unconditionally love our enemies, and they abolish theirs.
No, no no no, forgiveness is not something we Grammar Nazis have... Instead... We'll send you to the concentration camps!
I repel going to the camps to concentrate in my Grammar.
[Boy, that escalated quickly]
It's foundation was immoral due to the nature of the claims made for the land and the manner in which Palestinians were, and are still being, forcibly removed.
That's not what circumcision is. If this story is true, it's simply the actions of some dumb extremist.
I call bullshit, I've heard about 0 cases where the rabbi sucked the blood from the baby's dick. Sounds incredibly and far too stupid to be true.
It's not the mutilation of genitalia, it's cutting of a small piece of skin from the penis and does not harm the function of the genitalia.
So?
Saying 'Not in America. We love Israel' implies it's not even a contentious issue.
Goodness this forum is even more conservative than I expected. I mean, I expected to be off-put by the nature of living in an academic and thereby pretty progressive place/workplace, but still, this is pretty shocking.
I really do wonder why telltale games attract this in a way that other RPGs don't. Anyone got any ideas specifically about what attracts a right wing crowd to these games? @ Right wingers in particular, what draws you to these games more than others such as dreamfall chapters, mass effect etc in the presentation of social and moral interaction?
In the Political Compas Thread ( http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/90272/the-political-compass ), many users are Left and Libertarian.
Sure, but nobody listens.
I know about the Slavery thing, I was just giving an example of how people can misinterpret things and use it to justify something (Like Slavery, many Southern Priests back then would use the Bible to justify Slavery)
And for the Muslim thing, I guess you would know more than me (I believe you live in Isreal, Right? So you've probably gotten a better chance to learn more about it) So all I can say from what I know is that they seem to get a lot of hate because most news-getting terrorism groups today are Muslim in some way so that kinda gives them a bad reputation.
Well, they're basically central, which in this day and age is pretty right in the Western world.
But I'm specifically referring to social conservatism, such as opposing gender-neutrality, race-blindness, restricted weapon ownage, anti-all abortion and lgbt rights whereas that survey took into account economics etc.
Punctuation camps?
Oh I see what you're saying, kill the innocent baby because of the unfortunate circumstances in which they were conceived, that's not at all heinous right? Look, myself and a few others have already debunked every single one of your points, as well as every other pro choice argument brought up in the thread dedicated to discussing abortion. I know I'm coming off pretty harsh, and I don't want you to think I'm attacking you or anything, but I am seriously unable to debate this subject in a civil manner since I find abortion to be absolutely immoral and inhumane. We are talking about the* murder of unborn babies* here, it is an extremely touchy issue for me.
http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/90334/how-do-you-feel-about-abortion/p1
.
Anyways, seeing as I'd rather not repeat myself as I ended up having to do several times in said thread, I'd advise you to just read through the comments.
While Muslims get hated for being Muslim even if they don't agree with the ideals of their religion, it's important to remember that Islam is still all about that, haha.
You're absolutely right, it gives them bad reputation, it's unfair like every other stereotype.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2530755/Jewish-Rabbi-sued-accidentally-SEVERING-newborn-baby-boys-penis-Bris-Ceremony.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2887862/Fourth-Jewish-baby-year-treated-herpes-controversial-Orthodox-circumsicion-method.html
I am against all forms of child mutilation in the name of religion. Its disgusting let the child reach an age where they can decide whether they want to follow that religion or not and allow them to make a choice. forcing life changing surgery on an infant or child is abuse.
I think you might be over-thinking this.
It's probably just the vocal people you are seeing.
Bear with me for the cringe-worthiness of the editing of this video, but I believe this is what you're looking for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc9imoJWgPI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12KJa4a0d64
That babas head is huge! Poor mother that must have been one hell of a birth
But there are way more vocal right wingers here than on other game forums, which raises the exact same question.