French Alps Plane Crash
Just heard today. Absolutely shocking. I head that there were 150 people on board and no survivors. As for the pilot, I don't care if you were depressed. That's no fucking excuse to crash a plane with innocent people on board! Rot in hell scumbag.
As for the families, I cannot comprehend what they're going through, I only hope that they're getting plenty of support.
I'm still shocked that anybody could knowingly cause the deaths of over a hundred innocent people, including children. It's almost impossible to comprehend.
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That's fucking sick. I know a guy who tried killing himself twice by crashing his car with his friends in the passenger seats. The guy is fucked in the head. These people must be pretty fucking lonely if they feel they have to take other people with them.
It's absolutely horrible, if you want to take your life, the very least you can do is not take any other innocent people's life. My parents were actually friends with one of the passengers, he was travelling because his wife was going to have a baby while he was abroad and he wanted to see his son being born. Now the kid will spend his whole life without a father because of the atrocity the pilot did.
That's awful. I'm sorry for your parents.
It wasn't the pilot, it was the co-pilot who was responsible for the crash, he locked the pilot outside of his cabin.
Besides, he was clearly mentally ill (as told to the press by one of his ex-girlfriends) and had some kind of obsession around being a pilot and the Alps themselves. He was a poor guy if you think about it, with a very unstable soul.
It's so sad, he was very good at concealing his dark thoughts. Whoever gave him the permission to fly a plane should be thrown into prison.
What? How on earth was this person supposed to know anything was wrong with the guy, its on him and no one else. Assessors made the checks they could, what more were they meant to do
Sad well hopefully we can learn from this mistake and put better safety standards in place, so this doesn't happen again. Why isn't there a fingerprint recognition switch on the door, that way only certain people could open the door. Its 2015, shit like this shouldn't happen.
I think one of the issues is that unlike America, Europe doesn't have an extreme amount of precautions even after 9/11. For example, anytime a pilot is to leave the cockpit, a flight attendant goes into the cockpit so there is not one person in there. As far as I know, Europe doesn't have this law and in turn this happened.
A tragedy. I hope they make changes to prevent more accidents.
I remember where i was when 9/11 it seems like yesterday.
I was far too young to remember images, but I do remember the sound of the plane flying over my house. The one that hit the Pentagon.
My uncle is an NYPD Detective and he dug through the rubble at the World Trade Center.
Hopefully he doesn't get sick, i heard a lot of those workers have health problems now. I was in school when it happened, it happened like at 9am. I remember our teacher coming in the room crying, and we asked her what was wrong and she told us. Then they let us watch the news for the rest of the day.
How?
You'd assume that before one gets the burden of transporting 150 lives or more in a very complicated vehicle, they are checked thoroughly and annually to be mentally fit to do that.
It can't be that he was able to conceal it that well so that whoever saw him fit for this kind of job couldn't find it out.
I think the bigger issue was that he was able to lock the door behind him, allowing him to take that action.
Mental illness isnt visible, plus depression can come on suddenly.
It's tragic but I want to know what exactly you would have done differently if you were in charge of everything, random acts like this are unpredictable.
The guy is the one to blame and him alone.
the only thing I can think of is making the cockpit more accessible but the reason they are like that is too stop terror threats from passengers
Heard about this a few days ago when it was on the news.
My uncle and I were both horrified when we saw the report. I'd like to see "I can't believe that someone would do that", but people are so sick sometimes. I can't imagine all the people who lost family or friends on that plane. Being an unbelievably empathetic person, my heart really does go out to all of them.
On a side note, it seems like there has been a lot of issues with airliners as of late. Yikes.
Mental illness is not that hard to diagnose if you consider that he should've been checked by professional psychiatrists before being let to fly a damn plane. I doubt it was mere depression, his ex-girlfriend had testified that he had an unstable mind and an obsession for the Alps, also that he wanted to do something that would make his name known.
It is random, but not letting him fly the plane would have been simple if they knew he was ill. If I were in charge, I'd do my best to make it so that there would be no doubt if the pilot has an unstable past or some sort of odd diagnose by the psychiatrists that should have checked him before giving him a license. It is not impossible to recognize a mentally ill person, and they didn't manage to find that out while they should have.
This guy is to blame for the action he took, but also those who didn't think that diagnosing your pilot for any oddities are at fault, it's poor work and it should go punished or at least changed.
They should make it so the cockpit is only accessible by the pilot and co-pilot without managing to lock one of them out of it.
I hope everyone onboard is resting in peace, including the pilot.
He was likely checked or screened before being commissioned and likely follow up checks annually but again mental illnesses are easy to conceal, come and go and vary on the amount they effect, in fact mental illness usually requires the individual to go in and be assessed by doctors as they realise something is wrong. I agree killing all those people is not just depression, The rest of the "symptoms" are attributable to plenty of people, plenty of people want to be remembered or have weird preferences for places.
It's easy to have hindsight about this but I'm failing to see what more anyone else could have done.
If he really felt he had to kill himself, why take so many innocent people with him? The only thing I can think of is for attention, to show people how bad he was hurting. Can someone educate me?
No, you probably have it pegged well. People want to be remembered, and for some people infamy works just fine.
I was far too young to remember anything. My earliest memories are from when I was four and I wasn't even two on September 11th. First time I heard of it was in the movie Flight 93. Even to this day I cannot understand how someone could be evil enough to kill so many people.
Same as the Sydney Siege gunman. He wanted all the news networks over here to report on him. He wanted people to be talking about the crisis. His reason for it might have been different, but it was the same goal.
I'm in no position to appoint blame. What that Co-pilot did is flat out horrible. I'm disgusted at what this world has become. I am horrified at the fact that I will bring children into this. This world seems to only get worse and worse every day. My condolences go it to the family and friends of the passengers and crew aboard the plane, along with the family and friends of the ill-fated copilot.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go lay in bed and attempt to find some faith in the human race.
I always found the story of Flight 93 makes me want to cry and then makes feel extremely proud. God bless each of those passengers who revolted. They are the heroes.
Whether or not it is presented to you in so kindly and quick a fashion as the horrors that happen each day, there are many cases every single moment around the world of the goodness of humanity. You might need to dig a bit further due to the media's pinching for ratings, but it's there
Really sad, why the fuck would you do that?, if you want to kill yourself why take other 150 lifes with you?
Oh yes, I am aware of these acts of kindness. I never meant to overlook them, as it s very heart warming to know there is still some faith left in humanity.
I don't think anyone would rationally do this, unless your a serial killer. I think this guy was just disturbed.
Yeah... this isn't helping me get over my fear of planes >.>
I doubt anyone who kills that many people knowingly isn't disturbed.
Heh, nothing to be afraid of dude
Planes are super safe, the 2nd safest type of transportation (Other than escalators and elevators) if you are worried about crashing (which you shouldn't be) remind your self 95% of all passengers survive plane crashes and also sit at the back of the plane for a 40% survival increase. But you really shouldn't be afraid of flying.. it gets safer every year.
As long as it isn't Malaysian Airlines LOL.
2 babies, 16 teenagers and other 142 innocent people died because of a madman (yeah, I consider he's a madman because nobody normal will kill 150 innocent people that he/she doesn't even know). Being depressed is no excuse to do what he did. I always feel sorry and sad for people that commit suicide (for any reason), but I will never forgive people killing others.
The thing that I hate the most is that I've heard that the copilot said to his girlfriend that he "wanted to be famous". Wtf?
He was just a sick person, who made a tragic choice imo.
Wait a minute, escalators and elevators are two different forms of transportation, making airplanes 3rd!
Haha guess your right c:
They seemed to have theyre statistics combined tho c:
I heard that there is a recording from the cockpit, I think maybe it was from the copilots headset. there was no change at all in his breathing pattern it wasn't escalated, he didn't hold his breath before impact, he didn't even mutter a word it was like he was in a deep trance like state. This is a pretty difficult situation when it comes to doctor patient confidence because his doctor did actually sign him off work but the copilot hid the evidence, a doctor shouldn't in all cases phone somebodies workplace but in some situations they should be legally obliged, obviously some legislation needs to passed.