RIDDLE ME THIS OBAMA SUPPORTERS
CrazyGeorge
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Check this video out,
Start watching especially at timestamp 1:20 and onward.
Does this really seem like a good idea?
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Who cares about who supports Obama now?
He's gone in a year and a half anyway, and he won't leave earlier no matter how pissed people get.
Shit, you got me, here I was supporting Obama (actually I don't), but then you came with Hannity's "Fair and Balanced" view.
You think I'm going to listen to fucking Netanyahu, especially when even the ex-head of Mussad disagrees with him. Btw, I don't speak Farsi (obviously), and I so don't claim to be sure, but to my understanding 'death to_____' is supposedly a figurative expression translated literally, again, dislaimer, I'm not sure about that, and if somebody is willing to take the time to look it up - I did a bit and it didn't seem to conclusive; but in any case it's used far more often (against, America, against Russia, against France, against Saddam) than 'gee, if we ever get a weapon we're going to use it to bomb people we have neither the military capacity to defeat or the technical capability to deliver it'
But yes, under international law, Iran has the legal right to nuclear power, and monitoring and inspection to prevent weaponization are necessary under again agreement. Honestly, I don't think Iran is the boogeyman it is portrayed to be - I think I've said this before, but Iran cooperated with the US in the initial invasion of Afghanistan, and was cooperative with US forces until Bush decided to put them on The Axis of Evil. And if there is anybody who is willing to fight against ISIS, it's Iran. Of course, now there is the Sunni-Shiite fight in Yemen, which is a clusterfuck where we are apparently on both sides. The US really can't break the region any more than it has, and going against Iran, one of the few stable regimes in the area, isn't going to do jack. Are they 'good guys'? No, not at all. But that's not how politics works. Sometimes your interests have you siding with people who are less than savory. If you want an example just take a look at our dear, sweet ally Saudi Arabia.
Actually, I usually disagree with Obama from the left, but this is one of the few instances I actually think he's doing something positive.
Also, really? There are no liberals left? They're all leftists and they want what is bad for America? Not in the sense of 'the policies they advocate are bad for America' but in the sense that they actually want to see America weaken? That's the beatiful thing about FOX news, they get their guests to say the real off the wall bullshit, that way when anybody tries to call them on it they just go 'oh, it wasn't me! It was the guest I keep invited on.' The Phil Donahue impersonator says "If you dislike America, you're probably okay." Are you fucking kidding me? He's talking about Americans like that? He thinks that's what the Democratic party wants? Are you out of your fucking mind? Honestly, I can't even fathom how anybody can get behind that. Disagree with the policy, fine, but think that half of the country is actively trying to destory it? On another note, I wish we had some left wingers. Then we might actually get some health care, public works projects, and decent public eduation. Sure we have lefties when it comes to identity politices, but that's just a nice thing to focus on while both the Republican and Democrats all run to the bank.
I was pointing out the chanting, if you wish to deflect pointing out that it was played back on fox news feel free.
How about burning the American/Israel flag, how should we interpret that.
Nuclear power does not mean Nuclear Components that make nuclear weapons.
Are you serious, or are you trolling me? Jesus.
Okay, I'll give you that, and with the flag burning, yes I agree, that's pretty bad, and I never said Iran is a friend, but the question is whether or not, under international supervision, it is a country that can be dealt with. Not to mention, yes anti-American sentiment is a problem, but let's not pretend we aren't doing anything to provoke things - constantly questioning ourselves in public discourse "hmm... should we bomb Iran?' isn't going to make them like us and bombing a country is 'death to a lot of people,' even if it isn't said directly. The whole Bush line of 'they hate us because they hate us,' is utter bullshit. Even Ron Paul called it out and he was booed at the RNC.
I'm not going to claim to know the science - it's too late at night, and I'll check up on it and get back to you, but to my understanding the 'components' we're talking about is enriched uranium, and applicable to both civilian and military use.
Like I said, Iran obviously is trying to stretch it's sphere of influence (destabilizing Iraq certainly didn't help there), that includes into Iraq, into Yemen, and into Syria. Where I strongly disagree is the idea that 'the second Iran gets military capability it's going to use it against the US or Israel.' Basically, I think Iran can be a 'frenemy' - we don't like them, we want to keep them in check, but where international cooperation is possible (as in the case of Afghanistan in 2001 or ISIS now), we use it to our advantage.
Sorry for being so pissy, it's really the second part of that clip that got me going.
Fuck I am late.
Obama is not perfect (nobody is), but it's not who is the ruler that's important, it's how he/she rules that's important.
This guy left, and he was popular. Guaranteed it was a scandal, doesn't mean one can't happen with Obama.
Plus if you live in the UK (you do right?) this stuff you probably don't care about. Not the same over here. It alwayssss matters.
This thread is a fight waiting to happen c:
As is any thread that requires differing opinions.
I'm not American so I don't give a damn
IT'S cool brother , I can never be mad at you. I wonder how Nations like India feel about Iran getting nuclear weapons.
I always try to look at the pro's and con's of this and all I can see is just all bad if there is a portion of Iran who wants death to America then giving them nuclear weapons is wrong WTF is going to happen they will go straight for them if there is a civil war you will give isis something to attack and go for
I honestly think the less nuclear weapons the better it only takes one idiot to make a mistake they could cost millions of lifes for nuclear weapons to still exist is an absolute joke if you start letting more nations make them it will start a knock on effect till it reaches a country who will use it and abuse it
I honestly taught as I'm not from America pot meet kettle, America has lots of nuclear weapons and other countries are none of their business they can't judge if they decide they want one too.
America: STOP MAKING NUCLEAR WEAPONS
Rest of the world: But you have lots of nuclear weapons wtf
America: Shut up
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_the_United_States
But once I seen the death to America stuff I would recommend not letting Iran have control of nuclear weapons and imo the less in this world the better
I asked Obama supporters to explain why this is a good idea for America best interests.
They won't nuke America if anywhere Western Europe an ally of America.
Who are the other Presidential Candidates that we know of?
A scandal would happen regardless of public opinion, though, so this is still moot.
I do live in the UK but my husband comes originally from California so he stays informed about the USA's politics, and we also really want Hillary to be president.
Ted Cruz announced last week.
Not a big fan of her. Doesn't have the charisma that Bill had.
I'm sure some will vote for her just because she's a woman. Irks me deeply.
Cruz is a Texan senator.
Alright, I don't know much about either of these candidates. I don't think it really matters for me since I can't vote yet anyway but I honestly hope we vote for the person who will look after the country better. I can already see people wanting Hilary to show how "Progressive" we are. However if she is truly the better person for the job then I'll support her.
In a way it's like Liam Neeson: Murican made and used, No other country has the right
And it depends on someone's response to tell if I'm joking or not xD
I honestly don't understand why people will vote for someone just because of their sex or race. I think we should choose the person who will better our country.
I believe it was the 2012 presidential election polls I was reading when I saw that 92% of blacks voted for Obama. Even though I know most blacks statistically are Democrats anyway, it bothered me so much to know that some voted for him just because he was black.
No offense to African-Americans, if anyone takes it.
Yeah, it makes me upset.
To be fair, for every Black person who voted for Obama because of his race, there was more likely at least one White person who voted against Obama because of his race. So please don't act like it doesn't go both ways even if that wasn't your intent. However, I agree with you that we should be voting in people who are capable of doing the job, but unfortunately, it looks like that might not be the case from some of the candidates from either parties, at least the ones who have been confirmed to be running.
I'm fairly sure that Rand Paul, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, and Scott Walker are running. Possibly Ben Carson and Mike Huckabee. As for Democrat candidates, the only one I hear people talking about is Hilary Clinton, and if she doesn't run, Elizabeth Warren.
A few weeks ago Bernie Sanders was on Real Time, and when Maher kept talking about a potential presidential run Sanders didn't deny it and pretty much just coyly smiled, so I think he'll probably put his hat in the ring too. He's an independent who caucuses with the Democrats so I don't know how he'd run... I don't think he'd run seriously, but just try and go to the primaries to pull the other candidates to the left.
You do know Liam Neeson is Irish right?
Though that's probably what you mean by the second line.
Very true point. Let race not dictate our votes., all of us, and only the capable people running get votes.
Excellent post by the way.
Everyone, i am not sure if you are aware, but in 2008 there was a crazy guy named James Cummings who lived in maine. He was diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia, and he was in the process of building a "dirty" bomb to attack America.
The only reason why it was caught, is because he was abusive to his wife, and she ended up killing him/turning herself in. She got basically charged with zero crime, because they knew what could of happened if this device would of went off. Its a true story, Look it up.
Click here
There is a documentary about it on Youtube, i'm sure you can find out all about this disturbed case of reality. I'm more of the side of retiring all nuclear weapons, we don't need more, we need less.
You're siding with the Leprechaun!?!?!?
(Its a thing between me and Mark.....MURCIA)
Bernie Sanders? That would be interesting if he did end up running. On another note, I've also heard that Donald Trump is going to run...again.