Were older generations actually better?

edited March 2015 in General Chat

If you were born in the late 90s to 2000s you must likely have heard adults complaining that our generation is the worst generation ever and how the music, cartoons and movies of their generation were better, but do you think it's just péople being nostalgic or are the current generations actually worse than the older ones? I recently saw this video of Elders React were they react to Elvis and they tell how when they were young their parents told them that Elvis was ruining music, that his music was garbage etc. but as you might know he's one of the biggest music icons nowadays and ironically this generations is the one that now "hates" on the current music.

, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6BA6jq88xM

I persoanlly think that both generations have good and bad things, they are just different and adults are just trying to make their generation look better maybe because they miss the things of their childhood and they don't like the current ones, maybe in the future we'll be the ones complaining about the newer generations

So yeah do you think it's just people being over nostalgic or were the older generations actually better?

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  • Much. Over time past times and traditions of present day will start to sound less stupid compared to the dumb shit we'll hear in the future

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    In the words of Andy Bernard in The Office, "I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them."

    Seriously. It's true. People will look back on this generation and call them the good old days eventually too.

  • I think its just older people being annoyed by the younger people. I'm sure its just with age we grow tired of kids being stupid, even though they were probably the same way.

  • I disagree, even my parents think that this generation is better off. Sure, we are much more entitled, but we also are of the Information Age and (generally) have much more progressive views and open-minded thinking. It's just old curmudgeons ranting about something that isn't going to change.

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    Personally, yes. I think this generation has got to be the most entitled, overly sensitive, self absorbed, and lazy generation to date. Sure, not every kid from this generation is like that, but those that are unfortunately make up the majority. They don't know the meaning of hard work, of responsibility, the importance of respecting your elders and each other, of being thankful for what we already have. Kids with the aforementioned characteristics are always thinking about themselves, about wanting "more more more, gimme gimme gimme, I don't care that I didn't work for it, I deserve it because I said so". Kids like that are always angry about some bullshit "issue", as though nothing has ever been as terrible as said "issue", and for some damn reason we must start a riot over it. (aka cry about it over the internet.) Honestly, sometimes it seems as though many of these kids are secretly upset that we have it so good nowadays, so they get angry over every little thing, cry about us being "oppressed" in a first world country so they can pretend to be "the rebel fighting against The Man". Clearly, we're not oppressed, and when you tell these individuals this, they get even more upset. As if they're upset that we don't have it as bad as they say we do. Why do they want things to be so terrible? What kind of masochistic person would actually want to be oppressed? Really, they're just breeding unnecessary turmoil and ignorance by screaming over every little thing that upsets them, and that type of thinking just isn't going to help move us forward as a society at all. What's even better is the minute you call them out for their behavior, they say that's offensive and demand an apology. A lot of people seem to think they're obligated to an apology just because their feelings got hurt when news flash: nobody is. I think the main thing kids of today need to learn is to grow a thicker skin and deal with it. Not everything's about you, and life is going to suck sometimes, get over it. It's like people are raising their kids in a damn Hug Box, where the kid ends up thinking the world revolves around their feelings, and the minute they go into the real world they're shocked and angry that things aren't going to go their way. Again, I know that not every kid from this generation is like this, I know plenty that aren't in the least, and would take offense is someone said they were. But the truth is that enough kids are like this to the point where you can't just ignore them..irritating little brats.

    ..Well, this turned into a rant fast, didn't mean for that to happen. My bad. I might edit this later so it doesn't sound so hostile lol. But anyways, yes, I'm not necessarily fond of the current generation, I wholeheartedly prefer the values and mindsets of older generations. I do believe that the majority of this generation possess the line of thinking mentioned above, and that is detrimental for the future of our society. This is less significant, but I also think that the pop culture (music, movies, tv shows etc.) of past generations is well..more innovative and creative? Not to say everything sucks from this generation, to say that would be pretentious and untrue, but it's quite a lot harder to find good music that is new, especially on the radio, and not a lot of tv shows and movies are as creative and innovative as they used to be. There are far too many remakes of classics nowadays. Also, I feel it necessary to say that this is merely my opinion, and if you disagree with me, that's fine.

  • Short answer, YES

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    My generation's MTV had shows called Headbanger's Ball and Beavis & Butthead.

    You have.... Jersey Shore? :O

    But I have no clue, I try to avoid people of all ages as much as possible. :)

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    I think what was better about days before, is that for the most part, is that generally speaking people had more respect for others.
    My generation is so damned self-entitled, overly sensitive, and lazy, that it's ridiculous.
    It's downright shameful!

    So many men around my age act like they don't have to do shit, that everyone else owes them a free ride.
    And the truth is, just like the generation before, my generation has to work to be able to live.
    To be perfectly honest, I think one of the biggest problems with my generation, is that for the most part they were not disciplined enough as children.
    So many of them act like spoiled brats, that deserve a spanking.

    Now I realize that there are some who strongly disagree about spanking a child when they act out.
    They feel that it's abusive, or cruel.
    But in reality, what it helps to do is teach them respect for others.
    A couple of smacks on the butt by a belt is not going to hurt the child, but what it is going to do is reinforce the idea that they cannot speak to other however they want without reprisal, nor act however they want without consequences.

    In fact to call them men, when they show contempt for other people, is really being quite generous, because a REAL man will not act that way.
    A REAL MAN shows respect for other people, and for authority figures, even when he doesn't agree with them.
    Guys that don't do that are wannabe men, and not TRULY men.

    To all those who are in their early twenties and younger, I say this: "Learning to use good judgement and to show respect for others are the two most important things you can learn, and they will take you far in life. If you don't show the proper respect for others, you will NEVER be able to reach your full potential, nor will you be able to forge and maintain long-term relationships with others, whether they be platonic or romantic."

  • I think this generation has got to be the most entitled, overly sensitive, self absorbed, and lazy generation to date. Sure, not every kid from this generation is like that, but those that are unfortunately make up the majority. They don't know the meaning of hard work, of responsibility, the importance of respecting your elders and each other, of being thankful for what we already have. Kids with the aforementioned characteristics are always thinking about themselves, about wanting "more more more, gimme gimme gimme, I don't care that I didn't work for it, I deserve it because I said so".

    Umm.... I'll take if you haven't met any baby boomers... I know I've posted this clip before but:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Sal6N5OiE

    And this was said in the 90s about people born in the 50's and 60's by somebody born in the 30s.

    Personally, I just wish people these days could go 10 minutes without playing with their goddamn cell phones.

    Tinni posted: »

    Personally, yes. I think this generation has got to be the most entitled, overly sensitive, self absorbed, and lazy generation to date. Sure

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    I was born in the late 80s and I heard and still hear things like that. Pretty much every generation gets told that their kids have all gone to hell and that the past was so much better, and then they grow up and say the same thing to their kids. Just for a point of reference, here was a show from three years ago - what? It's almost twenty years old?!? FML... - so they're talking largely about people born in the early 80s, and it's the same thing.

    Start at around 8:30

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tco6-yP40

    That said, music from the late 90's early 00's was clearly better. Sorry, that one is simply an objective fact.

  • Music sucks now. Not the younger generation's fault though, it's the older generations that started the downward trend.

  • I do know about the Baby Boomers, and I honestly think this generation is almost as bad as they were. I suppose everyone has something negative to say about new generations, but I think my point still stands.

    I just wish people these days could go 10 minutes without playing with their goddamn cell phones.

    I definitely agree with that.

    Sarangholic posted: »

    I think this generation has got to be the most entitled, overly sensitive, self absorbed, and lazy generation to date. Sure, not every kid f

  • I definitely agree with that.

    Hold on, wait a second, did we just... did we just... agree on something?!

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    Tinni posted: »

    I do know about the Baby Boomers, and I honestly think this generation is almost as bad as they were. I suppose everyone has something negat

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    my God, I think we did..!?

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    Sarangholic posted: »

    I definitely agree with that. Hold on, wait a second, did we just... did we just... agree on something?!

  • depends on which ways. music wise fuck yes, music is garbage today except from few good ones. tv now we are living in a golden age. if we are talking about behavior yes, but then again look at the shit some of those generations believed: women are inferior to men, gays are an abomination,racism, etc. so no generation is perfect.

    but this one is fucking stupid

  • The newset generation is always "worse" than its predecessor... weird how the next generation always seems to move beyond the stupidity of the predecessor bit by bit. No, the previous generation isn't better than we are, simply different.

  • CrazyGeorgeCrazyGeorge Banned
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    I find the younger generation to be the most entitled groups of monsters since I don't know I was a kid. These kids got it so good nowadays it makes me laugh. my sister is taking her 5 year old therapy, delirious

    I think its just older people being annoyed by the younger people. I'm sure its just with age we grow tired of kids being stupid, even though they were probably the same way.

  • Anyone who doesn't show respect for others shouldn't be called an adult, whether male or female.

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    I think what was better about days before, is that for the most part, is that generally speaking people had more respect for others. My gen

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    No, it's a common psychological thing. 'It was better in the old days!!!!!'.

    It was really strongly around in ancient greece.

    People say this generation is worse, but it's the most progressive generation to ever exist on planet earth, so.

  • Saying that the older generations are better is something people have always done and will probably continue to do. They just say it because the newer generations are diffferent than the older that they were used to, but if things didn't change then everything would be much worse now. There would still be racism by almost everyone's part, homophobia, etc.

    People just have to accept that things will be different in the future, and although some aspects might change for worse, many things also change for better. In my opinion, I find it hard to agree that a generation with the most open-minded people and which have access to any information about what's happening around the world and therefore can actually change things, is the worse generation.

  • It's not better, it's just different. People may call it better or worse because it's a personal opinion or because of nostalgia.

  • objectively speaking each generation gets smarter and more civilised than the last

  • I love Manson he is such a interesting guy. Did you hear what he said about Carol LOL.

    Sarangholic posted: »

    I was born in the late 80s and I heard and still hear things like that. Pretty much every generation gets told that their kids have all gone

  • No, its you kids listening to stupid music like Justin Beaver, and uhm Miley Cirus, and whatever.

    You kids need to listen to good music, now where is my walking cane...

    This is the kind of music i listen to. Its my THEME SONG, without being brought back that is.

    Music sucks now. Not the younger generation's fault though, it's the older generations that started the downward trend.

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    Tldr: If you don't have any compatible traits with a group, but you want to join it because you think you're entitled to, you're wrong.

    I guess it depends on the area you live in when it comes to the Baby Boomers, because this generation is being raised by the tail end of the Baby Boomer generation, and around me the Baby Boomers are hard working, and family oriented. Be they farmers, carpenters, construction workers, lab workers, you name it. There are some duds, but on the whole, in the area I live, they are very respectable people. I guess they just all sucked at raising kids though, because my generation (ours), is all of the things you guys have been saying in this thread. I find that most people in my age group (early 20's) have absolutely no respect for anything other than their own whims. I see so many people screaming at their parents over trivial shit, and overall just a very high sense of entitlement.

    At the same time though, that sense of entitlement is just the world we live in. A lot of our generation is still going to college, working multiple jobs, and preparing for the future, but entitlement is the rule of the day. A good example is, universities are passing rules that state that you don't have to be a Christian to be the leader of the Christian clubs. Everyone feels that by virtue of being born that they are entitled to be a part of everything. There can be no private clubs, and no private groups. People complain about the NFL not allowing women players, people complain about metal heads not being inclusive, they pull the race card whenever convenient, etc etc etc.

    Honestly, if people want to be a part of a group so bad I think they should make their own. I am 100% against the idea that being born gives you access to every group. If you want to be a part of a group then you should meet the group's requirements for entry. If people think that fans of metal don't want people that don't even listen to the music to be a part of their community, then they should find a community that they are more compatible with. Maybe one whose music they actually listen to and enjoy? If you're not a Christian, you have no right to lord over a group of Christians in a club that discusses Christianity. That club might be open to non-Christian members, for the sake of debate, but their leader should ultimately reflect the ideals of the group, and that decision should be their choice. If you're a woman and you want to play football, group together with other women, start a crowdfunding campaign, ask for donations, and start your own football league.

    That's not how it is though, because everyone is entitled to be apart of any group they see fit, even if the only reason they want to join certain groups is nothing more than a sense of entitlement, and has nothing to do with being compatible with the community. There are many groups I'm not compatible with, for example, fans of comic books. I don't like comic books, and I don't barge into their stores or conventions and demand they give me attention because I'm entitled to be a part of their club, despite my lack of interest in the subject matter.

    I'm sure someone will take this here, so I'll cover it in my post. I don't mean this as a racist and a sexist thing, it's universally discriminatory. A black only group should not be forced to allow white people in. A female only group shouldn't have to let males become members. People that listen to pop don't belong in a group of classical music enthusiasts.

    This applies to private recreational groups. Groups that are solely for entertainment, like music and sports. Things that actually matter to the course of a country's growth and development are different, because every citizen within a country makes up the societal group. Women should be allowed to take part in the military, the government, and the job market; as should anyone who is a part of that country.

    Thoughts?

    Tinni posted: »

    I do know about the Baby Boomers, and I honestly think this generation is almost as bad as they were. I suppose everyone has something negat

  • That said, music from the late 90's early 00's was clearly better. Sorry, that one is simply an objective fact.

    It's a subjective opinion. The only decent bands to come out of the late 90's are Godsmack and Sabaton. All of my favorite bands formed in the 80's. As an addendum though, hair metal is garbage.

    Sarangholic posted: »

    I was born in the late 80s and I heard and still hear things like that. Pretty much every generation gets told that their kids have all gone

  • People say this generation is worse, but it's the most progressive generation to ever exist on planet earth, so.

    So it's worse, you answered your own question.

    Flog61 posted: »

    No, it's a common psychological thing. 'It was better in the old days!!!!!'. It was really strongly around in ancient greece. People say this generation is worse, but it's the most progressive generation to ever exist on planet earth, so.

  • People say this generation is worse, but it's the most progressive generation to ever exist on planet earth, so.

    Not an actual achievement, however.

    Flog61 posted: »

    No, it's a common psychological thing. 'It was better in the old days!!!!!'. It was really strongly around in ancient greece. People say this generation is worse, but it's the most progressive generation to ever exist on planet earth, so.

  • I'm certain it has nothing to do with observation.

    FauDeef posted: »

    It's not better, it's just different. People may call it better or worse because it's a personal opinion or because of nostalgia.

  • Personally, I cannot stand Justin Beiber!
    I've never listened to his music once in my life, so it's not that.
    What I hate about him, is his cocky and disrespectful attitude.

    When he got arrested, shortly before he got thrown out of California, if I had been the judge; I'd have given him community service.
    You know, make him pick trash up outta the park, remove the graffiti off the buildings.
    Or, and I don't know if this could legally be done, but if I were a judge and he got put in my court for the things he did, I'd have ordered that his assets be frozen, and that he'd be forced to get an actual job, like at McDonald's or something.
    In other words, sentence him to real life.

    Let him get a dose of what it's like to work for a living, and just how hard it is.
    Hopefully it would prove a humbling experience for him.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    No, its you kids listening to stupid music like Justin Beaver, and uhm Miley Cirus, and whatever. You kids need to listen to good music,

  • That said, music from the late 90's early 00's was clearly better. Sorry, that one is simply an objective fact.

    That statement is surprisingly arrogant.

    Sarangholic posted: »

    I was born in the late 80s and I heard and still hear things like that. Pretty much every generation gets told that their kids have all gone

  • I like the community service idea. As for freezing his assets, I doubt that would be legal. Also, he would just be getting a dose of working class "real" life. His "real" life is exactly what he's doing, and so long as he maintains the wealth, he will maintain the lifestyle.

    That's not to say that I disagree with you, because I don't. That's just the product of class and wealth differences. The working class version of real life is not even comparable with the "real" life his wealth allows him. He's an icon, despite his antics or his attitude.

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    Personally, I cannot stand Justin Beiber! I've never listened to his music once in my life, so it's not that. What I hate about him, is hi

  • I'm pretty sure we're about the same age. And isn't David Allan Coe that racist guy that Howard Stern used to play on his old show?

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    No, its you kids listening to stupid music like Justin Beaver, and uhm Miley Cirus, and whatever. You kids need to listen to good music,

  • One of my favorite songs is: "Lonesome, On'ry and Mean"- by Waylon Jennings.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    No, its you kids listening to stupid music like Justin Beaver, and uhm Miley Cirus, and whatever. You kids need to listen to good music,

  • depends in some areas it was better, in some it wasn't majority of the time it's just the parents being nostalgic i'm sure your grand parents said the same thing about your parent's generation

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    It's also completely facetious. I'm just joking because that's what I grew up with.

    Lingvort posted: »

    That said, music from the late 90's early 00's was clearly better. Sorry, that one is simply an objective fact. That statement is surprisingly arrogant.

  • You think less racism, sexism and homophobia is a bad thing?

    People say this generation is worse, but it's the most progressive generation to ever exist on planet earth, so. So it's worse, you answered your own question.

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    Becoming significantly less racist is an achievement isn't it?

    Lingvort posted: »

    People say this generation is worse, but it's the most progressive generation to ever exist on planet earth, so. Not an actual achievement, however.

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    I'm know it's subjective, I'm just joking because it's what I grew up with. I still say Cold's first album was really great. I also liked the brief Pop Goth Rock you had during the period (Evanescence, Lacuna Coil). Jw,what do you think about Industrial? Bands like Rammstein, KMFDM... Though I agree 80s metal is awesome.

    Honestly, I listen to a lot of Korean music so I'm mostly referring to that. As far as I'm concerned, the Kpop I liked died around 2008.

    That said, music from the late 90's early 00's was clearly better. Sorry, that one is simply an objective fact. It's a subjective op

  • its allways been the same you often here people say bullshit like "you never had to lock your doors" or "the kids could play out all day without fear" thats complete crap there have allways been burglars and pedophiles its just no one spoke about it. Rape and fear is as much part of british history as kings and queens. Look at how native americans were treated or black people or even people of different creeds, we live in an age with more tolerance and medicine than ever before we are lucky to be alive now.

    Everything was shit in the good old days

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