Kenny or jane
Am I the only one that went with jane but went back to go with Kenny right after because what jane did. I liked jane until episode four she definitely changed. How could you stand someone like jane for 1 minute!!! She is the most annoying person ever
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Neither, I can't stand either of them, I honestly think they were both more of a child then Clementine was.
True but Kenny still is better than jane
Kenny and his beard are the best.
I agree with James
Clem: Fuck this I will leave the fighting to both of you. Come to me after you resolve this like mature adults
Jane.
Both unlikable characters stuck in an end conflict I wanted nothing to do with. The second Jane put her feet on the dash board. I literally said "Really, this is the level it's stooped to?"
I picked Kenny. Kenny was a protector, he is only trying to protect what he loves. And he loves Clem an AJ. So when she pretended to kill AJ I didnt blame Kenny at all. And I was always nice to Kenny so I never ran into a bad side of Kenny like so many players say they have. Kenny has always been nice to Clem and Lee. He was Lees best friend and to me Clems second protector. He took a radio from my hand and took blame for it. He also told Welington to only take Clem and AJ. So to me its me and Kenny to the end #TeamKenny
The first time I thought: "Oh Kenny went totally insane for something Jane couldn't do anything about." Because I thought a walker got to AJ and she had to leave him behind. So I shot Kenny to save her because I actually liked her survival instinct and she actually cared about Clem (she was the only one who freaked out because Clem was freezing to death). And when I heard AJ, I was so happy that he survived and almost cried when Clem was beyond happy to see him. But then it hit me; Kenny died for nothing. I shouldn't have shot him AT ALL. And at that moment I was so fucking furious at Jane and chose all the dialogue that could express a small part of my anger and left that ho to fend for herself. Then I went back to go with Kenny and stayed at Wellington because I wanted a safe place for Clem and AJ and Kenny's emotional stage would never be stable, he could snap and do something horrible to Clem. I wanted Clem to be somewhat of a child again and reaching Wellington was Kenny's goal anyway so it would be logical to stay at Wellington. Otherwise all of the people that died to get to Wellington died for nothing. So yeah... Kinda chose for Kenny but also not??
I picked Kenny. Jane is the biggest bitch I've ever seen in the entire game. She got Sarah killed, she tried to convince me to leave the group and manipulated me to show how reckless Kenny is. I HAD NO REGRETS. SHE DESERVED TO DIE!!!!
Kenny. he was right. Jane Put AJ in danger and just to show Kenny is a MadMan which is worthless crap that she ever done. Jane didn't know how much Kenny went through, got his family killed, his girlfriend died, always getting beaten. And now people are asking what the fuck happened to Kenny.
Had I known that I didn't have to chose either, I would have chose neither. Both are selfish and dangerous individuals who did nothing but cause the downfall of their own group due to acting like children and refusing to learn how to cooperate with each other without throwing tantrums.
I ended up choosing Jane over Kenny to stop a needless murder from happening, but I still want nothing to do with her for instigating the events, even if she was right about Kenny's instability and his lack of self-control.
Jane was the best part of Season 2.
No
I picked Kenny, but it was a very difficult choice since I had grown to love both characters, but I'm glad I chose Kenny in the end.
Kenny without a second thought.
Jane was a hollow women. She would lie to people who were close to her so that she could have leverage over everyone else in the group. She also constantly went on about how the group was falling apart right after Kenny had lost Sarita ... I mean obviously Kenny is going to be angry but he is still the most loyal to Clementine and he would do anything to protect Clem and AJ.
Oh look, another one of these threads.
I hoped we were over this.
Jane, I don't really like Kenny much, his personality just irritates me.
YUP.
Nope
Jane knew Kenny's plan to find Wellington in the freezing winter wilderness with a starving baby and just one gun made no sense. If you're going for realism the Kenny endings are a sham because there's no way you can find a camp when you have no idea what state of the U.S. the camp is even in, and Kenny indeed had no idea where it was exactly. (He said it was "near Michigan," not "in Michigan.") That's a few hundred thousand square miles they'd have to search to find it--just a wild goose chase, stumbling around in the dark, with a starving kid, a starving baby, all in the middle of winter. If the writers wanted to go for realism, Kenny, AJ, and Clem should've been starving and barely able to walk by the time they found Wellington, if they had even been able to find it at all before freezing to death. If you were going for REALISM, Kenny, AJ, and Clem would be DEAD in Kenny's endings.
Jane suggested Howe's because it was the nearest shelter they knew of (it was the only shelter whose location they knew, compared to Wellington) that had food and even baby formula. Jane knew Kenny was leading Clem and AJ to their deaths and Jane was trying to stop that. She wanted Kenny to leave their group, not kill him, and only tried to kill him when he would not leave. She knew if Kenny didn't leave the group that he would continue his suicide mission to find Wellington, not listening to what anyone else had to say on the best place to go. Hence why she staged the stupid baby-hiding plan, and hence why I will never go with Kenny. Ever.
OMG, you don't know what happened in 9 days, they must have found a place where there was a little food. If true, then with Jane, she, Clem and Aj would be dead too.
Lol nope. It should've taken way, way, WAYYYYYYY longer than 9 days for Kenny to find Wellington, when he had no flipping clue where it was. Do you have any idea how big Michigan is? About 100,000 square miles. Do you realize how long it takes to travel through that much amount of land on foot with a baby, while avoiding rivers and walkers and freezing to death? Months and months, at the very least. And that's not even counting traveling around the Great Lakes to get to the Canada side of Michigan, and that's not even counting the other states they'd have to search to find Wellington (which should double or triple that time), since Wellington isn't "in" Michigan, it's "near" Michigan. Logically the closer choice would've been Howe's, which Jane said they could've gotten back to in about a day with a car. The fact that they got to Howe's in the same amount of time they got to Wellington makes me laugh so hard it's not even funny.
And the longer they're out there, the more chances they have of dying.
No, it took 9 days to reach Jane's destination, it was no close.
The conflict between Kenny and Jane almost ruined all of season 2 in my opinion. Watching them both fight is like watching a episode of "The Real Housewives of North Carolina"
Excellent post. You nailed it on the head with why Kenny's plan, by all logic and reasonable realism in a story, was extremely flawed and ran on nothing but pure speculation and luck.
Wellington being real all along in spite of having no proof of its existence, and the three having found the community with no sense of direction or resources in just over a week is a major cop-out. It's no wonder why Kenny's endings felt pretentious, cliché, and less natural compared to Jane's endings.
I said
C'mon, man. Read.
And fine. I dug up some math I did from a post I made ages ago.
Nope. I knew what she was doing as soon as she said Clem's gotta trust her. I don't really like how she did what she did, but I get why.
So Kenny, AJ, and Clementine just so happened to find Wellington in just nine days on foot when any other person would have likely took nearly a year to find the place with no guidepost, no vehicle, and no tip-offs?
That is just pushing our willing suspension of disbelief way too hard. And all of this would have been fixed had there been a montage of the three finding a working vehicle, finding posters advertising Wellington, and meeting up with people who are happy to point the way, and have them finally reach the place.
Instead, we get a 9 day time-skip that explains nothing about what they did just after Kenny killing Jane.
Neither.
I would rather eat my own eyes than stay with Kenny another moment, so i shot him. But i wouldn't stay with jane either after that manipulation of events.
I also thought the Kenny v. Jane stuff was put to bed, but i guess some things never die.
I appreciate your comment man (and thanks for the compliment before), but ugh, I think adding all of that on top of the saccharine sunshiney-sappiness that was Kenny's endings would've been too much for any player to swallow. Adding all those details changes Kenny's endings from nonrealistic sappy TWD ending to a Disney cartoon ending where Kenny, Clem, and AJ break into song, singing, "Zippidy-doo-da, zippidy-ay! Look how everything is going our wayyy!" >.> Give me a break. Kenny's gotta get unlucky, real unlucky sometimes, don't ya think?
We tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it didn't even matter...
Went with Jane, I hate Kenny.
Yeah, in hindsight that would have been a bad idea, but it's better than the lack of explanation of how the three even managed to find the place by sheer dumb luck.
Actually I think it would've made more sense if there had been some Wellingtonian-scouts/scavengers that had found Clem, Kenny, and AJ, instead of Kenny etc. finding Wellington (and they'd have to find them before they died too >_>). Scouts could've been out dozens or hundreds of miles from Wellington and come across Kenny and them, and they could be several scavenging groups out at a time. But oh whoops, Kenny might just muck that situation up before he even realizes the scouts are from Wellington, and who knows where that situation might go.
:ahem: Anyway, I'll drop the sarcastic tone now. You've made some good points on this thread, dude. Nice.
Well,that choice alone is actually a sign that you're still maintaining your rationality,regardless of what you think later.
I still think the whole "9 days later" slide was unnecessary as it is
It has no impact on any of the endings, and since it's treated as such a minor passage of time by the narrative, I don't see why it needs to be pointed out
The "3 months later" in Starved For Help had a purpose being there, and was passage of time had a very obvious impact on the group that was worth mentioning/acknowledging (inclusion of a new survivor, the fortification of the motor inn, the lack of food, etc).
The "16 months later" in All That Remains had a purpose being there, was a passage of time that had tremendous mental and physical impacts on both characters, and since it was a major passage of time (over a year long) it made sense for it to be established
The ~1 week timeskip in between Starved For Help and Long Road Ahead didn't really need to be pointed out, because it wasn't an overly important detail at that point in the story, nor did that passage of time have any major visible impacts to the group on a wide scale. To compensate, they acknowledged a passage of time in much more subtle and natural ways (the RV has been fixed, bandit arrows and bullet holes littering the motel, Macon being demolished, and the more subtle dialogue indicating the passage of time: Kenny and Lee talking about what is left in the Drugstore, Kenny talking about having Ben on watch 'again', etc)
Bottom line being: an "X days/weeks/months/years later" slide should only be shown if it's actually worth pointing out. If it's a small amount of time, or an amount of time that didn't have much of an impact on anyone involved in it, it doesn't need to be given any special attention or be treated as anything more.
Speaking of which, the "9 days later" slide alone isn't the only problem; there's also the lack of clues about a passing of time altogether. Like you said, signs of Clementine, Kenny and AJ being weak would make sense, or just having them change clothes or outfits, even if only slightly. Jane endings don't have much signs of passing time, either.
The way the endings are presented, they could just as easily be taking place 2 hours later instead of 9 days.