What I meant is that Obama isn't a W.A.S.P, like every other present besides Kennedy.
I'll admit I was a bit rude, but it IS completely ridiculous to attribute all of Obama's electoral success to his skin tone.
Trump is 1% Policy, 99% rhetoric and hot air. He's barely fit to give a speech, let alone run a country. I'm also surprised that you, as a veteran, would support a draft dodger who heavily implied that he thinks POW's are cowards.
Don't get me started on Vets, A Vet kills himself every 44 minutes i think it is, because of the PTSD they got while serving, Obama hasn't been helping them. We lost more people to suicide than we did to the war. Its the silent war we been fighting since we came back, no one will understand what its like until you experience it for yourself.
Firstly, The Russian Federation and Iran have not had good relations towards the US for the better part of the last fifty years (close to 10… more0 in Russia's case). However, the relations between the US and its allies (e.g. us) have improved considerably while he has been in office.
Secondly, I would hazard to guess that you believe him to be a weak politician because he uses diplomacy instead of shows of aggression? Modern politics live off diplomacy. You simply cannot walk about showing off your power and demanding respect like a dictator, as it will make your image look bad, and thus taint your allies out of association. Your allies would leave you one by one.
Speaking of dictators, while I would not go so far as call Putin a dictator, he has so much more power over the Federal Assembly
than all other US presidents ever had over Congress. He has more room and strength of which to exercise with within his country.
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I'll admit I was a bit rude, but it IS completely ridiculous to attribute all of Obama's electoral success to his skin tone.
What was his 2008 Platform?
I've made my views on the death penalty known on here before. I just don't think it works as a deterrent, in most cases. Although if a person is past the point of rehabilitation, then I think death by lethal injection would be justified. Saves a lot of people from suffering.
I think you're a bit misinformed on the meaning of the word castration, which involves removing a man's testicles. This would prevent pregnancy, but not the crime of rape itself. Although I think that the point someone else made on another thread is worth considering, that a rapist should choose between castration (or removal of the entire penis) or being put on the sex offender's register.
I completely agree. If the jobs aren't going to law-abiding citizens, then we should give them to thieves. I think a reward system should also be considered too, since it could give criminals a reason to get a job and obey the laws once they leave prison.
Can't find anything to complain about here. It sucks that our soldiers and veterans get worse treatment than criminals in a lot of cases.
I'm surprised lie-detector tests aren't already used as evidence. Especially in rape cases. Granted, they aren't 100% accurate, but it would certainly go a long way in cases of rape where it is one person's word vs someone else's word.
I see what you're getting at by this, but I can see a lot of potential problems arising from it. For instance, you could have a man and woman who just don't like each other at all in custody of children, which probably isn't the best environment for kids to be in. And if the parents don't care about the kids at all, then that's even worse. I think that having legal guardians who care about the child would be better than pairing them with biological parents who may not love them at all. When they're older and more mature, they should be allowed to seek out their biological parents if they wish too, in my opinion.
Personally, I think both sides in the abortion debate have valid points, but I also think it really comes down to personal opinion on the issue. So I don't even bother getting involved with abortion now. But I do think that we should be appreciative of women who go through with childbirth.
Had to look this one up, since I don't follow American politics very much. I'll admit, it sucks that we have to send illegal immigrants who are just trying to feed their families back across the border, but I think it's important to take care of your own people first before helping other countries. That being said, I think that an immigrant can contribute to society, then we should give them the chance to do so.
I'm not anti-gun, and I don't agree with just banning guns because of a few nutcases who get a hold of them. But I think we should take steps to ensure that responsible people are the ones with guns. I think someone who has a recent or frequent history of mental illness or violent tendencies shouldn't be allowed that kind of responsibility, not unless they can prove themselves responsible enough.
Had to look this one up as well. I agree 100% that a defendant should have the same rights as any innocent person, if innocent until guilty truly holds relevance today.
About a year ago, I would probably have disagreed with you, but I think that forcing people to go against their beliefs is nothing more than an illusion of tolerance, a total lie. We should let people just be honest with one-another, regardless of if another person finds it insulting.
I think you're 100% right. These people volunteered to go through hell for us, and deserve our respect and gratitude.
Thread: What kind of changes would you like to see in our Justice system?
I'd like to see:
1- The crimes of Rape and Murder be punis… morehable by death.
As well as the crime of dealing Crack, Meth, Heroin, as many of the people who deal those drugs often target children.
2 - The crime of child molestation be punished by castration.
It would prevent a possible re-offense by the offending party, as well as send a very strong and clear message that there are severe consequences for this type of heinous crime.
We as a society say we hate child molesters?
Then let's act like it!
3 - For the crime of theft, I'd like to see the thieves be sentenced to hard labor, doing different jobs for the community, much like the chain-gangs use to do back in the day.
Why should they be allowed to sit on their butt in jail and do nothing, after they stole from an average working citizen?
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Prisoners who know bloody well that they were doing something wrong and do it anyway for selfish reasons ought to be giving back to society. Prisoners who break the law because they genuinely can't provide for themselves or their family and commit a crime for their survival, well we should just help them get back on their feet and give them a chance to make something of themselves.
But what if the person was raped and doesn't want to get married, or way simpler; they just don't feel like it. How would it be good for the… more kid if they don't want to be together? It seems like a recipe for disaster.
Also shouldn't prisoners be helped and taken care of instead of treated like dogs in cages. The purpose of jail is rehabilitation just as much as it is protecting other citizens.
Also it seems kind of edgy to cut someone's prick off because they raped. We should just cut someone's hands off if they assault someone. Dismemberment is barbaric.
That's because the jail system in America is fucked up, and they treat prisoners like shit. If they emphasised helping instead of restrainin… moreg, criminals would start getting better. There are countries that pulled it off.
Both are barbaric, but because someone was barbaric doesn't mean you have to be barbaric to him and cut his dick off. That's why we have jails.
And it's in those cases that I think putting them down is justified. Saves a lot of people, including the felon, from a great deal of unnecessary suffering.
No argument here, I can't even imagine it. One gruesome death was more than enough to last me a lifetime.
People's memories are too short when it comes to vets. You can take the soldier out of the war, but it's almost impossible to take the war out of the soldier.
Trump is 1% Policy, 99% rhetoric and hot air. He's barely fit to give a speech, let alone run a country. I'm also surprised that you, as a v… moreeteran, would support a draft dodger who heavily implied that he thinks POW's are cowards.
Don't get me started on Vets, A Vet kills himself every 44 minutes i think it is, because of the PTSD they got while serving, Obama hasn't been helping them. We lost more people to suicide than we did to the war. Its the silent war we been fighting since we came back, no one will understand what its like until you experience it for yourself.
You make some good/bad points.
I agree, abortion should be outlawed. It's messed up to murder a child, and there is no way to justify it.… more Also, on the case of Rape, just set the child for adoption, better than killing it.
Shotgun marriage? I'm honestly conflicted on that. The people should raise that child, but I also think that adoption may be the better option. Though, if you fuck up, you fuck up. People should live with that, instead of setting it away as if it was nothing.
And Child Molesters? I say they should get the death sentence.
I feel like the making a prisoner work should be a option for the prisoner, because some people just can't handle working for a long while. Granted, I'd work just to help my country.
This world, so confusing.
I must admit, I admire the way you presented your case.
Unlike some users on here who try to defend their stance on something and end up resorting to childish behavior like name calling and outright belligerence, you have stated your case with clarity, and with dignity.
You have maintained your dignity, even though you do not agree with everything I said.
And you have shown, I would say, uncommon level of respect and civility in your reply.
Good Job!
One thing I will say about your comments about the gun issue, how exactly do you determine who's going to be responsible with it?
Just because someone doesn't have a record, doesn't mean that they are responsible, or mature enough to own a gun.
* I've made my views on the death penalty known on here before. I just don't think it works as a deterrent, in most cases. Although if a per… moreson is past the point of rehabilitation, then I think death by lethal injection would be justified. Saves a lot of people from suffering.
* I think you're a bit misinformed on the meaning of the word castration, which involves removing a man's testicles. This would prevent pregnancy, but not the crime of rape itself. Although I think that the point someone else made on another thread is worth considering, that a rapist should choose between castration (or removal of the entire penis) or being put on the sex offender's register.
* I completely agree. If the jobs aren't going to law-abiding citizens, then we should give them to thieves. I think a reward system should also be considered too, since it could give criminals a reason to get a job and obey the laws once they leave prison.
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When you mentioned Shotgun wedding, and just giving the kid up for adoption.
But look at how many kids grow up in orphanages, who never get to know what it's like to have a family.
That's why I think it's better to make these lazy deadbeats own up to the responsibility that they created, whether they want to or not.
Part of adult life is doing what you know needs to be done, even if you don't want to do it.
In fact, the simple truth about being an adult is is that it doesn't matter what you like, or what you would want to do, when there is something that needs to be done.
A REAL MAN does what needs to be done, even when he'd rather not do it!
You make some good/bad points.
I agree, abortion should be outlawed. It's messed up to murder a child, and there is no way to justify it.… more Also, on the case of Rape, just set the child for adoption, better than killing it.
Shotgun marriage? I'm honestly conflicted on that. The people should raise that child, but I also think that adoption may be the better option. Though, if you fuck up, you fuck up. People should live with that, instead of setting it away as if it was nothing.
And Child Molesters? I say they should get the death sentence.
I feel like the making a prisoner work should be a option for the prisoner, because some people just can't handle working for a long while. Granted, I'd work just to help my country.
This world, so confusing.
Also very true, but I think it's a risk worth taking. Granted, I live in Australia, where heavy restrictions were placed on guns in 1995, and now our rate of gun homicides is lower and we haven't had a massacre since Port Arthur. Also I will admit that we can't really know if the same thing would work in America, since guns aren't the only or even the biggest factor in violent crime.
I will thank you, though. I think it really is childish to try and discredit someone who disagrees with you. Take, for example, Anita Sarkeesian, who you might have heard of before. She's frequently made claims that game developers deliberately use female stereotypes and dis-empower female characters to pander to a straight male audience. But if you watch her videos and the examples she uses, you'll find that many of these games are from the 80's and 90's, or are open to interpretation. What makes me shake my head more though is how she treats critics. Granted, random insults and death threats are disgusting and wrong, but she makes no real distinction between baseless insults and actual valid counter-arguments. For example:
Now I don't know two guys on the top-right and bottom-left, but I do recognize the others. AlphaOmegaSin (bottom-right) swears quite a lot in his videos, but raises some very good points. And MrRepzion (top-left) is usually quite calm and civil in his videos, while making some very reasonable arguments and accepting those moments where Anita makes a valid point. But Anita paints them as the exact same type of people: angry youtubers with no valid counter-arguments.
You can tell by the fact that she never debates with any opposition, blocks comments on Youtube, and paints her critics in a negative light, that she knows that her whole thing won't hold up if people publicly question her statements. Hell, many video responses destroy her points within minutes. I think insulting and silencing opposition are both equally childish and work to prevent any real discussion.
I've criticized her a lot here, and I'll probably get told on here that I'm just helping her stay relevant by talking about her, but she's a good example of how some people will just try to attack anyone with a different opinion.
Hopefully, I'll be able to maintain my behavior on Youtube as well. Both my parents have been open to the idea of me starting a channel, and hopefully I'll be good to go in the next couple of weeks. I know that being even remotely well known will result in hate, and I'm confident that I can handle it well. I don't plan on disabling or deleted comments, since I think being a public figure means being open to criticism.
I must admit, I admire the way you presented your case.
Unlike some users on here who try to defend their stance on something and end up re… moresorting to childish behavior like name calling and outright belligerence, you have stated your case with clarity, and with dignity.
You have maintained your dignity, even though you do not agree with everything I said.
And you have shown, I would say, uncommon level of respect and civility in your reply.
Good Job!
One thing I will say about your comments about the gun issue, how exactly do you determine who's going to be responsible with it?
Just because someone doesn't have a record, doesn't mean that they are responsible, or mature enough to own a gun.
When you mentioned Shotgun wedding, and just giving the kid up for adoption.
But look at how many kids grow up in orphanages, who never get… more to know what it's like to have a family.
That's why I think it's better to make these lazy deadbeats own up to the responsibility that they created, whether they want to or not.
Part of adult life is doing what you know needs to be done, even if you don't want to do it.
In fact, the simple truth about being an adult is is that it doesn't matter what you like, or what you would want to do, when there is something that needs to be done.
A REAL MAN does what needs to be done, even when he'd rather not do it!
I'm not a YouTuber, really.
I watch things on YouTube from time-to-time, but they're mainly music videos, like concerts and alike, so in all honesty, I really am not familiar with the folks you mentioned.
However, I do understand where you are coming from.
Since you mentioned it indirectly, I must say that when it comes to the videogame industry, I think needs to be held to a higher standard, as far as what it portrays in videogames.
In many ways, I think videogames go overboard with the amount of violence and gore that they feature.
Also very true, but I think it's a risk worth taking. Granted, I live in Australia, where heavy restrictions were placed on guns in 1995, an… mored now our rate of gun homicides is lower and we haven't had a massacre since Port Arthur. Also I will admit that we can't really know if the same thing would work in America, since guns aren't the only or even the biggest factor in violent crime.
I will thank you, though. I think it really is childish to try and discredit someone who disagrees with you. Take, for example, Anita Sarkeesian, who you might have heard of before. She's frequently made claims that game developers deliberately use female stereotypes and dis-empower female characters to pander to a straight male audience. But if you watch her videos and the examples she uses, you'll find that many of these games are from the 80's and 90's, or are open to interpretation. What makes me shake my head more though is how she treats critics. Granted… [view original content]
That's a fair point, and I think it would be nice if game developers explored other types of games. Sadly, big developers are more concerned with making something that will sell rather than putting the heart into a game. I've been spending more time on my PS1 than my Xbox One lately. Games aren't as creative as they used to be, and that sucks.
Personally, I think violence in games is okay if it's put into context, or I just overlook it and focus on the game's merits. Even though I love to poke fun at Call of Duty, I love the competitive nature of it.
As for children getting their hands on games, I think there should definitely be more restrictions in that area. It would be a good idea for consoles to have parental control (which most consoles do already) and it should be easy to see what games your child is playing.
As for standards, I think that gaming industry should be treated no different than any other form of media. If TV and films can depict rape, then why can't video games? I would understand if the game outright endorses it and has you take part in it, but those games usually never sell well enough for copies to be made.
I'm not a YouTuber, really.
I watch things on YouTube from time-to-time, but they're mainly music videos, like concerts and alike, so in al… morel honesty, I really am not familiar with the folks you mentioned.
However, I do understand where you are coming from.
Since you mentioned it indirectly, I must say that when it comes to the videogame industry, I think needs to be held to a higher standard, as far as what it portrays in videogames.
In many ways, I think videogames go overboard with the amount of violence and gore that they feature.
No argument here, I can't even imagine it. One gruesome death was more than enough to last me a lifetime.
People's memories are too shor… moret when it comes to vets. You can take the soldier out of the war, but it's almost impossible to take the war out of the soldier.
Don't forget the dismemberment and executions. @Kenny/Lee, you seem like a pretty smart guy and I'm not trying to be a jerk to you, but your ideas represent a regression into moralist tyranny that I find quite disturbing.
America had a lot of these practices before, but we got rid of them for a reason. They were cruel or ineffective, sometimes both. Traditional American values aren't inherently good American values.
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What was his 2008 Platform?
Don't get me started on Vets, A Vet kills himself every 44 minutes i think it is, because of the PTSD they got while serving, Obama hasn't been helping them. We lost more people to suicide than we did to the war. Its the silent war we been fighting since we came back, no one will understand what its like until you experience it for yourself.
Fixing the economy, getting out of Iraq, closing Gitmo, universal healthcare, etc, etc, etc.
I've made my views on the death penalty known on here before. I just don't think it works as a deterrent, in most cases. Although if a person is past the point of rehabilitation, then I think death by lethal injection would be justified. Saves a lot of people from suffering.
I think you're a bit misinformed on the meaning of the word castration, which involves removing a man's testicles. This would prevent pregnancy, but not the crime of rape itself. Although I think that the point someone else made on another thread is worth considering, that a rapist should choose between castration (or removal of the entire penis) or being put on the sex offender's register.
I completely agree. If the jobs aren't going to law-abiding citizens, then we should give them to thieves. I think a reward system should also be considered too, since it could give criminals a reason to get a job and obey the laws once they leave prison.
Can't find anything to complain about here. It sucks that our soldiers and veterans get worse treatment than criminals in a lot of cases.
I'm surprised lie-detector tests aren't already used as evidence. Especially in rape cases. Granted, they aren't 100% accurate, but it would certainly go a long way in cases of rape where it is one person's word vs someone else's word.
I see what you're getting at by this, but I can see a lot of potential problems arising from it. For instance, you could have a man and woman who just don't like each other at all in custody of children, which probably isn't the best environment for kids to be in. And if the parents don't care about the kids at all, then that's even worse. I think that having legal guardians who care about the child would be better than pairing them with biological parents who may not love them at all. When they're older and more mature, they should be allowed to seek out their biological parents if they wish too, in my opinion.
Personally, I think both sides in the abortion debate have valid points, but I also think it really comes down to personal opinion on the issue. So I don't even bother getting involved with abortion now. But I do think that we should be appreciative of women who go through with childbirth.
Had to look this one up, since I don't follow American politics very much. I'll admit, it sucks that we have to send illegal immigrants who are just trying to feed their families back across the border, but I think it's important to take care of your own people first before helping other countries. That being said, I think that an immigrant can contribute to society, then we should give them the chance to do so.
I'm not anti-gun, and I don't agree with just banning guns because of a few nutcases who get a hold of them. But I think we should take steps to ensure that responsible people are the ones with guns. I think someone who has a recent or frequent history of mental illness or violent tendencies shouldn't be allowed that kind of responsibility, not unless they can prove themselves responsible enough.
Had to look this one up as well. I agree 100% that a defendant should have the same rights as any innocent person, if innocent until guilty truly holds relevance today.
About a year ago, I would probably have disagreed with you, but I think that forcing people to go against their beliefs is nothing more than an illusion of tolerance, a total lie. We should let people just be honest with one-another, regardless of if another person finds it insulting.
I think you're 100% right. These people volunteered to go through hell for us, and deserve our respect and gratitude.
Prisoners who know bloody well that they were doing something wrong and do it anyway for selfish reasons ought to be giving back to society. Prisoners who break the law because they genuinely can't provide for themselves or their family and commit a crime for their survival, well we should just help them get back on their feet and give them a chance to make something of themselves.
Unless I'm very mistaken, doesn't castration involved removing the testicles and not the entire penis?
And it's in those cases that I think putting them down is justified. Saves a lot of people, including the felon, from a great deal of unnecessary suffering.
No argument here, I can't even imagine it. One gruesome death was more than enough to last me a lifetime.
People's memories are too short when it comes to vets. You can take the soldier out of the war, but it's almost impossible to take the war out of the soldier.
Because pregnancy and birth is just a whatever for women and not a long, tedious and painful process.
I must admit, I admire the way you presented your case.
Unlike some users on here who try to defend their stance on something and end up resorting to childish behavior like name calling and outright belligerence, you have stated your case with clarity, and with dignity.
You have maintained your dignity, even though you do not agree with everything I said.
And you have shown, I would say, uncommon level of respect and civility in your reply.
Good Job!
One thing I will say about your comments about the gun issue, how exactly do you determine who's going to be responsible with it?
Just because someone doesn't have a record, doesn't mean that they are responsible, or mature enough to own a gun.
When you mentioned Shotgun wedding, and just giving the kid up for adoption.
But look at how many kids grow up in orphanages, who never get to know what it's like to have a family.
That's why I think it's better to make these lazy deadbeats own up to the responsibility that they created, whether they want to or not.
Part of adult life is doing what you know needs to be done, even if you don't want to do it.
In fact, the simple truth about being an adult is is that it doesn't matter what you like, or what you would want to do, when there is something that needs to be done.
A REAL MAN does what needs to be done, even when he'd rather not do it!
Also very true, but I think it's a risk worth taking. Granted, I live in Australia, where heavy restrictions were placed on guns in 1995, and now our rate of gun homicides is lower and we haven't had a massacre since Port Arthur. Also I will admit that we can't really know if the same thing would work in America, since guns aren't the only or even the biggest factor in violent crime.
I will thank you, though. I think it really is childish to try and discredit someone who disagrees with you. Take, for example, Anita Sarkeesian, who you might have heard of before. She's frequently made claims that game developers deliberately use female stereotypes and dis-empower female characters to pander to a straight male audience. But if you watch her videos and the examples she uses, you'll find that many of these games are from the 80's and 90's, or are open to interpretation. What makes me shake my head more though is how she treats critics. Granted, random insults and death threats are disgusting and wrong, but she makes no real distinction between baseless insults and actual valid counter-arguments. For example:
Now I don't know two guys on the top-right and bottom-left, but I do recognize the others. AlphaOmegaSin (bottom-right) swears quite a lot in his videos, but raises some very good points. And MrRepzion (top-left) is usually quite calm and civil in his videos, while making some very reasonable arguments and accepting those moments where Anita makes a valid point. But Anita paints them as the exact same type of people: angry youtubers with no valid counter-arguments.
You can tell by the fact that she never debates with any opposition, blocks comments on Youtube, and paints her critics in a negative light, that she knows that her whole thing won't hold up if people publicly question her statements. Hell, many video responses destroy her points within minutes. I think insulting and silencing opposition are both equally childish and work to prevent any real discussion.
I've criticized her a lot here, and I'll probably get told on here that I'm just helping her stay relevant by talking about her, but she's a good example of how some people will just try to attack anyone with a different opinion.
Hopefully, I'll be able to maintain my behavior on Youtube as well. Both my parents have been open to the idea of me starting a channel, and hopefully I'll be good to go in the next couple of weeks. I know that being even remotely well known will result in hate, and I'm confident that I can handle it well. I don't plan on disabling or deleted comments, since I think being a public figure means being open to criticism.
You realize that people you decide to wed off can just get a divorce, right? Or is divorce also illegal in the Caliphate?
I'm not a YouTuber, really.
I watch things on YouTube from time-to-time, but they're mainly music videos, like concerts and alike, so in all honesty, I really am not familiar with the folks you mentioned.
However, I do understand where you are coming from.
Since you mentioned it indirectly, I must say that when it comes to the videogame industry, I think needs to be held to a higher standard, as far as what it portrays in videogames.
In many ways, I think videogames go overboard with the amount of violence and gore that they feature.
That's a fair point, and I think it would be nice if game developers explored other types of games. Sadly, big developers are more concerned with making something that will sell rather than putting the heart into a game. I've been spending more time on my PS1 than my Xbox One lately. Games aren't as creative as they used to be, and that sucks.
Personally, I think violence in games is okay if it's put into context, or I just overlook it and focus on the game's merits. Even though I love to poke fun at Call of Duty, I love the competitive nature of it.
As for children getting their hands on games, I think there should definitely be more restrictions in that area. It would be a good idea for consoles to have parental control (which most consoles do already) and it should be easy to see what games your child is playing.
As for standards, I think that gaming industry should be treated no different than any other form of media. If TV and films can depict rape, then why can't video games? I would understand if the game outright endorses it and has you take part in it, but those games usually never sell well enough for copies to be made.
Its possible, however i think people have to come to terms with themselves then, and forgive. There is too many judgemental assholes in the world.
I'm not saying O'Reilly is an expert.
But he does make some very good points.
What I am saying is, is that our legal system needs to be held to a higher standard.
As does our society.
And by higher standarts you mean a legal system based on religious beliefs?
Don't forget the dismemberment and executions. @Kenny/Lee, you seem like a pretty smart guy and I'm not trying to be a jerk to you, but your ideas represent a regression into moralist tyranny that I find quite disturbing.
America had a lot of these practices before, but we got rid of them for a reason. They were cruel or ineffective, sometimes both. Traditional American values aren't inherently good American values.