Only concerns me the question who has covered most of corpse ?
Probably someone who cared about and/or was related to the person, wh… moreose life is probably ruined and will be full of grief and despair for years to come
Maybe that was someone's brother, or their son/daughter
There's a lot of possibilities there, and quite frankly, all of them are pretty terrible
Last Thursday I finished Finale.
It's was AWESOME. Even If was predictably.
10/10 for Finale and game from me.
I sacrifice Arcadia … moreBay.
Chloe's life no less important than the fate of others.
It had to happen.
You must be able to live with the consequences.
She should be happy after all the years of sadness. She changed her character. Max changed her and I'm happy about it.
NowMax and Chloe will be together forever
Also somebody noticed It?
But he's playing from the same perspective as me.If Max was an NPC who killed thousands for her best friend, I'd understand (like in Joel's case in TLOU) but I'd still be pissed, and regard her as a monster. And that's not even the situation - we play as Max and have a perfectly valid option to sacrifice Chloe (who even asks for it - she would thus be guilt ridden for her entire life having been saved ('I don't want my mum to die in a diner' - she'd know her mum was dead because of her, and look how her dad's death affected her), but that's a separate point).
Yes, it's more complex in that Max cares about Chloe. But in real life, if you're entire family died because someone didn't want to give up their one friend who they hadn't seen for 5 years before that week, I'm pretty sure you'd think they were selfish.
Also, Max DOES know lots of people in the town other than Chloe. It's not a choice between Chloe and some strangers. It's a choice between Chloe and Joyce, David, Warren, Kate, Victoria, Brooke, Alyssa, Evan, Taylor, Dana, etc.
In real life, it's not simple as that.
Since when was this real life? We're talking about a moral choice in a video game. All of us making the choice have known the characters as long as each other
Yes, it sounds simple enough to you and is because the situation is merely fictional. You're not actually present in a real life situation w… morehere your choice is to sacrifice your closest friend vs mostly strangers. Heck if we want to go far enough, you can see it mirror that part in episode 4 where Chloe asks for assisted suicide. Indeed she does similar request in episode 5 in different context.
In real life, it's not simple as that. Not even most of those who chose Sacrifice Chloe as rational choice would do so in a real life situation. We are not Vulcans who would kick someone front of the train if that somehow meant to saving a lot of people instead of a few. Not really a that good comparison but the point is, we don't usually work like that outside of fictional decisions.
Unlike fictional Vulcans, the humans generally favor people they know over the strangers. They might want to save everyone, but prioritize to people they know without even much thinking about it.
thousands of people will die
You always speak of thousands of deaths at the end of sacrificed Arcadia Bay I see 6 dead.
P… moreS. : Okay, we can not see into the building into whether in there dead or injured lying.Only concerns me the question who has covered most of corpse ?
Even if the entire town consisted of Chloe, Kate, Warren, Joyce and David, it'd still be more objectively (as players of the game are in positionally) moral to save the latter four lives over just the first.
I was just pointing out that you can act so heroic only because it's a fictional setting, thus not a real life where you probably couldn't do it. No matter how logical it sounds in your head on retrospect.
But he's playing from the same perspective as me.If Max was an NPC who killed thousands for her best friend, I'd understand (like in Joel's … morecase in TLOU) but I'd still be pissed, and regard her as a monster. And that's not even the situation - we play as Max and have a perfectly valid option to sacrifice Chloe (who even asks for it - she would thus be guilt ridden for her entire life having been saved ('I don't want my mum to die in a diner' - she'd know her mum was dead because of her, and look how her dad's death affected her), but that's a separate point).
Yes, it's more complex in that Max cares about Chloe. But in real life, if you're entire family died because someone didn't want to give up their one friend who they hadn't seen for 5 years before that week, I'm pretty sure you'd think they were selfish.
Also, Max DOES know lots of people in the town other than Chloe. It's not a choice between Chloe and some strangers. It's a choice … [view original content]
In what way is it more complex?
If you sacrifice Arcadia Bay, thousands of people will die. If you sacrifice Chloe, one person dies. Seems simple enough.
From a perspective of environmental storytelling, it makes sense. If avoiding ratings was a goal for them, covering the body can accomplish two different things: keeps the rating down, and captures the gravitas of the situation to some degree without having to show anything graphic. Covering a body with a cloth/blanket/etc is generally seen as a small gesture of respect, more or less. It generally implies that someone had reason to do it, the reason being that the person most likely knew whoever they were covering up, or just felt that it was the right thing to do.
Consider that all the other bodies in the area aren't covered, except for that specific one. That would seemingly imply that someone had a reason to cover that body in particular above the others.
Do not waste time and meet your decisions you think it is right for you can not rewind as in game time. That's my opinion, what is the point.
Other opinions? What's your point?
Even if the entire town consisted of Chloe, Kate, Warren, Joyce and David, it'd still be more objectively (as players of the game are in positionally) moral to save the latter four lives over just the first.
Would be nice if DONTNOD released a directors cut so we could experience the game without a bunch of stuff cutout. For me the only moral thing to do was save Chloe.
Would be nice if DONTNOD released a directors cut so we could experience the game without a bunch of stuff cutout. For me the only moral thing to do was save Chloe.
One of the worst endings in any video game I have ever played. The tumblr feminists wants this game to be better than it is so they try to justify that the ending. It was pretty much a big fuck you to everyone who played 5 episodes of this and the morals of the ending with Chloe makes no sense considering what the developers tried to build up.
I was just pointing out that you can act so heroic only because it's a fictional setting, thus not a real life where you probably couldn't do it. No matter how logical it sounds in your head on retrospect.
I chose to save Chloe mostly because I think the only other character I liked at that point was Warren. And I thought them driving away was really disappointing, I thought they were going to see anyone survived.
After seeing the sacrifice Chloe ending I liked it alot more, but at the same time it made all your choices feel like they didnt matter at all.
One of the worst endings in any video game I have ever played. The tumblr feminists wants this game to be better than it is so they try to j… moreustify that the ending. It was pretty much a big fuck you to everyone who played 5 episodes of this and the morals of the ending with Chloe makes no sense considering what the developers tried to build up.
I chose to save Chloe mostly because I think the only other character I liked at that point was Warren. And I thought them driving away was … morereally disappointing, I thought they were going to see anyone survived.
After seeing the sacrifice Chloe ending I liked it alot more, but at the same time it made all your choices feel like they didnt matter at all.
I've made a compilation of beta and unused stuff, some of which can already be found in this.
(I'll split this into 2 or 3 posts)
Episode 3 January leak chapter names:
Episode3Sub1="Girls' Dormitories"
Episode3Sub2="Campus Dormitories"
Episode3Sub3="Main Campus - Evening"
Episode3Sub4="High School - Evening"
Episode3Sub5="Swimming Pool - Evening"
Episode3Sub6="Parking Lot - Evening"
Episode3Sub7="E3_4A Nightmare"
Episode3Sub8="Chloe's House - Upstairs"
Episode3Sub9="Chloe's House - Downstairs"
Episode3Sub10="Chloe's Truck"
Episode3Sub11="Diner"
Episode3Sub12="Main Campus - Noon"
Episode3Sub13="Max's Room"
Episode3Sub14="Chloe's House - Focus"
Episode3Sub15="Alternative Main Campus"
Episode3Sub16="Alternative Chloe's House"
Nightmare was completely removed. Due to the point in which it would take place, it most like happened during the night Max spent at Chloe's home. The scene in the main campus would likely lead to the removed conversation with Jefferson, in fact, if you watch episode 3's lauch trailer again, you'll notice a scene where Max is in the main campus looking pretty sad, that never happened in the final episode. Unlike nightmare, I think this scene might've been close to completion, especially considering the audio for Jefferson was recorded. Everything else was the same. You can find, somewhere in the internet, the prototype scenes of the splish splash scene and the kiss Chloe option (it wasn't added because people just started shipping it >_>)
Episode 4 January leak chapter names:
Episode4Sub1="Alternative Beach"
Episode4Sub2="Alternative Chloe's House - Downstairs"
Episode4Sub3="Alternative Chloe's House - Upstairs"
Episode4Sub4="Chloe's House - Focus"
Episode4Sub5="Chloe's House - Upstairs"
Episode4Sub6="Chloe's House - Downstairs"
Episode4Sub7="Beach - Frank's Showdown"
Episode4Sub8="Boys Dormitories"
Episode4Sub9="Old Farm"
Episode4Sub10="Junkyard"
Episode4Sub11="Main Campus - Before The Party"
Episode4Sub12="Swimming Pool - Party"
Episode4Sub13="Jefferson's Car"
Episode4Sub14="Junkyard - Evening"
Changes: The fact the showdown with Frank would be the first Max and Chloe do in their investigation, the absence of the hospital scene with Kate, if she lived in ep2, the absence of the scene outside the dorms. Max and Chloe weren't at the main campus before the party, that was changed to the parking lot, and the biggest difference of all, imo, the removal of the scene "Jefferson's car", before the junkyard scene. If I'm remembering things correctly, a long time ago, I saw that Max had to pick between 2 options "Kill him!" and "Call the police", which took place in Jefferson's car scene. This doesn't exactly mean that Jefferson was supposed to be determinant already in episode 4, but if the reveal of what he was up to happened in episode 3, it might make sense for him to become determinant, especially if he wasn't going to be the true main antagonist.
Not really much to say here, for the most part. The Chloe's truck scene was changed to Jefferson's car one. A possible thing that could've happened is that the timeline Max created after ripping the photo in her room was different from the one in the final, but that wouldn't make sense considering the swimming pool focus, unless that was for a completely different reason. The swimming pool focus, as said by someone in this thread (remind me and I'll credit you here) was because that was where Max was originally going to take the selfie with Warren. EDIT: Maybe it was for a different reason, because there is the lack of "Dark Room - confrontation", after Max tore her photo for the contest in half.
The "On the road" ending, is almost certainly the same one as the sacrifice AB ending, except it might actually have taken place ... well.. on the road, rather than in the ruined AB. Weird how they planned this ending since the beginning yet it feels rushed in the final product. Then again, there is only so much you can do with €6 million. Heck, Shenmue 3 has a bigger budget, and that one is kickstarter.
There was supposed to be another focus sequence with the butterfly photo. Where it gets interesting is with the "Hospital - ending". There is concept art of Max in a hospital gown, where she's in AB in the middle of the storm. Either letting Chloe die wouldn't stop the tornado or max would instead take the bullet for her... but that doesn't make sense considering the cliff sequence, so maybe Chloe would survive her gunshot wound instead?
Then there's also the "Nightmare" after the the other 2 endings. Ether the other 2 would be "fake" endings, and this supposed nightmare sequence would be the true ending of the game, or there was supposed to be a bad ending where Max ends up in a tme loop, if the nightmare was the same as the one from episode 1.
(Continued)
Episode 5 January leak chapter names:
* Episode5Sub1="Dark Room"
* Episode5Sub2="Dark Room - Focus"
* Episode5Sub3="Ar… moret Class - Focus"
* Episode5Sub4="Plane To San Francisco"
* Episode5Sub5="San Francisco's Art Gallery"
* Episode5Sub6="Max's Room - Focus"
* Episode5Sub7="Chloe's Truck - In The Storm"
* Episode5Sub8="E5_5B MainStreet"
* Episode5Sub9="Diner - In The Storm"
* Episode5Sub10="Swimming Pool - Focus"
* Episode5Sub11="Cliff - In The Storm"
* Episode5Sub12="On The Road - Ending"
* Episode5Sub13="High School Toilets - Focus"
* Episode5Sub14="Cliff"
* Episode5Sub15="Hospital - Ending"
* Episode5Sub16="Nightmare"
Not really much to say here, for the most part. The Chloe's truck scene was changed to Jefferson's car one. A possible thing that could've happened is that the timeline Max created after ripping the photo in her room was different from the one in the final, but that wouldn't make sense con… [view original content]
Nathan knowing of the storm, to me, means that the Prescotts must've had something to do with it, originally. It'd fit in with Sean Prescott's email to Nathan.
Another thing regarding Nathan, he wasn't supposed to already be dead by the time episode 5 stars, according to this unused dialogue from Jefferson, for episode 5. That's really disappointing.
As you can, there's some old concept art of Max in a hospital gown, in the middle of the storm, and also of an abandoned looking house. It actually looks similar to a house near the old barn, where the dark room is located. Maybe the bunker was supposed to be under the house rather than the barn?
Well, maybe they only said that because of how the mods didn't want people talking about leaked stuff before the final episodes came out? So, in a way, they were covering for you, I guess?
One of the worst endings in any video game I have ever played. The tumblr feminists wants this game to be better than it is so they try to j… moreustify that the ending. It was pretty much a big fuck you to everyone who played 5 episodes of this and the morals of the ending with Chloe makes no sense considering what the developers tried to build up.
Ah, seeing these things makes me sad. I know these things happen all the time in game development, but I wish they had stuck to the original script. It would be so interesting if the Prescotts had something to do with the storm or anything related to that.
(Final part)
And here's videos from the beta episode 2 and unused audio.
Episode 2 beta:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McAP7n… moreUTlnc
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV-BbOU0atc
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg7DQWSn5rM
A little detail I noticed, you can see blood drip from Max's nose in beta episode 2, but not in the final game.
Episode 3's original ending (Jefferson in the dark room) and opening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncpWPChmMfw
Episode 3 and 4 scenes with unused audio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLF0ltLJkOA
Removed conversation with Jefferson audio from episode 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q6_o-E-vC8
It is simmilar to the one with Jefferson from episode 4, but still has its differences.
Nathan unused audio:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBW75OrP5S0
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu9T3L83Ins
Nathan knowing of the storm, to me, means that the Prescotts … [view original content]
Well, maybe they only said that because of how the mods didn't want people talking about leaked stuff before the final episodes came out? So, in a way, they were covering for you, I guess?
Yeah, I really would've preferred it to what we got. I still like the final product, but I can't help wonder what could've been. Nathan knowing that everyone was going to die just ties into his obsession with death, like the picture of a dead bird or the gravedigger . If he knew of the storm,it'd also tie into why the Vortex Club's last party was called the "End of the world".
Ah, seeing these things makes me sad. I know these things happen all the time in game development, but I wish they had stuck to the original… more script. It would be so interesting if the Prescotts had something to do with the storm or anything related to that.
Nice job, btw.
I don't! This is, like, the second time I've asked anyone for their reasons regarding the Chloe choice in, like, 2 weeks? Which isn't exactly 'everyone'.
If you search the thread you'll see that I don't, in fact, reply to everyone who chose a different ending. Give it a go, it sounds like you'll be shocked when you see that.
I was genuinely curious to see why someone would not think it's an ambiguous moral choice but even that it's obvious that saving Chloe is better.
If they had said 'I think it's more moral to save Chloe' I wouldn't have bothered asking, but since they said 'It's the only moral thing to do' it'd mean they have a really strong opinion, which I'm interested about. Sorry if that makes you upset or offends you, I know that happens a lot these days.
Hm, most of them I've spoken to think it's more moral/preferable to save Chloe, but not necessarily that saving Arcadia Bay is actively IMMORAL. I'm curious as to their reasons for thinking that, it's pretty extreme.
Interesting. I sort of think the entire artistic point is that the choices don't matter, that all the time we've spent with Max has been erased. Yet at the same time, it did happen - as Chloe said 'All those moments were real'.
I chose to save Chloe mostly because I think the only other character I liked at that point was Warren. And I thought them driving away was … morereally disappointing, I thought they were going to see anyone survived.
After seeing the sacrifice Chloe ending I liked it alot more, but at the same time it made all your choices feel like they didnt matter at all.
...if you like the ending you're a tumblr feminist?
Hah, okay, that's one way of looking at it. Bizarre and wrong since I know people who certainly aren't feminists let alone tumblr feminists who enjoyed the ending, but if it makes you feel better thinking that the only people who disagree with your opinion belong to one very specific group, then I won't stop you.
One of the worst endings in any video game I have ever played. The tumblr feminists wants this game to be better than it is so they try to j… moreustify that the ending. It was pretty much a big fuck you to everyone who played 5 episodes of this and the morals of the ending with Chloe makes no sense considering what the developers tried to build up.
I've made a compilation of beta and unused stuff, some of which can already be found in this.
(I'll split this into 2 or 3 posts)
Epis… moreode 3 January leak chapter names:
* Episode3Sub1="Girls' Dormitories"
* Episode3Sub2="Campus Dormitories"
* Episode3Sub3="Main Campus - Evening"
* Episode3Sub4="High School - Evening"
* Episode3Sub5="Swimming Pool - Evening"
* Episode3Sub6="Parking Lot - Evening"
* Episode3Sub7="E3_4A Nightmare"
* Episode3Sub8="Chloe's House - Upstairs"
* Episode3Sub9="Chloe's House - Downstairs"
* Episode3Sub10="Chloe's Truck"
* Episode3Sub11="Diner"
* Episode3Sub12="Main Campus - Noon"
* Episode3Sub13="Max's Room"
* Episode3Sub14="Chloe's House - Focus"
* Episode3Sub15="Alternative Main Campus"
* Episode3Sub16="Alternative Chloe's House"
Nightmare was completely removed. Due to the point in which it would take place, it most like happened during the night Max spent at Chloe's home. The scene in t… [view original content]
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Not really.
The devs mentioned about censoring dead bodies to prevent the rating from going up. Which is why they never really showed Rachel's corpse.
Um does Chloe have a dark hickey on her right boob in the second picture xD
Same here
... she and Max had to do something to kill time off-screen.
But he's playing from the same perspective as me.If Max was an NPC who killed thousands for her best friend, I'd understand (like in Joel's case in TLOU) but I'd still be pissed, and regard her as a monster. And that's not even the situation - we play as Max and have a perfectly valid option to sacrifice Chloe (who even asks for it - she would thus be guilt ridden for her entire life having been saved ('I don't want my mum to die in a diner' - she'd know her mum was dead because of her, and look how her dad's death affected her), but that's a separate point).
Yes, it's more complex in that Max cares about Chloe. But in real life, if you're entire family died because someone didn't want to give up their one friend who they hadn't seen for 5 years before that week, I'm pretty sure you'd think they were selfish.
Also, Max DOES know lots of people in the town other than Chloe. It's not a choice between Chloe and some strangers. It's a choice between Chloe and Joyce, David, Warren, Kate, Victoria, Brooke, Alyssa, Evan, Taylor, Dana, etc.
Since when was this real life? We're talking about a moral choice in a video game. All of us making the choice have known the characters as long as each other
..well obviously they aren't going to show you the body of every single dead person in town?
Even if the entire town consisted of Chloe, Kate, Warren, Joyce and David, it'd still be more objectively (as players of the game are in positionally) moral to save the latter four lives over just the first.
I was just pointing out that you can act so heroic only because it's a fictional setting, thus not a real life where you probably couldn't do it. No matter how logical it sounds in your head on retrospect.
I agree with you. She's given time travel and the tornado all this time was her so what was the point of the whole series?
From a perspective of environmental storytelling, it makes sense. If avoiding ratings was a goal for them, covering the body can accomplish two different things: keeps the rating down, and captures the gravitas of the situation to some degree without having to show anything graphic. Covering a body with a cloth/blanket/etc is generally seen as a small gesture of respect, more or less. It generally implies that someone had reason to do it, the reason being that the person most likely knew whoever they were covering up, or just felt that it was the right thing to do.
Consider that all the other bodies in the area aren't covered, except for that specific one. That would seemingly imply that someone had a reason to cover that body in particular above the others.
Guys... It's always was Victoria...
Do not waste time and meet your decisions you think it is right for you can not rewind as in game time. That's my opinion, what is the point.
Other opinions? What's your point?
I like it, I just prefer Tales.
Oh yeah, I never did find out. Are there any major or minor impacts to drawing that picture?
True.
Unused dialogue of Max and Jefferson from episode 3.
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Shame...
I think it would have made Jefferson more impactful if you got more attached to him beforehand.
Would be nice if DONTNOD released a directors cut so we could experience the game without a bunch of stuff cutout. For me the only moral thing to do was save Chloe.
You think it's immoral to save Arcadia Bay?
One of the worst endings in any video game I have ever played. The tumblr feminists wants this game to be better than it is so they try to justify that the ending. It was pretty much a big fuck you to everyone who played 5 episodes of this and the morals of the ending with Chloe makes no sense considering what the developers tried to build up.
Oh, well obviously. I have no idea how I'd act in real life.
The same is true for everyone playing the game, though, regardless of whether they killed Chloe or the residents of the town.
I chose to save Chloe mostly because I think the only other character I liked at that point was Warren. And I thought them driving away was really disappointing, I thought they were going to see anyone survived.
After seeing the sacrifice Chloe ending I liked it alot more, but at the same time it made all your choices feel like they didnt matter at all.
Why do you grill everyone on here that Chooses a different ending to your liking?
It's not always about the choices.
Mr Jefferson and his obsession with the word ''selfie''.
I've made a compilation of beta and unused stuff, some of which can already be found in this.
(I'll split this into 2 or 3 posts)
Episode 3 January leak chapter names:
Nightmare was completely removed. Due to the point in which it would take place, it most like happened during the night Max spent at Chloe's home. The scene in the main campus would likely lead to the removed conversation with Jefferson, in fact, if you watch episode 3's lauch trailer again, you'll notice a scene where Max is in the main campus looking pretty sad, that never happened in the final episode. Unlike nightmare, I think this scene might've been close to completion, especially considering the audio for Jefferson was recorded. Everything else was the same. You can find, somewhere in the internet, the prototype scenes of the splish splash scene and the kiss Chloe option (it wasn't added because people just started shipping it >_>)
Episode 4 January leak chapter names:
Changes: The fact the showdown with Frank would be the first Max and Chloe do in their investigation, the absence of the hospital scene with Kate, if she lived in ep2, the absence of the scene outside the dorms. Max and Chloe weren't at the main campus before the party, that was changed to the parking lot, and the biggest difference of all, imo, the removal of the scene "Jefferson's car", before the junkyard scene. If I'm remembering things correctly, a long time ago, I saw that Max had to pick between 2 options "Kill him!" and "Call the police", which took place in Jefferson's car scene. This doesn't exactly mean that Jefferson was supposed to be determinant already in episode 4, but if the reveal of what he was up to happened in episode 3, it might make sense for him to become determinant, especially if he wasn't going to be the true main antagonist.
(Continued)
Episode 5 January leak chapter names:
Not really much to say here, for the most part. The Chloe's truck scene was changed to Jefferson's car one. A possible thing that could've happened is that the timeline Max created after ripping the photo in her room was different from the one in the final, but that wouldn't make sense considering the swimming pool focus, unless that was for a completely different reason. The swimming pool focus, as said by someone in this thread (remind me and I'll credit you here) was because that was where Max was originally going to take the selfie with Warren. EDIT: Maybe it was for a different reason, because there is the lack of "Dark Room - confrontation", after Max tore her photo for the contest in half.
The "On the road" ending, is almost certainly the same one as the sacrifice AB ending, except it might actually have taken place ... well.. on the road, rather than in the ruined AB. Weird how they planned this ending since the beginning yet it feels rushed in the final product. Then again, there is only so much you can do with €6 million. Heck, Shenmue 3 has a bigger budget, and that one is kickstarter.
There was supposed to be another focus sequence with the butterfly photo. Where it gets interesting is with the "Hospital - ending". There is concept art of Max in a hospital gown, where she's in AB in the middle of the storm. Either letting Chloe die wouldn't stop the tornado or max would instead take the bullet for her... but that doesn't make sense considering the cliff sequence, so maybe Chloe would survive her gunshot wound instead?
Then there's also the "Nightmare" after the the other 2 endings. Ether the other 2 would be "fake" endings, and this supposed nightmare sequence would be the true ending of the game, or there was supposed to be a bad ending where Max ends up in a tme loop, if the nightmare was the same as the one from episode 1.
I posted this a while back and people said it was fake so.. EAT IT to everyone who didn't believe me.
(Final part)
And here's videos from the beta episode 2 and unused audio.
Episode 2 beta:
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV-BbOU0atc
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg7DQWSn5rM
A little detail I noticed, you can see blood drip from Max's nose in beta episode 2, but not in the final game.
Episode 3's original ending (Jefferson in the dark room) and opening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncpWPChmMfw
Episode 3 and 4 scenes with unused audio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLF0ltLJkOA
Removed conversation with Jefferson audio from episode 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q6_o-E-vC8
It is simmilar to the one with Jefferson from episode 4, but still has its differences.
Nathan unused audio:
Nathan knowing of the storm, to me, means that the Prescotts must've had something to do with it, originally. It'd fit in with Sean Prescott's email to Nathan.
Another thing regarding Nathan, he wasn't supposed to already be dead by the time episode 5 stars, according to this unused dialogue from Jefferson, for episode 5. That's really disappointing.
http://chloepriceprotectionsquad.tumblr.com/post/132497878644/cut-audio-from-jefferson-in-the-dark-room "I need to deal with Nathan first"
More unused audio:
From a text file:
Cue_E5_7A_Cliff_CHChloe_Phase01_Chloe_001="You have to choose Max..."
Cue_E5_7A_Cliff_CHChloe_Phase01_Chloe_002="Save me, or that filthy town."
Cue_E5_7A_Cliff_CHChloe_Phase01_Chloe_003="But please, choose me...
"
Beta journal:
As you can, there's some old concept art of Max in a hospital gown, in the middle of the storm, and also of an abandoned looking house. It actually looks similar to a house near the old barn, where the dark room is located. Maybe the bunker was supposed to be under the house rather than the barn?
Well, maybe they only said that because of how the mods didn't want people talking about leaked stuff before the final episodes came out? So, in a way, they were covering for you, I guess?
Yep, the ending sucked.
Alot of people think its immoral to save Arcadia Bay. Bae before bay is their motto.
Ah, seeing these things makes me sad. I know these things happen all the time in game development, but I wish they had stuck to the original script. It would be so interesting if the Prescotts had something to do with the storm or anything related to that.
Nice job, btw.
nah they legit didn't believe me.
Yeah, I really would've preferred it to what we got. I still like the final product, but I can't help wonder what could've been. Nathan knowing that everyone was going to die just ties into his obsession with death, like the picture of a dead bird or the gravedigger . If he knew of the storm,it'd also tie into why the Vortex Club's last party was called the "End of the world".
I don't! This is, like, the second time I've asked anyone for their reasons regarding the Chloe choice in, like, 2 weeks? Which isn't exactly 'everyone'.
If you search the thread you'll see that I don't, in fact, reply to everyone who chose a different ending. Give it a go, it sounds like you'll be shocked when you see that.
I was genuinely curious to see why someone would not think it's an ambiguous moral choice but even that it's obvious that saving Chloe is better.
If they had said 'I think it's more moral to save Chloe' I wouldn't have bothered asking, but since they said 'It's the only moral thing to do' it'd mean they have a really strong opinion, which I'm interested about. Sorry if that makes you upset or offends you, I know that happens a lot these days.
Hm, most of them I've spoken to think it's more moral/preferable to save Chloe, but not necessarily that saving Arcadia Bay is actively IMMORAL. I'm curious as to their reasons for thinking that, it's pretty extreme.
Interesting. I sort of think the entire artistic point is that the choices don't matter, that all the time we've spent with Max has been erased. Yet at the same time, it did happen - as Chloe said 'All those moments were real'.
...if you like the ending you're a tumblr feminist?
Hah, okay, that's one way of looking at it. Bizarre and wrong since I know people who certainly aren't feminists let alone tumblr feminists who enjoyed the ending, but if it makes you feel better thinking that the only people who disagree with your opinion belong to one very specific group, then I won't stop you.
I find it interesting how the 'Jefferson Car' seen would have happened before the Junkyard scene.
If we would have encountered Jefferson before going to the junkyard, then why would we have ended up there, I wander.