Does anyone else feel that the entire gaming community as a whole is getting too negative?
Gary-Oak
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There's people fighting over which console is better. People fighting over how PC is better. People fighting over how games that they don't like are factually pieces of shit. Being condemned by entire communities simply for liking a certain game. Stuff like this has always happened in the gaming community, but now it seems like people would rather fight and argue like little kids rather than shut the fuck up and play some damn games.
What do you guys think?
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Agreed definitely. I ranted about it a little in the Vent thread lol.
pretty much everyone thinks they are the supreme gamer me i would rather play ps4
Honestly, just tonight I was in a party on Xbox Live, and when I told everyone I was deciding whether to get Black Ops 3 or Fallout 4 (the latter is currently more appealing), one of these guys immediately says BO3, because "Fallout 4 will get repetitive."
Not even gonna get started on the fact that this guy hasn't even played Fallout 4, but he even says that "eventually, you're gonna put it down". As if the same won't happen sooner with COD. Then he talks about how apparently Fallout 4 is only one map (waaah, it's not a ton of maps segmented and chopped up) and has one big storyline with a few sidequests. Even if it is that, it's better than what Call of Duty usually offers.
Seriously, these fucking COD fanboys are the worst. I've been getting nagged nonstop by these asshole to get Black Ops 3, when there are tons of other games which are far more appealing to me. Seriously, COD players, there's more to gaming than Rambo simulator.
It's honestly kinda sad that I got headset for my birthday that I probably won't even use because I'm getting sick of gamer's attitudes (since the Xbox 360 controller doesn't output game sound, thanks Micosoft).
Honestly, this is why single-player games are more appealing to me, so I can play in peace and not have people trying to dictate shit that isn't their goddamn business.
Anyway, rant over.
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Yeah, I agree.I hate seeing people being really negative all the time, and why insult somebody just because they like some video games? Sounds really ridiculous. Sometimes if you don't have anything nice to say to somebody (in this case mostly to the people you've never even met) - then don't say anything at all.
People take video games way too seriously. Say Lee is coming back in the TWDG forum and you're called every name in the book. Would it really ruin your life if he came back, who cares what they do. Let them do whatever.
Why is that? Have I ever claimed a console was better than others? No didn't think so. Yeah I don't like Minecraft, but I don't believe I've condemned others for liking it themselves.
I completely agree. There is way too much negativity in this community. So many gamers expect everything to be handed to them on a sliver platter, they want games done THEIR way or not at all. I'm quite sick of the hate to be honest, any gaming YouTuber these days has plagued comment sections, and forums are full of crap, especially blockbuster franchises such as Halo, CoD, Destiny etc. Even Fallout 4 came out a few days ago and half the people who play just seem to nit pick every little thing. It's all bullshit to be honest. If you don't like a game, don't play it, post CONSTRUCTIVE criticism (not blatant hate), and move on. Too many whingers...and they ruin a game's image, which isn't good for it's player base at all.
You're very very right.
I pretty much get the impression that the negative speakers are more outspoken on the internet than those who speak positively, (though I don't believe them to be the majority on consumers).
Maybe because the positive speakers are using the time to enjoy the games and such, instead of talking about it
Fun fact about pre-order "DLC" and why it's causing outrage to make it seem that gaming community is even more negative. Bad practices from the companies is definitely one of the many causes.
The content you get right away when the game comes out, is basically fabricated need made up by the companies to make you more likely to pre-order (or in some cases, it makes you run away from a product even more.) They essentially take out content or have planned that content of being in advance as DLC anyway.
It used to be things like bonus skins etc cosmetic stuff but lately it has been more and more locking away launch content that is story important etc. Heck Dragon Age - Origins locked away some characters behind the paywall. Well that golem guy anyway that is quite interesting character.
And fatter.
Well it's true.
Probably less than a percent of "gamers" post about them online per product.
xbox live is the fucking worst lol. not to say in psn crazy/dumbass shit isnt said, but the few times that i got to have xbox live, it was a bunch of goddamn immaturity, dumbassery, and racism and other shit. yes some is still on pns, but ive never heard it the way i heard it on Xlive. ive play only about like 3 games on psn, mostly tlou so thats just probably that community, but the few that i played on Xlive was... goddamn.
Yeah, there's a lot of negativity in the gaming community--not all of it, but certainly a noisy part of it. I suspect part of that has to do with
--Younger boys & men with developing or damaged social skills (not condemning ALL of them, but come on...you know the demographics)
--The Internet culture that makes you say things behind a monitor that would get your teeth knocked out saying them in public
It's crazy, seeing stories come out about threats against women in games. It's bad enough when when a woman is harassed simply for joining a game, but death threats against those speaking out about it? Crazy...
AC Unity proved that good graphics are nothing if the game has no substance.
I see this kind of negative attitude all over the internet especially in the gaming community. It would be nice if everyone simply did "shut the fuck up and enjoy what they enjoy." but people really like to get invested into the things they love and hate and if someone shouts out and goes against those two things that can cause a bit of an uproar in people.
For me, the one group I can't fucking stand is The Smash Bros. Community, more specifically the competitive aspect.
Oh no doubt about it and it's getting increasingly worse, gamers have a tendency of also hating every game now and complain about one little tiny flaw and then they make it sound like as if it's Superman 64 bad. Metacritic userscores especially show how much gamers can be drama-queens now.
One example I can think of is The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword, I'm replaying it for the first time in four years now just recently, and even though I completed it and loved it, my opinion was even shrouded with how much gamers would like to bash on it, I thought the game was "Pretty good" before just replaying it recently and finding out the game is a tonne of fun with (in my opinion) the most beautiful art-style in the Zelda series. Which is saying something since I'm a huge fan of The Wind Waker and A Link to the Past also.
Another example (which is very new) is Fallout 4. I haven't even played the game yet but some gamers are going on to say the game is pure garbage, it's like as if games can only be "Amazing" or "Terrible" nowadays and there's no "Average" or "Pretty good" And this goes back at what I was saying there earlier about Metacritic, most of the userscores there are perfect 10/10s or 0/10s.
Mini-rant over, but this is something that has really got under my skin lately with how hateful and cynical gamers are becoming of late in general. And it's only getting worse.
The fact that some of the gaming community just doesn't accept the fact that games are games, no matter what console it's played on, no matter what genre it is, makes me want to dry heave at how stupid they act.
In F4 case, graphic is just one of many "EEEEWWWWWW".
i agree it's easy to come across someone who's opinionated as fuck when it comes to games/consoles. i don't see what's their point in getting hurt about it so much.
I think most people in life are negative, so it comes naturally. I personally have game systems since commodore 64, so graphics to me, don't make the game. What makes a game for me, is how long it holds my attention.
This is something that has gotten to me for a long time. Wouldn't say it's just a game problem, but yeah, it's rampant in the gaming community. Lack of respect for people, people's creations, intolerance towards differing views, people thinking their opinion is fact while demeaning others for sharing a different view, swatting, sending death threats (one in specific jumps out as being particularly idiotic and that is the death threats over what was, I believe, a slight adjustment to a gun's damage in one of the CoD games)
Also, before tackling Fallout 4, did you know that games aren't classed as art? So people should have the right for them to go how they want. Utter stupidity. I mention this particularly because of some of the responses I'd received when posting about LiS's ending and how it shouldn't be changed, unless the developers think it should be.
So, Fallout 4 . . . I have it on the PS4 and I'm currently level 18. So, not at the start, but there's a lot more I've yet to explore, so I may as well be. Fallout 4 is a good example of what's wrong, outside of rude behavior online, and disrespect towards the people who create the games we supposedly enjoy. They spent years on it and people were wanting a new installment from what I gather. What happens when we finally get a new installment? 0/10, 1/10, 10/10. So I'm not misunderstood, I included 10/10 there. I believe very few games deserve perfect marks. But on the other hand, 0/10 or 1/10? Dead wrong. The only way a game should be scored a 0/10 is if it's totally broken and such. Even a 1/10 is very much pushing it, especially for Fallout 4. This is not something that's subjective either. It's fine to dislike the game and give it a low score, but those scores are quite undeserved. Though those people on the PC who can't get it to run? Well, those 0/10 scores are perhaps justified, though I'd question if they bought the game without having met the minimum specs. On the consoles, however, there's no excuse. So yeah, no matter how you slice it, the game generally deserves a higher score than 0/10 or 1/10 even with subjectivity.
The game, as a whole, is really enjoyable for me. The gunplay is good as is the exploration. Writing/story, though it's not going to win any awards so far, is also fine really (still haven't found a certain someone yet who you need to find soon after the game's start, so I'm not far into the story at all, I believe.) There are, however, bugs. But they haven't broken the game for me anyway. Just oddities like a Brahmin getting stuck on a roof in the first settlement you get access to. Or a companion staying sat down after being injured and being unable to heal her. Then she goes missing when I fast travel and is not where she was left. These examples have only happened once. And a reload fixes the companion issue, plus the brahmin thing seems to have righted itself though I will admit it was amusing trying to find where a noise was coming from, searching for ten minutes, only to discover it on the roof.
As a rule of thumb, people should be saving a lot anyway. And The Witcher 3 also had its bugs. For example, raining inside a house. Potion recipes being overwritten by upgrades, rendering them impossible to craft if you didn't make them prior to the upgraded recipe (fixed now though, I believe), a few crashes on the PS4 (had none in Fallout 4), and the wild hunt still present in a village after a quest and they cannot be attacked or anything (though they also don't attack me so just a visual bug/annoyance). Still a good game though, as is Fallout 4. And I find the comparisons between the two games amusing.
But for other gamers? The slightest flaw ruins everything and it feels like there are double standards applied as far as it concerns The Witcher 3 and Fallout 4. Newsflash too: Just because a game does something you disagree with or dislike doesn't mean it's awful too, but it does mean it's potentially not for you. Also, there are far too many 'experts' on how to make a game. I reckon there's a good reason the graphics, though they're fine, aren't as good as they could be in Fallout 4. That is likely due to simulating/keeping track of many more things than in other games, which hogs resources. I'm no expert at all, having only fiddled with RPG Maker, but that would make sense to me, that sacrifices need to be made. Of course, if the graphics were great, then people would moan about other aspects. And well, as others have said, graphics don't make a game, though it can obviously help.
But yeah . . . I've rambled. People wonder at times why developers/companies don't listen? Take a look at the reaction to Fallout 4. Also see the comment I made regarding games not being art and games should go the direction the player wants. This is also a problem Telltale shares, with people wondering why they're silent and people also saying their stuff is rubbish while shouting down other opinions. Amongst other things. Of course, this might not be a reason as to why Telltale don't communicate much, but I can see it being a possible one. Though I think even if they did communicate more or set a schedule, it wouldn't help much.
Edit: Oh, also . . . the mentality that some gamers have, where they think they can dictate what games should exist and should be sold, is annoying beyond belief. As is the fact they complain about titles they're not forced to buy. I'm primarily thinking of the CoG titles on Steam here. To me, it's like someone standing in a store and ranting to random people about products.
Can I also add Batman: Arkham Knight to that list? The amount of hate this game gets just seems exaggerated and out of control, the game is not flawless but it's far from being a 1/10 "shitty game" like most "fans" seem to say. What's even worse for me is the fact that Rocksteady are working their asses off to please these people in any way they can with a lot of the DLC content challenge mode packs and DLC costumes and yet, they're still getting shit on by people who still aren't satisfied because it's not Arkham City again. I had problems with the game but I'm NOT going to suddenly shit on Rocksteady or walk away from them in a disrespectful manner because I didn't get another Arkham City especially when I know Rocksteady show their passion for Batman and want to give players a memorable Batman experience though that's just how I see it.
Batman: Arkham Knight I want to buy for the PS4, eventually, especially with it seeming to have come down in price on Amazon.co.uk. I own the others on the PC and despite not completing them, as I don't many other games (stupid, I know), I like them. I like super hero stuff in general.
But while I wouldn't condone the hate, from what I've read, wasn't the PC version launched in a bad condition? I mean, I read it was taken off Steam and only recently made available again with refunds being given. Or has it all been vastly overblown? I'm sure the game was fine on the consoles though and if it did get 'metabombed' etc. on those versions, then I feel bad for Rocksteady.
Regardless, if it's been overblown, then I really don't see why Rocksteady are bending over backwards to satisfy people. It might actually teach those people something if they didn't. (Also, wasn't there a different developer for the PC version? Or rather, someone else handled the port.)
The competitive smash community is one of the only ones I love
Anything in particular about it that makes you feel that way?
Yes, someone else handled the PC port and they did a pretty bad job and Rocksteady and Warner Bros are trying to fix it. Probably not overblown, but there's a good many that try and make the game out as the worse thing ever than it actually is. I guess Rocksteady understand some of the flaws people have criticized the game for and are trying to make the game a better overall experience for them as they do seem very passionate about the games they make.
I see. Well, if it's not overblown which it normally is, then this is one of the rare instances I can somewhat understand. However, going off what you say, Rocksteady trying to fix things is not good enough, which is typical and not on. Granted, the game shouldn't have been released if it was bad enough to cause them to take it off the market, but at least they're trying to fix it and that should count for something. Live and learn as the saying goes too.
Yeah. More gamers should focus on playing the games they like instead of fighting. It's ridiculous.
I wouldn't say the WHOLE community, but it is pretty toxic, all those people hating on brawl, melee, or smash 4 like no tomorrow. I don't understand why they can't just play some fucking smash.
agreed
all of smash is so orgasmic
First of all, Melee Fanboys. They're so quick to tell everyone how much Brawl sucks and how much Smash 4 sucks. They get into all of this technical talk about wavedashing, cancelling, dashcancelling, whatever other bullshit that I just don't care about. Worst part, they try to make people who enjoy any Smash game that's not Melee feel stupid.
Melee is my least favourite Smash Bros. game, but that doesn't mean I hate it, hell I'll still play it with friends. But to these stupid idiots, "Least-favourite" is synonymous with "Shit," and they're so quick to defend their precious product that effects not a goddamn thing in the world.
And second, OMEGA Stages. My school has been lucky enough to have a gaming room where the the only game that's not a sports game is Smash Wii U, which is free to play. The school also brought 5 gamecube controllers, but if you have a 3DS (which I do), you can play with out submitting your Student ID first.
Yep, it sounds awesome. But there's one huge problem: Almost every single person who manages to get the controllers first always play on OMEGA stages with no items on. Ever played 3 stock 8-player smash on Omega with no items on? It gets boring really fast, and each match takes forever once it's down to two people getting into a dodge fest.
I love that Sakurai and his team made a flat version of every single stage in both versions, but this right here is a huge downside to the people who actually want to play for fun. Try and tell these assholes that we should play on different stages so it doesn't feel monotonous, and they complain and say, "No! Omega the best! It's completely fair!!"
A. Don't fucking talk to me about playing fair if you refuse to let people pick a stage they want, and B. You are not in a tournament, nothing's at stake, and your idea of fair isn't fun for anyone who doesn't eat, sleep, and shit competitive Smash like you do...
Yes, I know not every competitive player is an asshole, but Smash players with good sportsmanship is so hard to find these days. Sorry for the essay. Guess I got carried away.
Yeah, I think a lot of people hold these types of mindsets and it can get really annoying. I myself prefer playing competitively but if I know the person I'm playing doesn't play that way I'll make sure to play whatever ruleset they want, even if I may not enjoy it
I think the internet in general is toxic and negative these days. Miss the days when we watched a bunch of cat videos on YouTube. Good times.
I think you'll find its not just the gaming community but the world as a whole. There will always be idiots who have to be right and deem everyone else wrong. Its been going on since the dawn of mankind.
Do I think young people today are somehow worse than people from before?
Do I think the global community is somehow getting worse?
Do I think group X is getting different in a way that's bad?
The answer to these, and OP is still, and will always be the same. No, always no, until you can present convincing statistical evidence. The internet lets shitty people blast their crap all over, but it does not represent the community as a whole. You can let the shitty people pull you down too, or rise above it and focus on the normal people. It's on you. It is not the responsibility of others to coddle you or shelter you from the big, bad trolls of the world.
I'm just a reasonably successful internet personality who has learned to deal with the digital world. That's my two cents.
You guys should go play some popular Minecraft servers.... Take my +1 vote OP. I have to defend myself and how I'm apparently a "stupid nigger" on a daily basis. I hate racists, I hate internet warriors. Put two of them together and I might lose my shit. I try to leave them as soon as possible but I can't handle it. I'm here to play some SkyWars. Not a stress simulator.