So overall what are the best decisions for end game?
I was curious if there was a way to find out which choices are the best throughout the entire game to do the best in the end.
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I was curious if there was a way to find out which choices are the best throughout the entire game to do the best in the end.
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Well, if you play by the terms Ramsay set, you would need to save Rodrick and then kill Ludd which makes you the last house standing.
But your house still burns down ?
That's true but you still sorta win. Knowing TT it's not going to count for anything tho.
Regardless of how you play things will end up largely the same.
No matter what your hall will burn, your mother will die, and your lord will be in exile with Talia and 1 (possibly 2) other companion(s).
Also...
One brother will live, one will die
One advisor will live, one will die
One of the Whitehill antagonists will live, one will die
It all depends on who you want to live/die.
Brother - straight choice in episode 5
Advisor - the traitor will live if you spare him in episode 5, the sentinal will live if you kill the traitor in episode 5
Whitehill - In Rodrik's path it's a straight choice, you'll choose to follow one of them and kill him. In Asher's path, choose poison and don't call off the plan for any reason and you will kill Ludd, call off the plan (or choose ambush) to kill Gryff.
I'd guess the best scenario at the end is Asher with Talia and 2 more companions, just cause its an extra hand. If you call the plan off and side with Gwyn it's possible we could start next season as Asher with Talia, Gwyn and the Sentinel/Traitor as companions.
I guess by going south and sacrificing Cotter you make both the Barstard twins happy.
He said House, not Lord.
But the guy said in episode 1 "the North Grove should never be lost" or something, so shouldn't we stay there, so as not to lose the North Grove?
But I don't think Lord Gregor wanted the Forresters to go extinct it's more logical to save the remaining Forresters than stay and protect something they barely understand.
But I was thinking, aren't the twins the North Grove? Sure there's magic but that was found recently, no way anyone could've known. That's my thinking anyway.
I thought the same.
Lord Gregor wanted us to save the twins.
I hope that's right anyway...
Not quite sure what you mean as i clearly said house as well. If you choose to save Asher instead of Rodrik, Ludd comes to your gates saying he has won based on Ramsay's terms.
Which was pretty weird. considering a House isn't composed of only one lord.
Agreed but that's how the game is played i guess.
Thanks everyone for all the responses! I'd like to see the best possible outcome at some point just out of curiosity.
Well actually no. Torrhen and Gryff would need to die as well. Asher doesn't count on for Ramsay's terms account of his exile and such. Torrhen and Gryff are actively involved with their House; Ryon's a hostage, Asher was banished to another continent and lost relevance in Westero's political scene, and Talia is lacking in the penis department.
Killing Ludd doesn't meet Ramsay's terms on account of Gryff and Torrhen. Asher doesn't count for them because he's irrelevant in Westero's political scene. Everyone knows Rodrik and he has his alliances (eh, sorta) and reputation whereas Asher is the troublemaker, sellsword, son banished to another continent and is only familiar to Gwyn.
Wait, can we somehow kill both Ludd and Gryff?
Like kill Gryff with elven comando, and Ludd intercepte on the way.
Someone said it is possible with Rodrick live and Asher dead.
I know that the worst choice you could possibly make for Season 2 is to abandon the North Grove
Telltale themselves said in a recent interview that the North Grove must never be lost
That's why Rodrik must live so the terms of war still count, It was a war between Ludd and Rodrik and Rodrik can win but lose at the same time which is better than losing the terms of war and losing all together. I'm not saying this will be talked about in Season 2 but it makes sense.
Ok then Ironrath is screwed but a Grove in the North must prevail, it may make sense to you but not to me but I'll change it anyway.
I think the same, where Jorsera and ........ go the magic goes with them and at least they've got the location marked on the map XD.
Rodrik can avoid losing (by Ramsay's terms) if he lives, yes. There are zero ways for him to win while Gryff/Ludd and Torrhen live.
I'd say Telltale is wrong.
The North Grove isn't important in the long run (against the Whitewalkers and Co.) because Bran and Bloodraven have that covered. If it was meant to help House Forrester it did a shit job because most of them are dead and their home is rekt.
I'd say it's magic is useless against any notable secular force.
I suppose that the right choice is to save the North Grove, as i see it it is Fallout shelter against Long Winter.
There are probably some dragons involved and overall magic.
Whatever happens in Ironrath dosnt matter since there are always 2 Foresters alive in North Grove.
Mira will be fine (i suppose) if she marry without merry.
Roderick/Asher will be fine, and will have aliance with one other house (either with Gwyn or Eleana)
Uncle is pampering Denerys so that is one more ally off screan.
Boltons will probably be taken down by Stanis.
Whitehills will be taken down by Morgryn.
In Westeroes as soon as you are on top everyone hates you, so it is ok to hide for a while and wait till dust falls.
Yeah but Ludd would be dead.
True Lord Gregor was losing his mind maybe because of the loss of blood and old age LOL.
...And Torrhen would be in power.
That's exactly what the Whitehill's current plan is anyways. It's just happening a bit sooner than expected.
Haha, right? He probably meant to say "Ironrath" but got the two mixed up in his confusion. His last thoughts were "Wait, did I tell Gared to save Ironrath because of its secret magic or to save the grove up North with nothing but trees and Snows? Huh, probably Ironrath."
Ludd is a competent leader, Gryff is a fool and a coward and Torrhen is most likely a Whitehills version of Rodrik. I made the choice of killing Ludd because it would mean Torrhen would have to come back and take over things while if you kill Gryff, Ludd can keep on doing what he's already been doing so far.
Silly Gregor.
I believe that was just Ludd trying to make Asher give up. The House stands as long as the lord stands (or even, as long as the bloodline stands).
But, as Gryff says, I think, Asher is the fourth lord in a few months. That’s not a good sign for the House.
The Dragon, just no, but I like the idea of watching as the North tears itself apart and you just walk back into Ironrath maybe slit Morgryn and Gryff's throat and become more powerful than ever.
Sure Telltale and HBO are wrong about their own game. kek
How the heck is Bran going to help House Forrester, which will be one of the first keeps to be hit by the Others because it is so far north? Dany's vision show us winter will come as far south as King's Landing.
Many, many people will die before the Night King is defeated. House Forrester,weakened by war as it is, will be long gone by the time Bran manages to defeat them.
Magic is useless? Do you forget the Others are largely magical beings? How could you have missed that?
Yeah it actually is possible to get them both but if you do your going to have to deal with Torrhen Whitehill. Do you really want that ?
The power of the North Grove can't be particularly powerful because HBO wouldn't allow something like that to exist in a side-game. Yes, the Others are magical which is a large part of why they won't be hindered by a weak third-tier house. The magic can't protect the Forresters or defeat their enemies because then it'd be a significant force... which HBO wouldn't allow in a side-game. The magic we've seen is likely all we'll get because warriors under the control of bloodmagic fits in their world, major magic capable of destroying/saving large groups of people or hindering the Others belongs to Bran, Azor Ahai, and literally no one else.
Also, Dany is delusional and Melisandre has visions that Stannis is Azor Ahai and will defeat the Others. So you used two unreliable sources (Dany, visions) in one. Yes, Telltale is wrong. HBO isn't (in this case)
"The only winning move is not to play."
HBO has a direct hand in making this series,it's been said since the start.
If the North Grove exists in their canon, that's because they're ok with it. That you want Bran to be the only one to have something to fight the Others with is just your personal wish.
That magic won't be all we get since the characters said multiply times it is just a little, tiny portion of it.
Also, Dany's visions have always been on point, I don't see how you can discard their validity with an insanity claim. Melisandre has nothing to do with that, too...
Stanis is dead in the show.Jon snow will take the boltons down
We don't know that for sure. We need a picture of Stannis saying "I got lucky, real lucky".