The Telltales Game of Thrones Theory Thread

edited November 2015 in Game Of Thrones

Hello everyone. If you've ever been a SOIAF or GOT fan you probably know the funnest activity the fandom usualy takes part in. Theories. So i made this thread so people can share and disscuss theories of their own with other members of the fandom. I will begin with a few of my own:

The Thirdborn Son

This theory states that Torrhen Whitehill (Thirdborn of Ludd Whitehill) will eventually kill or overpower the remaining whitehill. Torrhen is the Whitehill heir since his brother Ebbert (the secondborn) renuonced his herritage by working at the citadel to become a maester. Currently working for House Bolton he could easily comeback to take ironwrath by either declaring himself the future heir ( if Gryff is dead) or the true Lord (if Ludd is dead). It is possible he maybe worse than both his father and brother since he abbused Gryff when he was a kid and was reprimanded by Ludd. Those qualities could very well work to make him the next antagonist.

Morgryns Betrayal

This theory states that Lord Morgryn will eventually attempt ( and perhaps sucede) at betraying Ludd/Gryff and taking house whitehill. He has already tried (and determinantly almost suceded) taking over Ironrath by marrying Mira Forrester. But like Lord Baelish he may try to backstabb his way to power and House whitehill would be the most obvious second step. Another thing that backs this up is his enormous ego. The Whitehills openly excluded him from his deal and then came to him as a second option. It could be likely he would have a spy in the ranks for the whitehills or have already planned for a political move with another house.

The Secret of the North Grove

The North Grove is quite a mystery isn't it. It is an Ironwood grove beyond the wall filled with magical power that seems to emmanate from deep within itself. But where does this power come from? After a lot of consideration i have come to a bizzare but quite possible answer. There is a sleeping ice dragon under the grove.

Now before you denounce this theory immediately consider these facts.

  1. Many SOIAF fans believe there are ice dragon asleep under the earth. Some believe Azor Ahai will bring them from their slumber or possibly that the horn of winter will release them. Possible locations for them or it include The Wall, Winterfell or Harhome.

  2. Dragons are known to restore magic when near a person or area. This would explain why magic is so powerfull in the grove.

  3. This would also explain why the white walkers would be so interasted in conquering or destroying it and why Lord Forrester prioritised his last words to ensure its protection even when he had entrusted his two magical bastards to make sure it was safe.

Well thats it for now. Looking forward to see what you guys have theorised.

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  • I think Torrhen is a must have for season 2, he's the only other potential antagonist other than Ludd/Gryff and Morgryn.

  • If we're seeing Torrhen we will probably also be seeing Roose Bolton.

    AgentZ46 posted: »

    I think Torrhen is a must have for season 2, he's the only other potential antagonist other than Ludd/Gryff and Morgryn.

  • Really? I don't know, if Torrhen appeared I feel like it'd be by leaving Roose's service.

    Brodester08 posted: »

    If we're seeing Torrhen we will probably also be seeing Roose Bolton.

  • Yeah but do you think he'll kill or just over power Gryff/Ludd?

    AgentZ46 posted: »

    I think Torrhen is a must have for season 2, he's the only other potential antagonist other than Ludd/Gryff and Morgryn.

  • Me too.

    AgentZ46 posted: »

    Really? I don't know, if Torrhen appeared I feel like it'd be by leaving Roose's service.

  • Who knows, depends on what kind of person he is, I'm thinking he'll be similar to Tywin but not a carbon copy. Like he'll be calculating, ruthless and above all, pragmatic.

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    Yeah but do you think he'll kill or just over power Gryff/Ludd?

  • That sounds great.

    AgentZ46 posted: »

    Who knows, depends on what kind of person he is, I'm thinking he'll be similar to Tywin but not a carbon copy. Like he'll be calculating, ruthless and above all, pragmatic.

  • Well if you killed Ludd he'd have a reason to come back.

    AgentZ46 posted: »

    Really? I don't know, if Torrhen appeared I feel like it'd be by leaving Roose's service.

  • Morgryn's got no right to Ironrath in my game, rather die than hand my life over to that loser.

    And I left the North Grove so...

  • edited November 2015

    I think Morgryn will try to find an alternarive.

    As for the North Grove.......well at least ironrath may be saved.

    PigeonPie posted: »

    Morgryn's got no right to Ironrath in my game, rather die than hand my life over to that loser. And I left the North Grove so...

  • I think he would comeback if you killed Gryff too. With the whole "im the heir now" thing.

    PigeonPie posted: »

    Well if you killed Ludd he'd have a reason to come back.

  • edited November 2015

    He is heir already. Gryff would be Torrhen´s heir.

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    I think he would comeback if you killed Gryff too. With the whole "im the heir now" thing.

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    Lord_EAA posted: »

    I think Morgryn will try to find an alternarive. As for the North Grove.......well at least ironrath may be saved.

  • I wonder if the whitehills will rename it.

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  • I believe Vlad was pointing out that you misspelled Ironrath.

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    I wonder if the whitehills will rename it.

  • The only theories I care about now are the North Grove ones. While some small questions have been answered, we still don't know much about it. I just hope it's worth protecting, then again why would Gregor sent his bastards there and Gared if it wasn't important. It has to be more important than we know, than we realise.

    Gregor said the future of the house depended on it, I fear that he said that so Gared was persuaded to go, there is nothing they could do there that would save the house.

    Your theory seems plausible but waaay too ambitious. It has to be something more subtle. Elsera says that the North Grove gave her a gift, the ability to control the warriors... There's something special there but I cannot think what it is or how Gared has any part to play in it. Ironrath is lost, the North Grove can't help but there is something to protect and I can't wait to find out what.

  • Oh....sry

    AgentZ46 posted: »

    I believe Vlad was pointing out that you misspelled Ironrath.

  • It probably has something to do with the great war between humans and the nights king thats been building up so far.

    Kateis posted: »

    The only theories I care about now are the North Grove ones. While some small questions have been answered, we still don't know much about i

  • Talia is an alternative

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    I think Morgryn will try to find an alternarive. As for the North Grove.......well at least ironrath may be saved.

  • I think both whitehills brothers will be in the next game. Torrhen will be an NPC and Ebbert will be the POV.

    I wonder if that's where Gwynn is taking Asher

  • edited November 2015

    I mean if he failed to get Talla. He fully expected her to bow down and become his subservient wife. In fact he was so arrogant about it he blatantly told her she was going to become his slave and heirmaker robot. If she denied him he probably has a backup in the works.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Talia is an alternative

  • To Ebbert? He doesn't seem to be a 'nice' guy from what we heard.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    I think both whitehills brothers will be in the next game. Torrhen will be an NPC and Ebbert will be the POV. I wonder if that's where Gwynn is taking Asher

  • Let's just realize that he is no LF, so although we hope there's a backup plan.. I bet there isn't.

    I think Mira was the backup plan. Because his main thing is that all the Forresters will die regardless and he will still control the ironwood trade with Ludd/Gryff

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    I mean if he failed to get Talla. He fully expected her to bow down and become his subservient wife. In fact he was so arrogant about it he

  • Isn't he the maester? Aren't all maesters nice?

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    To Ebbert? He doesn't seem to be a 'nice' guy from what we heard.

  • Hahahaha........lets just say some 'members' have previously disproven that.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Isn't he the maester? Aren't all maesters nice?

  • I think the whole Mira thing was his gambit for a big power move this early. He probably still has plans to make one bit it will probably take MUCH longer and depend on a LOT of work and effort.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Let's just realize that he is no LF, so although we hope there's a backup plan.. I bet there isn't. I think Mira was the backup plan. Bec

  • Even if you agree to marry Morgryn, he technically still has 0 power over Ironrath because Rodrik/Asher are still alive. I think he was counting on the Whitehills to kill all of Mira's family, but what he doesn't know is that the lord of house Forester is still alive leaving his plan completely pointless. Now hes just stuck in a marriage with Mira lmao.

  • Everyone will probably assume Rodrik/Asher is dead.

    Suzy222 posted: »

    Even if you agree to marry Morgryn, he technically still has 0 power over Ironrath because Rodrik/Asher are still alive. I think he was coun

  • Yeah as long as Asher/Rodrick is presumed dead Morgryn has a claim.

    Suzy222 posted: »

    Even if you agree to marry Morgryn, he technically still has 0 power over Ironrath because Rodrik/Asher are still alive. I think he was coun

  • Don't forget about Ryon.

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    Yeah as long as Asher/Rodrick is presumed dead Morgryn has a claim.

  • The Whitehills will claim hes dead to solidify the claim that house Forresters was wiped out.

    rousseau posted: »

    Don't forget about Ryon.

  • That would have to tie with the books and as much as it would be cool I dont see that happening. Martin already knows what is gonna happen and now he´s just writing how is it gonna happen so that is intersting.

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    It probably has something to do with the great war between humans and the nights king thats been building up so far.

  • edited November 2015

    Except maester Luwin and Aemon I cant think of another "good" maester

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Isn't he the maester? Aren't all maesters nice?

  • But the conflict also takes place in the show universe were the game takes place in so its still VERY possible.

    That would have to tie with the books and as much as it would be cool I dont see that happening. Martin already knows what is gonna happen and now he´s just writing how is it gonna happen so that is intersting.

  • Im a game of thrones person not a asoiaf fan so I've only seen 3 maesters and they all did what they had to, in order to serve their house.

    Except maester Luwin and Aemon I cant think of another "good" maester

  • Yeah but even if they can change some characters´s arcs or cut out things they still need to follow the main story that is set by GRRM.

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    But the conflict also takes place in the show universe were the game takes place in so its still VERY possible.

  • Yeah Luwin, Aemon and Ortenghryn.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Im a game of thrones person not a asoiaf fan so I've only seen 3 maesters and they all did what they had to, in order to serve their house.

  • They don't have to change anything. Just refrence it or something.

    Yeah but even if they can change some characters´s arcs or cut out things they still need to follow the main story that is set by GRRM.

  • Rodrik/Asher will heal and come back to save the day (I hope), so Morgryn wont have Ironrath for long!

    Lord_EAA posted: »

    The Whitehills will claim hes dead to solidify the claim that house Forresters was wiped out.

  • edited November 2015

    Or in true GOT/SOIAF fashion Asher/Rodrick will gain power, get new friends and enemies, get involved in conflics that have nothing to do with him, meet characters other Forrester pov's met before that you basically forgot existed and finally die seasons later for something that barely had anything to do with him never going back to Irorath or killing the remaing Whitehill.

    But as i always say....Keep hope alive.

    Suzy222 posted: »

    Rodrik/Asher will heal and come back to save the day (I hope), so Morgryn wont have Ironrath for long!

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