Paul Ryan took a crap on net neutrality (and congress let him)

BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
edited December 2015 in General Chat

God I hate this country sometimes.

Our friends on Capitol Hill just attached CISA to the Omnibus Budget Deal (the one keeping the government from shutting down...again). This basically means that CISA (Cybersecurity Information Sharing and Protection Act) is guaranteed to pass and be signed into law by President Obama. The bill probably wouldn't have passed on its own, so the snakes pushing it had to attach it as a rider to a bill they knew would pass.

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Among other things, this law will allow private corporations to pass on your private information and such to the Feds and local cops **on the mere suspicion that you may be a threat to cybersecurity. So yeah, we're deputizing the goddamn private sector to fight cyber crime. One large step towards complete corporate dominance of the Internet.

America, your democracy in action! I'm really not sure how we as Americans should be reacting against this, or if we can even react at all.

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  • They're listening now. Thanks, whores.

  • It's wonderful to see this spirit of bipartisanship the two parties have in their shared enthusiasm for screwing us.

    Thanks, assholes.

    They're listening now. Thanks, whores.

  • Blind SniperBlind Sniper Moderator
    edited December 2015

    Seriously? These people won't just let it die already. This is just pleasant news.

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited December 2015

    Yep and unfortunately, there's literally no way it won't happen. Obama has to sign that bill into law, no matter how many earmarks and bullshit riders are attached to it.

    Seriously? These people won't just let it die already. This is just pleasant news.

  • He doesn't have to do anything, but that doesn't mean he isn't going to.

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    Yep and unfortunately, there's literally no way it won't happen. Obama has to sign that bill into law, no matter how many earmarks and bullshit riders are attached to it.

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited December 2015

    Pure technicality. He's obligated.

    He doesn't have to do anything, but that doesn't mean he isn't going to.

  • Well I think there should be some debate about the necessity/legality/wisdom of attaching things to bills in order to get them to pass when they otherwise couldn't, prior to passing such bills. Of course it's going to get passed, I acknowledged that, but I think that this practice needs to come to an end. Taking everything that gets voted down and attaching it to other things to slip it through is complete bullshit. You know, I know it, they know it. It's why they do it.

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    Pure technicality. He's obligated.

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited December 2015

    Absolutely, but the Senate is an old-boy's club and this is their legal sanctioned way of siphoning resources to their state and getting their undemocratic, sore-loser way. Short of mass revolt, I don't see that changing.

    Why aren't young people pissed off, in the streets, burning cop cars and shit?

    Well I think there should be some debate about the necessity/legality/wisdom of attaching things to bills in order to get them to pass when

  • Because that's how you go to prison. The only real option is electing new representatives, but in today's government I don't see that really improving things either. Greed is too strong. Maybe I'm too cynical.

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    Absolutely, but the Senate is an old-boy's club and this is their legal sanctioned way of siphoning resources to their state and getting the

  • Considering they just keep finding new ways to passive aggressively shoehorn it in via underhanded techniques (such as Trans Pacific Partnership), they seem hellbent enough on this to where protesting wouldn't work. It shouldn't be that way, but alas, crony capitalism prevails yet again. :/

    Because that's how you go to prison. The only real option is electing new representatives, but in today's government I don't see that really improving things either. Greed is too strong. Maybe I'm too cynical.

  • Fuck it, I nominate Senator Palpatine for Chancellor.

    Considering they just keep finding new ways to passive aggressively shoehorn it in via underhanded techniques (such as Trans Pacific Partner

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited December 2015

    Because that's how you go to prison.

    Eh, I've managed to evade capture once or twice, though not for anything quite so dramatic. But the point of direct actions is getting enough people whipped into a frenzy that "you can arrest all of us" kicks in. The question is how, or if you can get people mad enough to risk getting beaten/tear-gassed.

    The only real option is electing new representatives, but in today's government I don't see that really improving things either. Greed is too strong. Maybe I'm too cynical.

    Unfortunately, electing new legislators is a non-solution. Thanks to widespread gerrymandering, incumbents tend to be dug in like ticks. Urban representatives may get the boot occasionally, but the fine folks in Bumfuck, Arkansas probably won't be deposing their representative until he/she has the good grace to retire or die.

    Because that's how you go to prison. The only real option is electing new representatives, but in today's government I don't see that really improving things either. Greed is too strong. Maybe I'm too cynical.

  • Shocker, these people don't like to just let this stuff die, but prefer to keep pushing the issue. Methinks they fail to understand that we aren't just nerds behind a computer screen. People who use the internet are still the majority in the country, after all.

  • I actually have joked, not here but if Trump somehow not only wins nomination but also the presidency (we don't have that many mentally defficient people in America, right?), but this video works for whenever shit like this happens

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  • edited December 2015

    "Look at ISIS, look at the Islamic Terrorists, and the government wants to take your guns! Don't look at us stealing your personal freedoms" says Congress.

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    This song is so sadly accurate of what's happening politically in America, it's depressing

  • Fuck the American Government! I said it! Come get me CIA!

    Seriously though, it sucks but there's little we can do to fight it.

  • edited December 2015

    Note: I'm not taking sides, this is a mere observation and speculation. ;)

    Things like these are more complex than it first appears.

    Typical law abiding citizen would just ask "Why does it matter unless you break the law?" or more like "What does it matter if you have nothing to hide?"

    Basically what this means, why you should care if you don't plan to break the law? Sure these things are theoretically intended to protect you. Then again, we all know that this will lead to more abuse than actual protection. ;)

    Still, some take their privacy way too far to the point that nobody should not even know their favorite food.

  • The whole 'only criminals need be worried' argument implies that everyone involved is completely righteous and uncorruptable. Because we're talking about humans running this, it's a false assumption.

    Clord posted: »

    Note: I'm not taking sides, this is a mere observation and speculation. Things like these are more complex than it first appears. Typ

  • I wanna know who wrote it in. Probably so geriatric trog who doesn't know how to use a computer.

    Fuck the American Government! I said it! Come get me CIA! Seriously though, it sucks but there's little we can do to fight it.

  • "Only terrorists need to worry"

    I've heard that so many times since 9/11, I've lost count.

    PATRIOT Act? Only terrorists need to worry.

    "Enhanced Interviews"? Only terrorists need to worry.

    Unrestricted wiretaps, drone warfare, "extraordinary rendition" (kidnap and torture foreign nationals), NSA data collection? Only terrorists need to worry.

    The totalitarian crap piles up and the justifications stay every bit as lame.

    Clord posted: »

    Note: I'm not taking sides, this is a mere observation and speculation. Things like these are more complex than it first appears. Typ

  • It's an akwward time, we complain that Congress is never in session, yet everytime they do meet it's just to fuck over the people...

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited December 2015

    I can now confirm that it was our intrepid Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, who snuck CISA into the Omnibus Bill. Thus, I've changed the title accordingly.

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    Just another "big government when it suits me" conservative. Thanks, ya jerk...

  • The real question is, who's worse Paul Ryan? or Andrew Ryan?

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    I can now confirm that it was our intrepid Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, who snuck CISA into the Omnibus Bill. Thus, I've changed the title accordingly. Just another "big government when it suits me" conservative. Thanks, ya jerk...

  • Well they're both Ayn Rand fanboys. I would call it a draw.

    Sarangholic posted: »

    The real question is, who's worse Paul Ryan? or Andrew Ryan?

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited December 2015

    Actually Paul Ryan had to give up Rand, or at least pretend to. The Catholic Church apparently sent him a not-so-nice letter about it when he wrote that his "balanced" budget that would slash open the social safety net.

    After the archdiocese of whothefuckknows called him out on it, he back pedaled and dismissed Rand as an "atheist philosopher". At least he got the atheist part right.

    Well they're both Ayn Rand fanboys. I would call it a draw.

  • Paul Ryan seems slightly less unhinged.

    Sarangholic posted: »

    The real question is, who's worse Paul Ryan? or Andrew Ryan?

  • Well of course the church would be against Rand's philosophy. It's basically Lavey satanism.

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    Actually Paul Ryan had to give up Rand, or at least pretend to. The Catholic Church apparently sent him a not-so-nice letter about it when

  • Aaaaaand it passed. land of the free lol

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