What would do if you were President?

edited January 2016 in General Chat

If I were President I would do the following:

  1. I would put a great focus on education. I would work to having classroom sizes reduced to a maximum of 15 students, so that the classroom size would be easier for the teachers to manage, and the students would get more of an opportunity for one-on-one interaction with the teacher. Education is so vitally important because when you educate a man, you in fact liberate him.

  2. I would pull our troops out of countries like the middle east. It makes no sense to try to fix the problems that exist in other countries, when we can't even fix our own. Plus, many don't even want us in their country to begin with.
    The only time a the USA would become involved is if either we were directly attacked, or if a country specifically asked us for our help.
    Along with that, I would also not aid Iran in having nuclear weapons.

  3. I would do away with sanctuary cities like San Francisco and enact Kate's law which states that any illegal immigrant who is deported for committing a felony returns to the USA illegally serves a mandatory 5 years in prison.

  4. I would concentrate greatly on crime control. The problem with gun control is that even if you were to ban guns outright, it would not stop people from killing each other. And to blame the gun for the crime, which has no willpower, emotions, or moral conscience, is the same as blaming a dog who attacks someone for trying to harm it's owner, as just like that gun, the dog has no way to distinguish if the actions of it's owner are right or wrong.
    So instead I would hold the person responsible, and have them prosecuted, and punished.
    And I would not withhold punishment from them because of their financial status, or their social status, ( If they're rich and commit the crime, they'll get punished. If they're poor and commit a crime, they will be punished, and both will receive the same type of punishment for the same type of crime.)

  5. I would legalize all now illegal drugs as it takes the power away from the drug cartels. You're never going to stop people from doing drugs, and if you make something illegal, people wanna do it all the more. So I would have it legalized, have it taxed so we could gain the financial benefits from it, and therefore end or severely disrupt the flow of drugs coming across the border.

  6. I would enact legislation that would make the crimes of Murder, Rape, and Child Molestation mandatorily punishable by death. These people are the reasons our prison systems are so over crowded. Plus, in regards to child molesters, even if you were to castrate them that wouldn't eliminate their risk factor, as unfortunately there are websites they can log onto to communicate with each other and exchange information about potential victims. With that said I would also make it a point to have those types of websites shut down.

  7. I would enact something that according to the Mosaic Law was known as the "Tithe", where everyone was required to give 10 percent in taxes. So for example say if a poor guy only made 10 dollars that year, where as a rich guy made 10 Billion. That means that the poor guy would pay 1 dollar, where as the rich guy would pay 1 billion. Now many will say that that law is harder on the poor guy, but think about what would happen if every rich person was paying 10% every year of their yearly income? Not only would it boost the economy, but it would also put an end all the loopholes in our current tax laws. And this law would also apply to both big and small businesses as well.

  8. I would make make it so politicians, including myself, were just as accountable to the law as the average citizen. No more would politicians be able to use their influence to escape punishment for their actions. I believe that the people in Government should be just as accountable for their actions as the common citizens.

  9. Though Gay marriage is now legal, I would make it impossible for the gay couple's to sue people for discrimination based on this principle: "Say if a couple who owns a property, and they make it available to be used for weddings, but they do not believe in catering to gay ceremonies. Since THEY ARE the ones who the own property, PAY the income tax on it, and PAY for the upkeep so it can be nice for others to use, then BY DEFAULT they have EVERY RIGHT to decide how the property is used, and WHO uses it, under any given situation.
    In that case, Gay people would still be able to get married, and the rights of the property owners, including Christians, would be protected. And the same rule would apply to any small business owners, that since they are the one's who pay the taxes on the business and pay for it's upkeep, then by default they too have the right to choose whom they do business with.

  10. I would bring back the idea of the chain gang. In other words, men who are doing time, would be set to doing labor, that benefits the community, like digging flash flood ditches, repaving roads, cleaning graffiti off of walls and billboards, etc.
    Instead of sitting around, they would be contributing members of society. I would also do away with all the prison buildings, and have prisoners housed in army tents, (if they're good enough for our boys in uniform, than they're good enough for our criminals.) Plus, it would be a much cheaper way to house prisoners.

  11. I would increase Border Security. I would design an entirely new organization that has both training in law enforcement and military training, that would assist local law enforcement secure the border. I would also finish building the wall between the USA and Mexico. I have no problem with people coming to the USA, as long as they do it the right way.

  12. I would also end children being born as legal citizens in this country, if their parents are here illegally. The reason why is because children need to be with their parents, and it would end illegals being able to use their children as a loophole in the legal system in order to stay in this country. The child would still TECHNICALLY be born as a U.S. citizens, but because of not being of legal age, he would have to be sent back to to his parent's country of origin, along with his parents. His birth would be recorded by both the local hospital and by the Pentagon, and when he became of age, he would be more than able to return to America as an American citizen with the rights that go along with it.

  13. I would end all the redtape that keeps veterans, particularly disabled veterans from obtaining their benefits. With that said, I would also make disabled veterans tax-exempt. As I would for people who are on social security, or who are on disability, which is further reason for the "Tithe" law, (which can be read on number 7), to go into effect.

  14. I would allow a Gerson clinic to be built and operated here in the USA.
    The reason they're not is because of the success theyre having in treating cancer successfully using natural methods, and the pharmaceutical industry doesn't want that as it threatens their wallet. Doctor's would be able to prescribe natural treatments for their patients, instead of always having to prescribe synthetic drugs. And medical schools would also be teaching natural methods for treating illness, instead of always and only teaching how to prescribe drugs.
    I'm not anti-drug, but I believe that should be used only as a last result. (If you don't know what the Gerson clinic, then look it up.)

  15. I would make use of public transportation. For example, I would want have railroads more accessible to take people cross the country. In China they have a rail system that uses alternating magnets within inside the train tracks that pull the train along at an accelerated pace. Doing so would help cut down on pollution, which will help save the environment.

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  • I would legalize all now illegal drugs as it takes the power away from the drug cartels. You're never going to stop people from doing drugs, and if you make something illegal, people wanna do it all the more. So I would have it legalized, have it taxed so we could gain the financial benefits from it, and therefore end or severely disrupt the flow of drugs coming across the border.

    Wow! Color me surprised! I wasn't expecting this to come out of you.

    • Gives Kenny/Lee virtual high-five.
  • I agree with your ideas. But wouldn't your suggestions be opposed? What will your solution to that be?

  • I would nuke china so the Fallout starts!

  • Dunno, a bit of Stalin here, a bit of Hitler there, just a little taste of Mao and there you go, the perfect society...

  • You're forgetting to add a bit of Kim Jong-un.

    Dunno, a bit of Stalin here, a bit of Hitler there, just a little taste of Mao and there you go, the perfect society...

  • Nah, he's the third king already. It's the previous two kings that matter more in hindsight.

    papai46 posted: »

    You're forgetting to add a bit of Kim Jong-un.

  • I would give free dildos to everyone.

  • Make an executive order to change our National Anthem to Don't Tread on Me by Metallica.

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    Also required that when this song is played in school or at sporting events, instead of placing your hand on your chest, you perform an air guitar solo.

  • I would pardon all Saltlicks that have been framed for murder- it's not their fault! They're manipulated and thrown at the heads of those who are dumbass and careless!

    Saltlick2020

  • All pizza is free.

  • I'd probably do what you do Kenny/Lee, plus give Congress and Bank owners a good talking too. And one fateful day, I wish to play this message across the globe and hope all will take heed it's message:

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  • edited January 2016

    You beat me, I wanted to put this thread. We actually have a surprising amount of common ground.

    1. 15 is a bit tight, I'd go with 25 as a nation-wide standard with an emphasis on lowering to 20 by 2020.
    2. Yep.
    3. Yep.
    4. People whose dogs kill people are libel in civil court, if not criminal. I agree with your proposal, but it is pretty much how the law stands already.
    5. Really? Wow, you surpise me. You're more liberal than me. I would only go as far as to legalize marijuana - other drugs are far too harmful to legalize. Granted, I approve treatment as an alternative to prison.
    6. Yeah, no. I oppose the death penalty in all cases. Besides possible prosecutorial discretion, I still believe people should always be given the ability for redemption, no matter how likely it seems. That doesn't mean they shouldn't spend life in prison, but death, no.
    7. I believe in progressive taxes - only out of efficacy. I don't believe in 10% because I'm not Christian, but still, I don't think there should be a marginal tax rate. Those with higher rates of income should have higher (but not punitive) taxes.
    8. Wait, you're a politician? But yeah, I agree, politicians, should obey the law, I don't think anybody disagrees.
    9. I don't believe in discrimination due to religious beliefs depending on the distance to the ceremony in question. No, churches should be forced to perform gay weddings - but baking a cake is distant enough I think from the actual ceremony.

    My preposals?

    1. End of private prisons
    2. Reestablishment of Glass-Steigal
    3. Increase of minimum wage to a minimum wage (with perhaps the exception of students enrolled full time at university)
    4. Expansion of DPW
    5. Shift from fossel fuels to renewable energy with an end to oil subsidies, end of expansions of oil/coal and increased funding of renewable energy.
    6. Full funding of NASA.

    I'm sure I have more, but they'll come out in discussion.

  • Buy pizza, seems like a good start.

    Besides, I'd have the money for it.

  • Still better than our wet fart of a star spangled banner.

    Make an executive order to change our National Anthem to Don't Tread on Me by Metallica. enter link description here Also required tha

  • Well,since this thread took a bit of a sarcastic turn,I'll put here some reasonable ones:

    • First of all,I would make immigration more widespread.There are people in the Middle East willing to come to the USA to search for a better life for themselves,not only people who suffer from war ant to come to the US but even people who have no opportunities in their countries risk their lives for a job in the US or any other "first-world" countries,so if I got them here,gave them their rights as normal American citizens and offered them humane housing to live in,I would have more workforce which in return would increase the national income (not by a lot though since it would cost more to take care of all those new people that entered the states).So,no more Green Card BS,if you're suffering from disasters,or have the will to come to the USA and work as a normal citizen there,then you're absolutely welcome.
    • I would decrease the influence that the USA has on the world,so for instance:Americans who commit crimes abroad have no right to come back home to escape from legal questioning.I would count more examples but I think you got the point already so,yeah.
    • I would legalize all outlawed drugs but could only be used under an official medical license.
    • Since gay marriage has become legal,I would take it a step further and allow any kind of marriage as long as the couple are fully sexually developed,so things like incest,half-incest and multiple wives/husbands marriages would be all fine,but things like pedophilia would still be illegal since one of the partners wouldn't be fully sexually developed.
    • Finally,after all that drama around the world ends (if it does),I would run for world piece,the USA would be declared as a fully neutral country and would cut all it's military related alliances,I feel America should be the godfather of this world,watching all the other countries in silence as it tries to hold the piece within the world.

    P.S. I'm not from the USA,so feel free to point out any mistakes and/or contradictions that you may find ;)

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited January 2016

    Democracy Scenerio

    1.) Break up the banks, until a more permanent solution can be found.

    2.) Institute highly-progressive tax rate that taxes all yearly income above 500k at 90% or more. Similarly, GREATLY increase taxes on corporations. Speculation tax too.

    3.) Single-payer healthcare.

    4.) Subsidize more clean energy and nuclear.

    5.) Find a way to block Citizens United. Stop the congressional brain drain by reversing the privatization of the legislative process.

    6.) Legalize all drugs with doctor oversight. Carefully release drug prisoners. Abolish the DEA.

    7.) Reverse the "three strikes" laws, get rid of the death penalty.

    8.) No more private prisons, no more solitary confinement, you finish your parole and that part of your record gets sealed.

    9.) Try to cut defense costs.

    10.) $15/hr. minimum wage. Outlaw tipping and associated underpaying in most situations.

    11.) Attack car culture. Try to subsidize public transportation.

    12.) Overhaul urban schools.

    13.) Phase out the DHS. Take a hard look at the NSA, CIA and ATF.

    Revolution Scenerio

    1.) Throw the big bankers and oligarchs in prison, redistribute their wealth. Partially redistribute the wealth of the bourgeoisie.

    2.) Nationalize the energy sector. Fund public transportation, green technology, etc.

    3.) Collectivize businesses and turn them into worker co-ops wherever possible.

    4.) Gradually phase out the landlord system and eventually the concept of private property in favor of personal property.

    5.) Gradually change the nature of wages to reflect labor, rather than one's position the the rat race.

    6.) Bring most of the troops home.

    7.) Abolish two-party system in favor of transitional one-party system.

    8.) Pretty much everything else under the Democracy section.

    There's probably a lot more I'm forgetting.

  • edited January 2016

    Judge it if I was the American president

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    The fact a lot of people will sleep on the streets without a meal today In America while their are so many billionaires in America is a joke in Ireland 5% of population has 50% of the whole wealth of the country so beyond a certain wealth once a billion reached anything beyond it will go straight to taxes and providing food/shelter for the poor and struggling families. No more billionaires in my country while there are people homeless without a meal.

    Cut the military budget and use it to make college free and provide a fixed wage so the students can pay rent and eat as well as attend college like my country your genius will no long be decided by the amount of money you have but the work you put in. It make the smartest raise to the top instead of the richest making the country stronger and better in every aspect no more lost potential.

    Severely Obese children will now be seen as child abuse by the parents they must attend meetings at their local schools about healthy eating and schools will provide lots of afterschool fitness programmes and provide healthy food for their children

    Cigarettes will be banned no more breathing in that bs for me or anyone.

    Make healthy food cheaper and junk food more expensive

    I'd deport @saltlick123 to mexico as his an illegal

    Have free therapy to all children and adults who show extreme need for it suicidal.

    As part of examination in all colleges will be a week in the wilderness in a poor country with a tribe to get some perceptive of real troubles and struggles or any students complaining of PTSD from a twitter row will serve military service to make their blogs more legit and helpful to actual suffers.

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    yep :I ^

    Tumblr will be shut down and extra rehabilitation classes in school/college will be provided to former users to catch up in education to others students before to late.

    All gun owners will face a lot of psychology checks yearly

    Leo Di Caprio and Tom Hardy will win an Oscar

    Add more later

  • edited January 2016
    1. Abolish the constitution
    2. Make all immigration illegal, anyone coming in will be shot on sight
    3. authorize the use of lethal force against peaceful protesters
    4. cut down on education spending and instead triple our military spending
    5. bring back the draft
    6. invade Iran, then use their super secret nuclear missiles to obliterate the Middle East (Except for Israel)
    7. Make the country a Christian theocracy
    8. but most of all, I want big government out of businesses

    TED CRUZ 2016

  • Buy games and consoles, hehehe.

  • I like our anthem, it's just that this is, you know, Metallica.

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    Still better than our wet fart of a star spangled banner.

  • Not allowing gays to do something that everyone else can is just a step back.

  • edited January 2016

    It works both ways. If a gay couple owns, say a funeral home and a plot of land, and they want to have a gay only cemetery, nothing he said would prevent them from doing so.

    Edit: He's mostly concerned with religious organizations not being forced to do things that go against their beliefs. Now when it comes to their organizations, doing things on their plots of land, I really don't see an issue with it. I don't think places like clothes stores or eateries should be able to discriminate based on gender or sexual preference, but I do think that nonessential organizations should be allowed to have the right to their privacy and self governance.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    Not allowing gays to do something that everyone else can is just a step back.

  • edited January 2016
    1. Slowly begin to strangle power away from congress.
    2. Take all the power.
    3. United Dictatorship of America
    4. Face American Revolution
    5. N00kz
    6. Die knowing I united the American people to fight a common cause
    7. Be revered 80 years later by crazy people over the internet that think I did nothing wrong

    EDIT:
    3.5 - Buy SOOOOO many Steam Wallet cards.

  • I agree with most of that, but incest should probably be illegal because of the high risk of health problems for their child. I guess you could write a law that allows incest but punishes siblings who have children together, but that seems way too complicated, and pregnancies would still happen all over the place. Better to just keep it altogether illegal.

    Also, wtf if "half-incest"? Do I even want to know?

    ZapThroat posted: »

    Well,since this thread took a bit of a sarcastic turn,I'll put here some reasonable ones: * First of all,I would make immigration more

  • Maybe,but if a lot of people protested for "incest rights",then you have to find a way.I'd say that before the siblings get officially married,they could sign an agreement that says that the parents hold full responsibility for their child(ren)'s health condition and that the government is not responsible for any diseases that products of incest may face.

    And for that I admit,I made that phrase up,it refers to relatives that are not (directly) blood related like cousins and siblings in law,whatever.

    mosfet posted: »

    I agree with most of that, but incest should probably be illegal because of the high risk of health problems for their child. I guess you co

  • I don't know what I would do but I know for a fact that I wouldn't be a good president at all

  • Since I was tagged I'll respond with my personal thoughts on some stuff :)

    The fact a lot of people will sleep on the streets without a meal today In America while their are so many billionaires in America is a joke in Ireland 5% of population has 50% of the whole wealth of the country so beyond a certain wealth once a billion reached anything beyond it will go straight to taxes and providing food/shelter for the poor and struggling families. No more billionaires in my country while there are people homeless without a meal.

    Agreed but what I don't like is when we're talking about making "emergency housing" for Syrian Refugees (when a lot of them are young males) when we have homeless Americans and veterans, that's what pisses me off.

    Severely Obese children will now be seen as child abuse by the parents they must attend meetings at their local schools about healthy eating and schools will provide lots of afterschool fitness programmes and provide healthy food for their children

    Well, some might have a serious medical thing or something but for the most part: okay.

    Cigarettes will be banned no more breathing in that bs for me or anyone.

    I think in private people can do that but yeah, I think in public it should be banned and is the equivalent of doing drugs in public basically.

    I'd deport @saltlick123 to mexico as his an illegal

    Well, I'm was born in America, my "Saltlick Birth Givers" are Americans, the meat locker is on American soil and I've never immigrated so if you want to deport me- you'll have to come yourself and throw me out.

    Have free therapy to all children and adults who show extreme need for it suicidal.

    That would be nice.

    As part of examination in all colleges will be a week in the wilderness in a poor country with a tribe to get some perceptive of real troubles and struggles or any students complaining of PTSD from a twitter row will serve military service to make their blogs more legit and helpful to actual suffers.

    From a hardcore liberal point of view : HOW DARE YOU SAY ALL POOR COUNTRIES HAVE TRIBES AND ARE THAT PRIMITIVE YOU ASSUMING RACIST YOU'RE IGNORANT AND DON'T RECOGNIZE YOUR PRIVILEGES BLALALAOHHHHHHH

    Since I'm not a nitpicking liberal, to those tweets I'll say #FirstWorldStruggles

    All gun owners will face a lot of psychology checks yearly

    Well...define "psychology checks yearly"- that seems like a kind of vague term for what you could do....

    Leo Di Caprio and Tom Hardy will win an Oscar

    I think Leo should win (but I can imagine it gong to Eddie because he played a woman...snubbing at its finest) and I'm not sure if Tom Hardy will win, I can imagine any of the Oscar nominees for Best Supporting Actor except for that guy from Bridge of Spies for some reason.

    Add more later

    Shia LaBeouf voice: JUST DO IT

    Markd4547 posted: »

    Judge it if I was the American president The fact a lot of people will sleep on the streets without a meal today In America while the

    1. Good but not enough, IMO. Public prisons can be just as abusive sometimes. For instance the way we use long-term solitary as a punishment is pretty despicable,
    2. Agree
    3. Hey, we college students need to make money too. $15 for everyone, I say.
    4. Agree.
    5. I would love this, but I can't see it happening under capitalism.
    6. Agree, within reason. No "Star Wars" projects.

    Do you still want to abolish the DHS?

    Sarangholic posted: »

    You beat me, I wanted to put this thread. We actually have a surprising amount of common ground. * 15 is a bit tight, I'd go with 25 as

  • edited January 2016

    Well let me just say for the record, I am not liberal.
    Rather I'm Conservative.
    But as far as legalizing all drugs, as I said you will NEVER stop people from doing them, so in that case I would rather get some kind of control on it.

    I would never force churches to perform gay marriage, and I'm not sure why you even would think that?
    You may wish to go back and read number 9 real careful.

    9 is not about discriminating over distance to the wedding.

    What it is is protecting the right of the property owner to decide how his property is used and by who.
    If you don't own or pay the taxes on a property, than you don't get to use it how you want.
    I'm not gonna outlaw gay marriage, but I'm not gonna let gay people use the law to bully others into getting their way.

    If someone doesn't want to cater to a gay wedding based on his religious principles, than his feelings should be upheld and respected. He should not be forced into doing something he has moral objections to.

    Sarangholic posted: »

    You beat me, I wanted to put this thread. We actually have a surprising amount of common ground. * 15 is a bit tight, I'd go with 25 as

  • I tend to disagree with you on most things, but on this thread I find myself agreeing with most everything you said, even if it's only partially. One thing I will say is that I don't think places like grocery stores, or hospitals, or things like that should be able to discriminate no matter what their religious beliefs are. Things like funeral homes, and wedding caterers though, I agree.

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    Well let me just say for the record, I am not liberal. Rather I'm Conservative. But as far as legalizing all drugs, as I said you will NEV

  • Not build a wall.

    1. That's basically a start, yes, there need to be tons of prison reforms, specifically to shift the emphasis from punishment to rehabilitation. Long-term solitary confinement is tortune (look at how they treated Chelsea Manning), and should be banned except for in extreme cases (like literally if the prisoner is going to try and kill people, and then even then in that case they probably need some sort of therapy).
    2. Well, free tuition would be another priority - but yeah, thinking it over there would be way too many problems to a double standard for minimum wage. I was saying that as a response to the idea that if you're in college, your miminum wage job isn't for supporting yourself, but even that isn't true, even just thinking back to my roommate. So yeah, dumb proposal. Minimum living wage for all.
    3. Agree. I want further exploration and research, not militarization. I suppose I should add I'd take a lot out of the military budget (at least back to pre-2001 levels with a re-emphasis on intellegence to combat terrorism, and perhaps incentives through foreign aid, though I'm just throwing that last half out there.)

    Yes, I would still say abolish DHS and instead create a joint CIA-FBI taskforce to fight domestic/international terrorism. I wouldn't say it's one of my top priorities though. Ending domesetic spying is, however.

    Actually, I'd say if anything is difficult under the current it would be prison reform. You have far too many people in America who demonize prisoners and literally say that they've given up their rights as people. Replacing oil subsidies with green subsidies may have more lobbyist opposition (though private prisons have a strong lobby), but it would probably be easier to feed to the public, I think.

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    * Good but not enough, IMO. Public prisons can be just as abusive sometimes. For instance the way we use long-term solitary as a punishmen

  • Well just like Obama has been fighting to destroy this country, and the Bill of Rights, I would fight like hell to get it back on track.

    I agree with your ideas. But wouldn't your suggestions be opposed? What will your solution to that be?

  • Well let me just say for the record, I am not liberal. Rather I'm Conservative.

    I think we all know lol.

    I'm not hugely strong for drug legalization, but I do think the emphasis needs to be shifted from punishment to treatment. Another alternative is to criminalize possession only over a certain amount (an amount to be a dealer rather than a seller), as Canada does (or at least did).

    I'm not saying you would force Churches, I'm just saying if you're going to have a religious exception, religious institutions like churches is where you would give it.

    Just curious, do you think people should have the right to refuse service to black people? I don't think property rights are sacrosanct. We have regulations over what you can and can't do with your business (and that includes environmental regulation - that is also telling people what they can and can't do), and I don't think banning people from discriminating against other groups of people is beyond the reach of government. I understand the religious exception argument, but I don't think it's very value. Can a private business say 'No Jews?' or 'No Muslims.' And 'the free market will fix it' is not a valid excuse. Businesses were pretty happy with segregation in the past, and it required government, not the free market, to fix it. Also, the Supreme Court already ruled that religious exception only has a certain range (the case was based on Native American tribes smoking marijuana for religious reasons. Guess how the court ruled?)

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    Well let me just say for the record, I am not liberal. Rather I'm Conservative. But as far as legalizing all drugs, as I said you will NEV

  • Drink presidential water.

  • No im not a politician.
    But in the position of President, yes I would be a politician.

    Sarangholic posted: »

    You beat me, I wanted to put this thread. We actually have a surprising amount of common ground. * 15 is a bit tight, I'd go with 25 as

  • My problem isn't about the government facing legal liability. Its about bringing a child into the world under dangerous circumstances. Its not a baby's fault his/her parents were siblings, but he/she will be the one suffering the consequences. Any government that made children of incest more common is morally responsible in my mind, legal liability be damned.

    If a big incest movement actually existed, I might reconsider, but it doesn't and I can't imagine one springing up any time soon. The stigma is really strong, and there are medical reasons not to allow it. You would get opposition from both religious and scientific people. Being anti-incest is about as universal a position as you can get.

    ZapThroat posted: »

    Maybe,but if a lot of people protested for "incest rights",then you have to find a way.I'd say that before the siblings get officially marri

  • edited January 2016

    Well here's the thing, what I'm interested in is protecting the consciences of every American.
    My law wouldn't lend itself to racial discrimination.
    Far from it!
    In fact race has nothing to do with it.

    But the point is is that there are still people in this country who are against homosexuality.
    Based on their religious convictions, they view homosexuality as morally wrong, and that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to get married, period.
    (I'm sorry if that's offensive, but that is how many still feel, as I'm sure you are well aware of.)

    The point is that what number 9 would do is not only protect religious people's moral convictions, but it will also protect the right of property owners to decide who uses their property, and how they use it.
    You don't get to decide what you do on someone else's property, regardless of who you are, or whether you agree or disagree with the rules they set.

    That's not to say homosexuals can't get married.
    The idea simply is is to ensure that respect is given on both sides.
    And as a society, we need to start treating each other with respect, even when we disagree with them, or when they say "No".

    Also, I've added a few things that I would do, that you might wanna check out.

    Sarangholic posted: »

    Well let me just say for the record, I am not liberal. Rather I'm Conservative. I think we all know lol. I'm not hugely strong fo

  • Wow, we have almost exactly the same platform. Although I don't know what you mean by "Congressional Brain Drain." I didn't know there was a brain to drain. Joking aside, do you mean getting rid of the revolving door? Because as far a brain drain goes, I'd if any job type is doing it it's the brightest giving up science in favor of finance.

    I'm also not particularly in favor of collectivization. Organized labor with teeth, yes, but people being able to start and grow their own businesses is important both economically and in terms of rights.

    BigBlindMax posted: »

    Democracy Scenerio 1.) Break up the banks, until a more permanent solution can be found. 2.) Institute highly-progressive tax rate th

  • My point is that 'protecting the right of the property owner' is not and cannot be absolute. There are restrictions, as with the example of discriminating based on race. But even other examples of 'religious conviction' could be, like I said, people of other religions, or atheists, or even divorcees etc. Can businesses refuse services to divorcees? The same laws which protect against those kinds of discrimination equally protect against discrimination due to sexual orientation, it's pretty hard to get rid of the one without the other.

    Regardless of how immoral I think such a stance is, my main point is that it isn't legally feasible. The only thing I suppose you could remove sexual orientation as a protected class, in which case you also refuse to hire people who are gay (which, unless that was included in the Supreme Court decision, I believe is still legal in a lot of states - and as to the state's where it is illegal, you'd have to amend the constitution to specifically state that sexual orientation is not a protected class in terms of discrimination laws).

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    Well here's the thing, what I'm interested in is protecting the consciences of every American. My law wouldn't lend itself to racial discri

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