Thoughts on current YouTube Situations?

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  • edited February 2016

    I'm glad this is getting attention, it's nice to see viewers are getting concerned for their favorite content creators or just any obscure content creator in general.

    YouTube copyright:This has not only affected Channel Awesome, but I Hate Everything. IHE got his channel taken down for a single video which had no malicious content in it. All he did was destroy DVDs of The Little Panda Fighter. His channel is back of course, but just like Doug, he's never gotten an answer to why his channel was taken down. Just like them, everyone is confused and scared. YouTube hasn't commented on it and the company is continuing to go on like nothing is going on. There's more to this, such as networks claiming videos like Fullscreen or Polaris/Maker to silence creators.

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    "React" World: What hasn't been said about this at this point? I'm sure the hundreds of videos can cover this topic better than I can in a single forum post. They dropped the trademarks, they're cancelling React World, and will fix the copyright claims or strikes that have hit channels. However, they've made a huge mistake of announcing this on a blog post. The majority of their audience, which is slowly declining still, won't see it. They need to make an update video on this situation and not take it down like they've down with anything affiliated with React World.

  • edited February 2016

    Censorship, coming to an Internet Channel near you.

    I used to be on a web forums with a group of people who celebrated military music... soul purpose was to chat, talk and help the dev there find and make new videos, he needed source material including archival footage, photos and sources for film to fit the era/period of the videos ranging from 1700's to Present. Someone or a group of people didn't like his German Channel called Deutsches Vaterland, started getting a lot of attention after he started it, didn't matter he also had a Russian, Italian, and Japanese Channel that served the same purpose but for those respected countries. Ran into some very nasty stalkers, insults, his website was constantly being hacked and attacked as well..... a year into the project he gave up, wrote a letter about it to everyone in his community about it, was a sad day for us all. Internet bullied out of his passion.

    In short, these youtubers should feel lucky they only get a channel closed down by some random nerd half way across the globe who isn't worth a darn to society itself, it can be considerably worse if you upset the wrong people.

    Luckily for people like me though he had a lot of fans all his videos are still on youtube, scattered across it under lots of users from all his old channels. So the music never stopped, just the master. My favorite being Fridericus Rex. hehe

  • I completely agree with you! On the topic of YouTube Copyright, it seems that they'll only do something about channels that lost monetization or have been taken down if there are a bunch of people who are willing to voice their concerns/anger/disagreement with the action, YouTube probably won't speak about this situation or try to prevent it until it starts to get allot of bad press and media and starts driving people away which evidently it has already as some content creators have been to work inclusively by uploading videos to multiple sites rather than exclusively uploading videos on YouTube, some are close or already have 'migrated' to another video uploading site that provides monetization, one of which is Vimeo I believe. I fear that some of my favorite YouTubers, specifically the smaller ones that YouTube has pretty much ignored over the years will be ok.

    As for 'React World' - I'm not going to believe a word until I see actual action, I think they should post a video apologizing and proving that they've done what they state they have, some Users are still claiming that they still have trademarks to certain reactions such as 'Elders React' which a YouTuber named ˗ˏˋ It's Becky Boop ˎˊ˗ made a video that discussed this topic and showed how The Fine Brothers actual stole this concept off a smaller Channel which was then taken down by The Fine Brothers and they pretty much lied when they said they wouldn't enforce the trademark on everyone, legally, they have to, if they want to keep their trademark and the ambiguity of 'their' platform is really the only reason they can take videos and channels down/attack them(they've called onto their fans numerous times to attack videos like BuzzFeed and The Ellen Show that supposedly copied their format), the more I read about their history, the more respect I lose for them. I'm not going to believe everything they said on a blog post where you can't even see the comments others have made, I want proof of their word. Actions speak louder than words, it's difficult not to be skeptical about their ideals.

    kristi78968 posted: »

    I'm glad this is getting attention, it's nice to see viewers are getting concerned for their favorite content creators or just any obscure c

  • edited February 2016

    Update: I apologize that the video no longer works as The Fine Brothers have deleted both the React World Announcement and Update videos. Most likely due to the huge backlash and negative feedback they've received and possibly an attempt to decrease their decline of Subscribers.

  • Oddly being I wouldn't be surprised if most of their subscribers didn't visit their channel anymore anyways. I forgot they even existed as well... it kind of ended up less entertaining after a while. lol

    prink34320 posted: »

    Update: I apologize that the video no longer works as The Fine Brothers have deleted both the React World Announcement and Update videos. Mo

  • YouTube probably won't speak about this situation

    Which is odd, because they did speak out the worries of YouTube Red and even changed their stance on payment for the trial month of Red; they said content creators would not get paid but after the backlash they 180'ed on the situation. This is worse than Red, because unlike a pay cut, this could ruin someone's livelihood. That is why they NEED to state this, because people are starting to get wind of it. Maybe Pewdiepie needs to make a video. He's their biggest guy so if he starts complaining, then change will happen. Sad that's the case, but it's just how YouTube operates.

    As for React World: It's nice you say that because I got done with a Skype call with my friend an hour ago talking about 'React World' briefly. I don't trust them either, my friend even stated how down the road TheFineBros could just bring this back. AlphaOmegaSin talked about this in his lastest video on the situation.

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    TheFineBros need to stop acting like they've made React channels when in reality they've only made it popular and successful. It's like slowbeef constantly claiming he made video LPs, which he actually did but you don't see him going around about it. Nor do you see him trademarking the name.

    prink34320 posted: »

    I completely agree with you! On the topic of YouTube Copyright, it seems that they'll only do something about channels that lost monetizatio

  • edited February 2016

    I wonder if something is happening behind the scenes that makes YouTube worry about addressing the issue, or perhaps they can't address the issue which might give them more backlash and negative feedback geared towards the company, although I agree, I find it odd that they don't at least say they know there's an issue and they're working on a way to fix it, at least people would be understand and allot would be a bit more content.

    I'm disappointed in how they think - like they own Reaction videos just because they're the biggest reaction channel and they act as though they're the boss of the whole genre even though they subtly copied reaction videos, heck even some of their reaction series were ripped off from other earlier Channels, I've grown up respecting these guys and I'm ashamed to see them act this way. I think we should all still be worried, I agree that they could just launch the whole operation back up, but if they ever trademark react, whether they like it or not, they're going to end up ending an entire Genre or at least make their Channel the only thing that can have reaction videos and it strings far from YouTube since they tried to attack The Ellen Show which is on Television and not YouTube primarily, trademarks are quite terrifying at times.

    I'm glad that allot of people care about this situation, I'm hopeful that big YouTubers will speak about this, although I hope it doesn't take their own Channel being shut down or for their monetization to end in order for them to see the situation.

    kristi78968 posted: »

    YouTube probably won't speak about this situation Which is odd, because they did speak out the worries of YouTube Red and even chang

  • found this

    Me: Help i'm allergic to peanut butter
    Fine Bros: Are you having an allergic reaction?
    Me: Yes, call an ambulance.
    Fine Bros: See you in court

  • Oh my gosh lol

    found this Me: Help i'm allergic to peanut butter Fine Bros: Are you having an allergic reaction? Me: Yes, call an ambulance. Fine Bros: See you in court

  • You've officially earned a pair of sunglasses on your avatar... someone pass this man a pair of sunglasses stat!

    found this Me: Help i'm allergic to peanut butter Fine Bros: Are you having an allergic reaction? Me: Yes, call an ambulance. Fine Bros: See you in court

  • You can keep thinking all that.

  • edited February 2016

    Well help me, I am getting sued by Fine Bros, because I reacted by laughing to your lovely post!

    found this Me: Help i'm allergic to peanut butter Fine Bros: Are you having an allergic reaction? Me: Yes, call an ambulance. Fine Bros: See you in court

  • Well in case you somehow didn't catch what I was saying, it's that you're wrong.

    First, instinct isn't all you need, especially when making a claim. Secondly, when you make a claim you should tend to have evidence for it.

  • I saw that one too. I laughed when I saw that comment XD

    found this Me: Help i'm allergic to peanut butter Fine Bros: Are you having an allergic reaction? Me: Yes, call an ambulance. Fine Bros: See you in court

  • It's not going down as fast as before, but their subscribe numbers are still decreasing.

    prink34320 posted: »

    Update: I apologize that the video no longer works as The Fine Brothers have deleted both the React World Announcement and Update videos. Mo

  • I never said for everything, I said sometimes. Actually read what I wrote.

    Oh trust me, I am, you rather me put everything word for word? Alright, I'll fix it then.

    Instinct isn't what you only need in any situations, it's useful in making choices based on morality or conscience but at the same time you need a strong logical stance to make your claims.

    Again, I really don't give enough of a fuck to find evidence. I have too many of my own problems to go around the net looking for evidence for something I'm not invested in, not to mention I don't give a fuck.

    Good for you, I realize you don't care, it's not hard to figure that out when you call all politicians "faggots". Although if you really didn't care you would've dropped this and moved on with your life. Now, if you don't want to find evidence to fit your claim, don't make claims.

  • edited February 2016

    Sorry, double post x.x a notification told me that there was an error processing my request.

  • Update - There seems to be a rivalry going on between two Channels - specifically Tyrone Magnus and GradeAUnderA, although other 'Reactors' are being brought into this rivalry after they were insulted by a video GradeAUnderA made. It seems that Reactions are getting more and more popular, many people defended against The Fine Brother's plans to, in a way, take over the Reaction Genre and it's a quickly growing Genre as several Reaction based Channels have passed the 1 Million Subscriber mark, some big Channels such as Epic Rap Battles like Reaction videos, however, some such as IHateEverything and GradeAUnderA have expressed their dislike towards Reaction videos and have made the argument that Reaction videos count as theft regardless of the Fair Use Policy. It's a growing argument, started last year I believe? It's causing allot of conflict on YouTube, even Pewdiepie has noticed Reaction videos and mentioned it in one of his streams.

  • Oh boy, as someone who likes both IHE and GradeAUnderA, I've seen how upset reactors and their fans can get when someone expressed their dislike for reaction videos.

    Here is my thing, I only like H3H3 and Chadtronic. They do not just sit there for 10-20 minutes with a blank expression while showing the video in its entirety. They edit and only show the interesting reactions. Not only that, but they don't show the video in the corner. What they do is show a tiny clip of a video that is interesting and then it cuts back to them for a reaction.

    Neither shows the video in its entirety which is nice. That is what TheFineBros technically did as well, but well, we all know why they're hated now. I am not the only one who thinks this, even IHE and TearofGrace concluded in their videos that people like H3H3 and Chad are the only good reaction channels. (IHE also mentioned KindaFunny)

    I haven't watched Tyrone's videos on the subject because I do not want to waste my time hearing someone make theories as to why GradeAUnderA hates him.

    prink34320 posted: »

    Update - There seems to be a rivalry going on between two Channels - specifically Tyrone Magnus and GradeAUnderA, although other 'Reactors'

  • Well, you should be fine for now since they dropped the trademark!

    Well help me, I am getting sued by Fine Bros, because I reacted by laughing to your lovely post!

  • Well whether any Channel is good is subjective but I can't disagree with you on H3H3 and Chadtronic xD I must say they are very entertaining.

    As for showing the video in it's entirety, Reactors have seemed to be cutting videos except the videos they have permission to show in full even if though they can use Fair Use to show the video in it's entirety, many have stopped doing that after the whole Jinx and JacksFilms argument, plus Jinx has quit doing Reactions, I believe he's just going to do music and possibly other things now, he lost quite allot of Subscribers due to that, near the amount The Fine Brothers did in the first day React World was announced.

    I've seen his side of things and I must say, although I don't want to take part in this argument, it's not very fair for GradeAUnderA to state that Tyrone Magnus did something bad that can't be resolved by interacting with one another without stating the actual problem, I feel that intentionally waiting a week to upload a video about his problem with another individual is just a way to continue drama and get a reaction back from Tyrone, I'm not trying to judge but I gave GradeA a chance when he only had around 200K Subscribers since I found his videos funny but I personally support Tyrone Magnus in this because he's earned my respect, which isn't something I hand out easily, how he took the situation surprised me, he reacted back to GradeA using logic and reasoning, in a calm matter as well. The main reason I'm not supporting GradeA is because he chose to insult multiple people, even Reaction Channels that are doing more than Reactions on their Channel, actually giving insight and cutting parts of videos they have no permission to fully show, just in my perspective, there was no need to do that.

    I think I'll just wait to see how this turns out, hopefully it doesn't erupt into something continuous.

    kristi78968 posted: »

    Oh boy, as someone who likes both IHE and GradeAUnderA, I've seen how upset reactors and their fans can get when someone expressed their dis

  • You should see the Dislikes on most of their current videos, people are still angry at them since I don't think allot of people knew about their cough 'apology' cough which was linked on their Twitter where only a small fraction(1/10 I believe?) of their Subscribers go to and was written on a Website were viewing other comments is disabled and the site itself isn't exactly well known.

    Lilacsbloom posted: »

    It's not going down as fast as before, but their subscribe numbers are still decreasing.

  • edited February 2016

    I used to watch Tyrone and I don't hate him even now. I would rather wait until his response video to GradeA instead of listening to speculation on drama is all I'm saying.

    EDIT: Retracting my statement about how they could have communicated. Apparently, communication happened but it was brief.

    EDIT 2: I do agree with you that what GradeA is doing isn't fair. It rubs me the wrong way and I don't know why he's anticipating it as if it's a huge release. I think Keemstar rubbed off on him a little bit. :/

    prink34320 posted: »

    Well whether any Channel is good is subjective but I can't disagree with you on H3H3 and Chadtronic xD I must say they are very entertaining

  • I just hope in the end they can find a middle ground and solve their issues and get along, I don't feel any of these YouTube battles are necessary, they always lead to big drama and usually fade away after a while once a mutual understanding is made. Here's for the best!

    kristi78968 posted: »

    I used to watch Tyrone and I don't hate him even now. I would rather wait until his response video to GradeA instead of listening to specula

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