Showing someone's sexuality doesn't mean romance. Leia and Han were married, and that wasn't all about romance. Heck, with that in the original trilogy, what we got from Han after Leia said she loved him, was "I know".
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for gay representation, I just don't really like romance or relationships at all, especially in Star Wars. We all remember what happened last time they tried that.
I don't get why people get all up in arms because the creators of the new Star Wars films stated that they want to be inclusive. People seem to think that people creating characters with varying ethnicities, sexualities, and genders is somehow wrong if the reason that they did it was because they want to strive to be inclusive.
But, my question is: why is it wrong? The story is good, people enjoy The Force Awakens. It got rave reviews, from both fans and critics. The story doesn't suffer because two of the main characters are a woman and a black man. It's also fair to say that since they handled inclusion well there, the story won't suffer when they add an LGBT character (which is not necessarily going to be Luke, as no one even ever officially said that they would be exploring Luke's sexuality in a film - and Jedi masters usually don't have romantic relationships anyway, so we probably never will find out - so everyone's probably up in arms over nothing).
So why is so much of the internet up upset because they want to be inclusive? If the story is good, and the characters are well written and portrayed well, why does it matter the reason why they want to include a diverse group of people?
Meh, what do I think about Luke possibly being gay? I think it was just Mark Hamil being nice and open to people so I doubt they're gonna ma… moreke Luke gay and if anything, the character might have had a child before so yeah....
(posting this for the hell of it)
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I posted the video because I thought it was funny :P
People seem to think that people creating characters with varying ethnicities, sexualities, and genders is somehow wrong if the reason that they did it was because they want to strive to be inclusive.
Honestly, I don't really care what the sexuality, ethnicity, or gender is of a character but I'm annoyed when it seems like they're doing it only because they want to be inclusive and put that ahead of the actual character themself so I'm trying to say that for me, I get annoyed when they make a gay or other group of character and go like "Well, they're gay so we don't need to add any more detail or depth to them", (I'm not saying Star Wars is doing that though)
But, my question is: why is it wrong? The story is good, people enjoy The Force Awakens. It got rave reviews, from both fans and critics. The story doesn't suffer because two of the main characters are a woman and a black man. It's also fair to say that since they handled inclusion well there, the story won't suffer when they add an LGBT character (which is not necessarily going to be Luke, as no one even ever officially said that they would be exploring Luke's sexuality in a film - and Jedi masters usually don't have romantic relationships anyway, so we probably never will find out - so everyone's probably up in arms over nothing).
Well, I didn't like The Force Awakens and didn't think the story was good anyways but yeah, I don't think the two main characters being a woman and black man were the reasons at all. Again, I don't think Luke will be gay, I think it was Mark Hamil just trying to be nice, and that people are making a big deal over something that probably won't happen. Even though Jedi usually don't have relationships, you could say that Luke is different than the ones in the prequels and I won't be surprised if it turns out he was in a relationship but I think it would have been with woman- I guess we'll find out what happens next.
So why is so much of the internet up upset because they want to be inclusive? If the story is good, and the characters are well written and portrayed well, why does it matter the reason why they want to include a diverse group of people?
Well....It is the internet, people make big deals out of a lot of things lol. I'm fine with being inclusive as long as the characters actually are well written and the case isn't that because they're being inclusive they decide to get lazy.
I don't get why people get all up in arms because the creators of the new Star Wars films stated that they want to be inclusive. People see… morem to think that people creating characters with varying ethnicities, sexualities, and genders is somehow wrong if the reason that they did it was because they want to strive to be inclusive.
But, my question is: why is it wrong? The story is good, people enjoy The Force Awakens. It got rave reviews, from both fans and critics. The story doesn't suffer because two of the main characters are a woman and a black man. It's also fair to say that since they handled inclusion well there, the story won't suffer when they add an LGBT character (which is not necessarily going to be Luke, as no one even ever officially said that they would be exploring Luke's sexuality in a film - and Jedi masters usually don't have romantic relationships anyway, so we probably never will find out - so everyone's probably up … [view original content]
It depends. If the character had been already established as straight, then yes, it's unnecessary. However, if there were no hints of his sexuality, then I don't see the problem.
The only time I ever felt like people adding in characters with multiple ethnicities, sexualities, or genders felt like it was tacked on was when they were doing it to make those people the comic relief. Both because it's incredibly distracting, and because it doesn't really make sense to add them to try to be inclusive when you're excluding them from the rest of the cast by making them the butt of the jokes. I don't think we'll have to worry about that in the new Star Wars trilogy though.
I posted the video because I thought it was funny :P
People seem to think that people creating characters with varying ethnicities, se… morexualities, and genders is somehow wrong if the reason that they did it was because they want to strive to be inclusive.
Honestly, I don't really care what the sexuality, ethnicity, or gender is of a character but I'm annoyed when it seems like they're doing it only because they want to be inclusive and put that ahead of the actual character themself so I'm trying to say that for me, I get annoyed when they make a gay or other group of character and go like "Well, they're gay so we don't need to add any more detail or depth to them", (I'm not saying Star Wars is doing that though)
But, my question is: why is it wrong? The story is good, people enjoy The Force Awakens. It got rave reviews, from both fans and critics. The story doesn't suffer because two of the main characters are a woman and a… [view original content]
I've seen that and sometimes I've seen it where the character just doesn't do anything: they're in the background and the fact that they're different from the other characters is mentioned but they're just there so the filmmakers can say "Oh, we had a character of this group in it for like 5 seconds, yay for inclusion!". I'm not really sure if I'm going to care for the new Star Wars trilogy but the inclusion part has nothing to do with it however I'll probably end up going with people to see them anyways :P
The only time I ever felt like people adding in characters with multiple ethnicities, sexualities, or genders felt like it was tacked on was… more when they were doing it to make those people the comic relief. Both because it's incredibly distracting, and because it doesn't really make sense to add them to try to be inclusive when you're excluding them from the rest of the cast by making them the butt of the jokes. I don't think we'll have to worry about that in the new Star Wars trilogy though.
So why is so much of the internet up upset because they want to be inclusive? If the story is good, and the characters are well written and portrayed well, why does it matter the reason why they want to include a diverse group of people?
Homestly, I think it's the gamergate crowd milking more clicks and views out of their fifteen minutes of fame.
I don't get why people get all up in arms because the creators of the new Star Wars films stated that they want to be inclusive. People see… morem to think that people creating characters with varying ethnicities, sexualities, and genders is somehow wrong if the reason that they did it was because they want to strive to be inclusive.
But, my question is: why is it wrong? The story is good, people enjoy The Force Awakens. It got rave reviews, from both fans and critics. The story doesn't suffer because two of the main characters are a woman and a black man. It's also fair to say that since they handled inclusion well there, the story won't suffer when they add an LGBT character (which is not necessarily going to be Luke, as no one even ever officially said that they would be exploring Luke's sexuality in a film - and Jedi masters usually don't have romantic relationships anyway, so we probably never will find out - so everyone's probably up … [view original content]
To me, Obi-Wan Kenobi's grief reminded me of what a father would feel for his son. I mean after all Anakin Skywalker was essentially raised by Obi-Wan.
If Obi Wan was bisexual I would accept that, the way the character behaved and the "Order" he was raised in from a child to a middle aged ma… moren sense of brotherhood likely could of encouraged it unofficially. Luke Skywalker in my opinion, no... Being the Jedi order was based heavily off the Samurai and the concepts of Sexuality among Samurai in Japan was well often bisexual, ie it wasn't looked down upon among Samurai, I wouldn't mind the idea if Obi Wan was. Definitely for how emotionally broken he was at the end of Revenge of the Sith.
Yeah, that's also annoying. They could have a situation where they introduce a senator and his husband, and then we never see either again, but they've actually made a point in addressing that they want to have LGBT characters in the new trilogy, so hopefully they have enough sense to not do something like that.
I've seen that and sometimes I've seen it where the character just doesn't do anything: they're in the background and the fact that they're … moredifferent from the other characters is mentioned but they're just there so the filmmakers can say "Oh, we had a character of this group in it for like 5 seconds, yay for inclusion!". I'm not really sure if I'm going to care for the new Star Wars trilogy but the inclusion part has nothing to do with it however I'll probably end up going with people to see them anyways :P
Just saying out of all the cast from the movie series I think he would be the easiest to adapt without causing much confusion. That being said, being he is dead by the new trilogy that is kind of a problem.lol
To me, Obi-Wan Kenobi's grief reminded me of what a father would feel for his son. I mean after all Anakin Skywalker was essentially raised by Obi-Wan.
Just saying out of all the cast from the movie series I think he would be the easiest to adapt without causing much confusion. That being said, being he is dead by the new trilogy that is kind of a problem.lol
Actually, a gender-fluid Jedi or Sith would actually be pretty awesome. Just imagine the kind of infiltrations and such a character could pull off if they could present themselves as both male and female.
If they did it, they would lose a lot of respect from their audience, not due to the fact Luke is gay, but because they are making him gay s… moreimply to 'cater' for the 'LGBT' community. It would have nothing to do with plot, lore, or Luke as a character, it would purely revolve around softening up to these communities just for a better public image. I've got nothing against gays, but making characters gay just for the sake of making them gay, is plain dumb. I think most people would agree.
It's hard to explain my views on it, on one hand, I really don't care about their sexual orientations, but on the other, i'm thinking, fuck this, what's next, gender fluid binary trans autistic black Jedi just because we have to be accepting? I know that's pushing quite a bit...but you get my point.
I think the thing is, I just get tired of people bellyaching about every stupid little thing that happens in the world today. I'm just tired… more of all the bitching about the dissatisfaction of people in general. They're unhappy so they're going to make everybody else around them unhappy. It's just so stupid! People, especially these days, seem to be Masters at finding something to complain about. And if they can't find something to complain about, they'll invent something to complain about.
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Showing someone's sexuality doesn't mean romance. Leia and Han were married, and that wasn't all about romance. Heck, with that in the original trilogy, what we got from Han after Leia said she loved him, was "I know".
I don't get why people get all up in arms because the creators of the new Star Wars films stated that they want to be inclusive. People seem to think that people creating characters with varying ethnicities, sexualities, and genders is somehow wrong if the reason that they did it was because they want to strive to be inclusive.
But, my question is: why is it wrong? The story is good, people enjoy The Force Awakens. It got rave reviews, from both fans and critics. The story doesn't suffer because two of the main characters are a woman and a black man. It's also fair to say that since they handled inclusion well there, the story won't suffer when they add an LGBT character (which is not necessarily going to be Luke, as no one even ever officially said that they would be exploring Luke's sexuality in a film - and Jedi masters usually don't have romantic relationships anyway, so we probably never will find out - so everyone's probably up in arms over nothing).
So why is so much of the internet up upset because they want to be inclusive? If the story is good, and the characters are well written and portrayed well, why does it matter the reason why they want to include a diverse group of people?
I posted the video because I thought it was funny :P
Honestly, I don't really care what the sexuality, ethnicity, or gender is of a character but I'm annoyed when it seems like they're doing it only because they want to be inclusive and put that ahead of the actual character themself so I'm trying to say that for me, I get annoyed when they make a gay or other group of character and go like "Well, they're gay so we don't need to add any more detail or depth to them", (I'm not saying Star Wars is doing that though)
Well, I didn't like The Force Awakens and didn't think the story was good anyways but yeah, I don't think the two main characters being a woman and black man were the reasons at all. Again, I don't think Luke will be gay, I think it was Mark Hamil just trying to be nice, and that people are making a big deal over something that probably won't happen. Even though Jedi usually don't have relationships, you could say that Luke is different than the ones in the prequels and I won't be surprised if it turns out he was in a relationship but I think it would have been with woman- I guess we'll find out what happens next.
Well....It is the internet, people make big deals out of a lot of things lol. I'm fine with being inclusive as long as the characters actually are well written and the case isn't that because they're being inclusive they decide to get lazy.
Aww you removed them? I thought they were adorable, lol.
It depends. If the character had been already established as straight, then yes, it's unnecessary. However, if there were no hints of his sexuality, then I don't see the problem.
The only time I ever felt like people adding in characters with multiple ethnicities, sexualities, or genders felt like it was tacked on was when they were doing it to make those people the comic relief. Both because it's incredibly distracting, and because it doesn't really make sense to add them to try to be inclusive when you're excluding them from the rest of the cast by making them the butt of the jokes. I don't think we'll have to worry about that in the new Star Wars trilogy though.
I've seen that and sometimes I've seen it where the character just doesn't do anything: they're in the background and the fact that they're different from the other characters is mentioned but they're just there so the filmmakers can say "Oh, we had a character of this group in it for like 5 seconds, yay for inclusion!". I'm not really sure if I'm going to care for the new Star Wars trilogy but the inclusion part has nothing to do with it however I'll probably end up going with people to see them anyways :P
Homestly, I think it's the gamergate crowd milking more clicks and views out of their fifteen minutes of fame.
To me, Obi-Wan Kenobi's grief reminded me of what a father would feel for his son. I mean after all Anakin Skywalker was essentially raised by Obi-Wan.
When you attempt to be edgy and get called adorable
Yeah, that's also annoying. They could have a situation where they introduce a senator and his husband, and then we never see either again, but they've actually made a point in addressing that they want to have LGBT characters in the new trilogy, so hopefully they have enough sense to not do something like that.
I don't see how this would contribute to the story at all.
Just saying out of all the cast from the movie series I think he would be the easiest to adapt without causing much confusion. That being said, being he is dead by the new trilogy that is kind of a problem.lol
So in other words it's a moot point.
Don't worry, there could still be an adopted or surrogate sequel.
Actually, a gender-fluid Jedi or Sith would actually be pretty awesome. Just imagine the kind of infiltrations and such a character could pull off if they could present themselves as both male and female.
I'm sorry , I don't understand what you mean by that.
That, including your link, was more of an explanation, and an observation - followed by a question.