I may be persuaded to let Arvo live, i mean i totally did shoot his sister - he shot me back, even steven. Even Mike, as i usually try to give second chances when i'm able, and the whole scene at that cabin made me want to bolt too.
But Bonnie? Man, fuck that Bitch. She helps kidnap us, then decides she wants to pretend we're gonna be best buds - okay crazy lady, whatever works for you. Then when i refuse her suicidal mission for me to run over onto thin ice thats already breaking, she blames me for Lukes death. And then proceeds to abandon us.
What really gets me though is to top it all off they take not just one of the bags of food but both, then abandon 2 children with two adults that they clearly think are unhinged and unstable enough to be unsafe around as it is. What kind of people do that? For reals? Not a single word to Clem to see if she would leave, nothing.
I may be persuaded to let Arvo live, i mean i totally did shoot his sister - he shot me back, even steven. Even Mike, as i usually try to gi… moreve second chances when i'm able, and the whole scene at that cabin made me want to bolt too.
But Bonnie? Man, fuck that Bitch. She helps kidnap us, then decides she wants to pretend we're gonna be best buds - okay crazy lady, whatever works for you. Then when i refuse her suicidal mission for me to run over onto thin ice thats already breaking, she blames me for Lukes death. And then proceeds to abandon us.
What really gets me though is to top it all off they take not just one of the bags of food but both, then abandon 2 children with two adults that they clearly think are unhinged and unstable enough to be unsafe around as it is. What kind of people do that? For reals? Not a single word to Clem to see if she would leave, nothing.
Arvo was just an asshole. I didn't steal his medicine but his group still went after me. I shot his sister because she was a walker someone would have to do it eventually. Then he steals the car Kenny got working and shoots Clementine for trying to protect it. If Mike, Bonnie and Arvo come back I'm gonna get revenge.
I may be persuaded to let Arvo live, i mean i totally did shoot his sister - he shot me back, even steven. Even Mike, as i usually try to gi… moreve second chances when i'm able, and the whole scene at that cabin made me want to bolt too.
But Bonnie? Man, fuck that Bitch. She helps kidnap us, then decides she wants to pretend we're gonna be best buds - okay crazy lady, whatever works for you. Then when i refuse her suicidal mission for me to run over onto thin ice thats already breaking, she blames me for Lukes death. And then proceeds to abandon us.
What really gets me though is to top it all off they take not just one of the bags of food but both, then abandon 2 children with two adults that they clearly think are unhinged and unstable enough to be unsafe around as it is. What kind of people do that? For reals? Not a single word to Clem to see if she would leave, nothing.
* I like Episode 1 of Season two more than Episode 1 of Season one
* Playing Clem is more fun than playing Lee
* I liked Carver and Randal… morel (Carver because he was charismatic and because of his voice, Randall because he is smart, a good hand-to-hand fighter and doesn't give a shit about Michonne's torture)
* I liked Sarah
* Hated all of Season two's endings except the one where you stay at Wellington and Kenny leaves (mostly because it is the only one that made me cry, especially when Kenny says "I'm real glad to have met you, Clementine")
* Hated Jane (because she is pretty much useless, she teaches Clem everything she already knew like hitting a walker's knee, looting them (clem does that in ep1) and I feel like she is only there to fight Kenny)
* I think Arvo's shooting was kinda justified because Clem killed his sister, he showed anger towards Clem after that moment
* I like the Michonne mini-series
* I care about Sam and actually felt bad for her when she got shot
I may be persuaded to let Arvo live, i mean i totally did shoot his sister - he shot me back, even steven. Even Mike, as i usually try to gi… moreve second chances when i'm able, and the whole scene at that cabin made me want to bolt too.
But Bonnie? Man, fuck that Bitch. She helps kidnap us, then decides she wants to pretend we're gonna be best buds - okay crazy lady, whatever works for you. Then when i refuse her suicidal mission for me to run over onto thin ice thats already breaking, she blames me for Lukes death. And then proceeds to abandon us.
What really gets me though is to top it all off they take not just one of the bags of food but both, then abandon 2 children with two adults that they clearly think are unhinged and unstable enough to be unsafe around as it is. What kind of people do that? For reals? Not a single word to Clem to see if she would leave, nothing.
i mean i totally did shoot his sister
That was in self-defense. She was a walker. Arvo was stupid to think she was still alive. How … morethe fuck did he not notice that her skin was rotten?
he shot me back
Because he was an asshole, no matter how nice you try to treat
I doubt that he would have shot us if Kenny hadn't abused him.
Arvo shot her because he thinks she killed his sister alive for chrissakes!!! Abused or not, he blamed Clem for everything because he was stupid. He really needs to die or should not return in Season 3.
For one thing Mike would never have tried to save him if he hadn't been abused.
Yeah, he forgot that Arvo was the one who started the ambush which almost got him killed EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T STEAL FROM HIM!!!
Yeah, he forgot that Arvo was the one who started the ambush which almost got him killed EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T STEAL FROM HIM!!!
That...completely ignores my point? Arvo only had a gun in the first place because Kenny was abusing him. If they had handcuffed him but not beat him within an inch of his life Mike would never have tried to help him escape this abuse.
Abused or not
There's no 'or not'. If Jane tied Kenny up, dragged him around and beat him up when she was upset, you'd easily admit that was abuse, regardless of why she originally tied him up.
I doubt that he would have shot us if Kenny hadn't abused him.
Arvo shot her because he thinks she killed his sister alive for chris… moresakes!!! Abused or not, he blamed Clem for everything because he was stupid. He really needs to die or should not return in Season 3.
For one thing Mike would never have tried to save him if he hadn't been abused.
Yeah, he forgot that Arvo was the one who started the ambush which almost got him killed EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T STEAL FROM HIM!!!
If they had handcuffed him but not beat him within an inch of his life Mike would never have tried to help him escape this abuse.
This is because Kenny was right to blame him for Luke's death. His ambush got him killed. Arvo did plan to kill everyone by walking on the ice so it would break. I was upset that there was no option to tell the group that there was a shore not far which would have led everyone to safety.
If Jane tied Kenny up, dragged him around and beat him up when she was upset, you'd easily admit that was abuse, regardless of why she originally tied him up.
If she had a good reason to do so, then no. Didn't Sam have a good reason to beat the shit out of Randall when he had his hands tied with a vice?
Yeah, he forgot that Arvo was the one who started the ambush which almost got him killed EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T STEAL FROM HIM!!!
Tha… moret...completely ignores my point? Arvo only had a gun in the first place because Kenny was abusing him. If they had handcuffed him but not beat him within an inch of his life Mike would never have tried to help him escape this abuse.
Abused or not
There's no 'or not'. If Jane tied Kenny up, dragged him around and beat him up when she was upset, you'd easily admit that was abuse, regardless of why she originally tied him up.
Im aware it was in self defense, but from Arvo's perpective, it certainly didn't appear that way. One minute she was alive, the next a walker. Maybe their group wasn't aware yet that you turn no matter what, bites or no. And i can accept that, it makes sense to me.
Therefore i can understand his desire to shoot Clem, and as she survived - i don't really hold it against him.
i mean i totally did shoot his sister
That was in self-defense. She was a walker. Arvo was stupid to think she was still alive. How … morethe fuck did he not notice that her skin was rotten?
he shot me back
Because he was an asshole, no matter how nice you try to treat
I know, but that doesn't mean that the situation was cut and dry.
From Arvo's perspective, his sister was fine the last time he looked at her, so when he turns and sees Clem shoot her - in his mind she is still alive at that point.
We have to remember that they were in the middle of a shootout at the time. It's reasonable for Arvo to have missed his sisters passing and assume that Clementine shot her in cold blood. And if that is the assumption he made (understandably), why wouldn't he want revenge?
If someone shot Clem's sister, I'm sure tons of people would be clamoring and shouting for her to get her revenge.
Joe was good. That charismatic kinda evil, that you love to hate.
I think it was Lew or Len, the one i really didn't like. But it may be partly that i've seen him play creeps in other things and that feeling just follows.
Im aware it was in self defense, but from Arvo's perpective, it certainly didn't appear that way. One minute she was alive, the next a walk… moreer. Maybe their group wasn't aware yet that you turn no matter what, bites or no. And i can accept that, it makes sense to me.
Therefore i can understand his desire to shoot Clem, and as she survived - i don't really hold it against him.
You, of course are entitled to your own opinion
TWD is ultimately Clem's story. If she's not going to be the PC, then the only way it will work is if she's a constant presence like she was in Season 1, and her personality is based off of your decisions from Season 2.
So I'm starting to think that liking Sam counts as an unpopular opinion at this point
But I'm guessing an even more unpopular opinion would be that Sam's one of my top ten favorite characters in the entire game. In fact, I can only think of one other person on here that currently shares that opinion... well, at least I think they do
Shes a good character, probably the best one in the michonne story. Norma was inconsistent and Pete/Randall were a bit extreme in either direction. The rest were minor characters.
To be honest that doesnt equal liking her of course. However she showed loyalty to me in episode 2 and onwards so I ended up liking her and willing to help her out. Though I completely find her responsible for the chaos of the episodes given her repeated stealing, I hope she learned a lesson from the game.
So I'm starting to think that liking Sam counts as an unpopular opinion at this point
But I'm guessing an even more unpopular opinion wou… moreld be that Sam's one of my top ten favorite characters in the entire game. In fact, I can only think of one other person on here that currently shares that opinion... well, at least I think they do
Shes a good character, probably the best one in the michonne story. Norma was inconsistent and Pete/Randall were a bit extreme in either dir… moreection. The rest were minor characters.
To be honest that doesnt equal liking her of course. However she showed loyalty to me in episode 2 and onwards so I ended up liking her and willing to help her out. Though I completely find her responsible for the chaos of the episodes given her repeated stealing, I hope she learned a lesson from the game.
I still find her downright unlikable in episode 1
Mainly episode 2 and 3. Shes really aggressive and angry and out to kill us in episode 2 and in episode 3 shes completely against violence up until randall is killed. Episode 1 kind of was a bit all over the place, she appears reasonable however nothing about her overall behavior is reasonable, she holds us against our will.
I like Sam, she's definitely a good character. But the fact remains that her actions caused a lot of death and destruction, and it doesn't really seem like she understands, or admits her culpability in the matter. I think that is what drives most of the Sam dislike.
So I'm starting to think that liking Sam counts as an unpopular opinion at this point
But I'm guessing an even more unpopular opinion wou… moreld be that Sam's one of my top ten favorite characters in the entire game. In fact, I can only think of one other person on here that currently shares that opinion... well, at least I think they do
Joe was good. That charismatic kinda evil, that you love to hate.
I think it was Lew or Len, the one i really didn't like. But it may be partly that i've seen him play creeps in other things and that feeling just follows.
So I'm starting to think that liking Sam counts as an unpopular opinion at this point
But I'm guessing an even more unpopular opinion wou… moreld be that Sam's one of my top ten favorite characters in the entire game. In fact, I can only think of one other person on here that currently shares that opinion... well, at least I think they do
I like Sam, she's definitely a good character. But the fact remains that her actions caused a lot of death and destruction, and it doesn't r… moreeally seem like she understands, or admits her culpability in the matter. I think that is what drives most of the Sam dislike.
Edit: I, just noticed when i reread this comment, i might start allot of negative arguements, by saying why i think FTWD, is more fun to watch to me, then the main-series of TWD.
So im just gonna, turn it into a comment why i have the unpopular opinion that i like Fear The Walking Dead
I like allmost all the characters, and think they are really well-written, and most of the actors are really doing a good job, at potraying the characters in my opinion .
Nick, for example has a really intressting story-line imo, starting as an addict, and ending up a badass who covers himself with walker-blood, to roam a city, also he has allot of funny lines .
And Daniel, is also a very intressting character, i think his actor is really doing a wonderfull job, at potraying the character.
I hate Rick Grimes. He's always getting his ass beat unless he's holding a weapon and he makes terrible decisions all the time that end up getting people killed. Don't get me wrong he's an incredibly interesting character from an entertainment perspective, but I'd hate to be around him.
I liked Sam too, other than Michonne she was actually my favourite character in the game. I can clearly see why several people are not particularly fond of her though.
So I'm starting to think that liking Sam counts as an unpopular opinion at this point
But I'm guessing an even more unpopular opinion wou… moreld be that Sam's one of my top ten favorite characters in the entire game. In fact, I can only think of one other person on here that currently shares that opinion... well, at least I think they do
I agree with you @Flog61. It seemed like Sam regretted everything she did. With every death however, she thinks less and less clearly. Mom dies and she out stealing. Brother dies and she helps destroy a whole community. Dad dies and she just isn't herself. I feel like if Pete gets her to a community she'll finally be able to grieve and move on... maybe. The world of The Walking Dead isn't too fond of humanity getting over things. Oh, you're about to get better? BOOM, someone else you know is dead and you're indirectly involved. Bwahahaha!!!
I was happy 400 day characters didn't really show up in Season 2 (apart from Bonnie) As I never really liked them. I just played it because it was DLC tbh.
If Jane tied Kenny up, dragged him around and beat him up when she was upset, you'd easily admit that was abuse, regardless of why she originally tied him up.
I absolutely hate Jane...but is it wrong that I kinda want to see this happen?
Yeah, he forgot that Arvo was the one who started the ambush which almost got him killed EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T STEAL FROM HIM!!!
Tha… moret...completely ignores my point? Arvo only had a gun in the first place because Kenny was abusing him. If they had handcuffed him but not beat him within an inch of his life Mike would never have tried to help him escape this abuse.
Abused or not
There's no 'or not'. If Jane tied Kenny up, dragged him around and beat him up when she was upset, you'd easily admit that was abuse, regardless of why she originally tied him up.
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I may be persuaded to let Arvo live, i mean i totally did shoot his sister - he shot me back, even steven. Even Mike, as i usually try to give second chances when i'm able, and the whole scene at that cabin made me want to bolt too.
But Bonnie? Man, fuck that Bitch. She helps kidnap us, then decides she wants to pretend we're gonna be best buds - okay crazy lady, whatever works for you. Then when i refuse her suicidal mission for me to run over onto thin ice thats already breaking, she blames me for Lukes death. And then proceeds to abandon us.
What really gets me though is to top it all off they take not just one of the bags of food but both, then abandon 2 children with two adults that they clearly think are unhinged and unstable enough to be unsafe around as it is. What kind of people do that? For reals? Not a single word to Clem to see if she would leave, nothing.
That was in self-defense. She was a walker. Arvo was stupid to think she was still alive. How the fuck did he not notice that her skin was rotten?
Because he was an asshole, no matter how nice you try to treat
I thought Joe was a decent villain. The others I couldn't care less about.
Arvo was just an asshole. I didn't steal his medicine but his group still went after me. I shot his sister because she was a walker someone would have to do it eventually. Then he steals the car Kenny got working and shoots Clementine for trying to protect it. If Mike, Bonnie and Arvo come back I'm gonna get revenge.
Not clems mistake the she shot arvos sis, she was already dead and had turned into a walker
Arvos sis had become a walker we had to shoot her
I doubt that he would have shot us if Kenny hadn't abused him.
For one thing Mike would never have tried to save him if he hadn't been abused.
Arvo shot her because he thinks she killed his sister alive for chrissakes!!! Abused or not, he blamed Clem for everything because he was stupid. He really needs to die or should not return in Season 3.
Yeah, he forgot that Arvo was the one who started the ambush which almost got him killed EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T STEAL FROM HIM!!!
That...completely ignores my point? Arvo only had a gun in the first place because Kenny was abusing him. If they had handcuffed him but not beat him within an inch of his life Mike would never have tried to help him escape this abuse.
There's no 'or not'. If Jane tied Kenny up, dragged him around and beat him up when she was upset, you'd easily admit that was abuse, regardless of why she originally tied him up.
This is because Kenny was right to blame him for Luke's death. His ambush got him killed. Arvo did plan to kill everyone by walking on the ice so it would break. I was upset that there was no option to tell the group that there was a shore not far which would have led everyone to safety.
If she had a good reason to do so, then no. Didn't Sam have a good reason to beat the shit out of Randall when he had his hands tied with a vice?
Of course it wasn't Clem's mistake but in Arvo's eyes it was
Soo... Fuck that little shit.
Im aware it was in self defense, but from Arvo's perpective, it certainly didn't appear that way. One minute she was alive, the next a walker. Maybe their group wasn't aware yet that you turn no matter what, bites or no. And i can accept that, it makes sense to me.
Therefore i can understand his desire to shoot Clem, and as she survived - i don't really hold it against him.
You, of course are entitled to your own opinion
I know, but that doesn't mean that the situation was cut and dry.
From Arvo's perspective, his sister was fine the last time he looked at her, so when he turns and sees Clem shoot her - in his mind she is still alive at that point.
We have to remember that they were in the middle of a shootout at the time. It's reasonable for Arvo to have missed his sisters passing and assume that Clementine shot her in cold blood. And if that is the assumption he made (understandably), why wouldn't he want revenge?
If someone shot Clem's sister, I'm sure tons of people would be clamoring and shouting for her to get her revenge.
Joe was good. That charismatic kinda evil, that you love to hate.
I think it was Lew or Len, the one i really didn't like. But it may be partly that i've seen him play creeps in other things and that feeling just follows.
Alright.
TWD is ultimately Clem's story. If she's not going to be the PC, then the only way it will work is if she's a constant presence like she was in Season 1, and her personality is based off of your decisions from Season 2.
Take it easy, now.
So I'm starting to think that liking Sam counts as an unpopular opinion at this point
But I'm guessing an even more unpopular opinion would be that Sam's one of my top ten favorite characters in the entire game. In fact, I can only think of one other person on here that currently shares that opinion... well, at least I think they do
Shes a good character, probably the best one in the michonne story. Norma was inconsistent and Pete/Randall were a bit extreme in either direction. The rest were minor characters.
To be honest that doesnt equal liking her of course. However she showed loyalty to me in episode 2 and onwards so I ended up liking her and willing to help her out. Though I completely find her responsible for the chaos of the episodes given her repeated stealing, I hope she learned a lesson from the game.
I still find her downright unlikable in episode 1
huh
What makes you say that, if you don't mind me asking? Because nothing really stood out as being inconsistent to me.
Mainly episode 2 and 3. Shes really aggressive and angry and out to kill us in episode 2 and in episode 3 shes completely against violence up until randall is killed. Episode 1 kind of was a bit all over the place, she appears reasonable however nothing about her overall behavior is reasonable, she holds us against our will.
I think, Nick would've looked absolutely stunning in a tutu.
tu tu ru~
I like Sam, she's definitely a good character. But the fact remains that her actions caused a lot of death and destruction, and it doesn't really seem like she understands, or admits her culpability in the matter. I think that is what drives most of the Sam dislike.
I think the guy that they beat to death was Len. He annoyed me too
She's a good actress that lady isn't she!
She's probably in my top 5 characters of the Walking Dead.
runs away
She does kind of feel guilty when Michonne walks her to her house doesn't she? I swear she expresses feeling like Greg's death is her fault?
Please, that's an extremely popular opinion.
Edit: I, just noticed when i reread this comment, i might start allot of negative arguements, by saying why i think FTWD, is more fun to watch to me, then the main-series of TWD.
So im just gonna, turn it into a comment why i have the unpopular opinion that i like Fear The Walking Dead
I like allmost all the characters, and think they are really well-written, and most of the actors are really doing a good job, at potraying the characters in my opinion
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Nick, for example has a really intressting story-line imo, starting as an addict, and ending up a badass who covers himself with walker-blood, to roam a city, also he has allot of funny lines
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And Daniel, is also a very intressting character, i think his actor is really doing a wonderfull job, at potraying the character.
K
I hate Rick Grimes. He's always getting his ass beat unless he's holding a weapon and he makes terrible decisions all the time that end up getting people killed. Don't get me wrong he's an incredibly interesting character from an entertainment perspective, but I'd hate to be around him.
I liked Sam too, other than Michonne she was actually my favourite character in the game. I can clearly see why several people are not particularly fond of her though.
I agree with you @Flog61. It seemed like Sam regretted everything she did. With every death however, she thinks less and less clearly. Mom dies and she out stealing. Brother dies and she helps destroy a whole community. Dad dies and she just isn't herself. I feel like if Pete gets her to a community she'll finally be able to grieve and move on... maybe. The world of The Walking Dead isn't too fond of humanity getting over things. Oh, you're about to get better? BOOM, someone else you know is dead and you're indirectly involved. Bwahahaha!!!
You're totally right. I forgot about that conversation somehow... Weird. Thanks for the reminder Flog61
I was happy 400 day characters didn't really show up in Season 2 (apart from Bonnie) As I never really liked them. I just played it because it was DLC tbh.
I absolutely hate Jane...but is it wrong that I kinda want to see this happen?
Michelle did nothing wrong!