Lack of Serious American Cartoons?
Why is that so? I don't understand why people think it doesnt sell well.
Hey, if you never try, you never know.
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Why is that so? I don't understand why people think it doesnt sell well.
Hey, if you never try, you never know.
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One word.
Marketing.
The way a lot of film studios try to ascertain money, at least in the main stream crowd, is to mass market films to appease to the 13-25 year old crowd. Cartoons by a lot of peoples' standards are seen as childish or not as compelling. But hey, anime exists for a reason right? A lot of mature content in animated form comes from the east.
What do you mean by "serious cartoon"
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I prefer to hear English and most of the anime dubs (at least the ones I watch) sucked.
LMAO
You ever watched Cowboy Bebop or Steins;Gate?
Venture Brothers and Archer do not count? Rick and Morty, Gravity Falls? =3
Avatar the last airbender is American and often quite serious, same with legend of korra.
If we aren't counting movies, the last serious western animations I know of are Legend of Korra and Steven Universe
There are other "mature" cartoons, but that mostly relies on jokes meant to fly over the heads of younger viewers (if it's even a show that they can watch).
Can you explain I am not sure I understand your post.
I think the OP believes there is a lack of serious American cartoons
Mind you, even if the last category is marketed for children it still has a rather large adult or teenage fanbase. And even though they are aimed at children, they still have good morals or just good content that other age groups may also enjoy.
tl;dr: There are plenty of "serious" American cartoons even if some have faded from the scene.
Well To answer the original poster yes it is true there is a lack of American Cartoons I think because most of the cartoons today are uninteresting, many of us grew up to old school cartoons ie Rugrats, Rocko's Modern Life, Hey Arnold, Ren and Stumpy and many others, so many of us are more familiar and prefer those styles. The character's had more development and the writers were creative, which in my opinion most cartoons today lack.
Honestly I would put Adventure Time, and Steven's Universe on the list as well for current cartoons. They do have some very deep stories in some of their episode. Both have respectable character development as well when compared to say something like Rugrats. Adventure Time episode I Remember You for example was very sad and depressing as it was about the character Ice King and his relationship with the Vampire Queen Marceline, which seems to go back shortly after the world of man was completely destroyed and humanity was all but wiped from the planet. Yes adventure tie is that dark lol
I actually like Adventure Time a lot, though not Steven's Universe. That Bear show which name I can not remember is also pretty nice from time to time.
We bare bears
Adventure Time is my jam. Couldn't care less for Steven Universe. Fandom ruined it for me before I could even give it a chance.
Yeah the fandom is pretty bad. The show's pretty good though, you should just ignore the fandom and give it a chance.
Korra was a huge fail
Maybe in a few years once it dies down. I can't go into something immediately without having a biased opinion.
I don't know, none of the cartoons appealed to me.
The only two cartoons I can say I liked was Mystery Inc and Avatar The Last Airbender
Just because they don't appeal to you doesn't make them any less "serious". With the exception of Family Guy, because that's garbage however you spin it.
Fair enough that your opinion is yours, but you can't just write off the rest because they aren't your cup of tea.
This discussion is why there is a lack of serious english cartoons. Not whether a certain cartoon is my cup of tea.
90% of what you mentioned are in no way any more serious than Regular Show.
My bad. You didn't clarify what exactly "serious" meant. I'm assuming you mean something more in the vein of anime-estque material?
Subjective.
I loved it.
I personally wouldn't call some of these children cartoons, especially since hey all have more mature themes that can engage adult audiences. I don't see why people keep labeling most cartoons as 'for children' when where they'll like it or not is dependent on taste/perspective rather than age group.
Yeah, sadly, some of the individuals in Steven Universe fandom are shockingly aggressive and rude(at least from what I've heard), I mean, apparently even the creators had to intervene when some members of the fandom went too far when attacking an individual just because they didn't like that individual's art style of the character :c But I always say "Judge the show by it's quality not by it's fan-base".
Yeah they called they attacked the artist for "whitewashing" Garnet and for drawing Rose thinner. It actually got so bad that she attempted suicide (she's fine now but I think she quit drawing, at least on Tumblr) and that was when the creators intervened.
Inb4 watch anime
Yeah, I stumbled upon a video that talked about Steven Universe having one of the worst fandoms. It makes me sad that some people would go out of their way to hurt another individual just because they drew the characters differently, they shame the fandom and give it a bad name. It can really suck when the more 'negative' individuals in a fandom are the minority yet the most vocal.
Watch anime.
Canada has tons of serious shows
Which is directly what I said in my post.
Also, Gravity Falls? Bruh.
Gravity Falls is serious.
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Honestly often anime is the opposite of serious.. Most anime today isn't taken seriously by the people working on them and they're selling pretty girl faces with slap stick humor more than character development and story telling. Heck even the action scenes do not impress me on most anime I come across these days.
It's called promoting Tolerance, but in turn you end up promoting intolerance instead without even realizing it. Fandom of the program are insanely intolerant as they feel insecure for liking the program itself. It happened with the great Pony Scare a few years back, the animation My Little Pony promoted Tolerance but in the end the fanbase became insanely defensive and intolerant towards anyone that even looked at them wrong.
It's a problem with promotion of tolerance without educating people on how to deal with intolerance, expecting being nice and understanding will insure understanding back but nice doesn't work vs intolerance which in turn causes such people to them become bitter, defensive, and in turn intolerant themselves toward anything unpleasant to their eyes. Created a online forums war of brownies, ponies, anti brownies, anti ponies... it was war with words.
That being said the Steven's Universe isn't really about tolerance. But the fanbase likely grew up on the promotion of tolerance without a good education on how to deal with intolerance. In turn anyone who criticis them for liking that show to them is intolerant, but being unable to convince people the show is good gets frustrating, causes eventual anger, rage and hatred... in turn violence. Cycle continues, now the tolerant are the intolerant. hehe
I grew up in the 1980s and 1990s when anime wasn't popular. Because it wasn't popular I didn't' go around promoting it because I know people are naturally intolerant... thanks to anime like Macross which tackled problems that hugs/kisses/words and understanding couldn't solve. Heck it took until highschool until I found anyone else who actually watched anime. I didn't go around insulting people because they liked to call my favorite franchise Gundamn Warriors, or Goddamns or other silly joke words. Just like how on Macross how humans/aliens didn't get along didn't understand each other, it didn't promote tolerance, it just taught people the differences in beliefs and cultures can cause conflicts and people should try to avoid behaving in ways that cause those conflicts, even then it may not avoid conflict.
An adult swim Walking Dead cartoon would be sweet, done in the style of the HBO Spawn.
Lately, I've been watching older episodes of the Star Wars Clone Wars series, which I didn't see when it was being produced.
It has quite a few serious issues in it, though I don't know if you can count it as being truly dramatic, because it had to fit into an already defined movie timeline, which meant you knew there was no chance of certain characters ever being in real danger.
Computers have gotten much better at animating than they used to be. Someone just has to be willing to take a risk. Look at this summer's movie line-up if you want to see just how risky Hollywood wants to be with new concepts.
Exactly.
Kuroshitsuji turned to complete shit after Season 3. Heck, they didn't even follow the storyline amymore. Like, what the heck is wrong with the creators. They are no longer taking this seriously.