Hail Hydra!
Leluch123
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Wow I'm so impressed that Marvel pulled something like that off! I have never expected them to be so open and bold about those matters....even if they tried to portay them as evil,what can I say #RedSkull4Prez
Hail Hydra!
Are there any more Hydras here?
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I'm literally so tired of hearing about this and I've never been part of any superhero fandom. I can't speak for others, but I think it's brilliant on the writer's behalf to pull off a spin like this. True, it might not be true to the character, but I'm sure the writers know this and definitely have a reason for this.
I know it's freakin genious!
I don't get all the fuss about it. Comic books do this stuff all the time, he'll be back to normal within the year's end.
Probably because Cap was a symbol n stuff and now he joined the very organization he was created to fight
Irony aside, these comics will likely bring the opposite message they meant them to mean. This happened to the Mobile Suit Gundam Franchise. the fascist antagonist are more popular among viewers now days than the protagonist.
Captain America is a Nationalist a Pro American Nationalist, he has always been a nationalist. So in a lot of respects he isn't out of character if the Cap himself believes America is under siege. Sometimes to be a patriot you have to become a traitor. That is how the USA was founded to begin with.
That being said I find the whole situation LOL.
Well when I read comment section under this video they just managed to do that, even more when they potrayed right-wing guys as SUICIDE BOMBERS I mean come...also there's a fact that Red Skull was...right so
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Hm now that you pointed it out that does make sense...
Red skull has always been one of mine favorite comic book villans. But i never thought i would share his opinions. So i guess hail hydra.
Wait I'm a bit confused, what exactly has this got to do with 'SJW's?
Honestly I think this was an incredibly stupid move to pull, but I won't get mad about it until more issues come out.
Captain America was made by two people at Marvel who were Jews, so people are mad that they turned him into a Nazi.
So, what part of Red Skull's speech was villainous, because I was pretty much in agreement with what he was saying. Does that mean I'm a member of Hydra?
That is exactly why I said this whole idea is likely going to backfire. I know a lot of people who would agree with every word that came out of Red Skull's mouth in that short clip presented in that video. Regardless that it's right out of Adolf Hitler's Speech book.
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Never noticed that. lol
Right, I can understand that, but the video refers to him being a nazi as 'SJW pornography' so..how does that makes sense?
It's then when you know how screwed up the world is when the words of supposed Nazi makes more sense than the ones of nowadays politicians...
I guess it's just a form of clickbait.
I'm from Sweden. So more or less every day i get told from media and politicians that people like myself are evil nazi.
Horseshit like this is why the comic industry has degraded to nothing more than Hollywood's personal testing ground for potential money generating superhero films for future.
Nonsensical twists like this that basically take a dump on 75 years of character history are done solely because Marvel/DC have given up on trying to tell good stories and have opted instead to go to the well of SHOCKING SWERVES to drive sales up by using real-life controversy. Here, it has completely backfired, as Red Skull now looks like a rational good guy, despite decades of established character history portraying him as a Nazi psychopath who gets off on killing children and adults alike.
But hey, come two years time, it's not gonna matter as Marvel will retcon it out of existence and render everything a complete waste of time. Only, the characters involved will be tarnished coming out of it and more and more people will start to wake up to these pointless twists. That's what's going to kill comics and yet there are people who are just lapping it up, while dozens of talented writers get passed by in the industry because these hacks at Marvel and DC are allowed to keep publishing their crappy "stories" so that Hollywood can make money off of them a couple years later. Because fuck telling compelling stories like the ones that put you on the map, right?
Good example of how Nazis latch on to anti-immigrant movements as a means of garnering support.
Honestly, Nazis technically do not exist. It is actually politically incorrect to use the word as real Nazis do not even use the name. If I recall, no Neo Nazi group uses the word Nazi in their name, nor did the NSDAP. I think they went so far to almost outlawing the word entirely, if you said Nazi within Germany between 1933-1945 you risked much punishment as it was considered a word that only enemies of the state would use.
Edit: There are places in europe who do not refer to Nazis as Nazis still, but refer to them as Nationalist. I think Putin even refers to them as Nationalist, and never Nazi. for example. Worse part is people do not even pronounce it right. lol
I heard rumors that the political correctness is regime is bad there... are there any sane people left like yourself? Also a question is THAT real or a joke?
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Often rebranding is a good thing for a franchise. This is a wonderful article about the Neo Fascist faction from Mobile Suit Gundam called Zeon. The evolution and change it went over the past 35 years is considerably. Best part being it made the TV shows, Movies, and OVA short series considerably better because of it.
https://ghostlightning.wordpress.com/2011/11/23/the-despair-of-zeon-at-the-bottom-of-the-gravity-wellmobile-suit-gundam-unicorn-04/
Argument being if you have an unbelievably evil villain then the story itself is unbelievable and personally not worth any sensible person's time. Why do you think X-Men exploded during the 1990? It was a Comic book Franchise focused around a gray world. Villains were sympathetic, stories not black/white. This from the very get go. This carried over into the films as well. You can argue that Magneto is actually the main character of the X-Men films, not really Wolverine.
Interesting, but it hardly changes my point. NatSocs latch on to right-wing populist movements. Red Skull is doing just that, and Captain America is enough of a sucker to fall for it.
I doubt it's a joke, children are indoctrinated from an early age not to question. I have even heard about those that have gotten lower grades thanks to their political views. You see a couple of years ago they introduced gender studies in kindergarten, after they had fucked with the kids brains enough they stopped,but only because it did not work. It was not as bad when i was in school, but i was not there that much thanks to certain problems i had. So i can't be sure.
Yes there is many like me. The Swedish democrats have about 1 million supporters,which makes them the 3 biggest political party. Unfortunately they have a past as a fascist party,a 20 year old past,but still a past. And that is constantly used against them,despite that they have jews and people of foreign origin in the party. But considering the attitude against Israel my country's government has it's probably not an advantage to have jews in the party.
I can tell you a lot more. Like how certain fire departments does not hire based on skill,but on the so called social skill you must have in the current sweden. Or how one of the country's biggest comedians said that sweden has never been safer, right after a mother and her grown son had been murdered at ikea by a immigrant.
... I don't know what do say, I guess from one side I pity you and your people because as an european it's sad to see fall of fellow country (except Germany) but on the other side Sweden along with many west contries cut off its cultural roots in the name of tolerance and multikulti ideology so you have broguht that on yourselves and now you are reaping what you sowed...but on personal level you have my sympathy, it must be horrible to see your own culture falling apart...
Also yes tell me more, I'm interested to see how native Swedish view those things that I can only read about in net.
I knew that a man with such good music taste had to be Hydra at heart!
Gender studies in kindergarten lol? Please do tell us more, I'm very interested.
Don't have to be right wing to be a nationalist. Though I'm not disagreeing with you just pointlessly ranting for fun. lol
That being said most are. Though that is why there is a very broad definition of Nationalist. I think they have half a dozen or more variations of nationalist. Ethnic Nationalist(often associated with the Nazis), Religious Nationalist(good example are Zionist or radical Islamist), Civic Nationalist(which is very leftist, often forms in nations which already have deep multicultural roots). List goes on not worth putting them all down as I don't feel like trying to find them all.
I always found it interest that the National Socialist were controlled by Conservatives but adopted a lot of liberal policies that would preserve nation and state(social reforms and such), including environment, workers rights, which increased their support among Environmentalist and a lot of Leftist. This in turn has caused people Liberal and Conservative to point fingers at each other in the USA claiming both as Nazis. lol
Ironically it actually had a strange effect. For example if you were say African, they had most of the same rights, but not opportunities, were stuck with similar but still less segregation laws as what was seen in the US at the time. Schools were not segregated for example and a lot of Minorities had a lot of friends who were in the Hitler Youth, teasing was less common among children because minorities and Germans themselves had the same political indoctrination.
For the sake of practicality the Nazis even instituted a Honorary Aryan program. A way to cheat the Aryan and pure blood ideology system for important citizens who were obviously not Germans and couldn't get away with pretending. Which allowed some half Jews officially to serve in the SS just for example without hiding their heritage, or in one case there was one African whom's name I can remember who was a member of the Nazi Party. A few founding party members were also Jewish, those who proved important were spared. As well as a Doctor who's grand father was African, but was allowed in the SS because they needed medical personnel in the SS.
History is interesting none the less. They even started a program to help train German Africans, as in the late 1930s there were ideas of possibly regaining their African colonies and German speaking Africans would be very important in such a situation.
Sorry the 3rd Reich is one of my favorite subjects, they're a beautiful example of the best, and worst of humanity under just one topic spanning less than two decades of history.
Yeah tried the same shit in Poland...didn't end well for them...
They more or less forced boys to play with dolls and wear pink clothes. And the opposite for girls. It's like they wanted to force boys to be feminine and girls to be butch. I don't have any exact information,but you get the general idea.
Sounds like the same kind of morons, luckily in Poland the backslash from parents and few death threats made the dumb feminist drop the idea
I have not sowed shit. Neither have my parents or my grandparents. My father is a farmer, which almost makes him a second class citizen,thanks to the politicians. Sweden is extremly polarized,which creates hate. And maybe one day there will actually exist all these evil nazis the politicians say there are.
I responded to my own fucking comment. @Leluch123
I'd have failed my classes before I went along with that. I never was good at following bad orders.
If you put an "@" and then his name it will show up in his feed anyway. @Leluch123
Thanks for the help.
I didn't mean you personaly more as Sweden society at lagre which areed to that kind of policy