Does that mean I have to go to the church as well? Because even though I have read the Bible, and like a lot of the stories in it, I'm not a religious man by nature.
When I went to Alcoholics Anonymous, something they always said was, when they talk about God: "God as you understand him."
They never advocated one particular Faith over another. But one thing that I did notice, is that a lot of the principles that they taught in Alcoholics Anonymous are based on Judeo-Christian principles.
And that's what kind of got me interested in God, and why I started to disagree with a lot of the things that are taught in Church.
It was while I was in Alcoholics Anonymous, that I started to read the Bible. And then I started seeing a lot of differences between what Jesus taught in the Gospels, and things that I heard in Church.
I've only been to Church a handful of times in my entire life, and it was all due to a girl that I had been dating. while I was there, I asked the minister a lot of these questions, and that's when he told me to leave and never come back.
So that's the reason why I do not care for church.
And may I ask you, since you are directing me to a particular religious group's website, are you one of them? And please be honest with me... I won't think any less of you if you are.
Eh, actually, I think I know where you can find most of those answers. And if you really want to have answers I suggest you should try it.
… more So, if you go to the Jehovah's witnesses site ( jw.org ) you can find those answers. I don't remember how you can actually search stuff on this website but I know all the answers are there.
The Jehovah's witnesses' bible is actually better than the other one's. Most of the other bibles have erased the real name of god, and changed the meaning of some verses ( so there's less credibility in those bibles).
I really recommend it to you, to go on their website.
I'd probably gaze in awe to be honest, might feel unworthy or shy like I usually do when around people I don't know x.x
I'd ask him several questions from "How are you?" to "What's your favorite food?" - for some weird reason, I feel like I ask this often when I don't... Also, "Does the Bible really contain your thoughts or is it actually comprised of the opinions of your followers?".
Yes, I'm a part of it. Well, I mean, I don't really agree about everything they say about what should I do, what kind stuff I shouldn't watch, which kind of video games I shouldn't play...etc but what they teach/what's in their bible does make a lot of sense and it answers a lot of people like you.
Does that mean I have to go to the church as well? Because even though I have read the Bible, and like a lot of the stories in it, I'm not a… more religious man by nature.
When I went to Alcoholics Anonymous, something they always said was, when they talk about God: "God as you understand him."
They never advocated one particular Faith over another. But one thing that I did notice, is that a lot of the principles that they taught in Alcoholics Anonymous are based on Judeo-Christian principles.
And that's what kind of got me interested in God, and why I started to disagree with a lot of the things that are taught in Church.
It was while I was in Alcoholics Anonymous, that I started to read the Bible. And then I started seeing a lot of differences between what Jesus taught in the Gospels, and things that I heard in Church.
I've only been to Church a handful of times in my entire life, and it was all due to a girl that I had been dating… [view original content]
Both the old and new are filled with nonsense and fabrications. As society grew to be more civilized people have abandoned the very foundation of the bible and created the new testament to water down the cruelty of religion
I would have me and my group of angsty magical teenagers fight him in an epic final fight. We would say some cringey dialogue about humans finding their own way and we don't need him/her anymore. Then he would say some crap about giving into despair and the pointlessness of life.
What exactly do they teach? I knew a Jehovah's Witness when I was in school back in the day, but I never did ask him about his faith.
One thing I do remember very distinctly, is that he was very different then most of the other kids in school.
For example, he didn't celebrate any of the hollidays, not even Christmas, which is the birth of the savior. Nor his own birthday!
And when we all transfered to high school, I remember that he didn't even date anyone.
Now I personally wasn't the most successful guy when it came to dating, but I still dated nevertheless.
And I always thought that his not dating was really strange, but I still respected him enough not to make fun of him about it. I always figured that if that's what he wants to do - than so be it - it was none of my business.
I remember he did have quite a few girls take an interest in him, given his good looks, and that he was surprisingly very socially savvy. but he still would never ask them out, or even if they asked him out, he still wouldn't go out with them.
Because he did not celebrating the holidays, his birthday, and his refusal to date, he ended up getting picked on quite a bit.
I always kind of stood up for him, even though I will admit it was not always easy to defend his behavior.
But even though he was different, and I'm not gonna pretend I understood it, I still never felt he deserved to be picked on for it.
Yes, I'm a part of it. Well, I mean, I don't really agree about everything they say about what should I do, what kind stuff I shouldn't watc… moreh, which kind of video games I shouldn't play...etc but what they teach/what's in their bible does make a lot of sense and it answers a lot of people like you.
It WAS mainly a joke, but partly it was real criticism specifically directed at the Christian religion. If I did want to write a completely serious comment, (which I'd really rather not) Maybe I would consider the alternatives and different religions/beliefs. The bible says what it says, the ten commandments say what they say. Sure, society may exaggerate some of these things, but the examples I gave were things classified as sin in the bible, which is supposedly supposed to be the word of god, unaltered.
Well I'm glad that you weren't being serious. I honestly just kind of assumed that you were, as I've seen many people sincerely say and mean what you had been joking about. Criticizing the specific views of a certain religion vs criticizing a general theoretical view of God isn't necessarily the same thing, and as I was only arguing for the latter while you were apparently talking about the former, I guess we're not really even talking about the same thing. I had thought that the topic was about God in more of a general sense instead of restricting it to certain Christian views, because as I said before, that makes the topic pretty limited. To me, it makes more sense to argue for God in more of a philosophical sort of way instead of purely using religious viewpoints as a basis for discussion. It's very simple and easy for people to attack religion, and those that follow a certain religion can't do much to defend themselves against these attacks because they can't reasonably be expected to prove anything. So all in all, I think it makes sense to avoid specific religious viewpoints when trying to discuss God.
Humans are violent beings, some more than others. Is it really fair that somebody who has issues dealing with anger ends up hurting somebody because they don't know how to cope with the feeling of anger? It sounds pretty unfair to me, wouldn't the blame fall on god for cursing an individual with this misfortune?
Having anger is no excuse for channeling that anger in a way that harms others. Emotion isn't justification for just doing whatever you happen to feel like. I would think that you would agree that immoral actions shouldn't be enabled or tolerated because of emotions. Obviously someone with a bad temper wouldn't be any more justified attacking someone than anyone else would be, because they should know basic right from wrong, and their temper doesn't excuse them from that. Personally, while I'm not exactly one to go off very often, I do have a pretty strong temper when I am angry, and yet I control that temper and understand that I am as accountable for my actions as anyone else is because that's just common sense.
Why would you not consider the alternatives to what you are criticizing, though?
It WAS mainly a joke, but partly it was real critic… moreism specifically directed at the Christian religion. If I did want to write a completely serious comment, (which I'd really rather not) Maybe I would consider the alternatives and different religions/beliefs.
though I believe in God, I believe that religious views are far too influenced by society to be really taken as the true word of God.
The bible says what it says, the ten commandments say what they say. Sure, society may exaggerate some of these things, but the examples I gave were things classified as sin in the bible, which is supposedly supposed to be the word of god, unaltered.
I think it's fair for God to give us the ability to have free will and a full range of emotions and yet still hold us accountable in how we choose to channel those emotions.
but if you channel that e… [view original content]
Having anger is no excuse for channeling that anger in a way that harms others. Emotion isn't justification for just doing whatever you happen to feel like. I would think that you would agree that immoral actions shouldn't be enabled or tolerated because of emotions. Obviously someone with a bad temper wouldn't be any more justified attacking someone than anyone else would be, because they should know basic right from wrong, and their temper doesn't excuse them from that. Personally, while I'm not exactly one to go off very often, I do have a pretty strong temper when I am angry, and yet I control that temper and understand that I am as accountable for my actions as anyone else is because that's just common sense.
Of course I did not mean to say that somebody who has anger issues and deals with anger by hurting another individual is exempt from being held accountable. My point was that it's not exactly someone's fault if they are unfortunate enough to have anger issues and mental disorders of the like. They are absolutely responsible for their actions just like any other person, but we should still consider that it is more difficult for them to control their emotions and it is harder for them to learn. My main point was that if god made us, wouldn't the blame fall on them for creating an aggressive individual? Maybe that's specific to Christianity, but still. I did not mean what you thought I meant.
On a side note, I'd like to thank you for being cool about everything in the end, I hope you didn't get too worked up over my joke. I've given you an upvote to make up for it.
It WAS mainly a joke, but partly it was real criticism specifically directed at the Christian religion. If I did want to write a completely … moreserious comment, (which I'd really rather not) Maybe I would consider the alternatives and different religions/beliefs. The bible says what it says, the ten commandments say what they say. Sure, society may exaggerate some of these things, but the examples I gave were things classified as sin in the bible, which is supposedly supposed to be the word of god, unaltered.
Well I'm glad that you weren't being serious. I honestly just kind of assumed that you were, as I've seen many people sincerely say and mean what you had been joking about. Criticizing the specific views of a certain religion vs criticizing a general theoretical view of God isn't necessarily the same thing, and as I was only arguing for the latter while you were apparently talking about the former, I guess we're not really even talki… [view original content]
But I do wanna know, if I look at their website, does that mean I am required to attend their Church?
Given my experience with Church already, I'm not really that wild about that idea?
Also why don't you guys celebrate Christmas? I mean that's the birth of the savior! Not to mention it's a time when families come together. Don't you guys love your families?
And if I may ask you, with all due respect, if you don't agree with what your faith teaches, than why are you apart of it?
I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to understand you guys. Whenever you get unbanned, please answer this for me.
As I said, I stood up for one of you guys from being picked on back in high school, even though I didn't understand why you do what you do. So I figure you guys owe me an explanation, at least.
Yes, I'm a part of it. Well, I mean, I don't really agree about everything they say about what should I do, what kind stuff I shouldn't watc… moreh, which kind of video games I shouldn't play...etc but what they teach/what's in their bible does make a lot of sense and it answers a lot of people like you.
Does that mean I have to go to the church as well? Because even though I have read the Bible, and like a lot of the stories in it, I'm not a… more religious man by nature.
When I went to Alcoholics Anonymous, something they always said was, when they talk about God: "God as you understand him."
They never advocated one particular Faith over another. But one thing that I did notice, is that a lot of the principles that they taught in Alcoholics Anonymous are based on Judeo-Christian principles.
And that's what kind of got me interested in God, and why I started to disagree with a lot of the things that are taught in Church.
It was while I was in Alcoholics Anonymous, that I started to read the Bible. And then I started seeing a lot of differences between what Jesus taught in the Gospels, and things that I heard in Church.
I've only been to Church a handful of times in my entire life, and it was all due to a girl that I had been dating… [view original content]
while I was there, I asked the minister a lot of these questions, and that's when he told me to leave and never come back.
Well that's just pathetic. Lol.
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Does that mean I have to go to the church as well? Because even though I have read the Bible, and like a lot of the stories in it, I'm not a religious man by nature.
When I went to Alcoholics Anonymous, something they always said was, when they talk about God: "God as you understand him."
They never advocated one particular Faith over another. But one thing that I did notice, is that a lot of the principles that they taught in Alcoholics Anonymous are based on Judeo-Christian principles.
And that's what kind of got me interested in God, and why I started to disagree with a lot of the things that are taught in Church.
It was while I was in Alcoholics Anonymous, that I started to read the Bible. And then I started seeing a lot of differences between what Jesus taught in the Gospels, and things that I heard in Church.
I've only been to Church a handful of times in my entire life, and it was all due to a girl that I had been dating. while I was there, I asked the minister a lot of these questions, and that's when he told me to leave and never come back.
So that's the reason why I do not care for church.
And may I ask you, since you are directing me to a particular religious group's website, are you one of them? And please be honest with me... I won't think any less of you if you are.
"Oh Man, Oh God, Oh Man, Oh God, Oh Man, Oh God, Oh Man, Oh God"
Are clouds comfy? I hear they're fluffy
I'd probably gaze in awe to be honest, might feel unworthy or shy like I usually do when around people I don't know x.x
I'd ask him several questions from "How are you?" to "What's your favorite food?" - for some weird reason, I feel like I ask this often when I don't... Also, "Does the Bible really contain your thoughts or is it actually comprised of the opinions of your followers?".
"Hello"
Yes, I'm a part of it. Well, I mean, I don't really agree about everything they say about what should I do, what kind stuff I shouldn't watch, which kind of video games I shouldn't play...etc but what they teach/what's in their bible does make a lot of sense and it answers a lot of people like you.
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Not unfounded.
I would have me and my group of angsty magical teenagers fight him in an epic final fight. We would say some cringey dialogue about humans finding their own way and we don't need him/her anymore. Then he would say some crap about giving into despair and the pointlessness of life.
4give me please.
I shouldn't be surprised at the colorful comments.
I'd be surprised and don't know what else to do.
What exactly do they teach? I knew a Jehovah's Witness when I was in school back in the day, but I never did ask him about his faith.
One thing I do remember very distinctly, is that he was very different then most of the other kids in school.
For example, he didn't celebrate any of the hollidays, not even Christmas, which is the birth of the savior. Nor his own birthday!
And when we all transfered to high school, I remember that he didn't even date anyone.
Now I personally wasn't the most successful guy when it came to dating, but I still dated nevertheless.
And I always thought that his not dating was really strange, but I still respected him enough not to make fun of him about it. I always figured that if that's what he wants to do - than so be it - it was none of my business.
I remember he did have quite a few girls take an interest in him, given his good looks, and that he was surprisingly very socially savvy. but he still would never ask them out, or even if they asked him out, he still wouldn't go out with them.
Because he did not celebrating the holidays, his birthday, and his refusal to date, he ended up getting picked on quite a bit.
I always kind of stood up for him, even though I will admit it was not always easy to defend his behavior.
But even though he was different, and I'm not gonna pretend I understood it, I still never felt he deserved to be picked on for it.
I would say wow
I would ask him to kill all the humans
I won't be alive
I'd ask him which god is he.
Unicorns offend you?
Well I'm glad that you weren't being serious. I honestly just kind of assumed that you were, as I've seen many people sincerely say and mean what you had been joking about. Criticizing the specific views of a certain religion vs criticizing a general theoretical view of God isn't necessarily the same thing, and as I was only arguing for the latter while you were apparently talking about the former, I guess we're not really even talking about the same thing. I had thought that the topic was about God in more of a general sense instead of restricting it to certain Christian views, because as I said before, that makes the topic pretty limited. To me, it makes more sense to argue for God in more of a philosophical sort of way instead of purely using religious viewpoints as a basis for discussion. It's very simple and easy for people to attack religion, and those that follow a certain religion can't do much to defend themselves against these attacks because they can't reasonably be expected to prove anything. So all in all, I think it makes sense to avoid specific religious viewpoints when trying to discuss God.
Having anger is no excuse for channeling that anger in a way that harms others. Emotion isn't justification for just doing whatever you happen to feel like. I would think that you would agree that immoral actions shouldn't be enabled or tolerated because of emotions. Obviously someone with a bad temper wouldn't be any more justified attacking someone than anyone else would be, because they should know basic right from wrong, and their temper doesn't excuse them from that. Personally, while I'm not exactly one to go off very often, I do have a pretty strong temper when I am angry, and yet I control that temper and understand that I am as accountable for my actions as anyone else is because that's just common sense.
First I would mope around that I was wrong, then I would invite him to have a drink with me.
Of course I did not mean to say that somebody who has anger issues and deals with anger by hurting another individual is exempt from being held accountable. My point was that it's not exactly someone's fault if they are unfortunate enough to have anger issues and mental disorders of the like. They are absolutely responsible for their actions just like any other person, but we should still consider that it is more difficult for them to control their emotions and it is harder for them to learn. My main point was that if god made us, wouldn't the blame fall on them for creating an aggressive individual? Maybe that's specific to Christianity, but still. I did not mean what you thought I meant.
On a side note, I'd like to thank you for being cool about everything in the end, I hope you didn't get too worked up over my joke. I've given you an upvote to make up for it.
But I do wanna know, if I look at their website, does that mean I am required to attend their Church?
Given my experience with Church already, I'm not really that wild about that idea?
Also why don't you guys celebrate Christmas? I mean that's the birth of the savior! Not to mention it's a time when families come together. Don't you guys love your families?
And if I may ask you, with all due respect, if you don't agree with what your faith teaches, than why are you apart of it?
I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to understand you guys. Whenever you get unbanned, please answer this for me.
As I said, I stood up for one of you guys from being picked on back in high school, even though I didn't understand why you do what you do. So I figure you guys owe me an explanation, at least.
Well that's just pathetic. Lol.
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Who made you?
Can I have your autograph?
No, but your total lack of respect.
Perfect reaction.
Tell me about it!