Oh please. Everyone knows the White Man is the most evil thing in man kind and history. Right? Right!?! Sorry I don't have any justifications for that statement, for some reason there are no factual information to back it up, weird.
I know you posted this just a minute after my earlier post, but...
For threads that discuss more serious social issues, please make an effort for more articulated and constructive discussion as opposed to posting ironic responses.
Oh please. Everyone knows the White Man is the most evil thing in man kind and history. Right? Right!?! Sorry I don't have any justifications for that statement, for some reason there are no factual information to back it up, weird.
I know you posted this just a minute after my earlier post, but...
For threads that discuss more serious social issues, please make an effort for more articulated and constructive discussion as opposed to posting ironic responses.
Are you trying to say Hillary Clinton's genius plan of pumping millions into places like Harlem--which totally hasn't been done before or anything--won't work because politicians are unaware of how to best run these communities? Well, yes, that's completely true. In general it's just a rule that government is an obstacle to actual economic growth (and social mobility) - be it the misguided management of financial investments,
If by pump money to Harlem you mean "shower money on contractors she likes and hope it reaches Harlem" then no, I don't think it will be successful. Because let's be honest, the people of Harlem probably won't be included in the discussion about how their neighborhoods are going to be """renewed""". Urban renewal isn't always bad, mind you, but New York's history of gentrification isn't encouraging. My city is in similar straits. Our midtown is both poor and predominantly black. It's been the subject of the city comission's hand wringing for some time. There's tons of vacant and delinquent property, and seeing as how housing is pretty unaffordable here, it would be a fantastic spot for good, working class apartments. Nope, they got talked into building fucking luxury apartments instead and of course, the residents had no say and we taxpayers are paying for the sweetheart deal the city is making.
or something more millennial and relatable, like the cost of college, and why it's so high. Well, it's so high because the government subsidizes so much (and limits the amount of schools that get accredited) so going rates of admission skyrocket.
i anxiously await the collective temper tantrum when fast-track programs and open source education start to outcompete traditional higher-education. The whole system is a racket, and as you said, monopolistic.
The real solution isn't to throw money at troubled, crime-riddled communities--that's paper in the wind--it's instead to do all you can to make them start generating money (which granted, also requires pecuniary investments in the first place). It's why there is permanent poverty and low social mobility in inner-city areas, as businesses don't open there, or operate there. America saw this with Detroit, once their industrial heartland, now a mess thanks to federal subsidies, regulations, and high taxes, which caused the businesses to leave, which caused even higher taxes to account for it. Long story short, yes, it's a 100% shitshow, the management of these areas.
Problem is, to attract relatively non-predatory investment, you need a safe neighborhood with spending power. Instead of trying to attract rich people, perhaps money should be directed at means of making the community more communitarian and self-reliant. I'm no expert on the topic, but there have been some fairly encouraging examples like the Adams Morgan neighborhood in D.C. that call into question a lot of the basic assumptions our bureaucrats make about poor neighborhoods.
Well, teaching people they are racist by default, and accountable for actions their ancestors may or may not have committed hundreds of years ago isn't helpful either. It's also immoral. It's also not helpful to encourage minorities to develop victim complexes and manifest them in ways that are counter-productive to the plight of garnering actual success and respect.
Yeah, well that's just the way of it. We live in a society that gratifies whining and emotional platitudes (guilt in this case), but sees action as divisive and extremist. Still, I do think some black communities are being victimized and have developed quite a bit of respect for the BLM activists where I live. It's important to realize that a lot of the people involved are basically still kids and have never done anything like this before. I personally think what Kaepernick is doing is awesome, but then again, I'm no fan of patriotism, law enforcement or the American government. It heartens back to a time when left wingers weren't so damn afraid of offending people.
Now, I don't think anyone--myself included--is saying racism doesn't exist. But the idea that it's the sole factor in black under-performance in a country run by a two-time elected black man with his black family and a black attorney general, where the highest earning group isn't even white's, but Asian's, is rather cheap.Though class warfare is mingled in as well, as always. To be honest, that's the real privilege, isn't it? In my eyes, there's two kinds of actual worldly privilege, the privilege of being born in an enlightened nation, and the privilege of being wealthy within that very nation. Everything else is a bit abstract.
I wouldn't say that some blacks entering the bourgeoisie indicates an even playing field it general. But yes, saying that racism is responsible for every obstacle faced by African Americans is false. They're only human and have problems withn their own cultures and communities, just like WASPs and everyone else. It's also important to note that in many ways African Americans are, on average, living better and longer than before, so it's not all woe and misery.
Are you trying to say Hillary Clinton's genius plan of pumping millions into places like Harlem--which totally hasn't been done before or an… moreything--won't work because politicians are unaware of how to best run these communities? Well, yes, that's completely true. In general it's just a rule that government is an obstacle to actual economic growth (and social mobility) - be it the misguided management of financial investments,
If by pump money to Harlem you mean "shower money on contractors she likes and hope it reaches Harlem" then no, I don't think it will be successful. Because let's be honest, the people of Harlem probably won't be included in the discussion about how their neighborhoods are going to be """renewed""". Urban renewal isn't always bad, mind you, but New York's history of gentrification isn't encouraging. My city is in similar straits. Our midtown is both poor and predominantly black. It's been the subject of the c… [view original content]
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Oh please. Everyone knows the White Man is the most evil thing in man kind and history. Right? Right!?! Sorry I don't have any justifications for that statement, for some reason there are no factual information to back it up, weird.
I know you posted this just a minute after my earlier post, but...
oh, sorry, I was typing that when you posted it.
It's okay, as I figured that was the case. Just wanted to give a heads up anyways.
If by pump money to Harlem you mean "shower money on contractors she likes and hope it reaches Harlem" then no, I don't think it will be successful. Because let's be honest, the people of Harlem probably won't be included in the discussion about how their neighborhoods are going to be """renewed""". Urban renewal isn't always bad, mind you, but New York's history of gentrification isn't encouraging. My city is in similar straits. Our midtown is both poor and predominantly black. It's been the subject of the city comission's hand wringing for some time. There's tons of vacant and delinquent property, and seeing as how housing is pretty unaffordable here, it would be a fantastic spot for good, working class apartments. Nope, they got talked into building fucking luxury apartments instead and of course, the residents had no say and we taxpayers are paying for the sweetheart deal the city is making.
i anxiously await the collective temper tantrum when fast-track programs and open source education start to outcompete traditional higher-education. The whole system is a racket, and as you said, monopolistic.
Problem is, to attract relatively non-predatory investment, you need a safe neighborhood with spending power. Instead of trying to attract rich people, perhaps money should be directed at means of making the community more communitarian and self-reliant. I'm no expert on the topic, but there have been some fairly encouraging examples like the Adams Morgan neighborhood in D.C. that call into question a lot of the basic assumptions our bureaucrats make about poor neighborhoods.
Yeah, well that's just the way of it. We live in a society that gratifies whining and emotional platitudes (guilt in this case), but sees action as divisive and extremist. Still, I do think some black communities are being victimized and have developed quite a bit of respect for the BLM activists where I live. It's important to realize that a lot of the people involved are basically still kids and have never done anything like this before. I personally think what Kaepernick is doing is awesome, but then again, I'm no fan of patriotism, law enforcement or the American government. It heartens back to a time when left wingers weren't so damn afraid of offending people.
I wouldn't say that some blacks entering the bourgeoisie indicates an even playing field it general. But yes, saying that racism is responsible for every obstacle faced by African Americans is false. They're only human and have problems withn their own cultures and communities, just like WASPs and everyone else. It's also important to note that in many ways African Americans are, on average, living better and longer than before, so it's not all woe and misery.
holy shit that was long, lol.