Episode 4's 'Third Act' Ideas? (Eps 1-3 and Ep 4 Trailer Spoilers)
So Telltale mentioned this on the trailer news page...
Special note: Players will leave this episode in very different places depending on where they choose to go in the third act, and this will greatly affect their story rolling into the season finale as well.
It seems like choices made in this episode then, especially in the final third or the game will have major impacts on Episode 5 and the game's ending, so I'm curious what you guys and gals think that could be, going by what we've have thus far. A chance to redeem Harvey at the expense of something else? Dealing with either Penguin or Lady Arkham (OR Joker?) at the risk of someone else? Choosing to save the lives of Gordon, Renee or Alfred at the expense of another's life? What do you guys and gals think?
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Just leave my Selina alone Telltale, if she dies I RIOT.
I have a feeling based on the trailer we will be able to either confront Harvey as Batman or Bruce, or confront Oz as Batman or Bruce.
I'm more worried about Alfred then Selina.
I agree on Harvey, but not sure about Oz. They have to reveal that the Penguin has access to Wayne Tech somehow, and it's not really possible if Bruce doesn't wear his suit.
Please be determinant Harvey redemption opportunity please be determinant Harvey redemption opportunity please be determinant Harvey redemption opportunity. Honestly though, I'm game for anything. Conversely, I'm not quite sure if I'm well enough equipped for handling this much power.
"That's funny. Thinking you have a choice, thinking that you can save the people around you!" Harvey's words ring true.
In the trailer Oz and Batman seem to be in the secret lab where Lucius was making Bat gear so, to be honest Penguin probably knows who Batman is now, also Penguin does have access with his little monocle thing now.
I was kind of sort of thinking along those lines. That would be so awesome! Hnnnnnnng.
In before "Let me go Bruce! Let me fall!"
Da hell you just say, sonny?
Indeed. You can see Harvey's gunmen shooting at Batman or Bruce trying to soften Harvey. But is this THE big choice Telltale are alluding to ?
I'd be sad to lose either of them, but Alfred would be sadder. Sorry Selina but the dude basically raised me. Did lie about my parents but got that strong moral compass from him.
That would definitely make a lot of sense, going by the trailer... going by my playthrough where Batman saved Harvey I actually feel like Batman could make more of an impact on convincing Harvey not to continue down this path, as opposed to Bruce where his paranoia is making him assume I slept with Selina (even though I didn't and he didn't give me the opportunity to explain).
Getting to confront Oz as Bruce or Batman would be interesting as well. If we're Bruce Oz won't clearly be thinking that he has the edge on Batman's tech since he'll think it's just Bruce... though now I think of it, if he has gotten access to Wayne's tech might he have put two and two together?
I inwardly assume that the choices in Episode 3 as to whether to have Lucius leave Wayne Enterprises and work on tech in the Batcave or stay on as an ally and make sure Oz doesn't get anything too important will impact things with Oz. Maybe the decision to let Selina stay in Wayne Manor or suggest leaving Gotham too, though she's clearly in Episode 4 regardless.
The bastards are going to make me chose between saving Harvey and doing something important, aren't they? Ugh. But I'll do what I can to save my bro, bro, cause we're bros, bro. Bro bro bro bro bro...
I don't get something. Telltale went on record that we could prevent a villain from appearing but it looks like no matter what you did or did not do Two-Face enters the picture. Telltale could not possibly have been alluding to someone else, could they ?
Harvey is severely distraught in either case.
I will have to face Oz as Batman, but Harvey is the one I have to try redeem. Screw everyone else, except for Alfred because I would definitely save him, but I have to prevent Harvey from becoming Two-Face. I won't let his fate end the same his other counter-parts did. I'll even reveal Bruce's identity as Batman to Harvey since I saved him in my walkthrough
The thing is you had the option to save Harvey or Selina in Episode 2 but Harvey still had already been injected with the toxins by Vicki, and that's what's creating the Two Face persona. Two Face is like Harvey's little voice of berating if it got more vocal.
If you saved him it stems from his fear and distress that he couldn't save himself or those who died, and all those reports on television about what he did and didn't do are eating him up. Two Face is playing on that in that case. He's less vocal but it makes Harvey want to do something about it, things increasingly more amoral, if stemmed in justice, like his rant in the office about trying to let Batman do whatever he needs to, or create a whole army of Batmen. That paranoia also affects him when he finds Selina and Bruce in a seemingly compromised position (whether anything happened or not). Two Face plays on his weakness to do anything about his fears and inadequacies, basically.
If you didn't save him, it stems from his aggression on not being saved, getting jumped by Penguin and losing his looks. Two Face is more vocal and dominant here, telling Harvey if he was calling the shots things would get done, but they are twisted into a more aggressive outlook. So the differences are there, if a tad subtle. (I would like to say more about aggressive Harvey but I haven't played that way yet.)
I still like to think that we can save Harvey, regardless of what we did in Episode 2.
I'm rooting for a secret identity reveal to one of the characters. Possibly Harvey or Vicki.
Some parents don't tell their kid they're adopted. Alfred didn't mention the mob connection.
Watch Bruce be adopted too.
Holy shit. Now that would be a huuuuuuuge twist.
If they were to do that, I would see them saving that reveal for the final episode.
Dont separate Bruce and Selina now, and dont you dare make me choose between her and Alfred
What can they make us choose between? Gotham vs escaping with Selina maybe?
They've already had a choose where to go in the game. We had to choose between going to Harvey or going to Montoya. It may be as simple as there's several things happening and you can't be everywhere and save everything.
Wait you didnt sleep with Selina lol?
No, because a. Harvey is my friend, for all his recent paranoia, so I can't betray him like that. b. If Selina is so comfortable with cheating on Harvey and not being serious with his genuine affections and is outright saying I shouldn't really trust her, getting involved that way doesn't seem right... least right now, anyway.
I consider Selina a friend and semi-ally in the same field at present, and I'll do what I can to help her, but I wasn't about to betray Harvey for her interpreting things her own way.
Elephant In Room: And?
Me: What?
Elephant In Room: You know what, the other reason.
Me: Ugh fine... I also thought that there might be the chance to have a nice moment with Vicki later instead...
Elephant In Room: Awkward.
This is going to be a choice between Alfred vs Selina isn't ? Like going to the manor to defend the poor Alfred or elsewhere to go after Selina.
This will be intense, sorry Alfred you have lived long enough anyway.
Or worse, Alfred vs Selina vs Gordon vs Harvey. Two live, two die.
That would wreck me.
Intense indeed, more intense than Bruce x Selina scene
He has done so much for Bruce since childhood...taken care of him and kept his secret for so long, always supported him. But its weird that i still want to choose selina over her just because she is so close to (at least my) Bruce now... But honestly, it'll take a long time for me to decide if this happens. Going to Manor when Harvey aims at Al, or maybe staying with Selina wherever i am. Damn i cant wait for tomorrow
Yeah, i'll pause my game for hours if that choice pops up...
I can't wait indeed. You know that weird feeling when you have come up with so many scenarios in your head you almost feel you played the episode already.
...but when you actually play the episode you realise all your speculation was wrong and ttg comes up with something even traumatizing
Me too! I think I would try and save Harvey and Selina. I mean I would REALLY WANT to save Alfred but I'd also know he'd want me to put others first so... And if Harvey falls anyway I'm gonna be gutted I didn't try and save Gordon, cause how will I look Barbara in the eye afterwards?
My Bruce isn't as close to Selina but I wouldn't want her to get killed, and Alfred would probably be happy to know I was trying to save as many as possible instead of the old man in the cave... but he is my surrogate father... agh! Damn you TT for making me stress over decisions I don't even know if I'l have to make yet.
Ikr
You're a better person than I lol I really felt awful after he bursted in and saw us. But even on my second playthrough I couldnt not bang her lol
Lets talk...
What did you do in this act? Where did you go?