They may have a large level outline, but I doubt they had all the details nailed down. There are small glitches to me that show they overlooked stuff, and what happens with Selina, to me, implies they had an oh crap moment, and needed to boot her out of episode 4 to deal with other stuff.
Actually, this is the first Telltale series in a long time that I feel has had (almost) no rewrites and seems to have been planned out with all Episodes in mind.
I went with Blackgate since I was convinced that Harvey is likely to get worse in Arkham, not better. And I still believe in Harvey Dent, even if he does have to answer for some of his crimes and he TOTALLY OVER-REACTED to me NOT SLEEPING WITH SELINA DUDE.
I was half swearing at the tv when my not scarred Harvey got his arm burnt up higher and higher and I was thinking 'shit he's going to get scarred anyway!' but then it stopped and I thought 'oh, well that's bemusing'.
Harvey becomes evil no matter what choices you made. I feel very, very sorry for those who were rooting for him.
What a total shitshow from… more Telltale, Episode 4 is a massive disappointment for me.
So what "villain" are we supposed to be in position to prevent if it was not Harvey ? Joker ? Catwoman ?
Very well done episode, gutted what happened to Harvey after all my attempts to save him but my mind told me I couldn't let Alfred die. And now the Batcave is offline. Greattttttttttttt.
...Lucius will have some work to do, me thinks. But at least Harvey is dealt with and hopefully safe from himself as much as anyone else. Oh and THANKS FOR BEING NO HELP AT ALL SELINA. Happy I didn't sleep with that woman.
Very well done episode, gutted what happened to Harvey after all my attempts to save him but my mind told me I couldn't let Alfred die. And … morenow the Batcave is offline. Greattttttttttttt.
...Lucius will have some work to do, me thinks. But at least Harvey is dealt with and hopefully safe from himself as much as anyone else. Oh and THANKS FOR BEING NO HELP AT ALL SELINA. Happy I didn't sleep with that woman.
A little annoyed that I visited Harvey as Batman. I ruined his great opinion of him and I went to Wayne Tower instead of the manor. Meaning Harvey is still around and doesn't like Batman. I am so stupid.
It seems like all the odds are stacked against you, though I really feel like if Bruce had really gotten the opportunity to let Harvey know that nothing happened between him and Selina and that Harvey had been prepared to listen - which given the serum was less likely anyway - we might have the best chance. I also hated sending him to Blackgate, but I know Arkham would never cure him with the crazies around him.
I can't express how sorry I am for those who wanted to redeem Harvey, maybe it's not too late but it's unlikely now.
I wonder what happen… mores when the mayor himself is locked up, who will take his place ? The CoA must be watching.
I'm sure Selina will come back in some form, either as a anti-hero in the process of redemption or as a straight up villain.
Loved it, loved it, loved it.
A little annoyed that I visited Harvey as Batman. I ruined his great opinion of him and I went to Wayne Tower instead of the manor. Meaning Harvey is still around and doesn't like Batman. I am so stupid.
I really liked this episode! I thought the choices were pretty good and I really liked this joker as well! I liked how he was kind at some moments and then all of a sudden he would have a outburst!
I really liked this episode! I thought the choices were pretty good and I really liked this joker as well! I liked how he was kind at some moments and then all of a sudden he would have a outburst!
The Bruce visit is in some ways more brutal. He plans to kill Bruce and stage a suicide. Sleeping with Selina is not THAT big of a thing. And he'll realize Batman isn't on the same page as him soon enough.
Harvey becomes evil no matter what choices you made. I feel very, very sorry for those who were rooting for him.
What a total shitshow from… more Telltale, Episode 4 is a massive disappointment for me.
So what "villain" are we supposed to be in position to prevent if it was not Harvey ? Joker ? Catwoman ?
Ok so I liked this episode. 103 still remains my favorite but here are my pros and cons.
Pros:
Great variety with choices. Visiting Harvey as Bruce or Batman and then having to choose whether to go to Wayne Manor or Wayne Enterprises.
Finally getting the chance to beat up Oz.
It was a good build up to what I expect is going to be a riveting season finale!
That was a big choice, lose your tech or lose your house. I chose to lose my house but either way is bad! Good on Telltale for making such a difficult decision.
Cons:
SELINA WHYYYY. So my Bruce has been pro Selina 100%. Saved her, slept with her, invited her to stay. Stupid writing on making her leave even though she's (hopefully) returning in the finale. Just another example of our choices really don't matter because we'll be writing her off for the episode 5 minutes in if you asked her to stay. I get it's her character to be conflicted between right and wrong, but still, after she saved Batman in 103, I have hope that BatCat will live on!
The frame issues weren't too bad this episode but they were still there. God I hope they're fixed by time ANF rolls around.
Length and pacing. I agree it did feel rushed at some points.
I'll give it a 6.5/10. I expect great things come next month! Batman finale and Walking Dead returns! WOOO!
The coin is almost irrelevant to Harvey now. He only uses it for trivial little details, like shooting someone in the head or heart. The coin doesn't control his actions, which in its own way is much worse, because now he really IS unhinged.
To be fair though, this is Telltale's version of Harvey. They're no strangers to changing up how some of the characters work. I mean, in mos… moret versions of Batman, you wouldn't expect Vicki to be portrayed as a ruthless, psychopathic killer... but Telltale did it. You wouldn't expect Thomas Wayne to be a despicable, corrupt bastard... but they did that, too. What's stopping them from taking Harvey in a bit of a different direction as well?
I mean yeah, him blowing up a building and getting civilians killed in the process is going pretty far, but this version of Harvey seems to be a bit more deranged than usual, at least from what I've seen. The way the psychological damage he's sustained is changing and distorting him is different. More unique. He's not just a fate-obsessed coin flipper, you know?
I did everything I could to prevent him from becoming Two-Face (Though I slept with Selina, because I totally forgot they were "dating"), and he still ended up being an antagonist
What the fuck
I sent him to Arkham, because it seemed better than complete isolation, but fuck.
I'm honestly really pissed that, not only did the Save Harvey choice seem to have such little meaning, but everything I did to support Harvey (Choosing to come to his aid every chance I got, financially backing him even after he said he was gonna talk shit about Bruce, etc.) seemed to have been for nothing.
I have many complaints about this episode, but my main focus right now is Harvey.
It sucks that Episode 4 turned out like this. Until now, I considered Batman to be on par with Tales, which is easily Telltale's best game. Hopefully Episode 5 redeems the series. cough And Harvey cough
I honestly really disliked this episode. All the good will they built up in me with this game so far just went crashing down. Was there even… more a difference between Harveys? Bruce sleeping with Selina was just not a good enough excuse to justify Harvey becoming this way so quickly or his immense hatred to the point of wanting to murder Bruce with no kind of doubt like he had in Episode 3. They should have chosen something better than sleeping with Selina because it just felt petty. Not even any moments of doubt, heartwrenching humanity, or the same emotional back and forth we got in him from Episode 3. Just straight up murder, no qualms about it. So are we just done with Harvey in this game now? He goes to prison or Arkham and comes back as a bad guy in the second season no matter what you choose? Absolutely lame.
Selina just up and leaves so I guess that was all for nothing. Even if she comes back in episode 5, that was a terrible way for he… [view original content]
I think the problem with Harvey really lies in the fact that you have no control over him getting injected and then fuelled either by paranoia or aggression (the choice you really have with Harvey vs Selina in Episode 2) thinking you slept with Selina (whether you did or not). And apparently thanks to the toxin that's all he needs to now hate you and be totally happy with locking you in Arkham, blaming your parents actions on you, trying to take everything you own and ignite martial law. All cause of what might not have actually happened with Selina and his injection..
So really it seems like Harvey is doomed, the poor fella. I can't even send him somewhere other than Arkham Asylum, because would you really trust them to help in the condition it's in, so guess it's confinement in Blackgate for you , Harv.
I'm an emotional wreck right now.
I just want Harvey to be okay
I did everything I could to prevent him from becoming Two-Face (Though… more I slept with Selina, because I totally forgot they were "dating"), and he still ended up being an antagonist
What the fuck
I sent him to Arkham, because it seemed better than complete isolation, but fuck.
I'm honestly really pissed that, not only did the Save Harvey choice seem to have such little meaning, but everything I did to support Harvey (Choosing to come to his aid every chance I got, financially backing him even after he said he was gonna talk shit about Bruce, etc.) seemed to have been for nothing.
I have many complaints about this episode, but my main focus right now is Harvey.
It sucks that Episode 4 turned out like this. Until now, I considered Batman to be on par with Tales, which is easily Telltale's best game. Hopefully Episode 5 redeems the series. cough And Harvey cough
I'm an emotional wreck right now.
I just want Harvey to be okay
I did everything I could to prevent him from becoming Two-Face (Though… more I slept with Selina, because I totally forgot they were "dating"), and he still ended up being an antagonist
What the fuck
I sent him to Arkham, because it seemed better than complete isolation, but fuck.
I'm honestly really pissed that, not only did the Save Harvey choice seem to have such little meaning, but everything I did to support Harvey (Choosing to come to his aid every chance I got, financially backing him even after he said he was gonna talk shit about Bruce, etc.) seemed to have been for nothing.
I have many complaints about this episode, but my main focus right now is Harvey.
It sucks that Episode 4 turned out like this. Until now, I considered Batman to be on par with Tales, which is easily Telltale's best game. Hopefully Episode 5 redeems the series. cough And Harvey cough
It seems weird considering that Episode 1 had the mention of the ACE Chemicals fire, which made me assume going in that Joker hadn't been a patient there for too long, but apparently not? As for them, I guess it was a question of time restraints for the Arkham material. I'm sure that Quinzel and Crane are probably around the place somewhere.
My only problem is the lack of Harleen Quinzel, Hugo Strange, and Jonathan Crane.
What confuses me is why nobody knows how long Joker has been in Arkham. Are all the orderlies new there?
My only problem is the lack of Harleen Quinzel, Hugo Strange, and Jonathan Crane.
What confuses me is why nobody knows how long Joker has been in Arkham. Are all the orderlies new there?
After obsessively thinking about it, I've come to the conclusion that I kinda helped Harvey.
I prevented him from killing people in Episode 3, I kept him from blowing up Wayne Manor, and, after beating the fuck out of him, I told him that I still believed in him. I also sent him to Arkham, where he'll hopefully get the help he needs. Sure, Joker will be there to fuck with him, but I feel like Prison would be a bit worse, since it seems like a more hostile place. Harvey could lose his temper and get into fights or something.
Actually...Prison is probably better than Joker. Fuck.
Anyways, I'm hopeful that, by doing all the other stuff, I've kept him from descending too far into villainy.
I think the problem with Harvey really lies in the fact that you have no control over him getting injected and then fuelled either by parano… moreia or aggression (the choice you really have with Harvey vs Selina in Episode 2) thinking you slept with Selina (whether you did or not). And apparently thanks to the toxin that's all he needs to now hate you and be totally happy with locking you in Arkham, blaming your parents actions on you, trying to take everything you own and ignite martial law. All cause of what might not have actually happened with Selina and his injection..
So really it seems like Harvey is doomed, the poor fella. I can't even send him somewhere other than Arkham Asylum, because would you really trust them to help in the condition it's in, so guess it's confinement in Blackgate for you , Harv.
The Selina scene is so weak its incredible. I know people have mentioned it, but two seconds long and with no actual impact ... it seems like that plot line is dead and buried. Well done Tell Tale.
I had a lack of music in the section between Batman and the kid, at least I assume there was meant to be music sine it was oddly quiet. On the other hand it was quite loud at points where the Joker was talking and I was grateful to have subtitles on.
The biggest issue I had was a game freeze right as I had finished the fight with Harvey and his arm was on fire. All the more irritating when I found that I had like five minutes of game left to play, though thankfully it remembered exactly where I was after.
Oh and I didn't have any news clippings in the Batcave, it was blank for some reason.
The Selina scene is so weak its incredible. I know people have mentioned it, but two seconds long and with no actual impact ... it seems like that plot line is dead and buried. Well done Tell Tale.
I'm fairly certain with the way Tell-Tale deals with your choices, that if you had told her to leave, she would have stayed. Choices seem not to matter, one bit.
I'm fairly certain with the way Tell-Tale deals with your choices, that if you had told her to leave, she would have stayed. Choices seem not to matter, one bit.
Probably my least favorite episode in the entire Telltale franchise. Not only does Batman get his ass kicked way too many times (you know, the guy that can take down freaking Superman) but the only person I got to beat up was Penguin, and honestly, I don't even hate him that much, dude has a point, the Wayne's took everything from him AND we already got to beat him within an inch of his life. If I couldn't have my rematch with "Lady Arkham" than I at least wanted to give Harvey his second face (since I saved him from getting it the first time). So...
Pros
- Joker helping Bruce Wayne
- Helping the kid (maybe he can be our future Robin, I'd like that)
- Making a tough choice between our home or our tech
Cons
-Making Selina have only one damn scene, and it's just to say goodbye
-Not showing Harvey's decent into madness, just making him a dick right off the bat
-Making every citizen in Gotham unlikable, seriously, they attack me and give me dirty looks just because my dead father did something horrible two decades ago and I beat someone up that no one cared about before all the controversy, screw those guys, time to bring in Flashpoint Batman
However, I still like this series as I am a huge Batman fan and I hope everything comes together in the final episode (and that Telltale doesn't do it's usual "your choices don't really have much impact" thing)
I don't know how to feel about this episode, in all honesty. I liked it well enough, and I feel like an emotional wreck, but some things just felt...off. The pacing could feel a little wanky at times, but nothing too major there.
If any of you have seen absolutely anything I've posted in this subforum, then you'd know that Harvey's one of my favorite characters in this series. I don't like to declare favorites, but maybe I'd go that far. I was really thinking that we'd get to see more of his human side again, considering, for me at least, that everything I've done I've done the bro way. They seemed to really tune into his aggressive, mentally ill side instead of focusing on his humanity and morality. This felt a little disappointing. Though, at the same time, every scene with Harvey did kill my heart in more ways than one. When I went after him at the Wayne Manor and he was getting burnt, I was absolutely flipping the hell out. I thought the flames would reach the face for a moment. He tried to kill me as both Bruce and Batman, so that was...nice. Still, of course I had to say "I still believe in Harvey Dent" at the end there. I felt that the Asylum might be the better option for him. It's obviously not the best place to receive mental aid, but I figure there's at least a chance to help him there, as where jail really seems to hold no chances to aid in recovery. I don't mind that he may not be redeemable at this point, it's really just the fact that very little of his humanity was shown. Obviously his "good side" wouldn't have to be all encompassing, but it would be nice to see a few sparks of it. It wasn't nonexistent though, so eh. I just finished five minutes ago, and I'm a wreck who can't concentrate or think straight, so I'm not really doing a detailed or logical critical analysis at the moment. Yeah, pardon any extra stupidity from me here. God, they did manage to really hone in on my emotions with all of the Harvey sections though. Damn, I feel awful!
Anyway, I did enjoy the Arkham Asylum bit. It was pretty interesting, although it went a little fast. I really did enjoy the section at Vicki's house. Sheesh, she sure went wild there, didn't she? Poor kid. I love that sort of parallel that we're seeing between Bruce and all those other parentless souls. Off to watch alternate playthroughs! So, it wasn't a bad episode, it just wasn't my favorite. I thought it was okay overall.
Oh, and also, Selina was at my mansion for some reason. I didn't tell her to stay, and I didn't tell her to go, so I thought that would mean she would just stick with her own plan and leave. Seeing her there was a little startling.
Yeah... that Vicki scene... sorry Victoria Arkham scene
During episode 3 I just assumed she wanted to hurt Hill, Falcone, and the Waynes but seeing as how she dealt the Vales... she was WAY more messed up then I thought which is a shame because I thought her point of view was interesting in the Children of Arkham fight in episode 3 as sort of a Handsome Jack Villain who is actually trying to do good. Sad to see that they may just be going for the standard unstable villain
I don't know how to feel about this episode, in all honesty. I liked it well enough, and I feel like an emotional wreck, but some things jus… moret felt...off. The pacing could feel a little wanky at times, but nothing too major there.
If any of you have seen absolutely anything I've posted in this subforum, then you'd know that Harvey's one of my favorite characters in this series. I don't like to declare favorites, but maybe I'd go that far. I was really thinking that we'd get to see more of his human side again, considering, for me at least, that everything I've done I've done the bro way. They seemed to really tune into his aggressive, mentally ill side instead of focusing on his humanity and morality. This felt a little disappointing. Though, at the same time, every scene with Harvey did kill my heart in more ways than one. When I went after him at the Wayne Manor and he was getting burnt, I was absolutely flipping the hell out. I thought t… [view original content]
So....i go to replay the episode and on the previously on Batman section it's showing all these choices i didn't make! Saving Selina, turning down Selina at her apartment, telling Fox to stay at Wayne Enterprises. That's very frustrating.
Did you copy your file and then restart?
Yea that seems to be a problem if you do that...
should copy the file BEFORE you play it the first time in the future. Sucks but that's how it works apparently in this game...
To get the exact choices you should either copy another file that hasn't played 4 or start all over to get your choices transferred.
It's a real bummer.
So....i go to replay the episode and on the previously on Batman section it's showing all these choices i didn't make! Saving Selina, turning down Selina at her apartment, telling Fox to stay at Wayne Enterprises. That's very frustrating.
Comments
They may have a large level outline, but I doubt they had all the details nailed down. There are small glitches to me that show they overlooked stuff, and what happens with Selina, to me, implies they had an oh crap moment, and needed to boot her out of episode 4 to deal with other stuff.
I went with Blackgate since I was convinced that Harvey is likely to get worse in Arkham, not better. And I still believe in Harvey Dent, even if he does have to answer for some of his crimes and he TOTALLY OVER-REACTED to me NOT SLEEPING WITH SELINA DUDE.
I was half swearing at the tv when my not scarred Harvey got his arm burnt up higher and higher and I was thinking 'shit he's going to get scarred anyway!' but then it stopped and I thought 'oh, well that's bemusing'.
Very well done episode, gutted what happened to Harvey after all my attempts to save him but my mind told me I couldn't let Alfred die. And now the Batcave is offline. Greattttttttttttt.
...Lucius will have some work to do, me thinks. But at least Harvey is dealt with and hopefully safe from himself as much as anyone else. Oh and THANKS FOR BEING NO HELP AT ALL SELINA. Happy I didn't sleep with that woman.
I can't express how sorry I am for those who wanted to redeem Harvey, maybe it's not too late but it's unlikely now.
I wonder what happens when the mayor himself is locked up, who will take his place ? The CoA must be watching.
I'm sure Selina will come back in some form, either as a anti-hero in the process of redemption or as a straight up villain.
Loved it, loved it, loved it.
A little annoyed that I visited Harvey as Batman. I ruined his great opinion of him and I went to Wayne Tower instead of the manor. Meaning Harvey is still around and doesn't like Batman. I am so stupid.
It seems like all the odds are stacked against you, though I really feel like if Bruce had really gotten the opportunity to let Harvey know that nothing happened between him and Selina and that Harvey had been prepared to listen - which given the serum was less likely anyway - we might have the best chance. I also hated sending him to Blackgate, but I know Arkham would never cure him with the crazies around him.
Plus he burned your house down and Alfred might be dead. But yeah, I wished I had gone to see him as Bruce instead.
I really liked this episode! I thought the choices were pretty good and I really liked this joker as well! I liked how he was kind at some moments and then all of a sudden he would have a outburst!
I am concerned about Alfred as well. I'm just annoyed at myself because I could've benefited more if I went as Bruce.
"Us nice guys have got to stick together"
The Bruce visit is in some ways more brutal. He plans to kill Bruce and stage a suicide. Sleeping with Selina is not THAT big of a thing. And he'll realize Batman isn't on the same page as him soon enough.
First episode I didn't like. It just felt rushed.
Pretty sure most of everyone should have saw this coming since episode 3 where Harvey becomes crazy no matter if you saved him or not.
Ok so I liked this episode. 103 still remains my favorite but here are my pros and cons.
Pros:
Great variety with choices. Visiting Harvey as Bruce or Batman and then having to choose whether to go to Wayne Manor or Wayne Enterprises.
Finally getting the chance to beat up Oz.
It was a good build up to what I expect is going to be a riveting season finale!
That was a big choice, lose your tech or lose your house. I chose to lose my house but either way is bad! Good on Telltale for making such a difficult decision.
Cons:
SELINA WHYYYY. So my Bruce has been pro Selina 100%. Saved her, slept with her, invited her to stay. Stupid writing on making her leave even though she's (hopefully) returning in the finale. Just another example of our choices really don't matter because we'll be writing her off for the episode 5 minutes in if you asked her to stay. I get it's her character to be conflicted between right and wrong, but still, after she saved Batman in 103, I have hope that BatCat will live on!
The frame issues weren't too bad this episode but they were still there. God I hope they're fixed by time ANF rolls around.
Length and pacing. I agree it did feel rushed at some points.
I'll give it a 6.5/10. I expect great things come next month! Batman finale and Walking Dead returns! WOOO!
The coin is almost irrelevant to Harvey now. He only uses it for trivial little details, like shooting someone in the head or heart. The coin doesn't control his actions, which in its own way is much worse, because now he really IS unhinged.
I'm an emotional wreck right now.
I just want Harvey to be okay
I did everything I could to prevent him from becoming Two-Face (Though I slept with Selina, because I totally forgot they were "dating"), and he still ended up being an antagonist
What the fuck
I sent him to Arkham, because it seemed better than complete isolation, but fuck.
I'm honestly really pissed that, not only did the Save Harvey choice seem to have such little meaning, but everything I did to support Harvey (Choosing to come to his aid every chance I got, financially backing him even after he said he was gonna talk shit about Bruce, etc.) seemed to have been for nothing.
I have many complaints about this episode, but my main focus right now is Harvey.
It sucks that Episode 4 turned out like this. Until now, I considered Batman to be on par with Tales, which is easily Telltale's best game. Hopefully Episode 5 redeems the series. cough And Harvey cough
Harvey's role in this episode was definitely a huge disappointment for me, especially taking into account how great he was in part 3.
That was by far my favorite episode yet! Their take on Joker was fantastic.
I think the problem with Harvey really lies in the fact that you have no control over him getting injected and then fuelled either by paranoia or aggression (the choice you really have with Harvey vs Selina in Episode 2) thinking you slept with Selina (whether you did or not). And apparently thanks to the toxin that's all he needs to now hate you and be totally happy with locking you in Arkham, blaming your parents actions on you, trying to take everything you own and ignite martial law. All cause of what might not have actually happened with Selina and his injection..
So really it seems like Harvey is doomed, the poor fella. I can't even send him somewhere other than Arkham Asylum, because would you really trust them to help in the condition it's in, so guess it's confinement in Blackgate for you , Harv.
I know what you feel.
My only problem is the lack of Harleen Quinzel, Hugo Strange, and Jonathan Crane.
What confuses me is why nobody knows how long Joker has been in Arkham. Are all the orderlies new there?
It seems weird considering that Episode 1 had the mention of the ACE Chemicals fire, which made me assume going in that Joker hadn't been a patient there for too long, but apparently not? As for them, I guess it was a question of time restraints for the Arkham material. I'm sure that Quinzel and Crane are probably around the place somewhere.
I kinda just assumed that Dr. Leland was Telltale's replacement for Quinzel, since Joker seemed to have a bit of a thing for her.
After obsessively thinking about it, I've come to the conclusion that I kinda helped Harvey.
I prevented him from killing people in Episode 3, I kept him from blowing up Wayne Manor, and, after beating the fuck out of him, I told him that I still believed in him. I also sent him to Arkham, where he'll hopefully get the help he needs. Sure, Joker will be there to fuck with him, but I feel like Prison would be a bit worse, since it seems like a more hostile place. Harvey could lose his temper and get into fights or something.
Actually...Prison is probably better than Joker. Fuck.
Anyways, I'm hopeful that, by doing all the other stuff, I've kept him from descending too far into villainy.
Or maybe I'm just in denial.
That seems more likely.
This was really good episode. I really liked the scene where Batman is talking to the orphaned kid, and the final showdown at Wayne Manor.
The Selina scene is so weak its incredible. I know people have mentioned it, but two seconds long and with no actual impact ... it seems like that plot line is dead and buried. Well done Tell Tale.
I watched SwingPoynt's let's play of the episode and some of the sound didn't work during dramatic moments. Did anyone else have that problem too?
I had a lack of music in the section between Batman and the kid, at least I assume there was meant to be music sine it was oddly quiet. On the other hand it was quite loud at points where the Joker was talking and I was grateful to have subtitles on.
The biggest issue I had was a game freeze right as I had finished the fight with Harvey and his arm was on fire. All the more irritating when I found that I had like five minutes of game left to play, though thankfully it remembered exactly where I was after.
Oh and I didn't have any news clippings in the Batcave, it was blank for some reason.
Not me.
Good thing i told her to get out of Gotham.
I'm fairly certain with the way Tell-Tale deals with your choices, that if you had told her to leave, she would have stayed. Choices seem not to matter, one bit.
She didn't.
Was meant as a joke.
Probably my least favorite episode in the entire Telltale franchise. Not only does Batman get his ass kicked way too many times (you know, the guy that can take down freaking Superman) but the only person I got to beat up was Penguin, and honestly, I don't even hate him that much, dude has a point, the Wayne's took everything from him AND we already got to beat him within an inch of his life. If I couldn't have my rematch with "Lady Arkham" than I at least wanted to give Harvey his second face (since I saved him from getting it the first time). So...
Pros
- Joker helping Bruce Wayne
- Helping the kid (maybe he can be our future Robin, I'd like that)
- Making a tough choice between our home or our tech
Cons
-Making Selina have only one damn scene, and it's just to say goodbye
-Not showing Harvey's decent into madness, just making him a dick right off the bat
-Making every citizen in Gotham unlikable, seriously, they attack me and give me dirty looks just because my dead father did something horrible two decades ago and I beat someone up that no one cared about before all the controversy, screw those guys, time to bring in Flashpoint Batman
However, I still like this series as I am a huge Batman fan and I hope everything comes together in the final episode (and that Telltale doesn't do it's usual "your choices don't really have much impact" thing)
I don't know how to feel about this episode, in all honesty. I liked it well enough, and I feel like an emotional wreck, but some things just felt...off. The pacing could feel a little wanky at times, but nothing too major there.
If any of you have seen absolutely anything I've posted in this subforum, then you'd know that Harvey's one of my favorite characters in this series. I don't like to declare favorites, but maybe I'd go that far. I was really thinking that we'd get to see more of his human side again, considering, for me at least, that everything I've done I've done the bro way. They seemed to really tune into his aggressive, mentally ill side instead of focusing on his humanity and morality. This felt a little disappointing. Though, at the same time, every scene with Harvey did kill my heart in more ways than one. When I went after him at the Wayne Manor and he was getting burnt, I was absolutely flipping the hell out. I thought the flames would reach the face for a moment. He tried to kill me as both Bruce and Batman, so that was...nice. Still, of course I had to say "I still believe in Harvey Dent" at the end there. I felt that the Asylum might be the better option for him. It's obviously not the best place to receive mental aid, but I figure there's at least a chance to help him there, as where jail really seems to hold no chances to aid in recovery. I don't mind that he may not be redeemable at this point, it's really just the fact that very little of his humanity was shown. Obviously his "good side" wouldn't have to be all encompassing, but it would be nice to see a few sparks of it. It wasn't nonexistent though, so eh. I just finished five minutes ago, and I'm a wreck who can't concentrate or think straight, so I'm not really doing a detailed or logical critical analysis at the moment. Yeah, pardon any extra stupidity from me here. God, they did manage to really hone in on my emotions with all of the Harvey sections though. Damn, I feel awful!
Anyway, I did enjoy the Arkham Asylum bit. It was pretty interesting, although it went a little fast. I really did enjoy the section at Vicki's house. Sheesh, she sure went wild there, didn't she? Poor kid. I love that sort of parallel that we're seeing between Bruce and all those other parentless souls. Off to watch alternate playthroughs! So, it wasn't a bad episode, it just wasn't my favorite. I thought it was okay overall.
Oh, and also, Selina was at my mansion for some reason. I didn't tell her to stay, and I didn't tell her to go, so I thought that would mean she would just stick with her own plan and leave. Seeing her there was a little startling.
Yeah... that Vicki scene... sorry Victoria Arkham scene
During episode 3 I just assumed she wanted to hurt Hill, Falcone, and the Waynes but seeing as how she dealt the Vales... she was WAY more messed up then I thought which is a shame because I thought her point of view was interesting in the Children of Arkham fight in episode 3 as sort of a Handsome Jack Villain who is actually trying to do good. Sad to see that they may just be going for the standard unstable villain
So....i go to replay the episode and on the previously on Batman section it's showing all these choices i didn't make! Saving Selina, turning down Selina at her apartment, telling Fox to stay at Wayne Enterprises. That's very frustrating.
Did you copy your file and then restart?
Yea that seems to be a problem if you do that...
should copy the file BEFORE you play it the first time in the future. Sucks but that's how it works apparently in this game...
To get the exact choices you should either copy another file that hasn't played 4 or start all over to get your choices transferred.
It's a real bummer.
Does Montoya always show up with Gordon after you save the child? She handed in her badge in episode 3 and here she is back on the force.