Who cares if you believe in God or not, just say it. Pledge is a US tradition that's why liberals are trying to destroy it. You're living in… more a beautiful, rich country yet you're looking for problems in places where they aren't. I know many peoples who would repeat those few sentences day and night just to get a chance to live "american dream".
You can do whatever you wish. Whether or not I believe you should say it has no relevance to if you should be made to say it. Tell him to fuck the fuck off.
I don't really enjoy saying it either and all public schools have to say it in the morning but it means nothing to me but last yum I did the plaedge was like 3 years ago.
Also understand that the tradition of saying the pledge was only 51 years old at the time. It was created in 1892...more as a way of driving home the fact that the Civil war was over and the nation was indivisible ...ie the South lost...get over it. It was a healing and propaganda tool in other words. Through the years words were added here and there...1954 was the last update with the words under God added.
You can do whatever you wish. Whether or not I believe you should say it has no relevance to if you should be made to say it. Tell him to fuck the fuck off.
In my opinion, no one should be forced to say something if they do not want to, wouldn't that be tampering with an individual's rights? Where I live we do sing our country's national anthem but I choose to do it out of respect for the country I call home and because I personally find the anthem catchy and also happen to enjoy singing. A person has the right to free speech, right? Then they should also have the right to refuse to speak. If people don't respect your rights, then perhaps they need to learn those rights - I feel as though few people actually realize all their rights.
Doesn't matter. Tell him to send you to the principles office if needs to (and that you'll be back momentarily). He can't do anything to you, seeing as they've got you covered all the way up to the Supreme Court.
Just say it, those words are a pledge to your country and yourself it says God but you're pledging alliance under him not to him as in he is watching the nation. Also if you think there's injustice to minorities in USA that's because you don't live here in my country here churches beat gay people in the street and cops kill them randomly, before you complain about you country, see how other countries are and be thankful you have to say a pledge to such a great land because some people would die to be in your place.
Just say it, those words are a pledge to your country and yourself it says God but you're pledging alliance under him not to him as in he is… more watching the nation. Also if you think there's injustice to minorities in USA that's because you don't live here in my country here churches beat gay people in the street and cops kill them randomly, before you complain about you country, see how other countries are and be thankful you have to say a pledge to such a great land because some people would die to be in your place.
Your school sounds bad. I never cared about the pledge and just did it because it was rule. But now I don't like it at all. It reminds me of how the nazis would pledge allegiance. Schools really should stop doing it.
I, personally, am very Christian and I love America. This is my opinion: No, you absolutely don't need to recite the pledge because we have the 1st Amendment, but it REALLY bothers me when people step on the flag, sit for the National Anthem, don't recite the pledge, etc. The reason is because we as Americans are more free than any citizens of any country in the history of the world--if you disagree with this, it means you are not intellectually honest. One thing in your statement I disagree with is that minorities don't have their many rights guaranteed by the Constitution; the truth is this: All minorities in this great country have their full rights guaranteed by the Constitution (admittedly, it took a damn long time). Don't believe everything the media is telling you. The final right that any minority needed, and didn't have, was Gay Marriage which was finally resolved, so I don't really see how your argument about the "Liberty and Justice for All" part in the pledge works. One last thing: My Atheist classmate recites the Pledge and says every part except "Under God", which works out IMO. Just my two cents about the issue.
Just say it, those words are a pledge to your country and yourself it says God but you're pledging alliance under him not to him as in he is… more watching the nation. Also if you think there's injustice to minorities in USA that's because you don't live here in my country here churches beat gay people in the street and cops kill them randomly, before you complain about you country, see how other countries are and be thankful you have to say a pledge to such a great land because some people would die to be in your place.
The reason is because we as Americans are more free than any citizens of any country in the history of the world--if you disagree with this, it means you are not intellectually honest.
Canada? Sweden? Denmark? New Zealand? Switzerland? The Netherlands?
Citizens have a lot of freedom here, but it's honestly a little ignorant to pretend that we're literally the freest country in the world. Our freedom is decreasing as the years pass by, and it's not "intellectually dishonest" to recognize that.
I, personally, am very Christian and I love America. This is my opinion: No, you absolutely don't need to recite the pledge because we have … morethe 1st Amendment, but it REALLY bothers me when people step on the flag, sit for the National Anthem, don't recite the pledge, etc. The reason is because we as Americans are more free than any citizens of any country in the history of the world--if you disagree with this, it means you are not intellectually honest. One thing in your statement I disagree with is that minorities don't have their many rights guaranteed by the Constitution; the truth is this: All minorities in this great country have their full rights guaranteed by the Constitution (admittedly, it took a damn long time). Don't believe everything the media is telling you. The final right that any minority needed, and didn't have, was Gay Marriage which was finally resolved, so I don't really see how your argument about the "Liberty and Justic… [view original content]
I, personally, am very Christian and I love America. This is my opinion: No, you absolutely don't need to recite the pledge because we have … morethe 1st Amendment, but it REALLY bothers me when people step on the flag, sit for the National Anthem, don't recite the pledge, etc. The reason is because we as Americans are more free than any citizens of any country in the history of the world--if you disagree with this, it means you are not intellectually honest. One thing in your statement I disagree with is that minorities don't have their many rights guaranteed by the Constitution; the truth is this: All minorities in this great country have their full rights guaranteed by the Constitution (admittedly, it took a damn long time). Don't believe everything the media is telling you. The final right that any minority needed, and didn't have, was Gay Marriage which was finally resolved, so I don't really see how your argument about the "Liberty and Justic… [view original content]
Just say it, those words are a pledge to your country and yourself it says God but you're pledging alliance under him not to him as in he is… more watching the nation. Also if you think there's injustice to minorities in USA that's because you don't live here in my country here churches beat gay people in the street and cops kill them randomly, before you complain about you country, see how other countries are and be thankful you have to say a pledge to such a great land because some people would die to be in your place.
Bring up Socialist countries where they have less freedoms than us Americans. Ok, but that's not very intellectually honest, like I said. We are literally the freest country in the world (not the only free country, that's obvious), but still, we are the freest. Please, try to name one freedom we don't have compared to other countries.
The reason is because we as Americans are more free than any citizens of any country in the history of the world--if you disagree with this,… more it means you are not intellectually honest.
Canada? Sweden? Denmark? New Zealand? Switzerland? The Netherlands?
Citizens have a lot of freedom here, but it's honestly a little ignorant to pretend that we're literally the freest country in the world. Our freedom is decreasing as the years pass by, and it's not "intellectually dishonest" to recognize that.
Our draconian war on drugs comes to mind. voluntary exchange and personal vices are no business of the state in a free society. Other countries (such as Portugal) have decriminalized drugs, with great success.
Lack of freedom from cruel and unusual punishment, such as solitary confinement. A barbaric practice confined to the worst of the worst in other countries but routinely used on prisoners for minor infractions here.
Excessively curbed right to privacy.
Right to legal counsel exists in name only in many cases.
Insane patent/intellectual property laws that stifle competition and economic freedom.
That's not even taking into account non-constitutional "rights" that people in many European countries enjoy, such as access to high quality, public education and true collective bargaining instead of the pale shadow of union activity that exists here.
Also, Canada? Socialist? Their furthest left party is social democrat and they aren't even in power. None of the others are socialist either, but they at least represent the classic, social democratic model, so it's an easy mistake to make.
Bring up Socialist countries where they have less freedoms than us Americans. Ok, but that's not very intellectually honest, like I said. We… more are literally the freest country in the world (not the only free country, that's obvious), but still, we are the freest. Please, try to name one freedom we don't have compared to other countries.
Oh come on Kenny Should Die. America is great for everyone even if you're a minority compared to other places in the world. My dad's people … morecame from Italy during WW1 waving the Americans flag and cheering on the boat with others. I think that the problem with this generation is that it as a whole is flawed. I'm 23 and was raised by my 1927 born grandfather. I feel that people complain too much and give up so easily that are near my age. Many people are lazy and do not work hard labor. Mexicans I've worked with work hard and don't complain, they smile and have fun with what they do. Cops in my area crack down on the pill drug abuse in my area and are jerks to everyone, I don't even like cops to be honest. I do not agree with a thing that BLM does, you act as a criminal and riot, you get your just desserts. My fiancé is Irish Scottish and Black. She has every right that a full White woman does, she goes to college with everyone else, she works hard and doesn't believe in White privilege as I don't believe in it either.
* Our draconian war on drugs comes to mind. voluntary exchange and personal vices are no business of the state in a free society. Other co… moreuntries (such as Portugal) have decriminalized drugs, with great success.
* Lack of freedom from cruel and unusual punishment, such as solitary confinement. A barbaric practice confined to the worst of the worst in other countries but routinely used on prisoners for minor infractions here.
* Excessively curbed right to privacy.
* Right to legal counsel exists in name only in many cases.
* Insane patent/intellectual property laws that stifle competition and economic freedom.
That's not even taking into account non-constitutional "rights" that people in many European countries enjoy, such as access to high quality, public education and true collective bargaining instead of the pale shadow of union activity that exists here.
Also, Canada? Socialist? Their furthest left party is social… [view original content]
It's good to see some conservatives get it! . The current approach will never work.
Unfortunately, miscarrying justice is a racket and there's a lot of people benefiting greatly from the current state of affairs. (not all are shady, this includes people like guards who have jobs within it.).
It's not just criminal justice though. Generally, we're getting better and better here with matters of identity, but I'd still argue that liberty in general is kinda going down the toilet in a lot of ways. Government is bigger and more violent now that possibly ever before.
Just say it, those words are a pledge to your country and yourself it says God but you're pledging alliance under him not to him as in he is… more watching the nation. Also if you think there's injustice to minorities in USA that's because you don't live here in my country here churches beat gay people in the street and cops kill them randomly, before you complain about you country, see how other countries are and be thankful you have to say a pledge to such a great land because some people would die to be in your place.
No that video is dishonest...it talks to only one type of person...one who is predisposed to believe only what conservative radio and talking heads want...first off his argument that someone saying they have voted for both parties is a red flag is in itself a red flag that the video maker is not trying to be fair...no he is pushing his own agenda. And then he mentions in canada how guns are regulated without mentioning the crimerates in canada...then he does not bother to talk about the other countries listed just pointing out their high tax rates without noting the healthcare there...then turns to an anti muslin diatribe. And of course I could forgive your use of him if he had not been caught editing footage of a supposed attack on him by union members in Michigan...the heavily edited video was debunked and he finally had to release the real video. This man is smart..but a liar. He himself is an entertainer not a real journalist. So for him to try and mock a video of a admittedly fake newcaster and pass himself off as one...is a bit hypocritical. And does not even debunk what the NewsRoom Video was saying...which is this nation has lost it's way...hell Trump fans should love this video...except it points out some real problems.
My life is the very opposite of "Oz", Fancies. I daily struggle with Acute Intermittent Porphyria, the rarest disease out there. Basically my blood is not processed correctly and at times physical and mental problems happen. The mental problems at times are basically paranoia and schizophrenia and Dementia. I can lose parylisis in my legs and arms and movement is difficult. In fact at times I have the body of a 80 year old or someone with Parkinson Disease and dementia. I can have blood drops run from my nose and lose conciousness and act like a devil if I miss a lunch time. I actually made my fiancé cry one time that way and I barely remember talking to her in that state. I have intestinal problems and throw up sometimes. I still do not complain and work hard. If I were you I'd pledge and not complain. If bullies are your problem, beat them up or make powerful friends to beat them up, don't take it out on the flag. I'm 23 and work harder than most because I don't let a disability control my life.
* Our draconian war on drugs comes to mind. voluntary exchange and personal vices are no business of the state in a free society. Other co… moreuntries (such as Portugal) have decriminalized drugs, with great success.
* Lack of freedom from cruel and unusual punishment, such as solitary confinement. A barbaric practice confined to the worst of the worst in other countries but routinely used on prisoners for minor infractions here.
* Excessively curbed right to privacy.
* Right to legal counsel exists in name only in many cases.
* Insane patent/intellectual property laws that stifle competition and economic freedom.
That's not even taking into account non-constitutional "rights" that people in many European countries enjoy, such as access to high quality, public education and true collective bargaining instead of the pale shadow of union activity that exists here.
Also, Canada? Socialist? Their furthest left party is social… [view original content]
Easy way to solve this... Just come back to the family fold of the UK! There you go!
Joking aside, I feel that the pledge of allegiance is misplaced, it shouldn't be for the flag, but for the country. A flag is just a symbol of a country.
Also, "One Nation Under God" was added in the 1950's as a reaction to the expansion of Atheist communist ideals, which were viewed as threatening the American Way.
fun fact: The Pledge of Allegiance was created simply as a means of boosting flag sales in the 19th century.
They're indefinite, state sanctioned monopolies, maintained through force. That's antithetical to "free enterprise" and could be seen as an attack on liberty.
I could go into why I absolutely despite them (for both personal and pragmatic reasons), but I don't wanna derail the thread.
"Insane patent/intellectual property laws that stifle competition and economic freedom"
I'm curious what you're referring to? Btw, when you say intellectual property I'm thinking strictly from an entertainment industry perspective.
Well
1: My gut reaction was again, in relation to the entertainment industry, so it seems like we're talking about two different things there, but,
2: Just curious, what would be your solution? I see there is a need to protect somebody from immediately ripping off and duplicating a particular invention, but at the same time yes, there is too often an enforced monopoly? What do you think is a good balance?
I think pharmaceuticals is a bit trickier since that is a public necessity (though perhaps that's where the rubber hits the road).
I don't agree or disagree, I don't have an answer myself, to be honest.
*Just noticed you were worried about getting too off topic - feel free to pm me or raise in the political thread or wherever, or not lol.
They're indefinite, state sanctioned monopolies, maintained through force. That's antithetical to "free enterprise" and could be seen as an… more attack on liberty.
I could go into why I absolutely despite them (for both personal and pragmatic reasons), but I don't wanna derail the thread.
And of course I could forgive your use of him if he had not been caught editing footage of a supposed attack on him by union members in Michigan...the heavily edited video was debunked and he finally had to release the real video.
No that video is dishonest...it talks to only one type of person...one who is predisposed to believe only what conservative radio and talkin… moreg heads want...first off his argument that someone saying they have voted for both parties is a red flag is in itself a red flag that the video maker is not trying to be fair...no he is pushing his own agenda. And then he mentions in canada how guns are regulated without mentioning the crimerates in canada...then he does not bother to talk about the other countries listed just pointing out their high tax rates without noting the healthcare there...then turns to an anti muslin diatribe. And of course I could forgive your use of him if he had not been caught editing footage of a supposed attack on him by union members in Michigan...the heavily edited video was debunked and he finally had to release the real video. This man is smart..but a liar. He himself is an entertainer not a real journalist. So for… [view original content]
FTFY. You can rant about MSNBC and HuffPo all you want and I'll agree with you, but if you go looking for the truth a Breitbart or FOX, you're going to find yourself disappointed or deluded.
Well
1: My gut reaction was again, in relation to the entertainment industry, so it seems like we're talking about two different things th… moreere, but,
2: Just curious, what would be your solution? I see there is a need to protect somebody from immediately ripping off and duplicating a particular invention, but at the same time yes, there is too often an enforced monopoly? What do you think is a good balance?
I think pharmaceuticals is a bit trickier since that is a public necessity (though perhaps that's where the rubber hits the road).
I don't agree or disagree, I don't have an answer myself, to be honest.
*Just noticed you were worried about getting too off topic - feel free to pm me or raise in the political thread or wherever, or not lol.
Don't worry, I also think FOX News is biased and a bit dishonest at times (less so than MSNBC, HuffPo, Slate, etc.). I also don't agree with everything Breitbart says (a lot of their columns are opinionated) and I don't always let my bias do the talking.
Case in point: the media is dishonest.
FTFY. You can rant about MSNBC and HuffPo all you want and I'll agree with you, but if you go looking for the truth a Breitbart or FOX, you're going to find yourself disappointed or deluded.
You're right, it only talks to the intellectually honest person and no, I don't only believe what conservative radio talking heads say. That would be completely ignorant of me. In plenty of other videos he has talked about crime rate in Canada and European countries vs. America (and how non-gun violence is out of control outside of America). He has noted Canadian healthcare in other videos. One example would be when he brought up how the Canadian Supreme Court ruled their healthcare system is in violation of human rights. He doesn't turn to an Anti-Muslim diatribe; he turns to an Anti-Islamic Terror diatribe, there's a huge difference. I'll admit: Yes, the video of him being attacked was edited, but he was nonetheless attacked. He's never claimed to be a journalist, just like Sean Hannity. Again, he's never passed himself off as a newscaster. No, I don't love the News Room video because I don't like dishonesty, I like facts. On a side note, I can show you some of the videos where he has, indeed, talked about European and Canadian crime rates and healthcare.
No that video is dishonest...it talks to only one type of person...one who is predisposed to believe only what conservative radio and talkin… moreg heads want...first off his argument that someone saying they have voted for both parties is a red flag is in itself a red flag that the video maker is not trying to be fair...no he is pushing his own agenda. And then he mentions in canada how guns are regulated without mentioning the crimerates in canada...then he does not bother to talk about the other countries listed just pointing out their high tax rates without noting the healthcare there...then turns to an anti muslin diatribe. And of course I could forgive your use of him if he had not been caught editing footage of a supposed attack on him by union members in Michigan...the heavily edited video was debunked and he finally had to release the real video. This man is smart..but a liar. He himself is an entertainer not a real journalist. So for… [view original content]
I'm not stupid and the system is really, very broken. Just like gay-marriage should be federally protected (don't worry, Trump is for gay-marriage, it isn't going anywhere), otherwise it would be discriminatory. Some conservatives just need to admit the truth and they shouldn't lie.
It's good to see some conservatives get it! . The current approach will never work.
Unfortunately, miscarrying justice is a racket and th… moreere's a lot of people benefiting greatly from the current state of affairs. (not all are shady, this includes people like guards who have jobs within it.).
It's not just criminal justice though. Generally, we're getting better and better here with matters of identity, but I'd still argue that liberty in general is kinda going down the toilet in a lot of ways. Government is bigger and more violent now that possibly ever before.
My life is the very opposite of "Oz", Fancies. I daily struggle with Acute Intermittent Porphyria, the rarest disease out there. Basically m… morey blood is not processed correctly and at times physical and mental problems happen. The mental problems at times are basically paranoia and schizophrenia and Dementia. I can lose parylisis in my legs and arms and movement is difficult. In fact at times I have the body of a 80 year old or someone with Parkinson Disease and dementia. I can have blood drops run from my nose and lose conciousness and act like a devil if I miss a lunch time. I actually made my fiancé cry one time that way and I barely remember talking to her in that state. I have intestinal problems and throw up sometimes. I still do not complain and work hard. If I were you I'd pledge and not complain. If bullies are your problem, beat them up or make powerful friends to beat them up, don't take it out on the flag. I'm 23 and work harder than most because I don't let a disability control my life.
I think it should be up to each individual to decide what they will do, based on their conscience. That's the whole idea behind the The Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created Equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. "
And one of those rights is the right to free will.
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1943 Supreme Court Case...the Court ruled that no student shall be compelled to recite the pledge.
You can do whatever you wish. Whether or not I believe you should say it has no relevance to if you should be made to say it. Tell him to fuck the fuck off.
I don't really enjoy saying it either and all public schools have to say it in the morning but it means nothing to me but last yum I did the plaedge was like 3 years ago.
This country's going to hell.
“American love - like coke in green glass bottles... they don't make it ..." (Rorschach)
Also understand that the tradition of saying the pledge was only 51 years old at the time. It was created in 1892...more as a way of driving home the fact that the Civil war was over and the nation was indivisible ...ie the South lost...get over it. It was a healing and propaganda tool in other words. Through the years words were added here and there...1954 was the last update with the words under God added.
He's too strict. Hell, he even gets mad when someone isn't using their right hand for putting their hand on their heart!
In my opinion, no one should be forced to say something if they do not want to, wouldn't that be tampering with an individual's rights? Where I live we do sing our country's national anthem but I choose to do it out of respect for the country I call home and because I personally find the anthem catchy and also happen to enjoy singing. A person has the right to free speech, right? Then they should also have the right to refuse to speak. If people don't respect your rights, then perhaps they need to learn those rights - I feel as though few people actually realize all their rights.
Doesn't matter. Tell him to send you to the principles office if needs to (and that you'll be back momentarily). He can't do anything to you, seeing as they've got you covered all the way up to the Supreme Court.
Just say it, those words are a pledge to your country and yourself it says God but you're pledging alliance under him not to him as in he is watching the nation. Also if you think there's injustice to minorities in USA that's because you don't live here in my country here churches beat gay people in the street and cops kill them randomly, before you complain about you country, see how other countries are and be thankful you have to say a pledge to such a great land because some people would die to be in your place.
You are from...Brazil, if I remember correctly?
Your school sounds bad. I never cared about the pledge and just did it because it was rule. But now I don't like it at all. It reminds me of how the nazis would pledge allegiance. Schools really should stop doing it.
Yes.
I, personally, am very Christian and I love America. This is my opinion: No, you absolutely don't need to recite the pledge because we have the 1st Amendment, but it REALLY bothers me when people step on the flag, sit for the National Anthem, don't recite the pledge, etc. The reason is because we as Americans are more free than any citizens of any country in the history of the world--if you disagree with this, it means you are not intellectually honest. One thing in your statement I disagree with is that minorities don't have their many rights guaranteed by the Constitution; the truth is this: All minorities in this great country have their full rights guaranteed by the Constitution (admittedly, it took a damn long time). Don't believe everything the media is telling you. The final right that any minority needed, and didn't have, was Gay Marriage which was finally resolved, so I don't really see how your argument about the "Liberty and Justice for All" part in the pledge works. One last thing: My Atheist classmate recites the Pledge and says every part except "Under God", which works out IMO. Just my two cents about the issue.
I am sincerely sorry for the violence in your country....Sorry if this thread came as offense to you.
Canada? Sweden? Denmark? New Zealand? Switzerland? The Netherlands?
Citizens have a lot of freedom here, but it's honestly a little ignorant to pretend that we're literally the freest country in the world. Our freedom is decreasing as the years pass by, and it's not "intellectually dishonest" to recognize that.
Our difficult realities do not negate other people's difficult realities, Papai.
Uhh... That video. It's pretty dishonest.
Case and Point: The Liberal Media is Dishonest
Bring up Socialist countries where they have less freedoms than us Americans. Ok, but that's not very intellectually honest, like I said. We are literally the freest country in the world (not the only free country, that's obvious), but still, we are the freest. Please, try to name one freedom we don't have compared to other countries.
Our draconian war on drugs comes to mind. voluntary exchange and personal vices are no business of the state in a free society. Other countries (such as Portugal) have decriminalized drugs, with great success.
Lack of freedom from cruel and unusual punishment, such as solitary confinement. A barbaric practice confined to the worst of the worst in other countries but routinely used on prisoners for minor infractions here.
Excessively curbed right to privacy.
Right to legal counsel exists in name only in many cases.
Insane patent/intellectual property laws that stifle competition and economic freedom.
That's not even taking into account non-constitutional "rights" that people in many European countries enjoy, such as access to high quality, public education and true collective bargaining instead of the pale shadow of union activity that exists here.
Also, Canada? Socialist? Their furthest left party is social democrat and they aren't even in power. None of the others are socialist either, but they at least represent the classic, social democratic model, so it's an easy mistake to make.
If I recall people living in Denmark are rated as the happiest people on Earth per average.
Those are fine points to make and I'll admit: Our criminal justice system is fucked... we really need to reform it.
It's good to see some conservatives get it!
. The current approach will never work.
Unfortunately, miscarrying justice is a racket and there's a lot of people benefiting greatly from the current state of affairs. (not all are shady, this includes people like guards who have jobs within it.).
It's not just criminal justice though. Generally, we're getting better and better here with matters of identity, but I'd still argue that liberty in general is kinda going down the toilet in a lot of ways. Government is bigger and more violent now that possibly ever before.
"Your situation is bad, my situation is worse, therefore all the bad things in your life are meaningless".
No that video is dishonest...it talks to only one type of person...one who is predisposed to believe only what conservative radio and talking heads want...first off his argument that someone saying they have voted for both parties is a red flag is in itself a red flag that the video maker is not trying to be fair...no he is pushing his own agenda. And then he mentions in canada how guns are regulated without mentioning the crimerates in canada...then he does not bother to talk about the other countries listed just pointing out their high tax rates without noting the healthcare there...then turns to an anti muslin diatribe. And of course I could forgive your use of him if he had not been caught editing footage of a supposed attack on him by union members in Michigan...the heavily edited video was debunked and he finally had to release the real video. This man is smart..but a liar. He himself is an entertainer not a real journalist. So for him to try and mock a video of a admittedly fake newcaster and pass himself off as one...is a bit hypocritical. And does not even debunk what the NewsRoom Video was saying...which is this nation has lost it's way...hell Trump fans should love this video...except it points out some real problems.
My life is the very opposite of "Oz", Fancies. I daily struggle with Acute Intermittent Porphyria, the rarest disease out there. Basically my blood is not processed correctly and at times physical and mental problems happen. The mental problems at times are basically paranoia and schizophrenia and Dementia. I can lose parylisis in my legs and arms and movement is difficult. In fact at times I have the body of a 80 year old or someone with Parkinson Disease and dementia. I can have blood drops run from my nose and lose conciousness and act like a devil if I miss a lunch time. I actually made my fiancé cry one time that way and I barely remember talking to her in that state. I have intestinal problems and throw up sometimes. I still do not complain and work hard. If I were you I'd pledge and not complain. If bullies are your problem, beat them up or make powerful friends to beat them up, don't take it out on the flag. I'm 23 and work harder than most because I don't let a disability control my life.
"Insane patent/intellectual property laws that stifle competition and economic freedom"
I'm curious what you're referring to? Btw, when you say intellectual property I'm thinking strictly from an entertainment industry perspective.
Easy way to solve this... Just come back to the family fold of the UK! There you go!
Joking aside, I feel that the pledge of allegiance is misplaced, it shouldn't be for the flag, but for the country. A flag is just a symbol of a country.
Also, "One Nation Under God" was added in the 1950's as a reaction to the expansion of Atheist communist ideals, which were viewed as threatening the American Way.
fun fact: The Pledge of Allegiance was created simply as a means of boosting flag sales in the 19th century.
They're indefinite, state sanctioned monopolies, maintained through force. That's antithetical to "free enterprise" and could be seen as an attack on liberty.
I could go into why I absolutely despite them (for both personal and pragmatic reasons), but I don't wanna derail the thread.
Well
1: My gut reaction was again, in relation to the entertainment industry, so it seems like we're talking about two different things there, but,
2: Just curious, what would be your solution? I see there is a need to protect somebody from immediately ripping off and duplicating a particular invention, but at the same time yes, there is too often an enforced monopoly? What do you think is a good balance?
I think pharmaceuticals is a bit trickier since that is a public necessity (though perhaps that's where the rubber hits the road).
I don't agree or disagree, I don't have an answer myself, to be honest.
*Just noticed you were worried about getting too off topic - feel free to pm me or raise in the political thread or wherever, or not lol.
We shouldn't let his dreams be dreams!
FTFY. You can rant about MSNBC and HuffPo all you want and I'll agree with you, but if you go looking for the truth a Breitbart or FOX, you're going to find yourself disappointed or deluded.
Aight, cool. I'll bring the politics thread back from the dead in a bit.
Don't worry, I also think FOX News is biased and a bit dishonest at times (less so than MSNBC, HuffPo, Slate, etc.). I also don't agree with everything Breitbart says (a lot of their columns are opinionated) and I don't always let my bias do the talking.
You're right, it only talks to the intellectually honest person and no, I don't only believe what conservative radio talking heads say. That would be completely ignorant of me. In plenty of other videos he has talked about crime rate in Canada and European countries vs. America (and how non-gun violence is out of control outside of America). He has noted Canadian healthcare in other videos. One example would be when he brought up how the Canadian Supreme Court ruled their healthcare system is in violation of human rights. He doesn't turn to an Anti-Muslim diatribe; he turns to an Anti-Islamic Terror diatribe, there's a huge difference. I'll admit: Yes, the video of him being attacked was edited, but he was nonetheless attacked. He's never claimed to be a journalist, just like Sean Hannity. Again, he's never passed himself off as a newscaster. No, I don't love the News Room video because I don't like dishonesty, I like facts. On a side note, I can show you some of the videos where he has, indeed, talked about European and Canadian crime rates and healthcare.
I'm not stupid and the system is really, very broken. Just like gay-marriage should be federally protected (don't worry, Trump is for gay-marriage, it isn't going anywhere), otherwise it would be discriminatory. Some conservatives just need to admit the truth and they shouldn't lie.
Never said his problems were meaningless i just said that there are worse places and he should question if things are truly that bad.
That's sad and all, but is completely irrelevant to this thread. It honestly means nothing in this scenario.
I think it should be up to each individual to decide what they will do, based on their conscience. That's the whole idea behind the The Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created Equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. "
And one of those rights is the right to free will.