When I say evil I mean apathetic and remorseless. He has at no point shown that he regrets anything he did or felt it was wrong. Redemption is not possible with that.
Doing something with (in your eyes) good intentions doesn't mean that what you're doing can't be terrible. Vicki wanted to release a nerve agent over the busiest railroad station in the city; effectively turning thousands of innocent people into mad, instinct-driven puppets. Oswald was all for that plan and also has killed innocents for no reason at all before (e.g. TV moderator). That definitely qualifies as evil for me.
I agree. And she knows damn well that Bruce isn't actually doing anything shady. But she still wants to take everything he has and ruin his life (was Arkham supposed to get him killed? Long-term stay? What was she looking for?) because of what his parents did. And her reasons might be understandable but what about her plan with the train station? Would she have actually murdered Selina in cold blood like that? She didn't seem to mind anything that happened at the debate.
You don't have to go into something with purely self-serving motivations to fall on the wrong side of the moral line.
Maybe we'll find something out in episode five that changes things but with what we know now I'm perfectly comfortable calling her and Oz evil. But maybe they can change that. This isn't Star Wars "forever will it dominate your destiny" stuff.
Doing something with (in your eyes) good intentions doesn't mean that what you're doing can't be terrible. Vicki wanted to release a nerve a… moregent over the busiest railroad station in the city; effectively turning thousands of innocent people into mad, instinct-driven puppets. Oswald was all for that plan and also has killed innocents for no reason at all before (e.g. TV moderator). That definitely qualifies as evil for me.
After much deliberation, I have finally decided what to do with my life! I mean this game! Is there a difference at this point?
I feel ob… moreligated to deal with the consequences of my actions, so on the day of the release, I'll play blindly courtesy of my original save. I was already planning to have a marathon of all of the episodes on Sunday, so I'll do that as well. It will be identical to my original game, excluding the ending. On Tuesday then, I will complete episode five using my original save, and dedicate the successive hour and a half to staring at the ceiling and questioning life. Last but far from least, I'll pop in the save I created on Sunday, AND MAYBE NOT FAIL AT SAVING HARVEY DENT!
This way, I'll stay true to my decisions, and reap what I sowed. Kind of. At the least, my first and most raw experience will pertain to my poor judgement calls. Ultimately, when I feel dead inside afterwards, I'll receive my second chance. It re… [view original content]
Although Telltale did release alot this year, Michonne and Minecraft really wasnt cutting it for me, they felt kinda like an off-brand of Telltale. However, the second half has been very strong with Batman, and soon Walking Dead Season 3 (Assuming its as good as we all imagine)
In terms of the amount of stuff they have done sure but Telltale's Batman has been the only good thing this year imo.
I suppose it depends on how good the first two episodes for TWD: New frontier are as well.
I really, really hope so! I'm not doubting that they're at least considering it, especially given the Joker set-up. From what I know, the Batman universe is pretty expansive, and leaves many opportunities for story-telling. It also seems like this game has its backing, which would be a pretty important factor for a company. Here's to hoping I don't get hit by a bus two to three years from now, and live to see its release!
Ah, I just finished completing episode one again. Random thoughts:
The interactions with Selina were gold in this episode, and any scene with Harvey of course upset me, given my current knowledge. I was so innocent a few months ago. Oh Vicki, continuously aiding you was a lot more awkward this time around. I forgot how majestic the advert against Hill was. I appreciate how episode one really set up and flew with the focus on both of Bruce's masks.
I found the first episode to be a pretty good introduction the first time around, and that still stands. I could recall the authentic feeling of dread and nervousness that surfaced during a few scenes, which made me a little wistful for the Good 'Ole Days. Just remembering how that reveal at the end drove me insane and filled me with so many questions... Ah, memories.
I didn't really take notice of any cool details that I wasn't already aware of, (That details thread has been very enlightening. Although, I noticed how both Vicki and Falcone said "I'll be seeing you Bruce,", and I found that kind of interesting. The line itself is innocuous enough, but given how Falcone is established as an enemy, Vicki saying it in hindsight could be interpreted as an extremely small hint towards her future role. I mean hey, who can you call friend? That line from him about trust is way too poignant right now. Anyways, with regards to that line, I may be grasping at straws. Also, during the press conference, The Thomas and Martha Wayne Memorial Hospital sign mentioned Dissociative Identity Disorder while Harvey stood nearby. Another little teaser I was ignorant towards. These are kind of too small and dull to mention in the details thread, so I might as well just say it here) but it was a good refresher nonetheless. I didn't particularly need a refresher, but I'm going to cheat later, so it's all going to a good cause. Oh, episode two was when my like turned to love! I'm so excited to replay this one!
Ah, I just finished completing episode one again. Random thoughts:
The interactions with Selina were gold in this episode, and any scene … morewith Harvey of course upset me, given my current knowledge. I was so innocent a few months ago. Oh Vicki, continuously aiding you was a lot more awkward this time around. I forgot how majestic the advert against Hill was. I appreciate how episode one really set up and flew with the focus on both of Bruce's masks.
I found the first episode to be a pretty good introduction the first time around, and that still stands. I could recall the authentic feeling of dread and nervousness that surfaced during a few scenes, which made me a little wistful for the Good 'Ole Days. Just remembering how that reveal at the end drove me insane and filled me with so many questions... Ah, memories.
I didn't really take notice of any cool details that I wasn't already aware of, (That details thread has been very enlighten… [view original content]
Wouldn't 2012 be the best, given that TWD S1 was their biggest achievement ?
I know they only had that one game that year but it was a big hit.
I guess, we will have to see how the first 2 episodes of season 3 go.
The only real question I have about episode 5 is what that key that "John Doe" gave us. If you asked the Joker about it he says it wasn't used to get out of Arkham so maybe it's something a little bigger don't know what though.
The only real question I have about episode 5 is what that key that "John Doe" gave us. If you asked the Joker about it he says it wasn't used to get out of Arkham so maybe it's something a little bigger don't know what though.
Episode Two...Episode Two...EPISODE TWO! I don't mean to spam the boards, but I just wanted to comment on certain standouts in each episode.
First off, I love the more in-depth discoveries relating to the Wayne name and Alfred's rule in the entire ordeal. Alfred is just so amazing. I'm so glad I finally got my hug with him in Episode four. The scene in the alley was well done in my opinion. It was emotional and the unique effects were placed well. Falcone getting bludgeoned by bullets still made me catch my breath.
I love the choreography in the bar brawl, and the jukebox tune complemented it perfectly. I prefer the more humanizing and vulnerable side of Selina that we see in A New Order, but they still did a great job here capturing their chemistry. This is coming from someone who has kept affairs involving Selina entirely platonic, so I'd say that means something.
Vicki and Oz? The debate scene, while already one of my favorite scenes, became even more interesting with the Vicki reveal in episode three. Vicki and Oz put on quite the show together. The fact that Oz was willing to rough up his leader/partner in crime like that was just one thing I found interesting about their interactions. Great performance, guys! Seriously, I know the outcome, but my heart was still racing.
Sorry, but I'm just doing some reiterating here to swoop into my next point about this episode. In episode one, I did began to focus alot on Harvey Dent. He was introduced as very affable and outgoing, and one who could easily be manipulated, and was indeed being pulled from many directions. I did believe that his heart truly was set on fixing Gotham and I quite enjoyed how he was willing to "play the game" and possibly make a few moral sacrifices to get into office, and as I presumed, purely with the intent to improve his city. I was getting bro vibes, which are kind of one of my weaknesses. I came in blind as to who Harvey Dent was, but I saw him as having a lot of potential in up and coming episodes. I was right, I was so right.
Now episode two? That's when the seeds of my obsession sprouted into a tree. One word: debate scene. Yes, that's two words, get over it. I'm sorry, that's rude of me. Anyways, my thoughts were proved correct when he spoke under the influence of the drug. I get that I'm a lightweight, but what he said about Gotham made me teary-eyed the first time through, alright? I was like, woah, that's so beautiful man! His "break-up" proposal may have hurt, but I understood it entirely. Hell, I even suggested he do exactly that in episode one in the café scene. (That was an amazing scene, by the way. Selina was just perfect there, and Harvey was so clueless.) He felt more... human in this episode, which obviously was a plus. His scream at the debate was just chilling. Though I do wonder what screaming alone in a recording room feels like.
If this weird, I'm sorry. I just loved how one of Penguin's goons approached Bruce and Selina and states "Penguin says allo". Every time I hear that line, I just crack up.
And most importantly, Frank. That sexy bastard. Can you be my Robin, honey? I know you aren't afraid to get your hands dirty...
I think its going to be a year in the latest. My guess is that Got season 2 and GOTG are going to be telltales next year games and Batman season 2 will be 2018-2019. Unless the have already started working on season 2 and they'll publish it next year.
I really, really hope so! I'm not doubting that they're at least considering it, especially given the Joker set-up. From what I know, the Ba… moretman universe is pretty expansive, and leaves many opportunities for story-telling. It also seems like this game has its backing, which would be a pretty important factor for a company. Here's to hoping I don't get hit by a bus two to three years from now, and live to see its release!
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Harvey doesn't think anything he did is wrong.
Depends which Harvey. Scared Harvey is convinced while not scared doubts himself.
Bruce is not Batman, Hugo Vasquez is.
Vasquez is Batman, CONFIRMED.
"Prickly_Pringle's series adapts to the choice you make. His story is tailored by what you vote."
o_O
I'm pretty sure they already did.
Doing something with (in your eyes) good intentions doesn't mean that what you're doing can't be terrible. Vicki wanted to release a nerve agent over the busiest railroad station in the city; effectively turning thousands of innocent people into mad, instinct-driven puppets. Oswald was all for that plan and also has killed innocents for no reason at all before (e.g. TV moderator). That definitely qualifies as evil for me.
"But it isn't, really. He'll do whatever he wants anyway. Suck it."
I love you guys.
Isn't oz a crime boss where he came grom?
Yep according to his records he was arrested at Essex for several great crimes.
Well they have been waiting for 3 years while we have been waiting about 3 weeks so yeah...
True but this is still coming a week before.
I agree. And she knows damn well that Bruce isn't actually doing anything shady. But she still wants to take everything he has and ruin his life (was Arkham supposed to get him killed? Long-term stay? What was she looking for?) because of what his parents did. And her reasons might be understandable but what about her plan with the train station? Would she have actually murdered Selina in cold blood like that? She didn't seem to mind anything that happened at the debate.
You don't have to go into something with purely self-serving motivations to fall on the wrong side of the moral line.
Maybe we'll find something out in episode five that changes things but with what we know now I'm perfectly comfortable calling her and Oz evil. But maybe they can change that. This isn't Star Wars "forever will it dominate your destiny" stuff.
2016 is so far the best year for Telltale ever yet.
No thanks
Obviously you missed the part where they said they'd stick to the results of the poll only to waffle. Don't waste people's effort to chip in.
There will be a season 2 don't worry.
Well they did predict it would be.
I relate to this comment on a spiritual level
In terms of the amount of stuff they have done sure but Telltale's Batman has been the only good thing this year imo.
I suppose it depends on how good the first two episodes for TWD: New frontier are as well.
Id say the same.
Although Telltale did release alot this year, Michonne and Minecraft really wasnt cutting it for me, they felt kinda like an off-brand of Telltale. However, the second half has been very strong with Batman, and soon Walking Dead Season 3 (Assuming its as good as we all imagine)
It really bothers me that The Walking Dead is getting a trailer first when Batman is closer to release.
Waiting a day is really that bad?
They've also been tweeting about it much more.
To be fair, TWD fans have waited three years, while we've waited only a few weeks.
No, it just bothers me. I'm not like "ARGH THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS" just like why?
Wait, it's been THAT long for Season 3 of the TWD?
That's understandable, TWD is their most popular series after all. After they release the TWD trailer, I bet they'll be all about Batman again.
...At least for a few days.
Two years four months. Three years since S2E1.
I really, really hope so! I'm not doubting that they're at least considering it, especially given the Joker set-up. From what I know, the Batman universe is pretty expansive, and leaves many opportunities for story-telling. It also seems like this game has its backing, which would be a pretty important factor for a company. Here's to hoping I don't get hit by a bus two to three years from now, and live to see its release!
Ah, I just finished completing episode one again. Random thoughts:
The interactions with Selina were gold in this episode, and any scene with Harvey of course upset me, given my current knowledge. I was so innocent a few months ago. Oh Vicki, continuously aiding you was a lot more awkward this time around. I forgot how majestic the advert against Hill was. I appreciate how episode one really set up and flew with the focus on both of Bruce's masks.
I found the first episode to be a pretty good introduction the first time around, and that still stands. I could recall the authentic feeling of dread and nervousness that surfaced during a few scenes, which made me a little wistful for the Good 'Ole Days. Just remembering how that reveal at the end drove me insane and filled me with so many questions... Ah, memories.
I didn't really take notice of any cool details that I wasn't already aware of, (That details thread has been very enlightening. Although, I noticed how both Vicki and Falcone said "I'll be seeing you Bruce,", and I found that kind of interesting. The line itself is innocuous enough, but given how Falcone is established as an enemy, Vicki saying it in hindsight could be interpreted as an extremely small hint towards her future role. I mean hey, who can you call friend? That line from him about trust is way too poignant right now. Anyways, with regards to that line, I may be grasping at straws. Also, during the press conference, The Thomas and Martha Wayne Memorial Hospital sign mentioned Dissociative Identity Disorder while Harvey stood nearby. Another little teaser I was ignorant towards. These are kind of too small and dull to mention in the details thread, so I might as well just say it here) but it was a good refresher nonetheless. I didn't particularly need a refresher, but I'm going to cheat later, so it's all going to a good cause. Oh, episode two was when my like turned to love! I'm so excited to replay this one!
The good old innocent times where Bruce and Harvey were bros...
Wouldn't 2012 be the best, given that TWD S1 was their biggest achievement ?
I know they only had that one game that year but it was a big hit.
I guess, we will have to see how the first 2 episodes of season 3 go.
The only real question I have about episode 5 is what that key that "John Doe" gave us. If you asked the Joker about it he says it wasn't used to get out of Arkham so maybe it's something a little bigger don't know what though.
It was probably a social experiment.
[GIVING PRISONER FAKE KEY OUT OF ASYLUM PRISON! GONE WRONG! GONE SEXUAL! MUST WATCH! ALMOST DIED!]
Episode Two...Episode Two...EPISODE TWO! I don't mean to spam the boards, but I just wanted to comment on certain standouts in each episode.
First off, I love the more in-depth discoveries relating to the Wayne name and Alfred's rule in the entire ordeal. Alfred is just so amazing. I'm so glad I finally got my hug with him in Episode four. The scene in the alley was well done in my opinion. It was emotional and the unique effects were placed well. Falcone getting bludgeoned by bullets still made me catch my breath.
I love the choreography in the bar brawl, and the jukebox tune complemented it perfectly. I prefer the more humanizing and vulnerable side of Selina that we see in A New Order, but they still did a great job here capturing their chemistry. This is coming from someone who has kept affairs involving Selina entirely platonic, so I'd say that means something.
Vicki and Oz? The debate scene, while already one of my favorite scenes, became even more interesting with the Vicki reveal in episode three. Vicki and Oz put on quite the show together. The fact that Oz was willing to rough up his leader/partner in crime like that was just one thing I found interesting about their interactions. Great performance, guys! Seriously, I know the outcome, but my heart was still racing.
Sorry, but I'm just doing some reiterating here to swoop into my next point about this episode. In episode one, I did began to focus alot on Harvey Dent. He was introduced as very affable and outgoing, and one who could easily be manipulated, and was indeed being pulled from many directions. I did believe that his heart truly was set on fixing Gotham and I quite enjoyed how he was willing to "play the game" and possibly make a few moral sacrifices to get into office, and as I presumed, purely with the intent to improve his city. I was getting bro vibes, which are kind of one of my weaknesses. I came in blind as to who Harvey Dent was, but I saw him as having a lot of potential in up and coming episodes. I was right, I was so right.
Now episode two? That's when the seeds of my obsession sprouted into a tree. One word: debate scene. Yes, that's two words, get over it. I'm sorry, that's rude of me. Anyways, my thoughts were proved correct when he spoke under the influence of the drug. I get that I'm a lightweight, but what he said about Gotham made me teary-eyed the first time through, alright? I was like, woah, that's so beautiful man! His "break-up" proposal may have hurt, but I understood it entirely. Hell, I even suggested he do exactly that in episode one in the café scene. (That was an amazing scene, by the way. Selina was just perfect there, and Harvey was so clueless.) He felt more... human in this episode, which obviously was a plus. His scream at the debate was just chilling. Though I do wonder what screaming alone in a recording room feels like.
If this weird, I'm sorry. I just loved how one of Penguin's goons approached Bruce and Selina and states "Penguin says allo". Every time I hear that line, I just crack up.
And most importantly, Frank. That sexy bastard. Can you be my Robin, honey? I know you aren't afraid to get your hands dirty...
I think its going to be a year in the latest. My guess is that Got season 2 and GOTG are going to be telltales next year games and Batman season 2 will be 2018-2019. Unless the have already started working on season 2 and they'll publish it next year.
All folks looking for news of a trailer should stay tuned to Telltale's social accounts today...
[vanishes into the night]
No way.... TWD S3 trailer AND Batman E5 trailer on the same day? ! You're trying to give your fans a heart attack, aren't you?
NEWS of a trailer. News being important word here :P