I do think the way the game was marketed, it seemed like Clem and Javier would be co-protagonists (at least at first). Personally, I think there's value to be had in a previous protagonist becoming an important supporting character like in Metal Gear Solid 2, but it becomes iffy with characters you select dialogue with that are more under your control and can be very different from how you may have played them.
She should of been, but now at this point, it shouldn't switch back to Clementine until Season 4.
I want Javier and Clementine to be the main survivors of this Season.
Think about it. Javier will lose a lot this Season, more than he ever will lose. This will put him on a similar story as Clementine is. Now that Mariana is dead, Clementine will be his daughterly figure, but I see the two becoming a brother and sister team. So, since both can relate, and giving both survive this Season, we could switch back to Clementine and keep Javier as the main protaganist next to Clementine and get to actually meet his character without the choices affecting him (Though I'd hope our Season 3 choices would affect our Season 4 Javier if he wasn't playable).
I think Clementine being the protagonist was part of why Season 2 was much weaker than Season 1. A child character just not make for a good protagonist in a zombie apocalypse setting. All the adults around Clementine in Season 2 either seemed irresponsible or incompetent, because they were relying on a child to make decisions for them or solve their problems. Christa or one of the 100 Days characters would have been a better protagonist for Season 2.
Anyone who thinks a Walking Dead game can't be good without Clementine as the protagonist, needs to go back and play Season 1 ASAP.
I think I understand that in every TWD games Telltale makes (Including Michonne Mini Series), it feels like we're always gonna play a different character, from their point of views. Though just like Rick is the main character in the TV series and comic series, I strongly believe Clementine should've been the main protagonist on the third season. I would've like to see more on how she'd raise Alvin Jr, depending on the endings from Season 2.
I would definitely prefer Clementine being the only playable protagonist this season, but it's setup to not allow that now, but I'm fine with playing Javier this one but would like to switch back to Clem in season 4, hopefully with Javier and Clem as a brother/sister relationship, much like Lee's father/daughter type, or even Kenny's uncle role it felt like. I hope they make Javier a flagpole character as he is interesting and this series should stop killing off everyone each season once in a while.
I'm not really interested in Javi, I'd prefer his story to be a mini series like Michone's or something like that, cuz the main walking dead story should be about Clem in the first place, like it always was, just like the tv show takes Rick as a main focus
Players before season 3 were like "omg can't wait to find out what happens to Clem and AJ, what happens to Kenny/Jane, how would she handle the situation after all what happened , etc"
And Telltale was like "how about we cut all the excitement and piss off our fans by starting new story with this guy called Javi and his sister in law who wants to get laid, and his niece and nephew who is always whining like how he wanted to stay at the junkyard and never thought about any danger like place owners coming back or the walkers herd that is coming, and he literally don't know how to use a gun, pretty realistic for survivors who made it for 4 years huh?
And oh almost forgot, don't worry our loyal fan we are gonna give you the character you actually care about and the character this series is all about from season 1, in a just 2-5 minutes flashback"
like wtf Telltale? This is really pisses me off.
With that being said, if they already planned to make the story about Javi this season i think it's hard to change now, but they STILL can give Clem more playtime and importance in the story.
And in season 4, they switch back to Clem, and if Javi made it alive untill season 4, i maybe wouldn't mind him as a side character (something similar to Kenny and Jane) and being like her brother or a really good friend for her, because now they know each other for a while u know.
It definitely seemed that way until the VGAs. Though I'm not sure MGS2 is a good thing to bring up considering Raidens reception, that got so bad that even when Snake wasn't the main character, you played as someone who looked and sounded exactly like him for the next 10 years lol.
On a more positive note, they handled Clem kinda poorly because of the nature of the games, but being able to make choices for the character has also made it easier to connect with Javier. Needs more Clem, tho.
I do think the way the game was marketed, it seemed like Clem and Javier would be co-protagonists (at least at first). Personally, I think t… morehere's value to be had in a previous protagonist becoming an important supporting character like in Metal Gear Solid 2, but it becomes iffy with characters you select dialogue with that are more under your control and can be very different from how you may have played them.
I'm perfectly fine that Clem isn't a real playable character. However the game was also highly advertised that we would play as a Clem almost 50 50 like Rhys and Fiona. However that wasn't true. I would honestly be fine playing as Javier full time if Clem felt like she was still important to the story though, which she doesn't.
At the beggining I saw Javi the same way as Nick: an incompetent whiny bitch.
But as time passed (Not much, though. Huh, Telltale.) I started to like Javi more: but I still didn't feel right. It was like when I played Dead Space 3, it felt... Different. More modern. "Out of touch", but then oh fuck, then Clem showed up and shit hit the fan. It rustled my emotions like all the other games, I screamed of GODDAMN BLOODTHIRST and wanted to kill all the bitch-ass motherfuckers who dared to touch Javi's family or Clem (Which by the way she is a badass. But I think that Telltale didn't have in count our previous decisions, Clem is always the same no matter what.), it was nice.
The point is: When I play as Javi I don't feel like I AM Javi, I feel like me, I feel like I'm the one taking decisions. When I was with Lee, or Clem I felt I was in THEIR skin. But now it just feels like it's me the one who's out there, in the middle of gunfires and smoke, dealing with walkers and killing those motherfuckers from The New Frontier.
I don't know any of the new characters. They are not deep anymore. When I killed the black guy in the train... Sure, it didn't feel good, but I didn't care. I wanted to protect Clem. Javi's family was closer as well, but it's not the same... It's not as DEEP. But that will change as time passes of course. It's like Telltale isn't that much into TWD anymore, it feels like it's becoming a little bit commercial and cliche. I hope I'm mistaken. It's still a good game anyways. A lil' bit short. But a good game. And it will get longer.
After playing the first two episodes of ANF, yeah she should have been the main protagonist imo. We have so little control over this character that I don't know why they even bother with putting Clementine in the story in the first place. And I'm not a fan of Javier and his quest to save Kate plot. I think it would have stayed more interesting if they stuck with Clementine.
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Hell. Yes!
I do think the way the game was marketed, it seemed like Clem and Javier would be co-protagonists (at least at first). Personally, I think there's value to be had in a previous protagonist becoming an important supporting character like in Metal Gear Solid 2, but it becomes iffy with characters you select dialogue with that are more under your control and can be very different from how you may have played them.
She should of been, but now at this point, it shouldn't switch back to Clementine until Season 4.
I want Javier and Clementine to be the main survivors of this Season.
Think about it. Javier will lose a lot this Season, more than he ever will lose. This will put him on a similar story as Clementine is. Now that Mariana is dead, Clementine will be his daughterly figure, but I see the two becoming a brother and sister team. So, since both can relate, and giving both survive this Season, we could switch back to Clementine and keep Javier as the main protaganist next to Clementine and get to actually meet his character without the choices affecting him (Though I'd hope our Season 3 choices would affect our Season 4 Javier if he wasn't playable).
I disagree.
I think Clementine being the protagonist was part of why Season 2 was much weaker than Season 1. A child character just not make for a good protagonist in a zombie apocalypse setting. All the adults around Clementine in Season 2 either seemed irresponsible or incompetent, because they were relying on a child to make decisions for them or solve their problems. Christa or one of the 100 Days characters would have been a better protagonist for Season 2.
Anyone who thinks a Walking Dead game can't be good without Clementine as the protagonist, needs to go back and play Season 1 ASAP.
She is. She's just not the playable character and isn't always on screen.
Well duh.
Im not liking this new guy at all.
I think I understand that in every TWD games Telltale makes (Including Michonne Mini Series), it feels like we're always gonna play a different character, from their point of views. Though just like Rick is the main character in the TV series and comic series, I strongly believe Clementine should've been the main protagonist on the third season. I would've like to see more on how she'd raise Alvin Jr, depending on the endings from Season 2.
i agree
I would definitely prefer Clementine being the only playable protagonist this season, but it's setup to not allow that now, but I'm fine with playing Javier this one but would like to switch back to Clem in season 4, hopefully with Javier and Clem as a brother/sister relationship, much like Lee's father/daughter type, or even Kenny's uncle role it felt like. I hope they make Javier a flagpole character as he is interesting and this series should stop killing off everyone each season once in a while.
I wish if it was 50\50 between javier and clem like tales from the borderlands
Yeah.
I'm not really interested in Javi, I'd prefer his story to be a mini series like Michone's or something like that, cuz the main walking dead story should be about Clem in the first place, like it always was, just like the tv show takes Rick as a main focus
Players before season 3 were like "omg can't wait to find out what happens to Clem and AJ, what happens to Kenny/Jane, how would she handle the situation after all what happened , etc"
And Telltale was like "how about we cut all the excitement and piss off our fans by starting new story with this guy called Javi and his sister in law who wants to get laid, and his niece and nephew who is always whining like how he wanted to stay at the junkyard and never thought about any danger like place owners coming back or the walkers herd that is coming, and he literally don't know how to use a gun, pretty realistic for survivors who made it for 4 years huh?
And oh almost forgot, don't worry our loyal fan we are gonna give you the character you actually care about and the character this series is all about from season 1, in a just 2-5 minutes flashback"
like wtf Telltale? This is really pisses me off.
With that being said, if they already planned to make the story about Javi this season i think it's hard to change now, but they STILL can give Clem more playtime and importance in the story.
And in season 4, they switch back to Clem, and if Javi made it alive untill season 4, i maybe wouldn't mind him as a side character (something similar to Kenny and Jane) and being like her brother or a really good friend for her, because now they know each other for a while u know.
NO! I don't want second season to return. I want season one!
It definitely seemed that way until the VGAs. Though I'm not sure MGS2 is a good thing to bring up considering Raidens reception, that got so bad that even when Snake wasn't the main character, you played as someone who looked and sounded exactly like him for the next 10 years lol.
On a more positive note, they handled Clem kinda poorly because of the nature of the games, but being able to make choices for the character has also made it easier to connect with Javier. Needs more Clem, tho.
naah
I like change. So, no.
What I wished is make both Javier and Clem playable at the same time just like Rhys and Fiona from Tales from the Borderlands
I'm perfectly fine that Clem isn't a real playable character. However the game was also highly advertised that we would play as a Clem almost 50 50 like Rhys and Fiona. However that wasn't true. I would honestly be fine playing as Javier full time if Clem felt like she was still important to the story though, which she doesn't.
It's part of what ruined season 2 IMO, so no.
It doesn't feel right for me to play as Javi.
At the beggining I saw Javi the same way as Nick: an incompetent whiny bitch.
But as time passed (Not much, though. Huh, Telltale.) I started to like Javi more: but I still didn't feel right. It was like when I played Dead Space 3, it felt... Different. More modern. "Out of touch", but then oh fuck, then Clem showed up and shit hit the fan. It rustled my emotions like all the other games, I screamed of GODDAMN BLOODTHIRST and wanted to kill all the bitch-ass motherfuckers who dared to touch Javi's family or Clem (Which by the way she is a badass. But I think that Telltale didn't have in count our previous decisions, Clem is always the same no matter what.), it was nice.
The point is: When I play as Javi I don't feel like I AM Javi, I feel like me, I feel like I'm the one taking decisions. When I was with Lee, or Clem I felt I was in THEIR skin. But now it just feels like it's me the one who's out there, in the middle of gunfires and smoke, dealing with walkers and killing those motherfuckers from The New Frontier.
I don't know any of the new characters. They are not deep anymore. When I killed the black guy in the train... Sure, it didn't feel good, but I didn't care. I wanted to protect Clem. Javi's family was closer as well, but it's not the same... It's not as DEEP. But that will change as time passes of course. It's like Telltale isn't that much into TWD anymore, it feels like it's becoming a little bit commercial and cliche. I hope I'm mistaken. It's still a good game anyways. A lil' bit short. But a good game. And it will get longer.
After playing the first two episodes of ANF, yeah she should have been the main protagonist imo. We have so little control over this character that I don't know why they even bother with putting Clementine in the story in the first place. And I'm not a fan of Javier and his quest to save Kate plot. I think it would have stayed more interesting if they stuck with Clementine.