No but you stated soon after the story should garnish the same amount of publicity as though a Muslim did it.
I explained above why we do so with Muslims. There is an intention behind it despite the media using it for their own gain.
After all the virtue signaling on social media the left probably are glad this happened. A white male killed a bunch of muslims, that finally checks pretty much every bullet point on their narrative.
I'm just saying. Toddlers don't accidentally shoot people in the uk.
If Trump is talking about what is a danger to his country then his f… moreirst thought should be about what is killing the most innocents - I don't think that's controversial.
Maybe that takes the form of better gun education, maybe it takes the form of better gun control. But he's hasn't, I believe, said anything on that front, so I think it's still a valid point.
After all the virtue signaling on social media the left probably are glad this happened. A white male killed a bunch of muslims, that finally checks pretty much every bullet point on their narrative.
Most people would say it was a muslim terror attack.
If you seriously think that I, a white person, am trying to suggest that white peopl… moree are all terrorists or more likely to be...girl. I said its a white crime because this person was a white person racist to non-white people as all research has shown. Maybe I should have said white supremacist. But this person believes that non-whites are inferior. I'm not gonna hide that way.
Counting fetuses as human deaths and then they break out the accidental gun deaths and put them in a category that doesnt mention guns. This couldn't possibly be from some right wing source could it?
Actually the number one cause of death in the United States is technically abortion. Next is heart disease and cancer.
Murder by gun is way down on the list.
This is only one source though.
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You wanted to "educate" people. I am educated. I know about the real danger.
Please refrain from hate speech, which includes implied hate speech and generalizations.
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This wasn't racism (Muslim/Islam isn't a race), it was islamophobia/bigotry; a hate crime, nonetheless, and I hope the families afflicted get the justice they so well deserve. This was horrible, and it is truly sickening, disgusting, and inhumane. Words can't describe how awful this act of terrorism was.
The statistics are gathered from the FBI and the CDC.
The list is, however, three years old. The numbers could have varied then.
And an abortion can easily lead to a death. Even if you're pro-choice, it'd be foolish to state that the child inside the womb isn't at some point alive during the process. It's not as though the unborn child is a fetus throughout the whole developmental process, or that it is somehow dead and when the child is born it's magically alive. I'm pretty sure the abortion rate is far greater as well so it must be counting the point where the child is considered alive. In case you were wondering.
Life and humanity are two things an unborn child has. The one thing it doesn't have yet is personhood.
Counting fetuses as human deaths and then they break out the accidental gun deaths and put them in a category that doesnt mention guns. This couldn't possibly be from some right wing source could it?
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You wanted to "educate" people. I am educated. I know about the real danger.
Please refrain from hate speech, wh… moreich includes implied hate speech and generalizations.
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Yes but my comment was that they intentionally made the gun category very narrow to make sure it ended up further down the list. The number of gun related deaths was roughly 6 times higher during that period.
I just wonder why that list does not include all the lives we end so we can keep eating burgers? Because vegetables is a step too far to preserve those lives.
The statistics are gathered from the FBI and the CDC.
The list is, however, three years old. The numbers could have varied then.
And … morean abortion can easily lead to a death. Even if you're pro-choice, it'd be foolish to state that the child inside the womb isn't at some point alive during the process. It's not as though the unborn child is a fetus throughout the whole developmental process, or that it is somehow dead and when the child is born it's magically alive. I'm pretty sure the abortion rate is far greater as well so it must be counting the point where the child is considered alive. In case you were wondering.
Life and humanity are two things an unborn child has. The one thing it doesn't have yet is personhood.
You believe animal lives have inherent value like human lives?
And correct, but the FBI site doesn't lie.
It doesn't sound too bad honestly. 5,000 is really bad for gun deaths. Think about it; how often do you hear about gun related cases and deaths? compare that to the common situation of drunk driving, smoking, or illnesses. People committing crimes is far more unpredictable and unstable than disease.
Yes but my comment was that they intentionally made the gun category very narrow to make sure it ended up further down the list. The number … moreof gun related deaths was roughly 6 times higher during that period.
I just wonder why that list does not include all the lives we end so we can keep eating burgers? Because vegetables is a step too far to preserve those lives.
Well, sadly, you're not completely wrong. There are certain groups that foam at the mouth when something like this happens. They'll say they don't want things like this to happen (and that's undoubtedly true), but they do like having more examples to push their narrative.
After all the virtue signaling on social media the left probably are glad this happened. A white male killed a bunch of muslims, that finally checks pretty much every bullet point on their narrative.
You believe animal lives have inherent value like human lives?
And correct, but the FBI site doesn't lie.
It doesn't sound too bad hon… moreestly. 5,000 is really bad for gun deaths. Think about it; how often do you hear about gun related cases and deaths? compare that to the common situation of drunk driving, smoking, or illnesses. People committing crimes is far more unpredictable and unstable than disease.
You haven't shown anything otherwise to show that these statistics is dishonest. I'd be happy to see otherwise so I can retract the legitimacy of this list.
The number can be accurate and it can still be a dishonest representation of the problem.
If the issue of guns is discussed and you intentionally present a number that does not reflect the extent of the problem, then that is dishonest.
After all the virtue signaling on social media the left probably are glad this happened. A white male killed a bunch of muslims, that finally checks pretty much every bullet point on their narrative.
According to the article linked by the OP, the police are still working on figuring out the motive and I would like to hear some more details about this guy's background. But I will say this: violence is only acceptable to me when it is in self-defense. All other motives for violence, including political motives, are unacceptable to me. Can't get your way by actually facing the other side and putting your argument forward? Then walk away. If you have to descend into violence to get your way, then I have to doubt if you actually should get your way.
All I wanted to say - organised islamic terrorism is a real threat today. Uncontrolled bringing thousands of people from different culture region is also a threat, causes social unrests. It's a fact. Millions of people are talking about it.
That's the "hate speech" Blind Sniper is fightning with.
no offense, but you're seriously branding that hate speech?
I am not sure I understand exactly where this is justified. All he was saying is that he is an educated person about the issue.
But I'm autistic so I may not get it.
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You don't think there was an intention behind these murders, despite all evidence showing it was racially and politically motivated?
After all the virtue signaling on social media the left probably are glad this happened. A white male killed a bunch of muslims, that finally checks pretty much every bullet point on their narrative.
Actually the number one cause of death in the United States is technically abortion. Next is heart disease and cancer.
Murder by gun is way down on the list.
This is only one source though.
Please re-read what I stated.
Clarify: There is an intention behind investigating Muslim attacks and murders.
Good! I'm happy you do not intend to shy away from mentioning his racist & bigoted beliefs.
Counting fetuses as human deaths and then they break out the accidental gun deaths and put them in a category that doesnt mention guns. This couldn't possibly be from some right wing source could it?
Please refrain from hate speech, which includes implied hate speech and generalizations.
This wasn't racism (Muslim/Islam isn't a race), it was islamophobia/bigotry; a hate crime, nonetheless, and I hope the families afflicted get the justice they so well deserve. This was horrible, and it is truly sickening, disgusting, and inhumane. Words can't describe how awful this act of terrorism was.
The statistics are gathered from the FBI and the CDC.
The list is, however, three years old. The numbers could have varied then.
And an abortion can easily lead to a death. Even if you're pro-choice, it'd be foolish to state that the child inside the womb isn't at some point alive during the process. It's not as though the unborn child is a fetus throughout the whole developmental process, or that it is somehow dead and when the child is born it's magically alive. I'm pretty sure the abortion rate is far greater as well so it must be counting the point where the child is considered alive. In case you were wondering.
Life and humanity are two things an unborn child has. The one thing it doesn't have yet is personhood.
no offense, but you're seriously branding that hate speech?
I am not sure I understand exactly where this is justified. All he was saying is that he is an educated person about the issue.
But I'm autistic so I may not get it.
Yes but my comment was that they intentionally made the gun category very narrow to make sure it ended up further down the list. The number of gun related deaths was roughly 6 times higher during that period.
I just wonder why that list does not include all the lives we end so we can keep eating burgers? Because vegetables is a step too far to preserve those lives.
You believe animal lives have inherent value like human lives?
And correct, but the FBI site doesn't lie.
It doesn't sound too bad honestly. 5,000 is really bad for gun deaths. Think about it; how often do you hear about gun related cases and deaths? compare that to the common situation of drunk driving, smoking, or illnesses. People committing crimes is far more unpredictable and unstable than disease.
Well, sadly, you're not completely wrong. There are certain groups that foam at the mouth when something like this happens. They'll say they don't want things like this to happen (and that's undoubtedly true), but they do like having more examples to push their narrative.
Fuck yuh Turks.
The number can be accurate and it can still be a dishonest representation of the problem.
If the issue of guns is discussed and you intentionally present a number that does not reflect the extent of the problem, then that is dishonest.
You haven't shown anything otherwise to show that these statistics is dishonest. I'd be happy to see otherwise so I can retract the legitimacy of this list.
Such a sick way of reasoning!XD You talk like there aren't tons of people that use the "usual terrorists attacks" as an excuse for their hate speech!
According to the article linked by the OP, the police are still working on figuring out the motive and I would like to hear some more details about this guy's background. But I will say this: violence is only acceptable to me when it is in self-defense. All other motives for violence, including political motives, are unacceptable to me. Can't get your way by actually facing the other side and putting your argument forward? Then walk away. If you have to descend into violence to get your way, then I have to doubt if you actually should get your way.
This thread took a wrong turn at Albuquerque.
All I wanted to say - organised islamic terrorism is a real threat today. Uncontrolled bringing thousands of people from different culture region is also a threat, causes social unrests. It's a fact. Millions of people are talking about it.
That's the "hate speech" Blind Sniper is fightning with.