Clementine killing...

Anybody else try letting Clem decide what to do with Dr. Lingard? He tells her where AJ is before she injects him, then she needlessly kills him anyway. I know it was a deal and all, but that was still fucked up. Then she friggin lunges at him if you decide not to keep him from turning. What do you think about this? It was out of character with the way I played her.

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  • Interesting fact. Clementine makes the same decision she does at the end of S1E5 if Lee stays silent. If she shoots Lee then she will also kill Lingard. If not then she hesitates and in the end leaves Lingard alive.

  • But I had her leave lee. She has actually never killed anyone in my game until now.

    Interesting fact. Clementine makes the same decision she does at the end of S1E5 if Lee stays silent. If she shoots Lee then she will also kill Lingard. If not then she hesitates and in the end leaves Lingard alive.

  • Oh that's pretty cool. I should have let Clem do it then because I left Lee. But when I left Lingard Clem got mad there probably wouldn't be a conflict in my game if it happened.

    Interesting fact. Clementine makes the same decision she does at the end of S1E5 if Lee stays silent. If she shoots Lee then she will also kill Lingard. If not then she hesitates and in the end leaves Lingard alive.

  • You have to stay silent with Lee to see what decision Clementine makes then. I just seen this in a silent playthrough. But i still don't know what triggers Clementine's decision in Season 1.

    But I had her leave lee. She has actually never killed anyone in my game until now.

  • I knew that, but it's possible for her to spare lingard? She shouldn't have killed him if the lee decision had a factor in that.

    You have to stay silent with Lee to see what decision Clementine makes then. I just seen this in a silent playthrough. But i still don't know what triggers Clementine's decision in Season 1.

  • Anybody know of a clip on youtube or something where she spares him? I'd appreciate it if you would let me know.

  • Do you have a clip of where she kills him?

    Anybody know of a clip on youtube or something where she spares him? I'd appreciate it if you would let me know.

  • Yes, she spares him.

    I knew that, but it's possible for her to spare lingard? She shouldn't have killed him if the lee decision had a factor in that.

  • I'm pretty sure Clem has killed multiple people in your game. In Episode 1 she shoots Eli and kills the New Frontier in the shootout, all of which are undeterminant. That may have been her first determinate kill for you, though

    I knew that, but it's possible for her to spare lingard? She shouldn't have killed him if the lee decision had a factor in that.

  • holy shit is this confirmed?

    Interesting fact. Clementine makes the same decision she does at the end of S1E5 if Lee stays silent. If she shoots Lee then she will also kill Lingard. If not then she hesitates and in the end leaves Lingard alive.

  • Can anyone confirm that if you make Clem not shoot Lee in the story editor, Clem won't kill the doctor in episode 4, if you don't make a choice?

    I really want to know this before I start a new play through........again.

  • I opened this thread hoping it would say Gabe

  • How do you know this?

    Interesting fact. Clementine makes the same decision she does at the end of S1E5 if Lee stays silent. If she shoots Lee then she will also kill Lingard. If not then she hesitates and in the end leaves Lingard alive.

  • Well, Lingard wanted to die, I dont see the problem in killing him, it was his choice lol

  • Damn, if that's true, that is awesome, huge props to Telltale for that. I need confirmation on this, @Deltino, I need your assistance.

    Interesting fact. Clementine makes the same decision she does at the end of S1E5 if Lee stays silent. If she shoots Lee then she will also kill Lingard. If not then she hesitates and in the end leaves Lingard alive.

  • Clementine just wants more blood to make up for the lack of hers at the moment.

  • edited April 2017

    Thats cool then. What kind of choices did you make in the playthrough she spares him in? Edit: I killed the stranger, Conrad, Badger, and Max in my game. She still killed Lingard anyway.

    Yes, she spares him.

  • Not everyone agrees with assisted suicide. He can do it himself if he wants it so bad. Letting Clementine decide shows what kind of person she is now. Keep in mind she gets told where AJ is before she kills him.

    Well, Lingard wanted to die, I dont see the problem in killing him, it was his choice lol

  • No, Clem makes the same decison as the one in S1E5 only if you stay silent with Lee.

    eoinnx02 posted: »

    Can anyone confirm that if you make Clem not shoot Lee in the story editor, Clem won't kill the doctor in episode 4, if you don't make a choice? I really want to know this before I start a new play through........again.

  • He's clearly not thinking properly killing him is a shitty thing to do

    Well, Lingard wanted to die, I dont see the problem in killing him, it was his choice lol

  • Exactly, it's hard to believe how many people are ok with this.

    He's clearly not thinking properly killing him is a shitty thing to do

  • I know some people like to think Clementine is 100 percent a mature adult but she really isn't she still clearly needs parental figure imo

    Exactly, it's hard to believe how many people are ok with this.

  • So... what exactly did Lingard say about AJ, anyone cares to elaborate please?

  • I agree, 13 year olds brains aren't even fully developed yet. People like to talk about how badass she is and all that, but if the game was more realistic, she would never last in a world like that alone.

    I know some people like to think Clementine is 100 percent a mature adult but she really isn't she still clearly needs parental figure imo

  • Sure, he tells her that AJ is ok and at some farm (can't remember the name).

    fallandir posted: »

    So... what exactly did Lingard say about AJ, anyone cares to elaborate please?

  • same. my theory is that david is gonna die because of something javi does. gabe pulls a gun on javi and clem kills gabe because of it

    hesif posted: »

    I opened this thread hoping it would say Gabe

  • I'm wondering if Clem is the most incompetent VG character of all time.

    She attempts to thieve supplies from a far more capable group of people that are only meters away with a sick toddler on her person, she cries when she's on her period even though a stab victim is standing right next to her, she vindictively shoots at an ally because of their attempt to let in their brother from being devoured, she unloads a gun unknowingly into someone without the knowledge of if the gun even would discharge or not, and now we can add murdering a sad lonesome junkie doctor to that list because she has no ability to assess a situation and think responsibly through an action.

  • Yeah, if you really think about it, she's done even more damage than Ben at this point.

    I'm wondering if Clem is the most incompetent VG character of all time. She attempts to thieve supplies from a far more capable group of

  • I think more of Gabe gets Javi killed, David points a gun at Gabe, and the Clem kills David to save him.

    I don't really think Clem and Javi are close enough for her to kill Gabe for him.

    same. my theory is that david is gonna die because of something javi does. gabe pulls a gun on javi and clem kills gabe because of it

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    This is what you get for dropping Ben

    His ghost possessed Clementine, and imbued her with the inability to do anything right

    I'm wondering if Clem is the most incompetent VG character of all time. She attempts to thieve supplies from a far more capable group of

  • Even Ben unlatching a door secured by an axe, letting in swarms of walkers and running away from a defenseless child who was about to be killed by another swarm of walkers seems, at this point, like Einstein compared to Clementine.

    Deltino posted: »

    This is what you get for dropping Ben His ghost possessed Clementine, and imbued her with the inability to do anything right

  • I didn't drop him. In fact I played such a merciful and borderline saintly game it's actually kind of sickening. Clementine has become a shitbird all on her own. Your idea would explain a lot though.

    Deltino posted: »

    This is what you get for dropping Ben His ghost possessed Clementine, and imbued her with the inability to do anything right

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    Even Ben unlatching a door secured by an axe, letting in swarms of walkers

    Whoa whoa whoa there, let's not get ahead of ourselves here

    That action was the crowning king of ineptitude

    If this game was real life, Ben removing the hatchet would have been put on that golden record we launched into space, just so more advanced civilizations could see how dumb it was physically possible for a human being to be

    Even Ben unlatching a door secured by an axe, letting in swarms of walkers and running away from a defenseless child who was about to be killed by another swarm of walkers seems, at this point, like Einstein compared to Clementine.

  • I dunno man, Clem trying to sneak into a heavily guarded outpost with a sick, dying, and perpetually noise-making toddler seems very high up there.

    At least we can chalk Ben's ineptitude up to him being incredibly inexperienced at the time, but a survivor of 4 years? I don't think so.

    Deltino posted: »

    Even Ben unlatching a door secured by an axe, letting in swarms of walkers Whoa whoa whoa there, let's not get ahead of ourselves he

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    I'm sorry, but if there is one scene I will never, ever, ever defend in this game, it's Ben and that fucking hatchet

    Ever since the first time I played that episode, over 4 years ago, I hated it

    For me, it holds the crown as the stupidest moment in the entire game. But you know, mileage may vary and all that, right?

    I dunno man, Clem trying to sneak into a heavily guarded outpost with a sick, dying, and perpetually noise-making toddler seems very high up

  • I can't remember the exact name but he says he's at the something ranch a few miles away from here.

    fallandir posted: »

    So... what exactly did Lingard say about AJ, anyone cares to elaborate please?

  • I wouldn't fully lose hope for Clementine. She's strayed from her path a little but that flashback with Ava proves to me that she isn't too far gone just yet.

  • I've pretty much already lost hope for her. She was the players moral compass, and now she's the opposite. This is the direction Telltale has decided to take for her character, and that's just the way it's gonna go unfortunately.

    AgentZ46 posted: »

    I wouldn't fully lose hope for Clementine. She's strayed from her path a little but that flashback with Ava proves to me that she isn't too far gone just yet.

  • Maybe you're already aware of this but Telltale lets you as Javi disapprove of Clem's actions for a reason.

    I've pretty much already lost hope for her. She was the players moral compass, and now she's the opposite. This is the direction Telltale has decided to take for her character, and that's just the way it's gonna go unfortunately.

  • What happens with story generator?

    No, Clem makes the same decison as the one in S1E5 only if you stay silent with Lee.

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