The funny thing about that is, according to the AMA, they put quite a bit of effort into dealing with the two because they didn't want them to see like they have plot armor.
Melissa Hutchison mentions HER Clem being 100% team Kenny in this article. I think about halfway down the page is where she talks about how … moreawesome Gavin Hammond is.. then comes her 100% team Kenny comment from Clementine herself after playing the games.
She had just become a determinant character and she dies not long after, in the same episode no less.
Despite Bonnie telling her to move inside, she stood still and no one tried to get her inside.
Wood debris managed to magically appear on top of her legs, rendering her immobile.
Only Jane can actually try to save her, everyone else just watches like shitheads.
Becoming Sarah's friend and teaching her how to shoot a gun ended up having very little impact on her and Clementine.
Her death is only mentioned again when it's convenient, people pretty much forget about her after she dies on the observation deck.
Her second death was so pointless, if TTG really wanted to kill her off that badly, they could've had her get shot by the Russian group in episode 5, at least then the gun fight would've been more realistic.
I see Jane's death wasn't there. But I mean, her death is always a good thing, AM I RIGHT!??!??!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
I AM SO FUNNY!!!!
I saw right through Jane in my first playthrough. After Kenny's sacrifices for Clem among other losses. Taking being beaten blind litterally for Clem and a thank you bullet to the chest in return seemed a bit sad..
Its not the fact that he dies off-screen that annoys me, its just that when they find him (Javi and Kate playthrough), they both treat him like a piece of crap. Not a single tear was shed for David. That's your brother man! The line "Oh, my god. Poor David!" along with both of their awkward sighs just made the scene very comical and silly.
Despite Bonnie telling her to move inside, she stood still and no one tried to get her inside.
To be fair, Bonnie said to "stay out of the way." It just so happened that not only did she not specify who's way, but there was plenty of space on the deck for Sarah to stand out of the way of everyone else's shooting.
Still a cheap way to keep her from actually doing anything, though.
Wood debris managed to magically appear on top of her legs, rendering her immobile.
That is definitely bullshit, given that the deck collapse under her and she and Jane both start to fall after it does as well as after the smoke starts clearing.
Becoming Sarah's friend and teaching her how to shoot a gun ended up having very little impact on her and Clementine.
Yeah, the story plays out exactly the same way regardless of your relationship with her--including her calling Clementine specifically when the herd show up.
Her death is only mentioned again when it's convenient, people pretty much forget about her after she dies on the observation deck.
Pretty much.
It's pretty telling that Jane(aka the person who wanted her dead even up to the point where she's asked to go down and help her) is the only person to mention her in the next scene instead of Clementine(her determinate friend, fellow youth, and the player character), Luke(her dad's friend and the de facto leader with a Hero Complex), and Kenny(a former family man).
And even then, no one really attempts to talk to Clementine about how she feels about it.
Her second death was so pointless, if TTG really wanted to kill her off that badly, they could've had her get shot by the Russian group in episode 5, at least then the gun fight would've been more realistic.
Yeah, seriously. It doesn't help that they literally have Kenny be the one to shoot Rebecca in both alternatives if Clementine doesn't choose to do so and the credits song that plays seconds afterwards is pretty clearly about her.
Sarah. Her second death was utterly ridiculous:
* She had just become a determinant character and she dies not long after, in the same … moreepisode no less.
* Despite Bonnie telling her to move inside, she stood still and no one tried to get her inside.
* Wood debris managed to magically appear on top of her legs, rendering her immobile.
* Only Jane can actually try to save her, everyone else just watches like shitheads.
* Becoming Sarah's friend and teaching her how to shoot a gun ended up having very little impact on her and Clementine.
* Her death is only mentioned again when it's convenient, people pretty much forget about her after she dies on the observation deck.
Her second death was so pointless, if TTG really wanted to kill her off that badly, they could've had her get shot by the Russian group in episode 5, at least then the gun fight would've been more realistic.
David (if he dies off-screen)
Its not the fact that he dies off-screen that annoys me, its just that when they find him (Javi and Ka… morete playthrough), they both treat him like a piece of crap. Not a single tear was shed for David. That's your brother man! The line "Oh, my god. Poor David!" along with both of their awkward sighs just made the scene very comical and silly.
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I was honestly expecting Hector to appear in a flashback or at least shown him getting put down since it would be interesting to see their reactions to a reanimation of a living member with them but nope
Edith, Jane (Season 3), Kenny (Season 3), Ava (Episode 5), David García, Hector, Sarah (2nd death), Reggie, Nick (2nd death), Francine, Lonnie and Stephanie.
I was honestly expecting Hector to appear in a flashback or at least shown him getting put down since it would be interesting to see their reactions to a reanimation of a living member with them but nope
The only person who remembered him enough to want to go looking for him was Lee. Besides Lee it seemed Chuck didn't speak very much to the rest of the group and was only known for like half a day so that could contribute to why mostly everyone forgot him. But Clementine ought to had mentioned him too since he saved her life when Ben ditched her for the walkers.
The only person who remembered him enough to want to go looking for him was Lee. Besides Lee it seemed Chuck didn't speak very much to the r… moreest of the group and was only known for like half a day so that could contribute to why mostly everyone forgot him. But Clementine ought to had mentioned him too since he saved her life when Ben ditched her for the walkers.
, I can't stand her.
Aww you don't mean that.. can you? Not with that photo of Clem in your Avatar image.
she's so ungrateful … moreand selfish,
Well season 3 Clementine kind of is. Weren't you just sticking up for Clem not too long ago? Like for getting Lee killed and something like that?
The funny thing about that is, according to the AMA, they put quite a bit of effort into dealing with the two because they didn't want them to see like they have plot armor.
I know, right? I guess they really did want all the determinate characters to matter this time, but rewrites and limited resources meant they couldn't.
He might of lived if he used his shoe as a door stopper. But then again why did he go check on Clem without his gun on him?
Had a rifle in the very first scene then ironically dies from a gun 10 minutes later..
The impression I got from the scene was something like this:
Omid and Christa are in the other bathroom, when Omid hears some commotion coming from the other one.
Thinking it's nothing serious, Omid goes to check on it without the gun, expecting Clementine to just need help with something... but instead finds her being held up by a scavenger.
Instead of risking going back to grab the gun, Omid attempts to disarm the scavenger then and there.
Alternatively, maybe he thought it'd be safer for Christa to hold onto the gun instead of him. I mean, she is pregnant and all. And Clementine had a gun of her own, right?
He might of lived if he used his shoe as a door stopper. But then again why did he go check on Clem without his gun on him?
Had a rifle in the very first scene then ironically dies from a gun 10 minutes later..
Telltale never let my Clementine be best friends with Sarah or Mariana and instead, they made an option for her to kiss this whiny little shitcock, Gabe who shouldn't have been created in the first place.
Yeah I'm thinking they all really should of carried guns and after Omid and Christa checked their own bathroom for safety there would be no more need for Christa to have a gun for a brief moment to check up on Clementine. Christa is older and stronger even while pregnant than Clem who was still as small as she was with Lee basically.
Rather taking the rifle to the source of noise and possible danger sounds like a safer plan because Clem is a kid who would need more help taking down even just one walker as small as she was at the time. I simply thought it was foolish to leave your weapon when your going to attempt to rescue your child from danger. Could of been anything and another thing is why didn't they both go check on Clem together, that way atleast one of them would have the weapon to take action if necessary.
Trigger happy Michelle was of course to blame. But I think Nobody was thinking at all in that first scene of season 2. Wished Omid and Christa stuck around to meet the Cabin group but seems like we always need uncalled for tragedy in these games that is unlikely common even for the apocalypse. Season 2 had to kill of somebody every last episode usually more than one. Yeah atleast two or more folks each episode of season 2.lol that's insane.
The impression I got from the scene was something like this:
* Omid and Christa are in the other bathroom, when Omid hears some commoti… moreon coming from the other one.
* Thinking it's nothing serious, Omid goes to check on it without the gun, expecting Clementine to just need help with something... but instead finds her being held up by a scavenger.
* Instead of risking going back to grab the gun, Omid attempts to disarm the scavenger then and there.
Alternatively, maybe he thought it'd be safer for Christa to hold onto the gun instead of him. I mean, she is pregnant and all. And Clementine had a gun of her own, right?
I know, right? I guess they really did want all the determinate characters to matter this time, but rewrites and limited resources meant they couldn't.
Kenny's destruction sucks every time I see it. Couldn't they at least made him go out with a bigger bang? Like blowing up a gas station and taking dozens of zombies to hell with him?
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Blaze of glory for Kenny could of been far more fitting. Like the ending to I am Legend. Kenny was a stache bearded boat brained legend.
Kenny's destruction sucks every time I see it. Couldn't they at least made him go out with a bigger bang? Like blowing up a gas station and taking dozens of zombies to hell with him?
Kenny's destruction sucks every time I see it. Couldn't they at least made him go out with a bigger bang? Like blowing up a gas station and taking dozens of zombies to hell with him?
I also wanted to add that the David off screen death was terrible and I noticed the majority of Youtuber a got that ending (and probably the majority of players) and most youtubers have said that’s what made the episode bad I wish most would realize there are better endings.
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The funny thing about that is, according to the AMA, they put quite a bit of effort into dealing with the two because they didn't want them to see like they have plot armor.
Thank you very much
Sarah. Her second death was utterly ridiculous:
Her second death was so pointless, if TTG really wanted to kill her off that badly, they could've had her get shot by the Russian group in episode 5, at least then the gun fight would've been more realistic.
Are you alright?
Kenny was probably the most loyal companion Clementine could hope for, who laid his life on the line time and time again.
Its not the fact that he dies off-screen that annoys me, its just that when they find him (Javi and Kate playthrough), they both treat him like a piece of crap. Not a single tear was shed for David. That's your brother man! The line "Oh, my god. Poor David!" along with both of their awkward sighs just made the scene very comical and silly.
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To be fair, Bonnie said to "stay out of the way." It just so happened that not only did she not specify who's way, but there was plenty of space on the deck for Sarah to stand out of the way of everyone else's shooting.
Still a cheap way to keep her from actually doing anything, though.
That is definitely bullshit, given that the deck collapse under her and she and Jane both start to fall after it does as well as after the smoke starts clearing.
Yeah, the story plays out exactly the same way regardless of your relationship with her--including her calling Clementine specifically when the herd show up.
Pretty much.
It's pretty telling that Jane(aka the person who wanted her dead even up to the point where she's asked to go down and help her) is the only person to mention her in the next scene instead of Clementine(her determinate friend, fellow youth, and the player character), Luke(her dad's friend and the de facto leader with a Hero Complex), and Kenny(a former family man).
And even then, no one really attempts to talk to Clementine about how she feels about it.
Yeah, seriously. It doesn't help that they literally have Kenny be the one to shoot Rebecca in both alternatives if Clementine doesn't choose to do so and the credits song that plays seconds afterwards is pretty clearly about her.
I can't choose, all of these were completely terrible in their own ways.
Kenny's death was pretty fucked up
They just act like they came across someone they barely knew. It's super weird and unrealistic. Just like you said- He's your damn brother!
I was honestly expecting Hector to appear in a flashback or at least shown him getting put down since it would be interesting to see their reactions to a reanimation of a living member with them but nope
Marianna - shock value, nothing more.
Ava and Tripp - terrible pacing, awful writing.
Kenny and Jane - just ugh.
Sarah (both deaths)
I know right! I really wish the Episode 5 flashback was about Hector, but no. Nobody even mentioned him. Poor Hector.
The only person who remembered him enough to want to go looking for him was Lee. Besides Lee it seemed Chuck didn't speak very much to the rest of the group and was only known for like half a day so that could contribute to why mostly everyone forgot him. But Clementine ought to had mentioned him too since he saved her life when Ben ditched her for the walkers.
Fucking Clementine, she's so ungrateful and selfish, I can't stand her.
Aww you don't mean that.. can you? Not with that photo of Clem in your Avatar image.
Well season 3 Clementine kind of is. Weren't you just sticking up for Clem not too long ago? Like for getting Lee killed and something like that?
I'm just joking, of course I still love Clem.
Thats odd because it's a running joke that determined characters can't escape death.
Exceptional actor thou art.
I know, right? I guess they really did want all the determinate characters to matter this time, but rewrites and limited resources meant they couldn't.
Both of Sarah's deaths (particularly the second one)
Clementine is torn up about it and then two seconds later: "ooh a baby! Sarah? What's a 'Sarah?'"
Omid's death still pisses me off to this day of how fucking stupid it was
He might of lived if he used his shoe as a door stopper. But then again why did he go check on Clem without his gun on him?
Had a rifle in the very first scene then ironically dies from a gun 10 minutes later..
Chuck, Mariana, Sarah, Nick, Omid, Ava, Tripp... too many to count.
Both of Luke's deaths.
Maybe he thought Christa and the baby were more important to have a weapon than himself
Well the first made sense I think. The second was lazy, but her first and the choice of saving her added to the story.
I guess but it's very fucking disturbing.
The impression I got from the scene was something like this:
Omid and Christa are in the other bathroom, when Omid hears some commotion coming from the other one.
Thinking it's nothing serious, Omid goes to check on it without the gun, expecting Clementine to just need help with something... but instead finds her being held up by a scavenger.
Instead of risking going back to grab the gun, Omid attempts to disarm the scavenger then and there.
Alternatively, maybe he thought it'd be safer for Christa to hold onto the gun instead of him. I mean, she is pregnant and all. And Clementine had a gun of her own, right?
Yes, so you would choose to save her. There are some who see that as the right option
Telltale never let my Clementine be best friends with Sarah or Mariana and instead, they made an option for her to kiss this whiny little shitcock, Gabe who shouldn't have been created in the first place.
Yeah I'm thinking they all really should of carried guns and after Omid and Christa checked their own bathroom for safety there would be no more need for Christa to have a gun for a brief moment to check up on Clementine. Christa is older and stronger even while pregnant than Clem who was still as small as she was with Lee basically.
Rather taking the rifle to the source of noise and possible danger sounds like a safer plan because Clem is a kid who would need more help taking down even just one walker as small as she was at the time. I simply thought it was foolish to leave your weapon when your going to attempt to rescue your child from danger. Could of been anything and another thing is why didn't they both go check on Clem together, that way atleast one of them would have the weapon to take action if necessary.
Trigger happy Michelle was of course to blame. But I think Nobody was thinking at all in that first scene of season 2. Wished Omid and Christa stuck around to meet the Cabin group but seems like we always need uncalled for tragedy in these games that is unlikely common even for the apocalypse. Season 2 had to kill of somebody every last episode usually more than one. Yeah atleast two or more folks each episode of season 2.lol that's insane.
Well it's a point and click game, I imagine these games are cheaper to make then your average video game.
Kenny's destruction sucks every time I see it. Couldn't they at least made him go out with a bigger bang? Like blowing up a gas station and taking dozens of zombies to hell with him?
Ava's death. It happened so super fast that it was unintentionally hilarious.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Blaze of glory for Kenny could of been far more fitting. Like the ending to I am Legend. Kenny was a stache bearded boat brained legend.
Honestly, I just rolled my eyes and held my tongue whenever I saw comments to this effect before the game finally came out.
I also wanted to add that the David off screen death was terrible and I noticed the majority of Youtuber a got that ending (and probably the majority of players) and most youtubers have said that’s what made the episode bad I wish most would realize there are better endings.
My Top 5 Worst Deaths:
Ava's death in Ep.5
Nick's death in Amid the Ruins
Sarah's 2nd death
Zachary's 2nd death in the mini-series
Kenny's death in New Frontier