The Choice to kill in Episode 5
With Season 2 now up and new characters popping up we are now in the discussion of possible villains to redeem, which can be discussed here, and with Harleen Quinzel being mentioned I'm really hoping we can prevent her from becoming Harley Quinn.
But with that there is one we can all agree on. John Doe will become the Joker and we will face him in episode 5. This is were we will have to think how this story will end with him. This is the one that we need to think how would this affect Batman and his supporting cast. Despite this being an alternate universe were we would have to face different kids of villains there is only one thing that remain. Out of every comic book, cartoons and other forms of media versions were Batman has to face old and new villains Batman's fight against the Joker is eternal. There is absolutely no escaping this and we all know the future of these two. We know the consequences of what will happen if we allow the Joker to live. So the to Telltale is will it grant us the option to kill the Joker?
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I think so.
Given that a lot of promotional material and a lot of things being said from the devs and VAs, the general tagline seems to be "How far will you go?"
So, they will be delving into the limits of Batman's rule in the series quite a bit. I'm sure that it'll culminate in a climax where you have the option to break that rule.
*Also given that a lot of talk between Batman and Riddler was about how Batman kept saying "I'm not like you. I can't let blood get on my hands because it keeps me human/makes me a hero/separates me from the scum like you." And Riddler kept teasing him about that rule even saying once "You don't have what it takes to be a player in this town without giving up those 'values' you hold so dear...".
So all signs point to yes.
There would have to be a WHOLE LOT of chaos within episodes 2-5 to justify an option to kill Joker because he's only really had the spotlight in this episode whereas last season was a cameo. Actually, Joker was more of a cameo in this episode as well. Batman went through hell with Harvey and didn't have that option. The reason why the question of whether or not Batman would kill Joker is so powerful is because of their history. Joker in the comics and animation has done SO MUCH to the people of Gotham, the world, Batman, and Batman's people. So I'd feel like it's too much to have Batman tempted to cross that line so soon. I'd love to be faced with that decision in season 3 or 4; of course I'm being optimistic in hoping it will go that far.
I'd prefer to have us struggle to keep Joker from going further into insanity or rage, but still keeping our moral code as Batman. Like the scene at the funeral where Joker honestly meant well by offering a card and asking for a favor, but he almost loses it whenever Bruce scolded or rejected him. At the same time we're dealing with Alfred who seems to be going through his own character arc. I just want to feel the pressure of consequences for my actions, but not so black and white like: if you choose to save person A, person B dies. Have it be a culmination of decisions and actions that decides a character's fate or position.
Well considering the latest Player's space videos by telltale, John Doe becoming Joker or not will depend on the player's choices, so he might not become Joker if you didn't "make" him one!
I thought the promotional tagline had always been "John doe is watching." Again I might be wrong because its according to their tweets. They also said "unpredictable ally or unstable menace?"
Probably going to be a Harvey situation.
Well actually according to Telltales 'Joker BTS' video. Especially wording used by Troy Baker and Anthony Ingruber (Joker's VA) the relationship will affect what TYPE of Joker he'll be. To directly quote the video: "....Through watching your actions as Bruce he's discovering what type of criminal he wants to be". The video actually ends with Ingruber talking about how exciting things will get when he becomes 'full Joker'.
I don't think we'll get the chance to kill. I kind of prefer it that way. I mean, having Batman push his limits can be equally if not more rewarding. The more people know Bruce is Batman, the more his actions will have consequences for both Batman and Bruce. If you go all rogue and really beat a guy half to death, it will have repercussions for Bruce and his relationships, especially with the new relationship simulator.
Even though we know what their future will be just like every other version in both comics and media
I play my Bruce as a nice guy both in this game and the last. As Batman, no mercy! I'll be cordial with John until he betrays me like Harvey and Oz did. I'll hurt him, but I won't kill him.
I did the same thing in season 1, but I'll still kill John
Eh, not into the idea of killing anyone anyway. I share the same opinions as Bruce. No killing. Send them to Blackgate or Arkham.
Well, I don't think killing will be an option but rather the choice to not save him.