Will John die in the end of episode 5?
The last achievement in episode 5 is called the last laugh. Do you guys think that means the death of John Doe/Joker?
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The last achievement in episode 5 is called the last laugh. Do you guys think that means the death of John Doe/Joker?
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Maybe. I think he will be in bad situation and we will get to choose to save him or not.
If Telltale is planning on doing at least one more season (and I hope they do), I think Joker may in some way 'win' by the end of S2. In that case the last laugh could mean that he is the last man laughing (as a reference to a winner). As much as I count on the happy ending by the end of Bruce's journey, I think it could be really interesting if Bruce would be the one to lose in Joker's game by the end of Ep5 and that would create a great setting for next season where stakes of the battle between Batman and Joker could be even higher.
And I believe that what I wrote above would work only with the next season on the way - it would be bold move to make our defeat towards Joker be a conclusion of S2.
Sure. Who needs Joker anyway.
Well, he is the most populair villain in the Batman universe so many people want him to be in a possible season 3.
Nah, he's surely will be the reason of ratings dropping if they'll keep him in season 3. Just look at what happening now.
Thats an interesting interpretation of the achievement. It would be nice to see hem return as a main villain in season 3, but I would not be dissapointed if that is not the case.
Thats an interesting interpretation of the achievement. It would be nice to see hem return as a main villain in season 3, but I would not be dissapointed if that is not the case.
Are ratings dropping because of John Doe?
Sure!
The only people who have had anything negative to say about S2 are just S1 players who haven't even given 2 a chance. I think TT's "ratings" are fine.
They did get rid of Riddler, so why not?
Considering he's the most popular character of the game and many people in and outside of the forums are constantly praising his character I doubt it.
A woman can hope.
It'd be a bold decision if they had no intentions of using the character again, and hardly the first time Joker has died ( both in comics and every film appearance ). Granted, it could also be a reference to an act John Doe commits prior to his apprehension.
Well, it could be we just take him down.
His story's only just starting! We can't have him be in his Joker mode for one episode and then that's it!
I think it just means that the season might end in a cliffhanger, favoring John or just John gets the last laugh on something. Another possibility would be that he is in trouble and an accident happens to create the Joker. But dying? No way
The ratings aren't dropping though.
No like many other people are saying I don't think that TellTale will kill off The Joker after one episode. We have spent the entire second season shaping John into the Joker that we want him to be and to have him be killed off after one episode, no I don't think that is a good plotline. The Joker is a character that is just as smart as Batman. John might even know that Bruce is Batman but he has no reason to go against Batman because so far he has not hurt any of his friends. His only other friend other than Bruce in The Pact is Harley the other members don't seem to trust him or think that he has any useful skills. John will be one of those characters that will allow the series to continue because his voice actor is one of the best Jokers.
I also failed to mention in my previous post that the trophy "The Last Laugh" probably refers to Joker beating Batman or causing him some emotional or psychological pain, such as killing off Alfred, killing off Selina, causing Batman to kill one of his allies or Pact member. Joker is known to bring Batman to his limits in terms of mental battle.
Or beating him at monopoly game. My Bruce will never recover from such trauma.
Hahaha! Yea or maybe force Bruce to play Clue! But in all seriousness I think Bruce will lose to Joker in some way that will affect his mental abilities.
You need to stop asking "could they do this?" and instead ask "WOULD they do this?" They've been hyping up John Doe for a season and a half. They're not gonna kill him off before or just as he's become the Joker. Not only would that be stupid, but it would also mean half of this season was a gigantic waste of time.
I don't think he will die, the last achievement hints at him surviving somehow.
And probably just managing to do something before the season ends so season 3 has a start point
Seeing as how John only becomes the Joker in maybe the last 2 episodes I think he'll definitely live. You can't kill off Batman's archnemesis that soon.
Like some said I think Joker will push Batman to his limits causing him to kill one of his allies.
Someone should have said that to Tim Burton 30 years ago.
All this setup just to kill him off would just be a waste.
Do you think that Batman will really kill someone?
Oh I hope for something closer to the comics, like for example He will get close to doing it, but someone will stop Him at the last moment
Maybe get close to it but not really no.
I think Telltale will give us a choice when it comes to the kill rule.
I have my doubts about this. Do you remember in season one where Bruce and Alfred were in the alley and Alfred asks Bruce whether he would kill the people who killed his parents? If you chose the option that says yes, then instead it says that he wouldn't trust himself. So, the reply gets edited to I'd be tempted but I would not violate my principles.
That would certainly be an interesting and dramatic twist, but I don't see Telltale going that far yet. It seems like they are just getting started with this interpretation of the Joker. Looking at Telltale's tweets, you can see them teasing the idea of "Joker earning his crown as the Clown Prince of Crime", so I can foresee them sticking with him a bit longer.
As a tangent, I hope we get a third Season of Batman. I'm really liking Enemy Within and Telltale's direction with it. Season 1, I felt, relied a bit too much on plot twists, but Enemy Within is really coming into its own.
Well to be honest I think it is to early for Batman to even think about killing his enemies and the stakes aren't that high. If perhaps another character that he cared about was in danger and the only option he had was to kill them I wouldn't know what to let my Batman do. Like would you allow Harley to kill Alfred while Batman preserved his no killing rule? I don't think that my Batman would because it would be his family before himself.
That was something I actually mention before
One of the things about the Joker is that he's eternal in any version. We know what his future will be and we know what he will do. So the question is will it be worth it to keep him alive knowing what he will do? An option to kill will prevent all that, but will also have unintended consequences. Unless there's a way to prevent all that then what choice is there after knowing what he will do?
He hasn't even got to the "Joker" point yet. He's been hyped up for a season and a half. He's the most popular character(I think) at the moment.