I wonder how the final choice from episode 3 will affect the SANCTUS raid and Batman intervention. The images Telltale released show Batman confronting Bane and Freeze at the laboratory.
Do you think that will happen only if you blow your cover and if not we will be playing still as Bruce? Or something will happen earlier that will leave us in the same situation.
I am pretty skeptical about this. I guess that we could have alternative openings just like in the final episode from season one... But I highly doubt that Telltale would designate a big fight scene with two important villains only to leave it as a determinant scenario.
Me too. I really like her this season, she seems to actually care about us as much as we do about her. She was too selfish last season and let's not even talk about her last act....Yeah.
Of course she could still betray us but I'm hoping that if we supported her and showed her we care she will try to do right by us this time. I mean, some of us threw away our mission for her.
Agreed. I have faith in Telltale but I'm also slightly worried they might have John kill Catwoman just to make it edgier, -sigh- that happens to a lot of superhero girlfriends. John did seem very interested in their relationship and doesn't appear to value Selina's life so that's...uh, scary. But Catwoman is such a powerful draw towards complex decision-making in these games that I think it wouldn't be smart for Telltale to do that and it would also be predictable.
John seems to be zeroing in on all your relationships, actually- that will probably rear it's head in episode 3. He may know Bruce is Batman, Bruce was hardly subtle about leaving when the bat signal appeared. In which case, he's aware of Jim Gordon's relationship to you. He notices a few different elements in your interactions with Catwoman and doesn't like her closeness to the Riddler, was fine with her taking the fall for Bruce too. Then there's Tiffany who he knows is connected to Bruce as well, even if you don't appear to like eachother, she's still an innocent.
Characters like Selina and Tiffany are easy targets just like Alfred was. Maybe he'll actually make you choose between saving Waller & Gordon to see the extent of your morals.
And I just want more scenes with John Doe, also play a monopoly game with him before he goes nuts. =D
They won't kill Selina, people will burn TT office if they'll do that. Besides, Selina is attracting more players to the game, most of the community likes her. Killing her is simply inpractical.
What worries me is that there's a big difference in possibilities for your relationship with Selina...which means she might not be a big focus next episode because of extra animation etc.
Relationship with Bruce: Hostile (let her get beat up, hurt her to remove her from your house, let her take the fall) Neutral/Friends or Romantic (kissed once or twice, invited her to the bat cave, bruce takes the blame)
And I just want more scenes with John Doe, also play a monopoly game with him before he goes nuts. =D
They won't kill Selina, people will b… moreurn TT office if they'll do that. Besides, Selina is attracting more players to the game, most of the community likes her. Killing her is simply inpractical.
I also really want to see how Bruce and Selinas relationship turns out... its intriguing and I am looking forward to where the story goes and will end.. even though I dont believe it will end happy whatever you do
I think Telltale has done an amazing job building all these supporting characters as well, I cant think of a single one out of Gordon, Tiffany, Selina and Alfred that wouldnt devastate me if something happened to them (Alfred especially, Alfred is too precious)
Agreed. I have faith in Telltale but I'm also slightly worried they might have John kill Catwoman just to make it edgier, -sigh- that happen… mores to a lot of superhero girlfriends. John did seem very interested in their relationship and doesn't appear to value Selina's life so that's...uh, scary. But Catwoman is such a powerful draw towards complex decision-making in these games that I think it wouldn't be smart for Telltale to do that and it would also be predictable.
John seems to be zeroing in on all your relationships, actually- that will probably rear it's head in episode 3. He may know Bruce is Batman, Bruce was hardly subtle about leaving when the bat signal appeared. In which case, he's aware of Jim Gordon's relationship to you. He notices a few different elements in your interactions with Catwoman and doesn't like her closeness to the Riddler, was fine with her taking the fall for Bruce too. Then there's Tiffany who he knows is connec… [view original content]
Obviously John will finally 'find himself' and become you-know-who.
Tiffany will fully become what her father was, and possibly Robin.
John will steal the virus and threaten the entire city with it.
Alfred dies (gut punch moment)
We get the option of telling Gordon the whole truth about who he is (it's time and the way the story has been set up it might be the only way to regain his trust)
The teaser images show Harley, Bane and Freeze preparing to square off against Batman I assume. John is nowhere to be seen, so I'm guessing Bruce ditches The Pact (if he didn't give himself up) and John goes after his BFF. I'm thinking maybe this is the catalyst that sets things in motion for Bruce blowing his cover, since he left them at a crucial moment.
I think that Harley and John will leave Bane and Freeze behind to deal with Batman, breaking the Pact. After all, the images only show Bane and Freeze fighting Batman, and John and Harley seem to be in their own in other one.
The teaser images show Harley, Bane and Freeze preparing to square off against Batman I assume. John is nowhere to be seen, so I'm guessing … moreBruce ditches The Pact (if he didn't give himself up) and John goes after his BFF. I'm thinking maybe this is the catalyst that sets things in motion for Bruce blowing his cover, since he left them at a crucial moment.
How does that work if...
(Kissed twice, invited her to the bat cave, let her take the fall)
Like I did but tbf I tried to tell the pact that she was still useful.
What worries me is that there's a big difference in possibilities for your relationship with Selina...which means she might not be a big foc… moreus next episode because of extra animation etc.
Relationship with Bruce: Hostile (let her get beat up, hurt her to remove her from your house, let her take the fall) Neutral/Friends or Romantic (kissed once or twice, invited her to the bat cave, bruce takes the blame)
On the contrary, many endstates mean bigger roles. I'm expecting her to make quite an impact, good or bad depending on what you did with her.
I see no reason to be on her bad side considering our cover was never going to last.
What worries me is that there's a big difference in possibilities for your relationship with Selina...which means she might not be a big foc… moreus next episode because of extra animation etc.
Relationship with Bruce: Hostile (let her get beat up, hurt her to remove her from your house, let her take the fall) Neutral/Friends or Romantic (kissed once or twice, invited her to the bat cave, bruce takes the blame)
I think that it's pretty safe to say, that in one of the next episodes Joker is going to try to "hurt" Batman by hurting someone close to Him. I know that many of You folks, are thinking that He will hurt or even kill Selina, but this basically makes no sense if Your Bruce/Batman has no relationship with Her, and, unless on the rooftop John overheard more than He admitted, He has no idea about any connections between Selina and Batman.
And here comes my theory, what if Joker is indeed going to hurt someone, what if He is going to do that because He feels betrayed? But who will be His victim? I think that In this case, it might depend on the very choice from the 3rd episode - have You informed Selina about the GCPD, or have You ignored Her and got the laptop from the Joker.
In the 1st scenario - John's best buddy would be Bruce and He might feel betrayed by Bruce for some yet unknown reason - the victim in that case would be Selina - since John clearly knows that Bruce has some feelings for Her.
In the 2nd scenario - instead of Bruce, John may consider Batman His best friend, and Bats may also somehow Betray this strange sort of friendship [e.g. by doing anything like - fighting with Harley, imprisoning Harley, talking to Harley, looking at Harley...], which would again lead us to the part in which John wants to take His revenge, this time on Bats, and as far as we know, Joker has knowledge only about one person, that has a "relationship" with Batman and the person is - James Gordon.
So, long story short - I think that it all will depend on who has stolen the laptop, and Joker will either hurt Selina or Jim.
* Obviously John will finally 'find himself' and become you-know-who.
* Tiffany will fully become what her father was, and possibly Robin… more.
* John will steal the virus and threaten the entire city with it.
* Alfred dies (gut punch moment)
* We get the option of telling Gordon the whole truth about who he is (it's time and the way the story has been set up it might be the only way to regain his trust)
I really wanted to see a Penguin or Two-Face appearance in Season 2. Sadly I think Two-Face has a 0% chance of appearing at this point in the season, but maybe Penguin can still make a cameo somewhere
This is a really interesting theory. It makes sense and would give us a feeling that our choice from last episode really matters. Using Selina or Gordon to punish Bruce would be a move that fits Joker, this can also make this episode really emotional.
Honestly I hope that if this will turn out to be true (or close to it), Batman/Bruce would have a chance to save the 'victim'. It is good when the stakes are high for Bruce, and there is that feeling that you can't fail on this because consequences would be impossible to revert, but I do not want "anything permanent" happening to Selina nor Gordon, they are both my favorite characters next to Alfred and Bruce of course.
I think that it's pretty safe to say, that in one of the next episodes Joker is going to try to "hurt" Batman by hurting someone close to Hi… morem. I know that many of You folks, are thinking that He will hurt or even kill Selina, but this basically makes no sense if Your Bruce/Batman has no relationship with Her, and, unless on the rooftop John overheard more than He admitted, He has no idea about any connections between Selina and Batman.
And here comes my theory, what if Joker is indeed going to hurt someone, what if He is going to do that because He feels betrayed? But who will be His victim? I think that In this case, it might depend on the very choice from the 3rd episode - have You informed Selina about the GCPD, or have You ignored Her and got the laptop from the Joker.
In the 1st scenario - John's best buddy would be Bruce and He might feel betrayed by Bruce for some yet unknown reason - the victim in that case would be Selina - sin… [view original content]
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What'll happen to our relationships in episode four
I wonder how the final choice from episode 3 will affect the SANCTUS raid and Batman intervention. The images Telltale released show Batman confronting Bane and Freeze at the laboratory.
Do you think that will happen only if you blow your cover and if not we will be playing still as Bruce? Or something will happen earlier that will leave us in the same situation.
I am pretty skeptical about this. I guess that we could have alternative openings just like in the final episode from season one... But I highly doubt that Telltale would designate a big fight scene with two important villains only to leave it as a determinant scenario.
I just want more catwoman scenes TBH, I really like how they have been building her character this season
Me too. I really like her this season, she seems to actually care about us as much as we do about her. She was too selfish last season and let's not even talk about her last act....Yeah.
Of course she could still betray us but I'm hoping that if we supported her and showed her we care she will try to do right by us this time. I mean, some of us threw away our mission for her.
Agreed. I have faith in Telltale but I'm also slightly worried they might have John kill Catwoman just to make it edgier, -sigh- that happens to a lot of superhero girlfriends. John did seem very interested in their relationship and doesn't appear to value Selina's life so that's...uh, scary. But Catwoman is such a powerful draw towards complex decision-making in these games that I think it wouldn't be smart for Telltale to do that and it would also be predictable.
John seems to be zeroing in on all your relationships, actually- that will probably rear it's head in episode 3. He may know Bruce is Batman, Bruce was hardly subtle about leaving when the bat signal appeared. In which case, he's aware of Jim Gordon's relationship to you. He notices a few different elements in your interactions with Catwoman and doesn't like her closeness to the Riddler, was fine with her taking the fall for Bruce too. Then there's Tiffany who he knows is connected to Bruce as well, even if you don't appear to like eachother, she's still an innocent.
Characters like Selina and Tiffany are easy targets just like Alfred was. Maybe he'll actually make you choose between saving Waller & Gordon to see the extent of your morals.
And I just want more scenes with John Doe, also play a monopoly game with him before he goes nuts. =D
They won't kill Selina, people will burn TT office if they'll do that. Besides, Selina is attracting more players to the game, most of the community likes her. Killing her is simply inpractical.
What worries me is that there's a big difference in possibilities for your relationship with Selina...which means she might not be a big focus next episode because of extra animation etc.
Relationship with Bruce: Hostile (let her get beat up, hurt her to remove her from your house, let her take the fall) Neutral/Friends or Romantic (kissed once or twice, invited her to the bat cave, bruce takes the blame)
Interesting game choice
I also really want to see how Bruce and Selinas relationship turns out... its intriguing and I am looking forward to where the story goes and will end.. even though I dont believe it will end happy whatever you do
I think Telltale has done an amazing job building all these supporting characters as well, I cant think of a single one out of Gordon, Tiffany, Selina and Alfred that wouldnt devastate me if something happened to them (Alfred especially, Alfred is too precious)
Obviously John will finally 'find himself' and become you-know-who.
Tiffany will fully become what her father was, and possibly Robin.
John will steal the virus and threaten the entire city with it.
Alfred dies (gut punch moment)
We get the option of telling Gordon the whole truth about who he is (it's time and the way the story has been set up it might be the only way to regain his trust)
The teaser images show Harley, Bane and Freeze preparing to square off against Batman I assume. John is nowhere to be seen, so I'm guessing Bruce ditches The Pact (if he didn't give himself up) and John goes after his BFF. I'm thinking maybe this is the catalyst that sets things in motion for Bruce blowing his cover, since he left them at a crucial moment.
I think that Harley and John will leave Bane and Freeze behind to deal with Batman, breaking the Pact. After all, the images only show Bane and Freeze fighting Batman, and John and Harley seem to be in their own in other one.
How does that work if...
(Kissed twice, invited her to the bat cave, let her take the fall)
Like I did but tbf I tried to tell the pact that she was still useful.
On the contrary, many endstates mean bigger roles. I'm expecting her to make quite an impact, good or bad depending on what you did with her.
I see no reason to be on her bad side considering our cover was never going to last.
I think that it's pretty safe to say, that in one of the next episodes Joker is going to try to "hurt" Batman by hurting someone close to Him. I know that many of You folks, are thinking that He will hurt or even kill Selina, but this basically makes no sense if Your Bruce/Batman has no relationship with Her, and, unless on the rooftop John overheard more than He admitted, He has no idea about any connections between Selina and Batman.
And here comes my theory, what if Joker is indeed going to hurt someone, what if He is going to do that because He feels betrayed? But who will be His victim? I think that In this case, it might depend on the very choice from the 3rd episode - have You informed Selina about the GCPD, or have You ignored Her and got the laptop from the Joker.
In the 1st scenario - John's best buddy would be Bruce and He might feel betrayed by Bruce for some yet unknown reason - the victim in that case would be Selina - since John clearly knows that Bruce has some feelings for Her.
In the 2nd scenario - instead of Bruce, John may consider Batman His best friend, and Bats may also somehow Betray this strange sort of friendship [e.g. by doing anything like - fighting with Harley, imprisoning Harley, talking to Harley, looking at Harley...], which would again lead us to the part in which John wants to take His revenge, this time on Bats, and as far as we know, Joker has knowledge only about one person, that has a "relationship" with Batman and the person is - James Gordon.
So, long story short - I think that it all will depend on who has stolen the laptop, and Joker will either hurt Selina or Jim.
Become You-Know-Who??
Sorry. I couldn't resist. ?
Not really a prediction but just a hope.
I really wanted to see a Penguin or Two-Face appearance in Season 2. Sadly I think Two-Face has a 0% chance of appearing at this point in the season, but maybe Penguin can still make a cameo somewhere
It sounded like Penguin was sort of a mentor type for Harley while she worked at Blackgate.
Mentor type? For me it sounded like she just manipulated him to tell her all the weird shit about Bruce secret lab at Wayne Tower.
This is a really interesting theory. It makes sense and would give us a feeling that our choice from last episode really matters. Using Selina or Gordon to punish Bruce would be a move that fits Joker, this can also make this episode really emotional.
Honestly I hope that if this will turn out to be true (or close to it), Batman/Bruce would have a chance to save the 'victim'. It is good when the stakes are high for Bruce, and there is that feeling that you can't fail on this because consequences would be impossible to revert, but I do not want "anything permanent" happening to Selina nor Gordon, they are both my favorite characters next to Alfred and Bruce of course.
Agreed.