Please make the season darker

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  • Because they're trying to make sure those episodes are the best quality possible? :trollface:

    DabigRG posted: »

    No surprise as to why most of the episodes have such long gaps between each other. Because they're trying to make sure those episode

  • :lol: Dangit, how do people like you and old man dan manage have that shit on standby?

    Because they're trying to make sure those episodes are the best quality possible?

  • I took time out of my day to find a video on YouTube, without any watermark, screenshot that exact moment, upload it to Imgur, and paste the link here.

    Consider yourself special.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Dangit, how do people like you and old man dan manage have that shit on standby?

  • Ah, well that's neat.

    I just use Imgflip the handful of times I needed to this year and that generally takes 15 minutes if I'm lucky.

    I took time out of my day to find a video on YouTube, without any watermark, screenshot that exact moment, upload it to Imgur, and paste the link here. Consider yourself special.

  • Well, she was traumatized, she had never seen what the world really was and she probably had never seen death before since Carlos tried to keep her from that world. Imagine living in a bubble and being raised by thinking that everything is fine and then suddently watch your father getting his throat ripped out by walking corpses.

    If that's true, it reinforces my assertion that there was something wrong with her and apparently it was supposed to be even more obvious.

  • she had never seen what the world really was and she probably had never seen death

    Okay, not to detract too much from your explanation, but I honestly never really got that perception.

    Sarah already had a relatively good idea of what the world was like because she was on the road with the Cabin Group for at least a few weeks, had been very loosely complicit in what they had to do to escape Howe's, spent at least a year living under Carver's leadership beforehand, and most likely witnessed someone else she cared about(like her missing mom) being killed(whether it be getting shot, beaten, or outright eaten) at some point in the past, which is probably what caused her to develop PTSD in the first place. To say nothing of the deaths of George, Nick's mom, and eventually Pete himself.

    Carlos was simply trying to limit how much she was exposed to at any given time to keep her safe & calm and thus prevent her from being triggered. Kinda like Shel, but for a different reaction.

    suddently watch your father getting his throat ripped out by walking corpses.

    I don't know about that specific detail, but whatever.

    qualityrice posted: »

    Well, she was traumatized, she had never seen what the world really was and she probably had never seen death before since Carlos tried to k

  • I like EMPHASIZING certain WORDS when I TYPE. What's WRONG with THAT?
    And the first game didn't have a 15 year old girl get torn apart and then have her dead body lying below you as all the characters just ignore what just happened. Tasteless.

    You accidentally hit the caps lock at the end there. I agree, I was glad it wasn't any more violent than the first game and handled pretty much the same.

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    implied miscarriage

    never mentioned by anyone though, so not much of an impact.

    onscreen animal suffering

    that one I'll give you.

    a scene of an 11 year old forced to stitch her own arm with every agonizing step shown,

    while her screams of pain were pretty hard to sit through, it was pretty silly that we're suddenly thrown into her being that capable of stitching up a ragged wound. they throw in one lazy line "just like christa showed me." would have been nice if we had seen that. what if in season 1 Clem just learned how to shoot a gun in between episode 3 and 4. and she says "just like Lee showed me." :unamused:

    implied rape and torturing of the victim's husband

    Carver raped Alvin?! Oh my God. :anguished:

    guy gets shot in the dick

    that was played for dark humor, nobody even mentions it. like "hey jane might be a bit unstable after shooting that guy in the dick?" nope, which makes it come off as out of place and silly.

    the season had dark stuff in it.

    On paper, yeah.

    Cocoa2736 posted: »

    true, but there's still stuff like an implied miscarriage, onscreen animal suffering, a scene of an 11 year old forced to stitch her own arm

  • never mentioned by anyone though, so not much of an impact.

    that's even worse. The atmosphere is so dark a miscarriage is brushed upon in a time skip with little mention

    while her screams of pain were pretty hard to sit through, it was pretty silly that we're suddenly thrown into her being that capable of stitching up a ragged wound. they throw in one lazy line "just like christa showed me." would have been nice if we had seen that. what if in season 1 Clem just learned how to shoot a gun in between episode 3 and 4. and she says "just like Lee showed me."

    It wasn't just the act itself though it was pretty terrible to watch on it's own

    an 11 year old is nearly shot, thrown into a shed overnight with a possible risk of infection that grown adults refuse to treat immediately, and that's not to mention that an eleven year old is stitching her own arm, and few of the adults apologize for forcing her to do so.

    I think it's believable and acceptable that Christa taught her that during the time jump.

    Carver raped Alvin?! Oh my God.

    Victim's husband. Victim of rape. I'll note the confusion for the future.

    that was played for dark humor, nobody even mentions it. like "hey jane might be a bit unstable after shooting that guy in the dick?" nope, which makes it come off as out of place and silly.

    This isn't a comedy, so his pain wasn't downplayed for laughs even if it was funny. His screams were completely meant to sound grave. Can you imagine the pain of being shot in the dick? And then he gets mauled by a horde of zombies as a distraction for the protagonists. Absolutely miserable way to go.

    On paper, yeah.

    It's still dark even if you don't believe it was handled maturely, but I don't object to you thinking so

    Louche posted: »

    implied miscarriage never mentioned by anyone though, so not much of an impact. onscreen animal suffering that one I'l

  • No, it just had a girl shoot herself in the head before someone was fed to the group. Stop EMPHASIZING and put that brain to work.

    Louche posted: »

    I like EMPHASIZING certain WORDS when I TYPE. What's WRONG with THAT? And the first game didn't have a 15 year old girl get torn apart and then have her dead body lying below you as all the characters just ignore what just happened. Tasteless.

  • ...What the hell are you talkin about?

    No, it just had a girl shoot herself in the head before someone was fed to the group. Stop EMPHASIZING and put that brain to work.

  • The girl that says she's a christian, but forgets suicide is a sin?
    yeah...

    No, it just had a girl shoot herself in the head before someone was fed to the group. Stop EMPHASIZING and put that brain to work.

  • edited June 2018

    that's even worse. The atmosphere is so dark a miscarriage is brushed upon in a time skip with little mention

    Oh yeah, it's so dark, it's been sixteen months and they look just fine (in fact I'd say Christa looks healthier than she did before) clem is wearing a t-shirt in winter IN THE RAIN but somehow isn't freezing to death.
    We get no indication of what struggles they have gone through. For all we know, they were camping in the woods peacefully for 16 months.

    So dark.

    an 11 year old is nearly shot, thrown into a shed overnight with a possible risk of infection that grown adults refuse to treat immediately, and that's not to mention that an eleven year old is stitching her own arm, and few of the adults apologize for forcing her to do so.

    To me, it comes off half-assed. It doesn't have the balls to go all the way with the darkness, and it's barely even mentioned after episode 1 that they locked her in a shed. They skip like a week and now she's all buddy-buddy with the cabin group.

    can you imagine the pain

    Uh, yeah I've been kicked in the dick so I can imagine. Doesn't change the fact that the scene was played off comedically. Nobody ever mentions Troy again. It was disposable.

    Cocoa2736 posted: »

    never mentioned by anyone though, so not much of an impact. that's even worse. The atmosphere is so dark a miscarriage is brushed up

  • Irene. And oddly enough, that's become an overall preferred response.

    Also, she was living there with her boyfriend, so...

    Louche posted: »

    The girl that says she's a christian, but forgets suicide is a sin? yeah...

  • I agree, we need more black characters to enhance the quality of the season and to balance the lack of minority characters. Perfectly balanced as all things should be.

  • Thank you, oh master of useless trivia

    DabigRG posted: »

    Irene. And oddly enough, that's become an overall preferred response. Also, she was living there with her boyfriend, so...

  • hehe lol classic telltale

    Louche posted: »

    The girl that says she's a christian, but forgets suicide is a sin? yeah...

  • edited June 2018

    I don't want darker. I want sadder. Season One was sad.

    Clementine is a story of tragedies. Many tragedies. So, with hope, are the other kids. Loss and survival. And that needs to catch up.

    Screw cruel grim survivalists. Give me sad broken survivalists.

  • Hey I didn't respond immediately because I got that you didn't think the game gave it's disturbing ideas enough justice to deserve to be called a dark story, and I don't have any problems with that.

    Your opinion on how well the game handled dark subject matter isn't what I was going after. I was just pointing out that the game does have dark content in it and that doesn't change just because it felt half assed. A miscarriage is a serious topic, plot holes and poor delivery may take away from the emotional impact, but it is still a grim addition to the story even if it was just implied. Dark comedy still deals with uncomfortable material even if it makes light of it.

    Its like when you have to see a comedy movie that you think is garbage. You can call it a bad comedy, and I might agree with you, but it's still a comedy all the same

    Louche posted: »

    that's even worse. The atmosphere is so dark a miscarriage is brushed upon in a time skip with little mention Oh yeah, it's so dark,

  • edited July 2018

    A miscarriage is a serious topic

    that isn't even remotely addressed aside from (possibly) one vague line from Clementine.

    I feel like the game is just a half-assed series of unfortunate events.
    You throw too much dark shit at us, don't give it time to develop, and then move on to some other poorly done dark thing, and it just induces apathy in the player.

    Cocoa2736 posted: »

    Hey I didn't respond immediately because I got that you didn't think the game gave it's disturbing ideas enough justice to deserve to be cal

  • I feel like the game is just a half-assed series of unfortunate events.

    Eh-heh-SENtially. :lol:

    You throw too much dark shit at us, don't give it time to develop, and then move on to some other poorly done dark thing, and it just induces apathy in the player.

    Don't forget salt.

    Louche posted: »

    A miscarriage is a serious topic that isn't even remotely addressed aside from (possibly) one vague line from Clementine. I feel

  • Rape clem scene and AJ cut to half.
    Boya dark season delivered ??

  • Fans pretty much went royal ape-shit over a slight hint at a possible boyfriend/love interest so you know how many players would be rushed to the ER or morgue from their living rooms if they portrayed a RAPE scene involving Clementine or really any sexual scene involving Clem? Might not happen. Then again folks also thought they'd never have to bring up Clementine's menarche in the series either.

    AJ could be cut in half if they retained the same level of violence as the first season. I think they've gotten softer over the years because now walker deaths don't involve eviscerations much anymore.

    Rape clem scene and AJ cut to half. Boya dark season delivered ??

  • Well, considering a rape scene is something a number of fans have been asking about since Season 1 ended...

    Ladariel posted: »

    Fans pretty much went royal ape-shit over a slight hint at a possible boyfriend/love interest so you know how many players would be rushed t

  • edited July 2018

    Don't forget salt

    That's the most sensible thing you've ever written.
    Good point.

    DabigRG posted: »

    I feel like the game is just a half-assed series of unfortunate events. Eh-heh-SENtially. You throw too much dark shit at us,

  • Season one has amazing scenarios. You're reaching way too far to form comparisons bro. There were some really impactful moments in both seasons, and some really wtf situations in them. Atleast I wasn't drowned with "protect your nephew because you love him!" in every episode. Fuck were they thinking?

    Louche posted: »

    The girl that says she's a christian, but forgets suicide is a sin? yeah...

  • Might I add that many people claim to be christian all the time and still do dirt. Kenny is a fine example even though I love that character too while his wife would also be a sinner.

    Louche posted: »

    The girl that says she's a christian, but forgets suicide is a sin? yeah...

  • Somebody that refers to things as "satanic" and "not christian" should probably know that suicide is a sin. It seems silly.

    Ladariel posted: »

    Might I add that many people claim to be christian all the time and still do dirt. Kenny is a fine example even though I love that character too while his wife would also be a sinner.

  • Season one's flaws become more noticeable to me on every replay.

    like how Lee seemed sadder about some random girl killing herself than his own brother being a zombie and having to brutally hack his head with an axe.

    Season one has amazing scenarios. You're reaching way too far to form comparisons bro. There were some really impactful moments in both seas

  • To be a teeny bit fair, having someone actually want to end their life in front of you is probably gonna hit a little more in the present than seeing someone you knew after their end. Plus, he was more or less in a zone of danger, so he didn't have much time/space.

    Louche posted: »

    Season one's flaws become more noticeable to me on every replay. like how Lee seemed sadder about some random girl killing herself than his own brother being a zombie and having to brutally hack his head with an axe.

  • edited July 2018

    Okay better example, why was Lee so fucking calm when Lilly flat out murders Carley right in front of him?
    I think the Irene scene just feels too early. If it was in Starved for Help, it would be much better.

    DabigRG posted: »

    To be a teeny bit fair, having someone actually want to end their life in front of you is probably gonna hit a little more in the present th

  • As long as they don't overdo it. Those dark moments feel impactful because they don't happen all of the time.

  • edited July 2018

    How about we rename the thread to “please can we stop being so depressing around here?”

  • Okay better example, why was Lee so fucking calm when Lilly flat out murders Carley right in front of him?

    Maybe Tranquil Fury? It's a thing.

    Again, potentially risky area to be getting super heated in and it's not like he hasn't experienced that type of thing before. In fact, I recall him [determinately?] being quite disappointed in Lily for crossing that line.

    I think the Irene scene just feels too early. If it was in Starved for Help, it would be much better.

    Hm....perhaps. Not sure how you'd set it up though.

    Louche posted: »

    Okay better example, why was Lee so fucking calm when Lilly flat out murders Carley right in front of him? I think the Irene scene just feels too early. If it was in Starved for Help, it would be much better.

  • I hope so too, I didn’t like AMF as much other than Javier Garcia and most of the characters like Tripp,Conrad,Clint, Max and David....Kate was ok but she was annoying including Gabriel. Hopefully before final season will have longer episodes then it’s to predecessors like season two And ANF.

    Hopefully

  • edited July 2018

    mmm... You could have a scenario where Lee talks down Jolene, Jolene realizes her daughter is never coming back, and she shoots herself in front of Lee.

    Lee just seems to be a guy that represses his emotions a lot, unlike say Kenny. So when he gets all emotional over a girl (Irene) he just met it seems weird. His big "nooooo" when she's going to shoot herself seems kinda cheesy, you know?

    DabigRG posted: »

    Okay better example, why was Lee so fucking calm when Lilly flat out murders Carley right in front of him? Maybe Tranquil Fury? It's

  • mmm... You could have a scenario where Lee talks down Jolene, Jolene realizes her daughter is never coming back, and she shoots herself in front of Lee.

    There ya go. You had to change who does it, but at least it ties in more with the story.

    Speaking of which, Glenn could've just been Doug.

    Lee just seems to be a guy that represses his emotions a lot, unlike say Kenny.

    More or less.

    His big "nooooo" when she's going to shoot herself seems kinda cheesy, you know?

    Yeah, but how the hell ARE you supposed to react to that situation? :lol:

    Louche posted: »

    mmm... You could have a scenario where Lee talks down Jolene, Jolene realizes her daughter is never coming back, and she shoots herself in f

  • Speaking of which, Glenn could've just been Doug.

    Yep, we already heard how Doug had the "hero syndrome" when he saved Carley, so him trying to save the motel girl makes sense too.
    Still, it doesn't bother me that much. Glenn in the comics never really got much backstory, so...
    and Doug still has his scene with Lee outside the store.

    Yeah, but how the hell ARE you supposed to react to that situation? :lol:

    Maybe I'm just nitpicking, but I tend to believe my gut feelings when something feels wrong. Maybe it's just the context. Most of the time Lee doesn't even have a chance to actually save anyone. They either die instantly (like with carley) or it turns out they were bitten off-screen (duck) so we don't get too much of a dramatic reaction.

    DabigRG posted: »

    mmm... You could have a scenario where Lee talks down Jolene, Jolene realizes her daughter is never coming back, and she shoots herself in f

  • Yep, we already heard how Doug had the "hero syndrome" when he saved Carley, so him trying to save the motel girl makes sense too.

    And Carley being against helping Irene would have more correlation as well.

    Still, it doesn't bother me that much. Glenn in the comics never really got much backstory, so...

    Really now?
    That's weird.

    and Doug still has his scene with Lee outside the store.

    I just wish he still had not only a second scene to interact with Lee and/or the other characters, but an actual introduction as well.

    Maybe I'm just nitpicking, but I tend to believe my gut feelings when something feels wrong. Maybe it's just the context.

    Perhaps.

    Most of the time Lee doesn't even have a chance to actually save anyone. They either die instantly (like with carley) or it turns out they were bitten off-screen (duck) so we don't get too much of a dramatic reaction.

    Huh. Never really thought about that.

    Louche posted: »

    Speaking of which, Glenn could've just been Doug. Yep, we already heard how Doug had the "hero syndrome" when he saved Carley, so hi

  • And Carley being against helping Irene would have more correlation as well.

    Why because of the weird little mention of her thinking Doug is cute?
    Hell, they'd make a better pairing than lee (who fits better with lilly). What was the point of that anyway?

    Really now? That's weird.

    He was a main character for the first couple volumes, then he faded into the background. He was kinda set up to be the main character's best friend or right hand guy, and then he just slowly got less and less important. But yeah, the game does connect pretty decently to the comic in regards to his character.

    but an actual introduction as well.

    well he gets one if you talk to carley first.

    Huh. Never really thought about that.

    Yeah, can you tell we've discussed this game too much? I'm scraping the bottom here.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Yep, we already heard how Doug had the "hero syndrome" when he saved Carley, so him trying to save the motel girl makes sense too. A

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