And by "not appearing", I'm sure they mean that the voice actor of Javier for example will not record any lines, we will simply NOT see Javier or any of the Garcias this season, which includes flashbacks.
This sentence kinda contradicts itself. Wanna rephrase/explain it?
If you look at all scenes with Jesus in ANF, you will see that his dialogue is very insignificant and that people only like him because he is badass, he doesn't contribute to the story at all, in fact you could cut out Jesus completely in ANF and the story won't change a bit.
Just give some of his scenes to Tripp and you're done.
There was a leak with Javier? That has to be fake though, Telltale has straight out said several times that none of the Garcias will appear … moreat all. And by "not appearing", I'm sure they mean that the voice actor of Javier for example will not record any lines, we will simply NOT see Javier or any of the Garcias this season, which includes flashbacks. But yeah, I REALLY hope they will explain why Clem is just ignoring Richmond because ANF not making an impact in season 4 really pisses me off.
I believe that some comic book characters (like Glenn and Hershell) can be interesting to see, because it makes you go "Oh I know that character! Cool to see him/her here!" but it also makes you think "Eh they are comic characters, they can't die so who cares" while you are afraid that all the other characters can die any second. If you look at all scenes with Jesus in ANF, you will see that his dialogue is very insignificant and that people only like … [view original content]
There was a leak with Javier? That has to be fake though, Telltale has straight out said several times that none of the Garcias will appear at all. And by "not appearing", I'm sure they mean that the voice actor of Javier for example will not record any lines, we will simply NOT see Javier or any of the Garcias this season, which includes flashbacks. But yeah, I REALLY hope they will explain why Clem is just ignoring Richmond because ANF not making an impact in season 4 really pisses me off.
I did say in my first response that I was thinking that Javier could appear in a flashback in order to explain why Clementine did not return to Richmond. But I think I may have also said that I had thought about it more so I was not sure of the likelihood of Javier actually returning.
And the Javier leak..... That was for Road to Survival, a mobile app. There was a datamine in the Road To Survival app that showed there will be a new variant of Javier. Which is what made me think it could have meant some sort of appearance for Javier in The Final Season because he is being released along with the Boarding School group at some point in the Road To Survival app. You may have missed that part of my comment. This video will explain what I meant in relation to Javier and why I plucked the possibility of him returning in a flashback:
And by "not appearing", I'm sure they mean that the voice actor of Javier for example will not record any lines, we will simply NOT see Javier or any of the Garcias this season, which includes flashbacks
cheers for letting me know I think the exclusion of Jeff Schine would pretty much mean the exclusion of Javier so thanks for pointing that out.
I believe that some comic book characters (like Glenn and Hershell) can be interesting to see, because it makes you go "Oh I know that character! Cool to see him/her here!" but it also makes you think "Eh they are comic characters, they can't die so who cares" while you are afraid that all the other characters can die any second. If you look at all scenes with Jesus in ANF, you will see that his dialogue is very insignificant and that people only like him because he is badass, he doesn't contribute to the story at all, in fact you could cut out Jesus completely in ANF and the story won't change a bit.
They tie in the Game Series with the Comic Book series. It would be odd for them not to bump into each other as both the Game and the Comics take place in Virginia and they are some of the only living people in that area that we know of. Plot-armour or no plot-armour they serve as a tie in and they do play a role in the story.
in fact you could cut out Jesus completely in ANF and the story won't change a bit.
Actually no because Jesus informed the Kingdom of what was happening at Richmond with Joan and Clint. He also informed the group that Richmond was under the control of the New Frontier. So yes the story would kind of change if he was removed completely.
And to me it seems you picked Jesus as he appeared in a game that was plagued by constant rewrites which in turn caused the plot of the game to be confusing to and disliked by many fans. If A New Frontier had not encountered the problems that it had during its time of development and if the last minute rewrites did not happen then I bet nobody would have complained about the role that Jesus would have had in A New Frontier.
Also, Telltale receive a lot of shit for a reason, you're treating them like they haven't done anything wrong and that the disapointed customers are just evil for criticizing their extremely obvious flaws. If you are disapointed with something, you don't just sit back and do nothing because "Telltale are under a lot of pressure", no you fight to make a difference. Imagine if a president makes a huge mistake and the people in that country go "Eh the president is under a lot of stress, let's not complain, he has a tough job".
Yes yes the customers are evil and I cannot abide it. Jokes aside I can see the "extremely obvious flaws" but that does not stop me from loving their games. What game company has a clean slate and hasn't done anything that did not anger fans? I also think the word evil is a bit of a stretch. I don't think anyone is evil. Did I say that those people were evil?
If you are disapointed with something, you don't just sit back and do nothing because "Telltale are under a lot of pressure", no you fight to make a difference.
Did we not already do that? Isn't that why Pete Hawley is the CEO? Isn't that why the Board of Directors went and searched for a suitable candidate for CEO which according to sources was a long and tiring process? Because the Community voiced their complaints isn't that why Telltale's Board and Pete Hawley thought it was best to cut 25% of their workforce and slow down production in order to improve the quality of their games which is something that many people are unhappy about?
Imagine if a president makes a huge mistake and the people in that country go "Eh the president is under a lot of stress, let's not complain, he has a tough job".
I was referring to everyone at Telltale not specifically the CEO as Pete Hawley and his position would bear more resemblance to the position of a President than a Lead Writer or a Narrative Designer would. But yeah having empathy and putting yourself in that position is what influences why I think of Telltale in such a positive light. I may not be the most positive person on the planet but I want to and try to be. But how come being positive about Telltale and The Final Season results in me being told I call the customers evil and ignoring the flaws that were apparent in Telltale through 2014-2017?
I want to say that you sound very familiar. Do I know you from Discord maybe? Oh and judging by your response and how you phrased your comment it seems you have a problem in particular with me and my view towards Telltale. Why is that? If people are allowed to view Telltale in a negative light then why can't I view Telltale in a positive light without being questioned as to why I like Telltale. I don't have to follow the crowd. I prefer to take my own path.
And as for this response to your comment, As you can see I was quite sarcastic in how I replied. I was just having a laugh. I know I am quite a dick. But I have no negative feelings towards you. But can you at least look at my responses and at least consider what I say? I may not be a respected forum user ( I am far from that) but I do think I make some alright points and arguments (not trying to sound bigheaded or arrogant).
There was a leak with Javier? That has to be fake though, Telltale has straight out said several times that none of the Garcias will appear … moreat all. And by "not appearing", I'm sure they mean that the voice actor of Javier for example will not record any lines, we will simply NOT see Javier or any of the Garcias this season, which includes flashbacks. But yeah, I REALLY hope they will explain why Clem is just ignoring Richmond because ANF not making an impact in season 4 really pisses me off.
I believe that some comic book characters (like Glenn and Hershell) can be interesting to see, because it makes you go "Oh I know that character! Cool to see him/her here!" but it also makes you think "Eh they are comic characters, they can't die so who cares" while you are afraid that all the other characters can die any second. If you look at all scenes with Jesus in ANF, you will see that his dialogue is very insignificant and that people only like … [view original content]
I would pay top dollar to see Tripp run up a wall and kick a walker in the head. Although I can't help but feel that the very thought of me giving money to Telltale to make it happen would certainly grind the gears of people
And by "not appearing", I'm sure they mean that the voice actor of Javier for example will not record any lines, we will simply NOT see Javi… moreer or any of the Garcias this season, which includes flashbacks.
This sentence kinda contradicts itself. Wanna rephrase/explain it?
If you look at all scenes with Jesus in ANF, you will see that his dialogue is very insignificant and that people only like him because he is badass, he doesn't contribute to the story at all, in fact you could cut out Jesus completely in ANF and the story won't change a bit.
Just give some of his scenes to Tripp and you're done.
Oh, I thought it was to show that the Comic Books and the Telltale games' stories exist in the same universe and around the same area (Virginia)
Apologies for the sarcasm Dabig I got no problems with you. In fact I actually enjoy reading your comments on discussions. You know your stuff
Sorry, that sentence sounded better in my head. What I meant was that Telltale have several times officially confirmed that we will not even SEE Javier in season 4 at all. I take that as we will NOT see Javier in any way, not in the current story or a flashback. If Jeff Schine (Voice actor of Javier) actually did record some lines for Javier in season 4 and if Javier really does appear in a flashback in season 4, then Telltale kind of lied to us since they confirmed that "We will NOT see Javier in season 4".
And by "not appearing", I'm sure they mean that the voice actor of Javier for example will not record any lines, we will simply NOT see Javi… moreer or any of the Garcias this season, which includes flashbacks.
This sentence kinda contradicts itself. Wanna rephrase/explain it?
If you look at all scenes with Jesus in ANF, you will see that his dialogue is very insignificant and that people only like him because he is badass, he doesn't contribute to the story at all, in fact you could cut out Jesus completely in ANF and the story won't change a bit.
Just give some of his scenes to Tripp and you're done.
Even if your assumptions are true, why would Telltale leak any surprises? Was Kenny confirmed to return in S2 before it released? [I'm honestly asking, I wasn't on here and even playing when S2 came out]
Sorry, that sentence sounded better in my head. What I meant was that Telltale have several times officially confirmed that we will not even… more SEE Javier in season 4 at all. I take that as we will NOT see Javier in any way, not in the current story or a flashback. If Jeff Schine (Voice actor of Javier) actually did record some lines for Javier in season 4 and if Javier really does appear in a flashback in season 4, then Telltale kind of lied to us since they confirmed that "We will NOT see Javier in season 4".
Ay cojones. Can we all just settle down? Let us not be impetuous and just wait for the first episode to release. If Telltale have not learnt their lesson, then that is their problem. You can watch a walkthrough on ‘YouTube’ before you make your final decision whether or not the final season is worthwhile.
Well, I doubt they're leaking on purpose. And no, Kenny's return was not leaked, but some people "knew" or guessed that he would return since we didn't see him actually die. Amid The Ruins was the first episode that got leaked and actually turned out to be 100% true, and we've been seeing more of that lately.
Even if your assumptions are true, why would Telltale leak any surprises? Was Kenny confirmed to return in S2 before it released? [I'm honestly asking, I wasn't on here and even playing when S2 came out]
Well, I doubt they're leaking on purpose. And no, Kenny's return was not leaked, but some people "knew" or guessed that he would return sinc… moree we didn't see him actually die. Amid The Ruins was the first episode that got leaked and actually turned out to be 100% true, and we've been seeing more of that lately.
And to me it seems you picked [any character] as they appeared in a game that was plagued by constant rewrites which in turn caused the plot of the game to be confusing to and disliked by many fans. If A New Frontier had not encountered the problems that it had during its time of development and if the last minute rewrites did not happen then I bet nobody would have complained about the role that [insert character here]would have had in A New Frontier.
There ya go.
Though even that's bound to have exceptions.
There was a leak with Javier? That has to be fake though, Telltale has straight out said several times that none of the Garcias will appear … moreat all. And by "not appearing", I'm sure they mean that the voice actor of Javier for example will not record any lines, we will simply NOT see Javier or any of the Garcias this season, which includes flashbacks. But yeah, I REALLY hope they will explain why Clem is just ignoring Richmond because ANF not making an impact in season 4 really pisses me off.
I did say in my first response that I was thinking that Javier could appear in a flashback in order to explain why Clementine did not return to Richmond. But I think I may have also said that I had thought about it more so I was not sure of the likelihood of Javier actually returning.
And the Javier leak..... That was for Road to Survival, a mobile app. There was a datamine in the Road To Survival app that showed there will be a new variant of … [view original content]
I would pay top dollar to see Tripp run up a wall and kick a walker in the head. Although I can't help but feel that the very thought of me giving money to Telltale to make it happen would certainly grind the gears of people
Yes, Jesus informed the Kingdom about the danger Richmond was in, that still doesn't change the story, only makes it harder for the Garcias to kill the walkers in Richmond. And the rewrites wasn't the biggest problem with Jesus, because like I just said, he can't die. When I play TWD, I get the feeling that "I better not mess up or a character can die any second", but with Jesus, I would just think "Oh yeah he's a comic character, so who cares what happens to him, he can't die anyway" if you get my point. It just kind of ruins the tension IMO.
And yes, Telltale finally fired Bruner and replaced him with Pete, but just because we have a much better CEO doesn't mean he or anyone else in the company won't make any mistakes. We should still speak up if there's something we don't like, so they can listen and hopefully improve instead of repeating the same mistakes, doesn't that make sense? Are people here not allowed to speak their mind about a game that they paid for because you feel a certain way about Telltale?
And about Discord, idk, I guess it's possible? I don't remember you though. And no, I don't hate you, I think you are very kind and I like your optimism, but every single time someone says something about Telltale/TWD they don't like, you say something like "NO season 4 will be AMAZING, trust me I know!" If Telltale announced that season 4 will only be 2 episodes, with both of them being 10 minutes each, you would STILL defend them, and be angry at anyone who disagrees because you think that "Telltale is under a lot of pressure".
There was a leak with Javier? That has to be fake though, Telltale has straight out said several times that none of the Garcias will appear … moreat all. And by "not appearing", I'm sure they mean that the voice actor of Javier for example will not record any lines, we will simply NOT see Javier or any of the Garcias this season, which includes flashbacks. But yeah, I REALLY hope they will explain why Clem is just ignoring Richmond because ANF not making an impact in season 4 really pisses me off.
I did say in my first response that I was thinking that Javier could appear in a flashback in order to explain why Clementine did not return to Richmond. But I think I may have also said that I had thought about it more so I was not sure of the likelihood of Javier actually returning.
And the Javier leak..... That was for Road to Survival, a mobile app. There was a datamine in the Road To Survival app that showed there will be a new variant of … [view original content]
Oh, I thought it was to show that the Comic Books and the Telltale games' stories exist in the same universe and around the same area (Virgi… morenia)
Apologies for the sarcasm Dabig I got no problems with you. In fact I actually enjoy reading your comments on discussions. You know your stuff
Did they now? I remember them saying something like "Probably not." when unveiling the Boarding School Group at least, but I also haven't been paying much attention to other things enough to know that.
Thanks for helping me get that!
if Javier really does appear in a flashback in season 4, then Telltale kind of lied to us since they confirmed that "We will NOT see Javier in season 4".
Sorry, that sentence sounded better in my head. What I meant was that Telltale have several times officially confirmed that we will not even… more SEE Javier in season 4 at all. I take that as we will NOT see Javier in any way, not in the current story or a flashback. If Jeff Schine (Voice actor of Javier) actually did record some lines for Javier in season 4 and if Javier really does appear in a flashback in season 4, then Telltale kind of lied to us since they confirmed that "We will NOT see Javier in season 4".
Yes, Jesus informed the Kingdom about the danger Richmond was in, that still doesn't change the story, only makes it harder for the Garcias to kill the walkers in Richmond.
But it is part of the story. Removing that removes an aspect of the plot/story. The story does change if Jesus is removed.
And the rewrites wasn't the biggest problem with Jesus, because like I just said, he can't die. When I play TWD, I get the feeling that "I better not mess up or a character can die any second" but with Jesus, I would just think "Oh yeah he's a comic character, so who cares what happens to him, he can't die anyway" if you get my point
He still plays a role in the plot of A New Frontier. He may have had a much bigger role if the rewrites didn't take place. Despite being a Comic Book character whom Telltale do not have control over in regards to him being killed off he still ties in the games to the story of the comics. That may be a lame explanation but it is still an explanation/ answer nonetheless
And yes, Telltale finally fired Bruner and replaced him with Pete, but just because we have a much better CEO doesn't mean he or anyone else in the company won't make any mistakes. We should still speak up if there's something we don't like, so they can listen and hopefully improve instead of repeating the same mistakes, doesn't that make sense? Are people here not allowed to speak their mind about a game that they paid for because you feel a certain way about Telltale?
Mistakes happen in any company not just Telltale. Mistakes can lead to future improvement. Pete has done an extremely good job since he took over as CEO back in September. Focusing on improving game quality and taking the feedback of fans into consideration is something that the community has been begging for over the last few years. And yes I understand what you are saying but what I am saying is that the community has already voiced their concerns and it has led to an appointment of a new CEO and the slowing down of game production to focus on improving and fine-tuning an Episode(s) both of which were requested for a very long time. There is probably even more that has been requested and it is being taken into consideration that I am unable to think of. I am not sure if you have played other Telltale titles but games that were released after A New Frontier have seen improvements in Episode length and overall quality. This has been noted by a decent amount members of the community.
Are people here not allowed to speak their mind about a game that they paid for because you feel a certain way about Telltale?
Never said that people can't. I don't make the rules here. As much as I may not like seeing comments that have any negativity towards Telltale it is not like they are going to say "Oh well Dylan doesn't really like that comment, maybe we should stop". I may not like what some people have to say but they have an opinion and everyone is entitled to one. Am I not allowed to speak my mind about a game that I paid for and enjoyed? Am I not allowed to enjoy their content and defend Telltale because other people feel a certain way towards Telltale and their content?
And about Discord, idk, I guess it's possible? I don't remember you though.
My mistake I thought you were someone else as you type/phrase your comments similar to someone I was friends with on Discord. I am sorry.
And no, I don't hate you, I think you are very kind and I like your optimism
I don't really think I am. But thanks anyways for the kind words. Sorry for blowing that out of proportion.
but every single time someone says something about Telltale/TWD they don't like, you say something like "NO season 4 will be AMAZING, trust me I know!" If Telltale announced that season 4 will only be 2 episodes, with both of them being 10 minutes each, you would STILL defend them, and be angry at anyone who disagrees because you think that "Telltale is under a lot of pressure".
I am being optimistic and I am trying to get other people to be hyped for The Final Season. Telltale have been working very hard to produce The Final Season ( I say that as Walking Dead is by far their biggest franchise and with it coming to an end they would want it to go out with a bang) and they want to regain the trust of their fans. They want to show that they are putting in the time and effort to cater to players interests and the feedback given.
If Telltale announced that season 4 will only be 2 episodes, with both of them being 10 minutes each, you would STILL defend them
But I wouldn't though. Why do you assume that I would do that? Because I defended Telltale over numerous other issues people had before? Just like anyone else I would be pretty annoyed. I would question them and their decision to make a Two Episode Season that has 10 minute Episodes. Who wouldn't? But honestly that statement above is a bit of an exaggeration of me and my defence of Telltale and it is an unlikely scenario.
and be angry at anyone who disagrees because you think that "Telltale is under a lot of pressure".
Okay let's say you are in the position of any of the Telltale Staff working on The Final Season or The Wolf Among Us Season Two as they are the two biggest franchises that Telltale have. As a member of the dev team working on either of those big games you are obviously going to try your very best at producing the game as it is what you are paid to do. But then you take a look online be it on these forums or Twitter, Facebook etc. and you see that quite a large number of the community is dismissing/doubting the product and how it will turn out. That is bound to affect your confidence in your capabilities and you want to try to prove them wrong so you work harder and harder and gradually putting more pressure on yourself until you are completely exhausted. It is not good for those that are involved in the development of the game.
Telltale are under a lot of pressure. Quite a lot actually. Like I said in one of my previous comments this is a make or break for Telltale. Knowing that in itself is enough pressure. But also knowing that there are people who think the game will turn out bad and constantly talk bad about Telltale, the company that you are affiliated with, as well as questioning every single decision that relates to the game is even more pressuring. I thought long and hard about the sort of stress and exhaustion that comes with trying to develop a game that people will enjoy, that is why I defend Telltale. I empathized with the employees and everyone that works at Telltale. They do not have it easy. And again like I said in one of my previous comments that if people were to place themselves into the positions of Telltale Employees and actually experienced how hard it is to try and work on a game, along with the knowledge that the community is doubting it and writing it off, that would cause people to crumble under the heaps of pressure involved.
As a Community we do have a role to voice concerns and share feedback both good and bad. I am aware of that. And as much as I dislike the comments that question/doubt and even dismiss Telltale and a game I know that it is the community sharing feedback. But at some point you have to lay off and give the people who make the game some breathing room to actually make it. Doing a job/ working on something is a lot harder if you know that people are critiquing every single thing about it.
The Community has been asking questions but why can't the Community give Telltale the time to answer? We have done our jobs so why not let Telltale do theirs?
P.S. I want to say I am sorry for being rude in my previous comments. I should not have acted that way at all.
Yes, Jesus informed the Kingdom about the danger Richmond was in, that still doesn't change the story, only makes it harder for the Garcias … moreto kill the walkers in Richmond. And the rewrites wasn't the biggest problem with Jesus, because like I just said, he can't die. When I play TWD, I get the feeling that "I better not mess up or a character can die any second", but with Jesus, I would just think "Oh yeah he's a comic character, so who cares what happens to him, he can't die anyway" if you get my point. It just kind of ruins the tension IMO.
And yes, Telltale finally fired Bruner and replaced him with Pete, but just because we have a much better CEO doesn't mean he or anyone else in the company won't make any mistakes. We should still speak up if there's something we don't like, so they can listen and hopefully improve instead of repeating the same mistakes, doesn't that make sense? Are people here not allowed to speak their mind about a… [view original content]
I don't read the comics, so I've not a single idea how Jesus is portrayed in them, but he was pretty boring, insignificant and annoying in A New Frontier (like much of the characters, really). It seems like he was only brought in for fan service or something, and to show just how badass and cool he is when fighting walkers.
To me, the character's a bit over the top and I'd much prefer if the final season's cast is more like the original game's- largely ordinary people thrust into drastic and deadly situations, most of whom are created by Telltale. That doesn't mean I don't want psychopaths and criminals, or cannibals and hardened survivors, and other definitely not ordinary people, but just that I want characters whose abilities are within the realms of reality and not semi ninjas like Jesus. It gives the story a better sense of realism and allows tension to develop naturally.
There are no stakes using the comic characters and for those that do not read them, which is a large enough number of the fanbase, it can be a bit alienating since we have little reason to care about them. If Jesus (or anyone else from the comic books) has to be in the game, I think using him like Hershel from season 1 would be for the best.
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This sentence kinda contradicts itself. Wanna rephrase/explain it?
Just give some of his scenes to Tripp and you're done.
I did say in my first response that I was thinking that Javier could appear in a flashback in order to explain why Clementine did not return to Richmond. But I think I may have also said that I had thought about it more so I was not sure of the likelihood of Javier actually returning.
And the Javier leak..... That was for Road to Survival, a mobile app. There was a datamine in the Road To Survival app that showed there will be a new variant of Javier. Which is what made me think it could have meant some sort of appearance for Javier in The Final Season because he is being released along with the Boarding School group at some point in the Road To Survival app. You may have missed that part of my comment. This video will explain what I meant in relation to Javier and why I plucked the possibility of him returning in a flashback:
cheers for letting me know I think the exclusion of Jeff Schine would pretty much mean the exclusion of Javier so thanks for pointing that out.
They tie in the Game Series with the Comic Book series. It would be odd for them not to bump into each other as both the Game and the Comics take place in Virginia and they are some of the only living people in that area that we know of. Plot-armour or no plot-armour they serve as a tie in and they do play a role in the story.
Actually no because Jesus informed the Kingdom of what was happening at Richmond with Joan and Clint. He also informed the group that Richmond was under the control of the New Frontier. So yes the story would kind of change if he was removed completely.
And to me it seems you picked Jesus as he appeared in a game that was plagued by constant rewrites which in turn caused the plot of the game to be confusing to and disliked by many fans. If A New Frontier had not encountered the problems that it had during its time of development and if the last minute rewrites did not happen then I bet nobody would have complained about the role that Jesus would have had in A New Frontier.
Yes yes the customers are evil and I cannot abide it. Jokes aside I can see the "extremely obvious flaws" but that does not stop me from loving their games. What game company has a clean slate and hasn't done anything that did not anger fans? I also think the word evil is a bit of a stretch. I don't think anyone is evil. Did I say that those people were evil?
Did we not already do that? Isn't that why Pete Hawley is the CEO? Isn't that why the Board of Directors went and searched for a suitable candidate for CEO which according to sources was a long and tiring process? Because the Community voiced their complaints isn't that why Telltale's Board and Pete Hawley thought it was best to cut 25% of their workforce and slow down production in order to improve the quality of their games which is something that many people are unhappy about?
I was referring to everyone at Telltale not specifically the CEO as Pete Hawley and his position would bear more resemblance to the position of a President than a Lead Writer or a Narrative Designer would. But yeah having empathy and putting yourself in that position is what influences why I think of Telltale in such a positive light. I may not be the most positive person on the planet but I want to and try to be. But how come being positive about Telltale and The Final Season results in me being told I call the customers evil and ignoring the flaws that were apparent in Telltale through 2014-2017?
I want to say that you sound very familiar. Do I know you from Discord maybe? Oh and judging by your response and how you phrased your comment it seems you have a problem in particular with me and my view towards Telltale. Why is that? If people are allowed to view Telltale in a negative light then why can't I view Telltale in a positive light without being questioned as to why I like Telltale. I don't have to follow the crowd. I prefer to take my own path.
And as for this response to your comment, As you can see I was quite sarcastic in how I replied. I was just having a laugh. I know I am quite a dick. But I have no negative feelings towards you. But can you at least look at my responses and at least consider what I say? I may not be a respected forum user ( I am far from that) but I do think I make some alright points and arguments (not trying to sound bigheaded or arrogant).
I would pay top dollar to see Tripp run up a wall and kick a walker in the head. Although I can't help but feel that the very thought of me giving money to Telltale to make it happen would certainly grind the gears of people
Oh, I thought it was to show that the Comic Books and the Telltale games' stories exist in the same universe and around the same area (Virginia)
Apologies for the sarcasm Dabig I got no problems with you. In fact I actually enjoy reading your comments on discussions. You know your stuff
Ugh....well Jesus doesn't count as a returning character. I don't care what the plan is for him, give us Lilly and Christa!
Sorry, that sentence sounded better in my head. What I meant was that Telltale have several times officially confirmed that we will not even SEE Javier in season 4 at all. I take that as we will NOT see Javier in any way, not in the current story or a flashback. If Jeff Schine (Voice actor of Javier) actually did record some lines for Javier in season 4 and if Javier really does appear in a flashback in season 4, then Telltale kind of lied to us since they confirmed that "We will NOT see Javier in season 4".
Even if your assumptions are true, why would Telltale leak any surprises? Was Kenny confirmed to return in S2 before it released? [I'm honestly asking, I wasn't on here and even playing when S2 came out]
Ay cojones. Can we all just settle down? Let us not be impetuous and just wait for the first episode to release. If Telltale have not learnt their lesson, then that is their problem. You can watch a walkthrough on ‘YouTube’ before you make your final decision whether or not the final season is worthwhile.
Well, I doubt they're leaking on purpose. And no, Kenny's return was not leaked, but some people "knew" or guessed that he would return since we didn't see him actually die. Amid The Ruins was the first episode that got leaked and actually turned out to be 100% true, and we've been seeing more of that lately.
Some of his House Divided files were in the previous episode before that one released.
There ya go.
Though even that's bound to have exceptions.
I said some of his scenes.
But yes, having him save Gabe would the first of hopefully many improvements.
Yes, Jesus informed the Kingdom about the danger Richmond was in, that still doesn't change the story, only makes it harder for the Garcias to kill the walkers in Richmond. And the rewrites wasn't the biggest problem with Jesus, because like I just said, he can't die. When I play TWD, I get the feeling that "I better not mess up or a character can die any second", but with Jesus, I would just think "Oh yeah he's a comic character, so who cares what happens to him, he can't die anyway" if you get my point. It just kind of ruins the tension IMO.
And yes, Telltale finally fired Bruner and replaced him with Pete, but just because we have a much better CEO doesn't mean he or anyone else in the company won't make any mistakes. We should still speak up if there's something we don't like, so they can listen and hopefully improve instead of repeating the same mistakes, doesn't that make sense? Are people here not allowed to speak their mind about a game that they paid for because you feel a certain way about Telltale?
And about Discord, idk, I guess it's possible? I don't remember you though. And no, I don't hate you, I think you are very kind and I like your optimism, but every single time someone says something about Telltale/TWD they don't like, you say something like "NO season 4 will be AMAZING, trust me I know!" If Telltale announced that season 4 will only be 2 episodes, with both of them being 10 minutes each, you would STILL defend them, and be angry at anyone who disagrees because you think that "Telltale is under a lot of pressure".
Oh, so he's Hershell, Glenn, and originally Lily?
Nah, but seriously, that is more or less true. As a generalization of the original intent.
Oh no, that's fine. I'd rather have humorous and/or satirical debates than the harsher alternative. Partially because it's more fun that way.
Did they now? I remember them saying something like "Probably not." when unveiling the Boarding School Group at least, but I also haven't been paying much attention to other things enough to know that.
Thanks for helping me get that!
It wouldn't be the first time; oh boy....
Including Sarita's name, even.
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So just because he can't die his purpose is to look cool? Also just because that was his purpose in ANF doesn't mean its his in the Final season.
I will only accept Jesus back into my life if his weapon of choice are fish.
But it is part of the story. Removing that removes an aspect of the plot/story. The story does change if Jesus is removed.
He still plays a role in the plot of A New Frontier. He may have had a much bigger role if the rewrites didn't take place. Despite being a Comic Book character whom Telltale do not have control over in regards to him being killed off he still ties in the games to the story of the comics. That may be a lame explanation but it is still an explanation/ answer nonetheless
Mistakes happen in any company not just Telltale. Mistakes can lead to future improvement. Pete has done an extremely good job since he took over as CEO back in September. Focusing on improving game quality and taking the feedback of fans into consideration is something that the community has been begging for over the last few years. And yes I understand what you are saying but what I am saying is that the community has already voiced their concerns and it has led to an appointment of a new CEO and the slowing down of game production to focus on improving and fine-tuning an Episode(s) both of which were requested for a very long time. There is probably even more that has been requested and it is being taken into consideration that I am unable to think of. I am not sure if you have played other Telltale titles but games that were released after A New Frontier have seen improvements in Episode length and overall quality. This has been noted by a decent amount members of the community.
Never said that people can't. I don't make the rules here. As much as I may not like seeing comments that have any negativity towards Telltale it is not like they are going to say "Oh well Dylan doesn't really like that comment, maybe we should stop". I may not like what some people have to say but they have an opinion and everyone is entitled to one. Am I not allowed to speak my mind about a game that I paid for and enjoyed? Am I not allowed to enjoy their content and defend Telltale because other people feel a certain way towards Telltale and their content?
My mistake I thought you were someone else as you type/phrase your comments similar to someone I was friends with on Discord. I am sorry.
I don't really think I am. But thanks anyways for the kind words. Sorry for blowing that out of proportion.
I am being optimistic and I am trying to get other people to be hyped for The Final Season. Telltale have been working very hard to produce The Final Season ( I say that as Walking Dead is by far their biggest franchise and with it coming to an end they would want it to go out with a bang) and they want to regain the trust of their fans. They want to show that they are putting in the time and effort to cater to players interests and the feedback given.
But I wouldn't though. Why do you assume that I would do that? Because I defended Telltale over numerous other issues people had before? Just like anyone else I would be pretty annoyed. I would question them and their decision to make a Two Episode Season that has 10 minute Episodes. Who wouldn't? But honestly that statement above is a bit of an exaggeration of me and my defence of Telltale and it is an unlikely scenario.
Okay let's say you are in the position of any of the Telltale Staff working on The Final Season or The Wolf Among Us Season Two as they are the two biggest franchises that Telltale have. As a member of the dev team working on either of those big games you are obviously going to try your very best at producing the game as it is what you are paid to do. But then you take a look online be it on these forums or Twitter, Facebook etc. and you see that quite a large number of the community is dismissing/doubting the product and how it will turn out. That is bound to affect your confidence in your capabilities and you want to try to prove them wrong so you work harder and harder and gradually putting more pressure on yourself until you are completely exhausted. It is not good for those that are involved in the development of the game.
Telltale are under a lot of pressure. Quite a lot actually. Like I said in one of my previous comments this is a make or break for Telltale. Knowing that in itself is enough pressure. But also knowing that there are people who think the game will turn out bad and constantly talk bad about Telltale, the company that you are affiliated with, as well as questioning every single decision that relates to the game is even more pressuring. I thought long and hard about the sort of stress and exhaustion that comes with trying to develop a game that people will enjoy, that is why I defend Telltale. I empathized with the employees and everyone that works at Telltale. They do not have it easy. And again like I said in one of my previous comments that if people were to place themselves into the positions of Telltale Employees and actually experienced how hard it is to try and work on a game, along with the knowledge that the community is doubting it and writing it off, that would cause people to crumble under the heaps of pressure involved.
As a Community we do have a role to voice concerns and share feedback both good and bad. I am aware of that. And as much as I dislike the comments that question/doubt and even dismiss Telltale and a game I know that it is the community sharing feedback. But at some point you have to lay off and give the people who make the game some breathing room to actually make it. Doing a job/ working on something is a lot harder if you know that people are critiquing every single thing about it.
The Community has been asking questions but why can't the Community give Telltale the time to answer? We have done our jobs so why not let Telltale do theirs?
P.S. I want to say I am sorry for being rude in my previous comments. I should not have acted that way at all.
Leave the comic book alone Telltale, for fuckssakes. Jesus was such a useless character in ANF.
I don't read the comics, so I've not a single idea how Jesus is portrayed in them, but he was pretty boring, insignificant and annoying in A New Frontier (like much of the characters, really). It seems like he was only brought in for fan service or something, and to show just how badass and cool he is when fighting walkers.
To me, the character's a bit over the top and I'd much prefer if the final season's cast is more like the original game's- largely ordinary people thrust into drastic and deadly situations, most of whom are created by Telltale. That doesn't mean I don't want psychopaths and criminals, or cannibals and hardened survivors, and other definitely not ordinary people, but just that I want characters whose abilities are within the realms of reality and not semi ninjas like Jesus. It gives the story a better sense of realism and allows tension to develop naturally.
There are no stakes using the comic characters and for those that do not read them, which is a large enough number of the fanbase, it can be a bit alienating since we have little reason to care about them. If Jesus (or anyone else from the comic books) has to be in the game, I think using him like Hershel from season 1 would be for the best.