What are the things that bothered you in Season 1?
What are the things that bothered you when you were playing The Walking Dead Season 1.
I hated that walker models were reused so many times.
When you tried being nice to Larry but he still hated you no matter what choices you made.
Every time Ben spoke (ffs shut up)
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I can answer some of your problems or whatever.
1.They can't do like 105124 (this number is a example) models especially for the walkers. I prefer the very low-poly walker that bited Lee, that makes me more angry (play on Low with everything turned off and you''ll understand me.)
2.Larry is an asshole to Lee because of his past and he's protecting Lilly
"Uhh, Ben, where did you get that?"
"I Found it back stuck on a doorhandle"
The things that bothered me were:
Katjaa killing herself. ("You don't just end it 'cause it's hard, you stick out and help the folks that you care about.")
Vernon's fate. Why didn't they just gave us a part where we play as him in 400 Days, instead of his group talking about him.
3.Chuck dying so fast, he would've been a great character. At least hold on 'til episode 5, i don't know, maybe he takes Ben's role and gets impaled or some shit.
4.Lee not cutting his arm off in time. Seriously, who cuts off his arm because of a bite maybe a hour or so later? I knew this'll happen.
5.Kenny's sideburns or whatever having different skin texture. If you watch him, you can see that they have different face texture.
Episodes three and four were tedious and the finale was too hyped up, in my opinion. ‘400 Days’ was irrelevant and I hope Nate does not return in the last season because I did not find him interesting nor a memorable character. In its entirety, Season One is not as ‘amazing’ as some individuals claim it to be.
To be fair the confrontation Ben has in ep5 with Kenny if you don't let him die at Crawford is my favorite moments in the episode.
As for things that i don't like :
Chuck dying off-screen.
No one else in the group asking what happened to Chuck is the protracted answer.
I guess the fact that Clementine never really learns of Jolene is something.
Doug's lack of an introduction and much focus to leave nearly any impression compared to Carley is another.
Oh and most of the women looking weird.
That's about it off the top of my head.
I have the same complaints. Especially how the women look wierd. I mean Lilly is downright scary with her eyes, Christa' face is just strange with her chin and eyes, Brenda, heck even Carley! Clementine was done well though, I like when her lips move in that puzzled direction, Idk the word. Heh, I sound wierd, why I am I writing this
Can I just say I really liked the sound effects for interacting with things in season 1?
As much as I find S1 to be the best in the series, there were moments here and there that did make me raise my eyebrow.
Yeah, Katjaa is one of those [major] characters that just exist and barely.
It's also worth noting that Kenny is supposed to be stubborn/determined.
Well, Kenny's a hypocrite, but forget that--how about him wanting to "take the place by force" when they've been promised a meal?
Rumors nothing, most of the same lines were recorded for her and are in the game's files.
Hell, she even still use one or two of them under certain conditions.
Again, Kenny is a hypocrite AND stubborn. That was just one of the most positive display of that.
Please stop bad mouthing Kenny when that shouldn’t be what this post is about!
He wasn’t a hypocrite. Ever think he may have changed his mind about the situation? Also he said “take the place over if we have to” he said, not surprising after the bandit attack that he thought of it
Truth be told, not much. An absolute masterpiece in storytelling from beginning to end. Still far and away my favorite game of all time.
Ah, but don'cha know? Katjaa is Kenny's wife!
Also, Rich was technically talking about him too, so it's not like there wasn't a prompting.
>Also he said “take the place over if we have to” he said, not surprising after the bandit attack that he thought of it
Still kinda failing to see how "Let's conquer these people's livelihood" is a rational thing to decide, much less a nonaggressive one.
I sided with Kenny on everything except killing Larry.
Then you get lines like "When have you ever sided with me?" And he left me to die TWICE! I saved and fed your Son, you horrible prick.
To be fair he liked me at the end though, and praised Lee in episode 2
Kenny surviving, and becoming 1 of 2 characters that ruined Season Two.
Because as he said to Lilly, “we can all make our own damn decisions, this isn’t your own personal dictatorship”, making our own decisions is the key line here.
And??! Im glad he does, he’s being honest and speaking his mind instead of sitting back and just nodding and agreeing to whatever idea is thrown on the table. If it bothers you that he gets mad for disagreeing with someone or because they don’t like his ideas, then get over it i say.
the whole “take this place over” was a GROUP suggestion and the “if we have to” line says it all about that he wasn’t suggesting it unless things got too bad which at that point i guess it had. And yeah why not? You have to think like a survivor in that world, not the good, sweet and kind thing to do as your mindset seems to be. A member of their group just got attacked, Kenny’s suggestion was to defend the place from them and that if the St John’s were going to be timid about it then they would have to take it over for the good of their home and actions as well as the group he was trying to protect.
Ugh i never intended for this to turn into an argument but i suppose its inevitable. Dude i am not saying you can’t say what you want but stick to the topic instead of bad mouthing Kenny when it has nothing to do with the original post
Technically he doesn’t “leave” you to die. At the farm he hesistates out of fear as we can plainly see by his face. At the drugstore he “thinks” about leaving but he doesn’t. Sure he doesn’t help but by the time he had thought about it, the scene had moved on.
But sure ok
Nope. Kenny is what made Season 2 better as far as i am concerned. I think the season would have been even worse if he hadn’t shown up because the writing for the season was terrible in general, i am pretty sure the writing team would not have developed the characters any better had he not shown up.
Unless you’re saying that Kenny being in season 2 ruined it simply because you don’t like him?
Well if you kill Larry, he does save you in the farm. So why doesn't he if you try to save Larry? He clearly has it in him to save you, but instead leaves you to be killed so he can save his own skin. To me, that's leaving you to die.
At the drugstore he left me trapped with a bunch of walkers. Again, if you kill Larry, he saves you in the same scenario.
Dress it up how you like, but he left me to die twice despite consistently saving his kid, and giving him (and Kenny himself) food. All because I wanted to try to save someone's life
Okay, you are obviously a Kenny fanboy, so no reason to argue here I guess. This whole "well he technically does not leave you to die" when he clearly does that twice and the looks Lee gives him afterwards support that. Kenny is a shitty man who thinks you must side with him 100% on everything or you are his enemy. I am glad I could shoot him in Season 2 and I am glad he died in even worse way when you stayed with him (since you clearly stayed with him). How did you feel when he died like a fucking loser in ANF? Did it break your fanboy heart?
Insert gonna need a less edge on that meme
Could not help myself.
I disagree. While we may never truly know if Season 2's writing would have been just as bad if it was just about Clementine and the Cabin Group, Kenny returning definitely made the writing in Season 2 worse because of how poorly it was handled in my eyes, and did actually made me lose whatever respect I had for him in Season 1.
Clementine and Kenny barely talked to each other in Season 1, and come Season 2, Kenny is suddenly the contender for Lee's replacement as her guardian. The lack of continuity between both seasons had also meant that Clementine never really learns just how terribly Kenny can treat Lee, and to an extent towards Clementine as well, since Kenny can initially refuse to go looking for a kidnapped child because of a grudge against her guardian.
His fake-death at the end of Season 1 is never explored any further than 'I got lucky', and his relationship with Sarita is both unconvincing and unoriginal. It only really served to give Kenny a repeat of his character arc he had in Season 1. Season 2 with Kenny is basically Season 1 with Kenny all over again, only this time he's more unhinged and stubborn than ever. This is not character development, this is Kenny refusing to learn from anything and making the same mistakes over and over.
I wouldn't have felt so opposed to Kenny's return in Season 2, if it wasn't for how his return seemed to have caused the Cabin Group to suddenly lose focus in their own story. Once Kenny was in the spotlight, suddenly the story treats him as the most important person in the room who can do no wrong, who can behave like a violent, insecure, and spoiled child who demands that everyone does things his way, and yet somehow he almost always comes out on top and never really suffers the consequences of his actions.
If I am to be frank, Kenny in Season 2 is the same as Chloe Price in Life is Strange. Overly glorified, overly angsty, the story goes out of their way to justify their behaviour to a grating degree, and they take up way too much spotlight than they deserve.
That was well-spoken, Rich, and why I believe going along with Jane is the correct decision because she could see right through Kenny. I always found Kenny unhinged from the get-go because he was always so quick to judge other characters’ flaws, but never reflect on his own issues. His and Clementine’s relationship in Season Two was so forced as you described and as much as ‘A New Frontier’ was disappointing, I was happy that Kenny had the chance of dying depending on your choices.
Honestly, the only thing that bugged me was Duck's voice actor. Duck's voice actor (who presumably was a kid) sounded very inexperienced and took away from the games immersion. He wasn't too annoying, but Telltale could have casted a better person, maybe an adult.
Almost like karma, don't you think?
Yes, in other words.
I never noticed that with the women except for Molly and it's kind of funny to bring up.
My point was that he does the same shit he antagonizes others for. I was also gonna use his reactions to Larry in the meat locker and Duck after the Motel raid as well, but felt the first comparison was more in line.
But okay.
See, now that's a rational explanation for the otherwise aggressive and honestly kinda out of nowhere in context statement on his part.
Yeah, well looking through this thread, I see I took a risk that I probably should've thought through a little more.
My bad, ya'll!
I never liked the gun training sequence with Clem and I wanted to see how Clem might of reacted to walker Lee if she did not shoot him.
I never liked how Carly only had one handicapped zombie grabbing her heels and could just stomp it's head or pistol whip it's head to break free. Yet she's saved much more often than Doug who appears more restrained from breaking free.
I never liked how they never revealed exactly how Mark was introduced while everyone else was shown on screen how they got there.
I feel like Ben should of had a courageous redeeming moment where he saves the group somehow or does something tremendously helpful towards the end instead of dying in a whimpy sad way.
I feel like it was out of character for Lilly to try to take it upon herself to shoot Ben point blank without the groups agreement or just any validation just so Doug can sacrifice his life for Ben whom didn't really seem like a best friend to him so why would you put yourself in the path of a bullet for someone known for like a month?
Christa is a bit overly critical of Lee for having just met. Also during the freight rail escape Omid was hurt so both should of been alright with me helping Omid and instead whichever you help first cusses you out for not helping the other first which I didn't like.
Molly was too bitchy when you first meet and pretty much throughout. She'd got along great with Jane.
I think it'd of been hilarious if we had to actually ironically confront Vernon in the act of taking the same boat he said was a bad idea, which is kind of a wasted opportunity I believe.
Never liked the Stranger being disappointed in you even if you never took his goods.
The fact Clementine can drag a man quadruple her weight is still mind boggling and stupid. Not to mention the herd not taking any notice of what transpired.
Could you drag someone at least triple your weight with no muscles on pavement without getting a hernia?
Eh, they're both selfish assholes with violent streaks.
I know, it was mostly a joke that happens to have some truth to it rather than a serious complaint.
Rich beat me to it.
I will say this though, I don't hate Kenny. I ended up siding with him in the last two episodes, as everyone else in the group made it quite clear that they were incapable of doing anything, and I just wanted them all dead after that fuckery with the teleporting walkers at the observation deck.
That being said, Kenny AND Jane should have never been in Season Two, as everyone else in the group, starting from episode 3 onwards basically became a background character.
Same, I just had more than my fill of him.
If you kill Kenny in Season Two, fine. Just as long as you do it after he delivers justice to Jane.
Ahaha considering I didn’t insult you in anyway this goes to show exactly the type of person you are. I actually pity you.
First of all, I stayed in Wellington so [Mod edit: don't insult users], secondly you’re actually no different than Kenny by you simply saying how much you loved seeing him die. [Mod edit: don't insult users...] I dread to think how you may be in real life if someone hurts you widdle feewings aww.
Nah it didn’t break my heart, he had a great run and the nature of the series is that people die, i expected it, what does break my heart though is how awful Telltales games have been in recent years and just the lazy way Telltale handled Kenny and Jane’s deaths sums it up. I’m glad he was around long enough to piss you guys off and ruin your enjoyment throughout Season 1 and 2 though lol. If only i could have seen how angry you got at some of the scenes haha.
Lol it cracks me up sometimes because people go on about how sensitive i am when Kenny is discussed negatively yet people like yourself are actually ten times worse it seems. Ah well, goes to show how different our views are. I’m just glad i didn’t get butthurt at times he says offensive things or whatever like the haters always do. Usually most of the time his reasons for his actions are justified anyway.
Thank you for calling me a Kenny fanboy by the way. Loud and proud my friend! Enjoy the rest of your week and try to have a more positive outlook on life rather than a negative one like you seem to have ?
Hahaha awww! Same old same old eh? Heard it all before. Disagree all you want it’s fine but of course i disagree with some of the things you have said too but no surprise there.
The cabin group had almost 2 full episodes to be developed in some way before Kenny showed up. I am pretty sure regardless if he hadn’t shown up, their development would not have improved because the writing team just wasn’t that good and we all know it.
I do wonder if you would have had the same attitude if Christa and Omid had stuck around but i bet you wouldn’t have minded them because its simply not Kenny lol
Because Lilly does instead.
People seem to forget that Lilly doesn’t save Lee in the farm or when Andy has Lee at the fence if Lee helped kill her dad which is understandable but everyone seems to think Kenny not saving Lee is worse yet the reason for Kenny not helping Lee is understandable when you think about it. If Lee tried to stupidly save Larry, he is putting everyone in serious danger which is why Kenny was as angry as he was because he and everyone could have died because of him.
People think Lilly’s reasons for not helping is ok but i personally think Kenny not helping is also understandable, just different.
And for goodness sake please don’t shoot me down for that. It’s my opinion.
This post is unnecessarily aggressive. Let's try to calm things down.