TWD The Final Season Ep 1 Waiting Thread - Releases Aug 14th, Switch EU Aug 28th

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  • edited August 2018

    Those were enough of a hook though, with the previous Season/installment ending in a manner that left room for speculation and some momentum leading into the next.

    Also, Adult are bad doesn't work as a descriptor in Season 2 or ANF when the overwhelming majority of the characters are still adults, a portion of whom are antagonistic.

    lupinb0y posted: »

    To be fair the same thing can be said for trailers from the previous season. Season 1: A zombie apocalypse happens. You gotta take care o

  • I am pretty sure if the trailer gave away even a bit of the story you would be whining about it giving away too much story that you are not satisfied with. Just calm down, the trailer is good, the story is okay so far, it`s interesting at least.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    Maybe I shouldnt say me, more like the player in general. What this trailer is telling players is within 1 episode we are introduced to a

  • Can I just take a minute to gush about the cinematography?

    That upwards camera angle of Marlon having a meltdown whilst the sky above him has that dramatic tint to it gave me S1 Ep2 vibes and I am in love with it.

  • YES. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was blown away by that shot. It looked so fucking good!

    Can I just take a minute to gush about the cinematography? That upwards camera angle of Marlon having a meltdown whilst the sky above him has that dramatic tint to it gave me S1 Ep2 vibes and I am in love with it.

  • Oh my god, fuck yeah, that shot was probably my favorite thing in the trailer.

    lupinb0y posted: »

    YES. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was blown away by that shot. It looked so fucking good!

  • Is that him though? I'm know we're being lowkey hinted that's the case, but it almost sounded like a different boy.

    lupinb0y posted: »

    I assume he meant when Marlon yells, "I'm trying to protect you!"

  • Oh yeah, I loved that one. Awesome voice acting.

    lupinb0y posted: »

    I assume he meant when Marlon yells, "I'm trying to protect you!"

  • It was him. I can tell his voice actor from a mile away lmao

    DabigRG posted: »

    Is that him though? I'm know we're being lowkey hinted that's the case, but it almost sounded like a different boy.

  • edited August 2018

    I think it sounds a bit different because he's so emotional compared to his more calm tone of voice earlier in the trailer.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Is that him though? I'm know we're being lowkey hinted that's the case, but it almost sounded like a different boy.

  • I'm convinced that Marlon's either a huge character this season, or he dies in the first episode. Really hoping for the former.

  • The trailer is well done, there is nothing wrong with it. Considering I sadly got semi spoiled and know something that will happen now that is major, I can pretty confidently say I feel like like them cramming everything in one episode is not going to feel natural for the player to become invested in everything it wants you to care about.

    For what I mean about lack of story details is that we know adults are going to be the main conflict. But these trailers dont mention them at all, just a 0.5 second glance at one. It would be nice if we just got a chance to see the other side thats going to be an issue because it makes trailers misleading. They dont need to even explain why they are an issue in the trailer, just a simple line from someone mentioning theres an adult group out there thats an issue for them adds more and can help viewers understand a bit more about what this story is leading to. Because right now this trailer is just "Clem finds new place and bad shit happens again," nothing to make a viewer go "Now this story needed to be made."

    0v3rp0w3r posted: »

    I am pretty sure if the trailer gave away even a bit of the story you would be whining about it giving away too much story that you are not satisfied with. Just calm down, the trailer is good, the story is okay so far, it`s interesting at least.

  • Yeah, probably so.

    lupinb0y posted: »

    I think it sounds a bit different because he's so emotional compared to his more calm tone of voice earlier in the trailer.

  • I will say...when you are playing the Demo and Clem shuts the car off...I loved the sound of the big block engine cooling down...my cousin owned a Gran Torino Sport and it sounded just like that when he would come visit.

  • I was kinda hoping for a decent middleground, depending on how he comes across.

    AgentZ46 posted: »

    I'm convinced that Marlon's either a huge character this season, or he dies in the first episode. Really hoping for the former.

  • What do you mean, like him dying towards the middle?

    DabigRG posted: »

    I was kinda hoping for a decent middleground, depending on how he comes across.

  • Something like that.

    EbiManami posted: »

    What do you mean, like him dying towards the middle?

  • I got hit in the feels with that trailer

  • I don't mean take the whole spotlight giving the other characters no time to develop.

    DabigRG posted: »

    I was kinda hoping for a decent middleground, depending on how he comes across.

  • From the trailer it looks like they may actually show Clem shoot Lee? (Assuming you chose this)

  • You feel that way because you were already spoiled. I bet if you got that information playing the episode, you would be absolutely okay with that.
    Regarding the villains - is not it better to find out yourself? I mean Telltale were heavily criticized about their trailers spoiling the story too much (one of the Guardians trailer spoiled the final choice of the episode WTF). They are actually learning and taking that criticism to heart. So there is no problem in my opinion that they did not show us the other side of the conflict, THAT would be showing too much.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    The trailer is well done, there is nothing wrong with it. Considering I sadly got semi spoiled and know something that will happen now that

  • Only a butthole would have left Lee to turn.

    Stewart25 posted: »

    From the trailer it looks like they may actually show Clem shoot Lee? (Assuming you chose this)

  • Well, obviously not.
    I'd have a legit fuckin problem if he did, especially with how he was starting to come across before this.

    AgentZ46 posted: »

    I don't mean take the whole spotlight giving the other characters no time to develop.

  • I really adore the music in this trailer. It has this hauntingly beautiful melody.

  • Its hard to explain how the spoiler I did see isnt change my view on this trailer or knowledge on what the plot of this game will be, but still being a major spoiler, without saying it.

    Again, they dont have to go into details at all about the conflict, but completely ignoring it? No mention at all of this outside group? They dont need to give any explanation on why or how or anything, but choosing to just ignore it is strange. It needed something to show this game has some kind of conflict because like I said, it makes the story seem aimless, and seeing nothing like that in the trailer doesnt make a viewer feel too confident because it makes it look like Telltale is hiding the main plot because they know it will come off silly.

    Again, I really hope my worries are all crushed when it releases, I would love to have my expectations blown away, but considering since April we still barely know anything about what actually is suppose to go down in this game isnt the best sign.

    0v3rp0w3r posted: »

    You feel that way because you were already spoiled. I bet if you got that information playing the episode, you would be absolutely okay with

  • Here is how i feel about it:

    The Walking Dead was never really about plot, but about the story. The difference between plot and story is that plot are the events and things that happen, while story is why and how these things happen. TWD has always been at its best when it relied more on the whys and hows of certain events instead of the actual events.

    Lets take the tv show as an example. I really dislike the All-Out War story-arc, because it's all plot, no story. Things happen, but we don't really know why. Sure, it's because of Negans killing of certain characters, but that event itself is just plot. We don't know WHY Negan acts the way he does. We don't care for him because of his character. We care for him because he did things.

    A New Frontier had a similar problem. There's just too much plot and to little actual story and the story that actually was there was pretty poor. Even the character moments seemed completely out of place and undercooked (i'm looking at you, Gabe/Kate ending!)

    Now to The Final Season. All we've seen so far has been the new characters and a theme: To find a home for Clementine and AJ, which is also all the plot you need at the beginning and since they put heavy emphesis on the new characters, that can potentially provide said home, both the story and the plot work much better in conjunction to one another. It already seems more cohesive, than last season.

    It sets up its characters first and teases a potentially bigger plot later, unlike, for example, the launch trailer for ANF, which literally screamed "this thing happens, then this and this and now THIS!"

    Obviously, we don't know how the season will progress, but i'm very confident that it will be more character driven than ANF.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    Not sure about this still. Trailer didnt really give any story details...still. Im just really worried the plot of this game will feel ai

  • I left him...

    Only a butthole would have left Lee to turn.

  • edited August 2018

    The difference between plot and story is that plot are the events and things that happen, while story is why and how these things happen.

    True.

    We care for him because he did things.

    This is something I did feel was kinda given too much emphasis by people and ironically what ANF seemed to be trying to cater more to.

    Even the character moments seemed completely out of place and undercooked (i'm looking at you, Gabe/Kate ending!)

    You mean the ones where they lose their life?

    I'm very confident that it will be more character driven than ANF.

    The sad thing about that is that I felt that most of the major characters did have at least a baseline for this, but they only occasionally got focus taking proper advantage of it at best. Especially when the direction changed.

    GSSalvador posted: »

    Here is how i feel about it: The Walking Dead was never really about plot, but about the story. The difference between plot and story is

  • You took me saying plot a bit too literal, when I say plot I mean story, and the events the all happen to build the story ect.

    What Im saying is, the story is going to feel rushed seeing how it seems all in one episode we are introduced to all these things, and in the same episode are expected that we already care about it all and want to protect it when the conflict happens. Im afraid it will be similar to ANF where nothing gets any time to develope be it characters, plot points, or locations, its just move move move. As I said earlier, they cant have episode 1 introduce the conflict fully and then have the other 3 episodes be them all hanging out in the school holding their ground. Its going to lead to a ton of undercooked rushing, specifically the boarding school which is Clems "new home" and what Telltale keeps talking about being the main theme.

    GSSalvador posted: »

    Here is how i feel about it: The Walking Dead was never really about plot, but about the story. The difference between plot and story is

  • Let the episode play out first. There are trailers that tell too much, trailers that tell a fair amount and other trailers that are purposefully ambiguous, and this is obviously that one. It also appears to be an episode primarily about the kids' survival and life in the school an the focus is heavy on Marlon and his responsibilities.

    What I infer from this trailer is that Marlon made a deal with one or all of the adults in question and is keeping it from the kids, hence why he seems to come unglued by the end of the trailer. As to why? We obviously don't know yet. Is that a bad thing? It doesn't have to be. Like you, I've sadly been spoiled recently. But let's have the episode play out first.

    Going into a Telltale game saying you're "expected" to care about these characters doesn't help you in the slightest way feel any better about them. I could say in the same way that you were "expected" to care for Clem when the Launch trailer for Ep 1 of Season 1 dropped. You and I don't know what these characters bring to the table in terms of likeability as yet. Go into this episode clear and open-minded. Not with the mindset that Telltale "expects" you to care about them. Go in like that, you'll most likely not feel a damn thing for the cast whatsoever.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    Its hard to explain how the spoiler I did see isnt change my view on this trailer or knowledge on what the plot of this game will be, but st

  • It seems to me they WILL spend the entire season there, I feel like this is Clementine`s last stop, a place she is going to call home (as the theme of the season suggests). Now YOU might think that is boring, but in reality it opens up a lot of potential which was not touched by the game series at all (since we are always running somewhere). This season is going to be great, so you just have to wait and see I guess.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    You took me saying plot a bit too literal, when I say plot I mean story, and the events the all happen to build the story ect. What Im sa

  • Every season has rewrites...look at the next time on TWD compared to the actual episode it always changes, sometimes by quite a lot

    0v3rp0w3r posted: »

    Hope there won`t be rewrites, did not turn out well for ANF.

  • Couldn't have described it better. I'm definitely gonna need the name to that track.

    I really adore the music in this trailer. It has this hauntingly beautiful melody.

  • edited August 2018

    About the expecting to care part.

    What I mean by this is, considering we know outside conflict goes down in this episode while we are still learning about these people, but the told we have to side with them, it makes it so they will lose development. The story just making us care through an outside force never works well. Sad part is I feel like they will do an okay job at this until the outside conflict thing happens, thats when itll become more of a Us vs them type of deal and kinda take away from their development to go on any further.

    Walking Dead S1 worked so well because episode 1 the conflict is internal. Its between the people you are with and siding with different people in your group ect. Theres no outside force in charge. The first ep being all internal also lets you get to know everyone a lot better. Sadly an issue with Walking Dead recently is it focuses way more on action and some bland evil group with some gimmick, and Im worried it'll just be another Walking Dead story where its about just fighting some opposing group because you have to.

    Sarunas21 posted: »

    Let the episode play out first. There are trailers that tell too much, trailers that tell a fair amount and other trailers that are purposef

  • That was a damn good trailer. I wasn't gonna watch it at first out of fear of spoilers, but they cut it perfectly to where I still don't know much about the story beats. Very excited for Tuesday just wish people weren't being assholes and ruining it for everyone. Why do fandoms have to be such cancer?

  • 100% agree. That kind of attitude ("Why should I care about them, Telltale expects me to care about them but I don`t wanna, I am going too break the game!") is something that I do not like about many Telltale haters out there (who interestingly enough continue to play these games for whatever reason). Why bother playing with that mindset? You clearly will not get any satisfaction from the game, so better skip it.

    Sarunas21 posted: »

    Let the episode play out first. There are trailers that tell too much, trailers that tell a fair amount and other trailers that are purposef

  • Im pretty sure if the whole game is the kids going "ay fuck u dude lmao" and then the adults going "no u" for 3 episodes without leading to a fight or conflict of any kind other than "ooooo dont make me DO IT!!" will be an incredibly boring game.

    0v3rp0w3r posted: »

    It seems to me they WILL spend the entire season there, I feel like this is Clementine`s last stop, a place she is going to call home (as th

  • Why did this trailer felt like Clem is gonna die? I mean this trailer felt like that and idk why I feel like that while watching the trailer. Even on the Telltale YouTube channel? Where Telltale literally said "The Beginning Of The End". Like WTF?

    Maybe this is just me saying his but I wouldn't be surprised if we get a option of either doing what we did with Lee. Where Clem or us decide how Lee died. Like leave him along or just shoot him.

  • Wow, you just summed up my expectations for the game much more succinctly then I have ever been able to.

    Poogers555 posted: »

    Im pretty sure if the whole game is the kids going "ay fuck u dude lmao" and then the adults going "no u" for 3 episodes without leading to a fight or conflict of any kind other than "ooooo dont make me DO IT!!" will be an incredibly boring game.

  • You seriously believe it`s going to be like that?

    Poogers555 posted: »

    Im pretty sure if the whole game is the kids going "ay fuck u dude lmao" and then the adults going "no u" for 3 episodes without leading to a fight or conflict of any kind other than "ooooo dont make me DO IT!!" will be an incredibly boring game.

  • Just summed up what you were saying my dude.

    0v3rp0w3r posted: »

    You seriously believe it`s going to be like that?

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