What proof is there Clementine WON'T die?
Or that there'll be a happily ever after ending?
So far what people have written seems to be plain old denial.
Or an appeal to reverse psychology. ("There's too much foreshadowing and repeating S1 would just BAD writing! Therefore that equals she'll live")
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There are mutiple endings. So she can both live and die.
You can't know that.
The fact that she is capable, and also has a curse of being the last standing in groups
There's no proof of anything, but to me, it's obvious that Clementine won't die and that she and AJ will live happily ever after at the boardingschool. Why? Because Telltale has never ever hinted something that turned out to be true, if a characters returns, Telltale always try to keep it as secret as possible, not posting hints on Twitter. Telltale love to scare us, they love to build tension, and if Clementine was really gonne die, they wouldn't have made it so obvious. Also, if you read the season description, it's all about "Finding a home" and "Give Clementine a satisfying ending" etc.
Worst case scenario, there will be multiple endings where Clementine CAN die, but I promise you, she will either be alive or determinant, not dead.
There is evidence
What evidence? You mean achievements for episode 4?
The achievements of episode 4 pretty much hints at mutiple endings and also the fact that Telltale said: " Determine how Clementine's story ends.
I have a feeling I might be turning AJ into a murderous psycho and he will end up killing Clementine or some dumb shit
(Though I will readily admit that if I get a choice to abandon AJ to have Clementine live I will)
Oh she's dead, anyone who says otherwise is deluding themselves. There may be some variations in how she dies but the end result will be the same for everyone.
If it makes you feel any type of way, the fact that Clementeen is not really a concern by the narrative and is clearly just there to be the protagonist can just easily appeal to one ending or another.
Spoilers?
Wow the mother figure that lives to protect...the figure that we see the world through...not really a concern by the narrative...even though she is the character that chooses to bend her world to survive....a character who has faced so much loss....one who has guilt over events that she could not control...now she is big enough to try and control those events...and saving AJ and the school looks to be that. I would submit that you are probably wrong when it somes to understanding basically anything in this game. Oh and Sarah deserved to die.
Okay, let me put it like this: Beyond being AJ's guardian, what key scenes in this first episode are specifically themed/driven by the mascot herself and her personal concerns as a character?
I would submit...her need for food and for a place to call home...in as much as AJ needs those things the title of the episode is about Clem...all she has done is run from place to place...it has taken a toll on her as well as AJ. The card game as she was leaving, you could see the years of hardship were close to breaking her spirit. Also cute meme.
Is that really stressed from her individual perspective, though?
See, this is somewhat close to a proper example of what I'm asking for. So, gettin there.
Why thank you!
I was gonna change my mind about using one, but that made me laugh enough to change my mind.
Isn't it obvious? It's her hat, it's clearly a magical item that has kept and will continue to keep her from dying. As long as Clem wears it, it will continue to drain away the life force of those around her in order to lengthen her own. Why else would she almost always be the sole survivor of the groups she's been in? Fate? Luck? Because the plot demanded it? Pfft, of course not, the hat drained the others dry of their life force. It's especially deadly to those who touch it. And only Clementine may wear it, anyone else that might be worthy can only wear it temporarily (if they go past the undetermined time limit it will kill them) and those unworthy of it are immediately killed if they try to wear it.
Too many endings.
Also watch her facial expressions when she is listening to banter...she rolls her eyes or how she takes praise and flattery. I will say this...they do leave a bit open because unlike say a book...she is your character so they leave it up for your interpretation at times. So you need to watch her face...her body language...when Violet came to get the art supplies and they both sat and talked to each other...the look on Clem's face cried out how much she enjoyed talking to someone her own age and how she followed Violet out of the room with her gaze....she did not want that contact to end. Clem is hungry....not just for affection as the horn dogs on the forum love to say...but for genuine conversation from people her own age.
As much as she is a mother figure, Clem is still a child in many ways as well as a hard boiled adult...she needs people and I have to commend the art and animation department for delivering.
Also Sarah deserved better.
Her hat is going to die not her what do you mean brother?
Well, there’s a few:
Too much foreshadowing
They said in an AMA that the ending would be fresh and die hard fans of Clem will enjoy it.
In another AMA they said there’s no bad ending. It’s your ending.
In my opinion I don't think Clementine will die. I don't have any proof as to why she won't die but the reasons behind my view is this:
Clementine is the company mascot for Telltale Games, just like Mario is for Nintendo and Sonic to SEGA. The Company Mascot is pretty much the reason behind said Company's success and status in the Industry. For Telltale to go and kill their Company Mascot who they pretty much owe their success to (No offense Telltale Staff) would be disrespectful to the franchise and disrespectful to Clementine herself (Or so I think). The Walking Dead Season One was the beginning of a new Era for Telltale, it opened the door to many more games which received critical acclaim using the same formula as The Walking Dead Season One (The Wolf Among Us, Tales From The Borderlands and The Walking Dead Season Two are prime examples) And with The Final Season drawing the conclusion of the story we first encountered and immediately fell in love with back in 2012 as well as being the End of an Era for Telltale Games, it would make perfect sense for Telltale to say goodbye to their beloved franchise which propelled them to the top of Interactive Storytelling on good terms.
Clementine's Story is different than any other story in the Zombie Genre/ Walking Dead Franchise. Her Story and her character resembles hope for a bright future in a dark world. Despite the horrors and pain and darkness that are a part of the world of The Walking Dead Clementine is the light of hope and the future of The Walking Dead universe. Adults knew of a world before the Walkers and despite Clementine also living before the Apocalypse she has spent the majority of her life surviving in this new world. To me it would be good to end the Series in a way that sets up the new generation preparing for life in this world. Clementine could lead that or at the very least be a prime example of how children will cope in the future of The Walking Dead.
Too much is at stake in The Final Season. Clementine has encountered countless people on her journey. Many of which fought to protect her and keep her safe. They saw her as the future of Humanity, Someone who is capable of leading people out of the apocalypse, Someone who could potentially bring things back to normal. To kill a character who experienced such tremendous loss and pain by seeing those who cared about her die all around her would leave those sacrifices in vain. Clementine deserves a happy ending and despite The Walking Dead being full of pain and heartache it also has heartwarming and happy moments too. To have a "Happy" Ending would not be a terrible thing nor a poor representation of The Walking Dead brand or Universe
Sorry for rambling. I didn't really list any proof or evidence as to why Clementine won't die. I just listed my reasons as to why I think Clementine will survive The Walking Dead: The Final Season. I am sorry if my explanations are all over the place and silly
Wow.. I love what you just written.
Thank you so much I truly appreciate the kind words
I apologise if my wording or reasoning is all over the place, I am not very good at putting my thoughts into words
Well it's pretty much obvious she will die. The teaser with "What do you do If I get bit?", the fact that they started the idea about the Final Season not from the beginning, but from the ending. Also I hardly doubt that they wanted whole series to led up to the point in which Clementine lives happily ever after. It's The Walking Dead after all. They want to finish the series. They most likely will finish it that way.
People you shouldn't really believe in what TT guys are saying. They're basically saying nothing. All the bullshit with "your choices" matter and other shit.
Nah you did it great! You totally changed my look at the whole thing! And it was fun to read!
I wouldn't be so sure. This is the first time for Telltale to end a series on their own terms. They know it's the finale and we know it's the finale. They could obviously repeat season one's ending, sure, but i'm 100% sure that the writers are much smarter than that.
The overarching theme of this final season is to finally find a real home and that's what this season has been building up to even in its first episode. I'm pretty sure we WILL find a new home in Ericsons, but the "how's?" and "why's?" will vary depending on our choices. They said they want to make the ending satisfying for everyone and they said they don't want a situation, where someone got the "worst" ending and felt both unsatisfied and undeserving.
The ending will most definetly be bittersweet in the way how we achieve it. It won't be a complete happy ending, nor will it be a complete downer. There are dozent ways to end a character-arc without killing said character. They just need to frame the ending in a way, that makes the player think "hey, maybe this actually IS a safe place."
They could do it by Clementine reaching out to Richmond to start building a chain of communities, who would work together and help each other to survive. It would definetly be a more optimistic ending, but that would make it unique in its own right. After four seasons and nearly a decade of Clementine suffering through the hands of this broken world, maybe a more optimistic ending is not only what she needs, but what we - as fans of the franchise - might need, too.
The general consciousness of a TWD fan says: "There can't be nice things in the world of The Walking Dead for too long."
But what if they're wrong?
That's a good way to look at it, if your trying to convince yourself that Clem will live. The season arc may be about finding a home, but the series has always been about how far will you go to protect what you love, and when we get to the end that's what it will still be about and in that kind of story the protagonist almost always dies at the end.
And there is the simple fact that this is Tellgames, these people killed Lee and set it up for Clem to have to pull the trigger. These people are sadists, and they're making misery porn here, Clementine is dead.
TFS would be the perfect opportnunity to break that circle.
Much appreciated
Maybe I should apply for a job at Telltale!! 
just kidding. Thank you for the kind words I am glad you enjoyed it!
Can't we find some nice middle ground? Like her arms and legs get cut off, or something? So half of her is still alive at the end and half of her isn't.
Everybody wins.
Maybe Clem will have to make a choice either to live or sacrifice herself for AJ.
Also known as a cop out. You can't change the destination mid-journey, Clem dying is where we were always heading.
This guy's thinking smart.
Everyone dies. That doesn't mean that's where the story ends for us.
Here's my opinion on the whole Clem dying thing. So this might be a long one.
I think Clem is going to die but there are like multiple endings for her to die. TellTale in the past has shown that each season there's always one end goal.
Season 1- In the end Lee still dies
Season 2- In the end, Clem ends up alone
Season 3- In the end, Clem leaves Richmond
Its so everyone can have a fair gameplay without someone getting one thing better than the other (I would like to think of it in that way)
I feel like Clementine will die in the end and to be honest, I wouldn't mind that. I mean of course i would be sad but I wouldn't be mad. Be honest with yourselves, Would you honestly play another Walking Dead Season? I'm pretty sure you'll get bored of it. If Clem doesn't die then more and more people would demand more games milking the franchise and ending up like the TV show. Also you really think they're going to find a permanent home. Its the Walking Dead. Walkers will overrun them and then its out on the road again.
And also I think Telltale is getting tired of making season after season for the Franchise. It takes a lot of time to create an episode. People keep pushing and pushing for more. I think they got sick and tired of it and just want to end it off so they can work on other projects.
I feel like killing off Clem would give closure for everyone and it would be a full circle for Clem's journey. Also every season of the Walking Dead ends the same way
So anyway, you be wondering "Clem isnt going to die, you have no proof"
One Proof is Violet's question during the card game. "Out of all of us, who do you think is going to die first?". That's some clear foreshadowing and Marlon died. So they're going to get picked off one by one.
Second Proof. Tenn's Drawing. When he drew Heaven and his sisters. AJ lets Tenn draw him in that place and says he would like to visit that place one day. Some more foreshadowing that he could possibly die as well. You can even let Tenn draw Clem in the picture.
Proof 3: The Last Episode Title. "Take Us Back". I dont know about you but this is giving me some call backs to the First Seasons ending song after Lee Dies. Plus the title picture, shows a river and Clem's hat.
Proof 4: Louis song. Listen to the lyrics of Louis song. Its very morbid and pretty much depressing in a way. Some more foreshadowing if you read the lyrics.
Again I think Clem is going to die but I wouldn't be too mad. It would be closure for me that the series ends om a good note. Now if she dies in a stupid way, then I'll have problems.
I thought so too but this interview by Brodie Anderson about the writing process for TFS is very interesting.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-08-23-telltale-games-we-have-let-players-down-in-the-past
_"We started with the ending and we decided it would take four episodes to get to that," Andersen teased. "There's going to be a variety of avenues throughout the season... [but we] won't ever make the player feel like they got the bad ending to the story, it's your ending."
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They started with the ending? What an interesting process. (As opposed to S2 and S3 which were clearly written as they went along.)
Telltale must have no doubts about making sure this is the absolute end for Clementine's story.
Notice, he doesn't specify "we started with multiple endings", just "the" ending. That "they're's going to be a variety of avenues throughout the season" but apparently not for the ending.
It also explains very well why EP1 felt so compactly well-written and focused and why the entire release schedule has been publicized and the four episodes are strategically 6 weeks apart; They've already written the ending.
bad is subjective. Lee's death wasn't a bad ending.
This is the official tagline for Season 4 and I'm surprised more people haven't basically read into it.
"A secluded school might finally be Clementine’s chance for a home, but protecting it will mean sacrifice."
I don't know what anyone infers from that but from my eyes that translates to "someone in some facet is going to have die in order to acquire any hope of happiness for their future".
Almost a spoiler in itself, it reads out sacrifice as the deciding factor in finding a permanent home at the school.
Yeah it's clear TT are tired of TWD at this point. They want to move on to the other licenses and in general want to move on as a company. In a way this season is a goodbye letter to a TT era.
They're very adamant about this being the FINAL season.
I don't believe they care that Clem is their so-called "mascot" character, they've had no qualms announcing that after this season Clementine will never appear or exist again. She's effectively dead if she does survive the finale.
I can't lie I think it's about time for Clem to die. She's more than pushed her luck for so long for her age. It's the most real story ending they can do. Her surviving yet again is what's most predictable since that has already happened three times. And here would be a fourth. Why couldn't Lee get multiple endings where he lives and dies if that's the case? I would of liked seeing Lee in some plauthroughs atleast for an episode or two season two. Folks are just attached to Clem and any irrational survival fear she does is perfectly normal for her age and can live up to age 60 in that world apparently. I'm not indenial and I can accept a Clementine death ? but not really another happy picnic on the beach ? type of surviving ending which only creates more open ended story breaches for her to come back. And if so may as well do another fifth season with her.